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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: es-jay on December 08, 2007, 07:19:30 PM
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Dre and Snoop went for Eazy on The Chronic but were any disses thrown at MC Ren or Yella?
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Dre and Snoop went for Eazy on The Chronic but were any disses thrown at MC Ren or Yella?
i dont think so. Snoop said "what up Ren" on The Chronic Intro tho...
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Dre and Snoop went for Eazy on The Chronic but were any disses thrown at MC Ren or Yella?
i dont think so. Snoop said "what up Ren" on The Chronic Intro tho...
^yeah what he said and on MC Ren's ep Kizz My Black Azz which i believe came out at the time eazy & dre were going at it, he had a line saying "I'm with my nigga little nation or my
homey named snoop" i'm guessin' he's talking bout snoop dogg and not just another homie he knows by the nickname snoop. Plus Dre had no reason to have a problem with Ren & Yella, they didn't fuck his money up, that was Jerry & Eazy.
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Dre and Snoop went for Eazy on The Chronic but were any disses thrown at MC Ren or Yella?
i dont think so. Snoop said "what up Ren" on The Chronic Intro tho...
I wayas wondered about that myself, because right before he says "what up ReN' he said something about bitch ass niggaz or something. So when I was younger, I thought he was saying "what up Ren" as if to include ren in that catagory.
Later I read an interview that Ren was still extremley cool with Dre, Dre wnated him on that OG Chronic record, but ofcourse it cou;'ve never happened.
Anyway, Snoop or Ren said that Ren was actually in the studio when they were recording that intro, Ren stopped by, and hence you hear say what he says.
So to my knowledge, no Yella or Ren disses
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The subliminals on "what's the difference" is for Ren.
you mean this:
Spit venom in interviews, speakin on reunions
Move units, then talk shit and we can do this
Until then - I ain't even speakin your name
Just keep my name outta yo' mouth and we can keep it the same
Nigga, it ain't that I'm too big to listen to the rumors
It's just that I'm too damn big to pay attention to 'em
That's the difference
always wondered who dre was talking about.
i think it would have been better if Ren didn't say the things that he said in the interview which you were referring to( instead just talk directly to dre), but the "issue" is solved anyway.
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The subliminals on "what's the difference" is for Ren.
you mean this:
Spit venom in interviews, speakin on reunions
Move units, then talk shit and we can do this
Until then - I ain't even speakin your name
Just keep my name outta yo' mouth and we can keep it the same
Nigga, it ain't that I'm too big to listen to the rumors
It's just that I'm too damn big to pay attention to 'em
That's the difference
always wondered who dre was talked about.
what? Was that aimed at Ren?
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ren and cpo were present for alot the recording of the chronic
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Then I got these fake-ass niggaz I first drew with
Claimin that they non-violent, talkin like they {*voice sample*} - originally "talkin like they ruthless
Spit venom in interviews, speakin on reunions
Move units, then talk shit and we can do this
Until then - I ain't even speakin your name
Just keep my name outta yo' mouth and we can keep it the same, nigga
It ain't that I'm too big to listen to the rumors
It's just that I'm too damn big to pay attention to 'em
That's the difference
that was aimed at Ren.
the thread was more about The Chronic though...
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damn so that is who Dre was goin' at on "What's The Difference", I was wondering about that too
major propz on that info 8)
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I know this is a lil off topic, but to anyone who thinks Yella was the true mastermind of that whole NWA sound... listen to his solo record 1 Mo Nigga Ta Go....
As much as I respect Yella for his history, that solo record was garbage.
It was then that I realized that Dre did everything (atleast at Ruthless)
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The original "What's The Difference" has that "Ruthless" line and it has Hittman instead of Eminem...
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ThaFormula.com - What did you say when Dre took you down to Solar?
