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Title: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 07, 2007, 05:48:08 PM
You're a smart man my dude. I knew CP3 was gonna be good but this guy is doing it big this season. Not only would I take him over Nash, but he's starting to grow a big margin between himself a Derron Williams.

19.2 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 9.9 apg (3rd in the league), 2.9 spg (1st in the league), 46.9 fg%, 92.3 ft%, and most importantly: his team is 12-7 in arguably the toughest division.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 07, 2007, 07:53:38 PM
LOL...a "big margin between him and Deron Williams"? Right now, Williams > Paul > Nash. When will you learn that stats don't mean shit?
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Lunatic on December 07, 2007, 08:22:13 PM
i think y'all hate on nash a lil 2 much
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 07, 2007, 08:26:54 PM
Nash is not bad, he's just not MVP material.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on December 07, 2007, 08:28:42 PM
stats don't mean shit
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 07, 2007, 08:30:36 PM
Nash is not bad, he's just not MVP material.

dude won it back to back, and had a better season last year than the previous two and was cheated out of MVP by that big fuckin fag ass german. Nash is the best pg in the league.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Lunatic on December 07, 2007, 08:34:33 PM
Nash is not bad, he's just not MVP material.

dude won it back to back, and had a better season last year than the previous two and was cheated out of MVP by that big fuckin fag ass german. Nash is the best pg in the league.
i gotta agree that he should of won mvp last yr...he had a better yr than his 2 mvp seasons, hands down he deserved it.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 07, 2007, 09:03:37 PM
When will you learn that stats don't mean shit?

umm...

most importantly: his team is 13-7 in arguably the toughest division.

And funny how I never hear you say "stats don't mean shit" when I'm posting Kobe's numbers or Wade's FTA.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 07, 2007, 09:08:16 PM
^^^true, if your comparing players, wouldnt u most likely look at the stats? lol...
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Antonio_ on December 08, 2007, 12:41:29 AM
You're a smart man my dude. I knew CP3 was gonna be good but this guy is doing it big this season. Not only would I take him over Nash, but he's starting to grow a big margin between himself a Derron Williams.

19.2 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 9.9 apg (3rd in the league), 2.9 spg (1st in the league), 46.9 fg%, 92.3 ft%, and most importantly: his team is 12-7 in arguably the toughest division.

I told ya. This guy is just 22 years old (1 year younger than Lebron James and Deron Williams), and he's been amazing so far. I've seen him 3-4 times this seasons, and he's taking the thoughest shots in the 4th period too, making them. Plus ask Peja how he's sharing the ball. Nash is a good player, but like i said last year, if you put Paul in Phoenix system, he'll be a monster too, just like Nash. Nash is a good playmaker, don't get me wrong. But he's not God. And he's 33 years old. The amazing thing about Phoenix is that there are always 4 players on the floor ready to receive a pass. So if you can make them assists, you are in Heaven, and the other players too. D'Antoni has coached a lot of years in Italy, i know him (even personally) very well. His teams have always been like that, and he has always made his PG looks like God. Once again: i'm not saying Nash is bad. I'm saying the system he's playing in helps his stats.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: wcsoldier on December 08, 2007, 12:43:18 AM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Antonio_ on December 08, 2007, 12:45:56 AM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash

No doubt. Even Billups 2 years ago > Steve Nash, imho.

I dunno why people keep saying we're haters, if we say so.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: wcsoldier on December 08, 2007, 01:10:22 AM
^^^^ Nash seems to have a pass for everything .. I remember arguing on a French forum why Nash was overrated .. 1st I exposed his lack of Defense , I got the following answer many times : who cares about Nash D , it's not his role , Suns don't D anyways  :grumpy:
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Antonio_ on December 08, 2007, 03:54:22 AM
lol
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: 7even on December 08, 2007, 04:14:41 AM

dude won it back to back, and had a better season last year than the previous two and was cheated out of MVP by that big fuckin fag ass german.

Are you asking for trouble?
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Antonio_ on December 08, 2007, 04:23:25 AM
lol
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 08, 2007, 12:34:20 PM
Nash is not bad, he's just not MVP material.

dude won it back to back, and had a better season last year than the previous two and was cheated out of MVP by that big fuckin fag ass german. Nash is the best pg in the league.
i gotta agree that he should of won mvp last yr...he had a better yr than his 2 mvp seasons, hands down he deserved it.


I guess people started to realize that Phoenix's system is a fluke...Grant Hill is putting up all-star numbers again. LMAO.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 08, 2007, 12:36:51 PM
When will you learn that stats don't mean shit?

umm...

most importantly: his team is 13-7 in arguably the toughest division.