MC Ren - From what I saw, I just saw one nigga trying to get niggaz to come over with him. I mean I had seen alot more money by then. I still wasn't getting what I was supposed to be getting, but I wasn't going to go into another fucked up situation. My street smarts said, fuck this. This is a worse situation. That's why I didn't do it. Then when Dre left, Eric was saying we still gonna do NWA. I'm happy I didn't go along with the shit. He said were gonna do the NWA album and we gonna get some more producers. He was saying Yella, Hutch and some new people are gonna produce it. I told him an NWA album is not gonna work without Dre doing the beats. I wasn't about to play myself though. Cube left, Dre left. The beat mutherfuckers and one of the hardest lyricists in the group. We ain't got shit. I wasn't about to rap over any niggaz beat back then, because you know niggaz beats back then was wack. I mean how you gonna go from the top muthafucka to that. When I told Eazy I wasn't gonna do the NWA album, me and him didn't talk for like a year or two. Probably longer then that. When Dre was doing the first Chronic album, I was still talking to Dre. I would go to his house and be kicking it. That's why Snoop says in the Intro of the Chronic, "What up Ren." Cause I used to be there kicking it with niggaz. I told Erick and Dre that the problem was between them and that I didn't have nothing to do with that. I'm not about to be dissin' neither of you. That's why when Eazy was dissin' Dre, I wasn't in on that and Dre dissin' him, I wasn't in on that. I was just neutral.
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to anyone who thinks Yella was the true mastermind of that whole NWA sound... listen to his solo record 1 Mo Nigga Ta Go....
As much as I respect Yella for his history,that solo record was garbage.
It was then that I realized that Dre did everything
Well,I like that album...
if you check the "yomo&maulkie" that yella produced maybe you'll change your opion
Fair enough.
It's just that i've heard many people say Yella actually produced everything for Dre, and Dre just stole the credit... But when you listen to One Mo... you can tell Yella just wans't on Dre's level.
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to anyone who thinks Yella was the true mastermind of that whole NWA sound... listen to his solo record 1 Mo Nigga Ta Go....
As much as I respect Yella for his history,that solo record was garbage.
It was then that I realized that Dre did everything
Well,I like that album...
if you check the "yomo&maulkie" that yella produced maybe you'll change your opion
Fair enough.
It's just that i've heard many people say Yella actually produced everything for Dre, and Dre just stole the credit... But when you listen to One Mo... you can tell Yella just wans't on Dre's level.
MC Ren's opinion -
ThaFormula.com - Now what about the production of "Eazy-Duz-It?" Was everyone involved in that album?
MC Ren - Nah, that was just straight Dre. Every album was just straight Dre. It had on there produced by Dre & Yella but Yella was just like his assistant and shit. Like, "do this for me, hand me that, push that." It was all Dre with the beats. Dre would just be in there like, "we 'gon rap to this one." He was controllin' all that and that's why it was so hard.
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+1 for the info there Prominent.
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what was yella's role in nwa
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150727.0
I remember reading from an interview with The D.O.C. that Yella was the guy that knew everything about all the technical shit with the equipment.
here it is:
ThaFormula.com - So tell me what exactly did Yella do for NWA?
D.O.C. - Yella was sorta the technical kind of dude. He understood the machines that these guys worked on. He knew them backwards and forwards. He was great with the tape machines, drum machines, and boards. I'll put it to you like this. I considered myself to be another pair of ears in the studio when Dre was working. Well, if I was another pair of ears, then Yella was another pair of hands. It's hard to make a great record by yourself man. There will always be at least 5 great musicians together to make a classic record. That's what we had with NWA's records, that's what we had with the first Chronic record.
Anybody who hasn't read it before should check it out: http://www.thaformula.com/doc_ruthless_to_death_row_thaformula_music.html
Yella also played drums on a couple of tracks did he not?
DJ Yella interview;
http://www.aftermathmusic.com/_interviews/djyella_october_2003.html
Aftermathmusic.com:
We all know you as a former member, producer of the NWA. But please introduce yourself for the young fans and give them some short information about you.
DJ Yella:
Woow. Oh ok. Me and Dr. Dre produced all the NWA and Eazy E, all the Ruthless stuff back in the days. We sold 10 million records probably. I produced over 150 adult movies. I?m doin everything (laughs)
Aftermathmusic.com:
Why the name DJ Yella?
DJ Yella:
Actually it came from a record. They say Yella at the beginning of the song. A DJ friend of mine, gave me the name and I started with it.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Who are the biggest influences for you?
DJ Yella:
Really? There were no influences for us, because when we started back then, the rap was kinda new. So, we had nobody to look up. But maybe Run DMC. Run DMC was like the heavyweights there. So there was nobody. We had to learn everything on our own.
Aftermathmusic.com:
When did you start to notice a big chance in HipHop. And what made you try to live from music?
DJ Yella:
I guess, at the Eazy E.'s death I was kinda bored with it. Once he died, I was just like 'Ok, I?m just done, I?m, just finished.'
Aftermathmusic.com:
Tell us a little bit about the World Class Wreckin Cru, please!
DJ Yella:
Well, me and Dre was in it. Before that Dre and I were DJ's in a club. We were DJ's in a club for a year or 2 and then we called the Wreckin crew as a DJ crew. We started making records. We made 2 albums but we never got paided. Thats why we left the Wreckin crew. After that, we started NWA.
Aftermathmusic.com:
You are always seen as NWA's quietest member ...
DJ Yella:
Oh yes. I was the quietest person.
Aftermathmusic.com:
You said "I don't think NWA started West Coast" ... Who started the Westcoast for you?
DJ Yella:
Uuumm. I think the Wreckin crew started the Westcoast before NWA. But NWA actually ... uuum, we started the whole Gangsta Rap, when it was called back then. But actually the Wreckin crew started the Westcoast sound.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Looking back at the start of NWA ... Whats's your most important impressions from the start till the end of the NWA?
DJ Yella:
I guess, the most important thang was we made music how we like it, you know and not trying to make some for somebody else or tryin' to make a hit. We never tryin' to make a hit. We made music. So that's what it really was.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Everyone compares you to Dre and says, in NWA Dre was the musicial brains and you was just the extra pair of hands on the technical side. Is that true?
DJ Yella:
Yeah, I mean, you know ... oh yeah. I recorded everything. Me and Dre was all the time in the studio. More than other members.
Aftermathmusic.com:
If you look at the situation with the police in the states today. Would you like to record a song like "@#%$ the Police" again?
DJ Yella:
Naaw. I don't think I would make a song like that. (laughs). The society is totally changed. And when we made the song we wanted to start no controversy. It just the way we felt, growing up in th ghetto.
Aftermathmusic.com:
How much of NWA's early production was really you and how much did Dre do?
DJ Yella:
Dre definetely did most of it. But we both produced, like in the Wreckin crew. In the Wreckin Dre did half and I did the other half. In the NWA it was more Dre and a group thang, too.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Yeah, you know, a lot of fans said, it's a shame that all NWA's credit goes to Dr. Dre and Ice Cube and you ghost produced all NWA's @#%$ and did some dope @#%$ 4 Eazy on 187(Dr. Dre its on). What's your thoughts about those comments?
DJ Yella:
Really? .. Uuum you know, NWA was a group. It was no one man. Everybody was together. Everybody contribute. Dre did a lot and still. We was a team for almost 10 years.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Was you even asked to be in the new NWA, 'cause you haven't never been mentioned in all the NWA reunion hype.
DJ Yella:
Well, there wasn't no NWA reunion. There was a couple of songs they did on Cube's album. And Ren and Dre was invited to rap on the song, but the media builted up for look like NWA. That's all. If there is a reunion, I`d be in it.
Aftermathmusic.com:
How is your relationship with everybody from the group?
DJ Yella:
I don't talk to everybody as much, but everything is still ok.
Aftermathmusic.com:
You know, the fans wanna a NWA reunion, but with old Eazy verses and not with Snoop. Could this happened?
DJ Yella:
Uuum, if there's one, I have to talk to Dre. We have to sit down and do it. Snoop would NOT be a member, he would just be a guest rapper, you know.
Aftermathmusic.com:
What's the most often asked question N.W.A. gets hit with, that you hate to get hit with?