And funny how I never hear you say "stats don't mean shit" when I'm posting Kobe's numbers or Wade's FTA.


Huh? Kobe's numbers? Kobe is putting up worse numbers than James this year...does that mean he's still not clearly the best player in the league? Come on, now. At least make sense...And where does Wade's FTA come into this discussion? LMAO! Wade's free throw attempts are a result of the NBA's reffing system, nothing else. There's no connection. In fact, Wade probably wants to kill Tim Donaghy right about now.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 08, 2007, 12:37:39 PM
^^^true, if your comparing players, wouldnt u most likely look at the stats? lol...


You can compare stats, but stats don't determine the better player...PeACe
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 08, 2007, 01:27:11 PM

dude won it back to back, and had a better season last year than the previous two and was cheated out of MVP by that big fuckin fag ass german.

Are you asking for trouble?

i'm bringin trouble kiddd 8) lmaoo
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 08, 2007, 01:32:18 PM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash

thats a joke and a half! nash, paul, and williams is close, i wont lie. BUT nash such a better shooter, passer, just much better developed offensive player. which is what you want out of your point gaurd. about that D thing you said, your pg isnt pose to play that bowen/artest defense. there pose to bring the ball and control the offensive side of the game, and nash does that better than anyone else in the leauge.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 08, 2007, 02:03:27 PM
Nash is not bad, he's just not MVP material.

dude won it back to back, and had a better season last year than the previous two and was cheated out of MVP by that big fuckin fag ass german. Nash is the best pg in the league.
i gotta agree that he should of won mvp last yr...he had a better yr than his 2 mvp seasons, hands down he deserved it.


I guess people started to realize that Phoenix's system is a fluke...Grant Hill is putting up all-star numbers again. LMAO.

Definitely a factor of D'Antoni and the fact that his ankles are in tact.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 08, 2007, 02:28:04 PM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash

thats a joke and a half! nash, paul, and williams is close, i wont lie. BUT nash such a better shooter, passer, just much better developed offensive player. which is what you want out of your point gaurd. about that D thing you said, your pg isnt pose to play that bowen/artest defense. there pose to bring the ball and control the offensive side of the game, and nash does that better than anyone else in the leauge.


Far from a joke...Parker always shits on Nash when the Suns play the Spurs.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Vegasmac25 on December 08, 2007, 02:32:46 PM
i say its Williams-Nash-Parker-Paul.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 08, 2007, 02:53:24 PM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash

thats a joke and a half! nash, paul, and williams is close, i wont lie. BUT nash such a better shooter, passer, just much better developed offensive player. which is what you want out of your point gaurd. about that D thing you said, your pg isnt pose to play that bowen/artest defense. there pose to bring the ball and control the offensive side of the game, and nash does that better than anyone else in the leauge.


Far from a joke...Parker always shits on Nash when the Suns play the Spurs.

and Baron shitted on Dirk last year in the playoffs, you gunna tell me that baron is better than dirk?
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 08, 2007, 03:06:44 PM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash

thats a joke and a half! nash, paul, and williams is close, i wont lie. BUT nash such a better shooter, passer, just much better developed offensive player. which is what you want out of your point gaurd. about that D thing you said, your pg isnt pose to play that bowen/artest defense. there pose to bring the ball and control the offensive side of the game, and nash does that better than anyone else in the leauge.


Far from a joke...Parker always shits on Nash when the Suns play the Spurs.

and Baron shitted on Dirk last year in the playoffs, you gunna tell me that baron is better than dirk?


Horrible analogy...Baron and Dirk play 2 different positions. He's better than Jason Terry, though...PeACe
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 08, 2007, 03:33:27 PM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash

thats a joke and a half! nash, paul, and williams is close, i wont lie. BUT nash such a better shooter, passer, just much better developed offensive player. which is what you want out of your point gaurd. about that D thing you said, your pg isnt pose to play that bowen/artest defense. there pose to bring the ball and control the offensive side of the game, and nash does that better than anyone else in the leauge.


Far from a joke...Parker always shits on Nash when the Suns play the Spurs.

Thats cuz Nash doesn't play defense. He always sucks against PGs that can score a lot (which is why he ran all over Smush Parker then Jordan Farmar). Parker isn't even in the discussion he's not a real PG.