DJ Yella:
Uuuum, that's a good one (laughs). There were so many ... Uuum, 'How did the group started' is probably one, 'Where we get the name from' and I don't really know where the name came from. Was it from Eazy or Dre or Cube. I don't really know (laughs).
Aftermathmusic.com:
Long before Snoop Dogg released his Doggystyle movie, you was in the porn industry. Since your main focus in porn how did you get into that?
DJ Yella:
I have been shooting porn films for 8 years. I've directed over 250 movies. Snoop came out, when I put my name on it. I was doin porn when Eazy E was alive. A friend of mine, called Big Man, brought me the idea. He originally brought the idea to Eazy E, but he didn't really jump on it. But I jumped on it. I don't know why, but I did.
Aftermathmusic.com:
So, what made you decide to use the name DJ Yella in porn after so many years of not using it?
DJ Yella:
Uum, when we did the movies, I thought 'I can be gettin credit for this'. So I decided to use my name and my face on it. I just wanted to get credits for it. I shot so many without my name on it. That's all.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Your plans are releasing one video a month through Yella Entertainment www.djyella.net/ ? One video per month? Damn?
DJ Yella:
Actually I put out 1-2 movies per month. But the ones with the music I wanna get close to almost one every month. I actually have a soundtrack to it.
Aftermathmusic.com:
You mean the "Bangin? in LA" DVD?
DJ Yella:
Yes. On the CD is the song with me an Ren.
Aftermathmusic.com:
The song is great ...
DJ Yella:
(laughs) ... yeah it is.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Since I buy Yella's porn @#%$ I want to know who are your favorite girls to shoot and who you want to shoot?
DJ Yella:
The favourite girl is Obsession www.urbaneyecandy.net/mod...ot007.jpg. I also like this girl called Ice www.urbaneyecandy.net/mod...not010.jpg which is one the cover of the "Bangin" one. Obsession and Ice - I definetily like them.
Aftermathmusic.com:
What's up with the music productions for the DVD's? Did you all the production?
DJ Yella:
Oh yeah. I did everything.
Aftermathmusic.com:
1st of all, how did you hook up with Eazy E.?
DJ Yella:
Actually Dre knew Eazy, when me and Dre was in the Wreckin crew. Dre knew him from his neighbourhood. And Dre was bringin him around. Because originally, Eazy was no Ruthless. He hang around with 2 guys from New York. They recorded a song together, but they told him, the song wasn't good enough and they didn't wanna do more. So, Dre made Eazy doin. I met Dre I met Eazy during that time.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Please tell us about your friendship with Eazy?
DJ Yella:
Uuumm you know, we were like partners, great partners. That's why I never left him, because he never did anything bad to me. So I jumped on the ship (Ruthless). If the company is good to you, stay with it.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Eazy died on AIDS - what was your reaction when you heard about it?
DJ Yella:
I actually heard it before the world heard it. And I was like '@#%$ the life'. So I was done for music, really! I was really done with it.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Where all of you guys in the hospital?
DJ Yella:
I only got to see him one time. He was already like in a coma. Dre came in later ... I don't know if Cube or Ren came to see Eazy.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Was Eazy's death a reason to leave Ruthless?
DJ Yella:
I don't know. I didn't talk to him so much. I didn't know he was sick. It was like a month he was sick for a while. And I really didn't talk to him within a month. He was sick and he wasn't trying to tell me. But by the time I found out he was sick it was to late. He already was in a coma. So, I couldn't even talk to him.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Is it true that Dresta bought the last remaining (unheard) Eazy tracks off you?
DJ Yella:
No. I got the last Eazy track which is never coming out. I got the last. I made his last 2-3 songs. There's 1 or 2 that Ruthless has, that I don't think it's been out yet. But I got 1 track that nobody has. It was actually a diss.
Aftermathmusic.com:
A Diss?
DJ Yella:
Yeah. It was a diss to Cube. And I'll never release that. So that's a track which nobody will hear.
Aftermathmusic.com:
What happened to those Eazy-E tracks you did with DJ Quik?
DJ Yella:
There were no vocals on it. It was just a couple of tracks. So we did a lot of tracks that never even got the vocals.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Is there anything else you'd like to tell us about Eazy E.?
DJ Yella:
To me he was a good person. Not a good person, a great person. He started a lot of stuff, he helped a lot of charity, he loved his kids. He was one of the pioneers, NWA was the whole pioneers. But if you look at all the groups, they came from us. So that's what music is today. So we started it and other groups came out. Dre still producing groups. So there's a lot of music that came some way through Ruthless.
Aftermathmusic.com:
You haven't seen Dre in years. Is there nothing between you guys?
DJ Yella:
I talked to Dre last year. Everytime I see him, it's like the old times. There's no beef between us. Never real beef. When Eazy made the diss song I was not in the video and nothing. I had no reason to diss Dre.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Please tell something about the production process together with Dre back in the days, who came with the ideas and such.
DJ Yella:
He came out with most of the ideas. He listened to old records or he called me 'I got this in my mind' ... Bumm bumm and we went into the studio. He was in the studio more time than anybody. The other people came around and do there vocals. And Dre was there all the time.
Aftermathmusic.com:
There has been a long history of artists saying that Dre steals beats, from your experience how true is it?
DJ Yella:
What? Oh nawww. Dre don't steal beats. That's bullshit. He listened to a record, get's a idea from .. that's it.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Did you read the Source article about Aftermath and Dr. Dre? Some of Dr. Dre's closest associates, Big Chuck, Mel Man and Neff-U, have broken ties with Aftermath and are ready to expose some of the label?s secrets. They?re ready to get the credit they deserve. What's your thoughts on this the article, that Dre is taking all credits of the beats?
DJ Yella:
Not really. But the thang is, he has a staff around him that make him tracks. The bring him tracks. He can say: 'I like this, I like that.' Whether they keep their publishing and all that that was up to them. If they sold him the tracks, thats their mistakes. While Dre is taking the tracks? He's bringing the success and that's why they upset. Dre is doing business and I?m sure he's paid well for. They should handle the deals like I want publishing, I want this and I want that. Thats the deal. He doesn't steal beats. I know Dre since the early 80' and he's stealing nothing.
Aftermathmusic.com:
That's a very good statement. So, Ice Cube is working with Dr. Dre on his upcomin album? Can we expect some productions from you, too?
DJ Yella:
I doubt it. I haven't talk to Cube in a while. He's doin his own thing and stuff like that. I?m just staying with my music, but we do a reunion album, I?d jump on. Right now, I just wanna do soundtracks for the movies. And the matter of fact, the next movie I do is with Ren again. I wanna do that one more time.
Aftermathmusic.com:
The Aftermath n Shady artists - Your thoughts on Eminem and 50 Cent?
DJ Yella:
I think they are great. Both are heavyweights now. You know, but it all comes from Dre. Without Dre would they heavyweights? I don't know. Dre is one gifted producer. I?m not trying to say 'He's the greatest', but he's really gifted. And I see this since 20 years. And that's what made the Eminem, now 50 Cent ... That's all Dre. They're great rappers. But is a beat better than the rappers? So, is the music better? So it's all a combination. They're great rappers and then they got a great producer behind. Dre makes the heavyweights and they should be heavyweights for a while til the day they messed up himself. And that's stupid. They could be heavyweights for few albums. If you see Eminem, he got few albums out.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Any words to Dr. Dre and Ice Cube or do you have anything to say about them?
DJ Yella:
Dre ... give me a call (laughs loud). We haven't talked in a while. We usually sit there and talked for a while. And don't change your number so much, I can't catch you. And to Cube ... I have nothing against nobody. Matter of fact, I like the interview with Dre on one of my movies, so you should make sure, he gets that message (laughs).
Aftermathmusic.com:
I?m trying to call him or his management soon.
DJ Yella:
Ok thanks!
Aftermathmusic.com:
What can you tell us about Dirty Red aka Shaki?
DJ Yella:
When Eazy died, all that got cut off. He was a good rapper. I liked his style, his voice and everything. He was there on the wrong time.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Who do you think really has the potential to blow up on the Westcoast at the moment? Is it Game, Crooked I or Ren?
DJ Yella:
Ren definetely. But music is coming from everywhere now. It's not East or West. So it's kinda hard who can be dominate. There're so many rappers now. But only few is gonna be heavyweights. But these heavyweights are in all different parts of the country now.
Aftermathmusic.com:
What's your thoughts on DeathRow and Suge Knight right now?
DJ Yella:
I never said anything about it and I definetely not start today.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Is that true that you worked on the upcomin 213 album?
DJ Yella:
No that's not true.
Aftermathmusic.com:
What do you think of all the beefs in rap game right now?
DJ Yella:
It's all bullshit (laughs). Some people started beefs to sell their own records and stuff like that. But if there's a beef with a heavyweight people listen to that beef more.
Aftermathmusic.com:
What are you going to be doing after Rens album is finished?
DJ Yella:
Uuum I should be like hopefully the biggest black director in the porn industry. That's my goal. Cause I have soundtracks on the movies, and that's what I really focus on Hip Hop porn.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Since you last produced, there has been an army of new producers like Kanye West, Just Blaze, Neptunes, Mel Man... and old producers like Dre who be droppin hot @#%$. How are you gonna enter in to producing again and what sound will he be bringing?
DJ Yella:
Well, I?m not trying to bring the songs for the music side. I'm recording songs for the porn industry. So I?m not be in a competition with these other people, because in the porn side is nobody there. People under contracts can't really do soundtracks for the porn.
Aftermathmusic.com:
So if you are gonna bring that NWA sound back or if you are gonna try something new?
DJ Yella:
Uuuumm, I don't know. Music has changed my life. So I can't go back to the old sounds. The old was great, you know, but it's old now.
Aftermathmusic.com:
What todays new rappers would Yella like to create music with?
DJ Yella:
Ooohh ... that's a good question. There're so many good once with different styles. I can't pick it's hard. But definetely 50 Cent and Eminem. Of course Ren. But you know, it's hard, it's really hard to decide.
Aftermathmusic.com:
What's in the future for you? How do you see yourself in the next 5 years?
DJ Yella:
I?m gonna be the #1 black distributor in porn. In 5 years? Oh yeah. Definetely. I've been there in 8 - 9 years. I know this business. So my future is Hip Hop porn.
DJ YELLA Q & A (1 word)
NWA: Great
2Pac: Good
Your album "one mo nigga to go": Ohh ... Damn (Laughs) .. one word? Classic
Ruthless: History
Dr. Dre: Gifted
Westcoast Rap at the moment: Hot
Aftermathmusic.com:
Any last words and any shout outs to Aftermathmusic.com?
DJ Yella:
This is DJ Yella and Aftermathmusic.com is #1. Look out for DJ Yella, you know, the 'Bangin in LA' and hopefully Dre will call me after this interview and me and Timba hook up or something.
Aftermathmusic.com:
Thank you for your time and for the interview!
DJ Yella:
Yeah no problem. Keep in touch!
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good thread. thanks for the info.
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whats the difference line was aimed at lonzo from world class wreckin cru, he was interviewed by the source,and was asked about a wreckin cru reunion.thats what dre was talkin bout
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^^^^^^
LOL, Damn, so which one is it?
Lonzo from the Wrecking Crew, or Lorenzo, a.k.a. MC Ren?
Because both stories have a piece of truth to them
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^^^^^^
LOL, Damn, so which one is it?
Lonzo from the Wrecking Crew, or Lorenzo, a.k.a. MC Ren?
Because both stories have a piece of truth to them
Its about Ren. In the OG version the muffled voice sample when he says "Claimin' that they non-violent, talkin like they *voice sample*" says Ruthless.
Also Xzibit rhymes later on the track "Shittin' on villians by the millions." Guess who refers to himself as the villain?
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interesting info