Kidd > Paul > Nash > Williams.
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Post by: Sparegeez on December 08, 2007, 03:35:56 PM
Why aren't you guys bringing up Baron Davis in the conversation? He's arguably the best at his position right now.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 08, 2007, 03:41:32 PM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash

thats a joke and a half! nash, paul, and williams is close, i wont lie. BUT nash such a better shooter, passer, just much better developed offensive player. which is what you want out of your point gaurd. about that D thing you said, your pg isnt pose to play that bowen/artest defense. there pose to bring the ball and control the offensive side of the game, and nash does that better than anyone else in the leauge.


Far from a joke...Parker always shits on Nash when the Suns play the Spurs.

and Baron shitted on Dirk last year in the playoffs, you gunna tell me that baron is better than dirk?


Horrible analogy...Baron and Dirk play 2 different positions. He's better than Jason Terry, though...PeACe

ur not seein the analogy...dirk obv. just isnt good against the warriors, as nash is not against the spurs. ur also forgetting that the spurs are and ELITE defensive team. there elite cuz they can stop a teams top player (like what they did to lebron). so parker doesnt shit on nash, the spurs D shits on nash, and since the suns arent a great defensive team, parker puts up better numbers than usual.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 08, 2007, 03:43:38 PM
Why aren't you guys bringing up Baron Davis in the conversation? He's arguably the best at his position right now.

he's good but as far a pg's go, CP3, Nash, and Deron are just better.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Lunatic on December 08, 2007, 03:44:30 PM
Why aren't you guys bringing up Baron Davis in the conversation? He's arguably the best at his position right now.

he's good but as far a pg's go, CP3, Nash, and Deron are just better.
agreed
baron a better scorer than them 3 tho, but not as a good as natural PG
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 08, 2007, 03:48:38 PM
Why aren't you guys bringing up Baron Davis in the conversation? He's arguably the best at his position right now.

he's good but as far a pg's go, CP3, Nash, and Deron are just better.
agreed
baron a better scorer than them 3 tho, but not as a good as natural PG

i would compare him more against shooting gaurds, cuz thats his build, regardless of what his "postion" he is.
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Lunatic on December 08, 2007, 03:59:56 PM
Why aren't you guys bringing up Baron Davis in the conversation? He's arguably the best at his position right now.

he's good but as far a pg's go, CP3, Nash, and Deron are just better.
agreed
baron a better scorer than them 3 tho, but not as a good as natural PG
i would compare him more against shooting gaurds, cuz thats his build, regardless of what his "postion" he is.
good point
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 08, 2007, 07:48:52 PM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash

thats a joke and a half! nash, paul, and williams is close, i wont lie. BUT nash such a better shooter, passer, just much better developed offensive player. which is what you want out of your point gaurd. about that D thing you said, your pg isnt pose to play that bowen/artest defense. there pose to bring the ball and control the offensive side of the game, and nash does that better than anyone else in the leauge.


Far from a joke...Parker always shits on Nash when the Suns play the Spurs.

and Baron shitted on Dirk last year in the playoffs, you gunna tell me that baron is better than dirk?


Horrible analogy...Baron and Dirk play 2 different positions. He's better than Jason Terry, though...PeACe

ur not seein the analogy...dirk obv. just isnt good against the warriors, as nash is not against the spurs. ur also forgetting that the spurs are and ELITE defensive team. there elite cuz they can stop a teams top player (like what they did to lebron). so parker doesnt shit on nash, the spurs D shits on nash, and since the suns arent a great defensive team, parker puts up better numbers than usual.


Nash is good against every team, he just doesn't play both ends of the court, like Parker does.
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Post by: wcsoldier on December 10, 2007, 10:37:23 AM
Tony Parker >> Steve Nash

thats a joke and a half! nash, paul, and williams is close, i wont lie. BUT nash such a better shooter, passer, just much better developed offensive player. which is what you want out of your point gaurd. about that D thing you said, your pg isnt pose to play that bowen/artest defense. there pose to bring the ball and control the offensive side of the game, and nash does that better than anyone else in the leauge.


Far from a joke...Parker always shits on Nash when the Suns play the Spurs.

Thats cuz Nash doesn't play defense. He always sucks against PGs that can score a lot (which is why he ran all over Smush Parker then Jordan Farmar). Parker isn't even in the discussion he's not a real PG.

Kidd > Paul > Nash > Williams.
how Parker isn't a real PG ? he always played this position.. he's more a scorer PG than a passer but nowadays who isn't outside Nash and Kidd
Title: Re: "Chris Paul > Steve Nash" - Antonio
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 10, 2007, 11:25:15 AM
LOL@Tony Parker "not a real point guard"...:grumpy: