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Title: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 09, 2007, 01:07:19 AM
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The Lakers probably were not going to win 50 games, but Coach Phil Jackson made it semi-official Saturday.

Following practice, Jackson said he had told his players after a 127-99 win over Denver on Nov. 29 that they were not good enough to win 50 games.

The Lakers will play their 20th game of the season tonight, against Golden State at Staples Center.

As Jackson sees it, that is five games past the fail-safe point for establishing a team's direction for the season. It is the first 15 games, he said, that set the tone for the season, when teams get into habits that will last for the rest of the season.

That win over the Nuggets came in the Lakers' 15th game and left them with a 9-6 record. They are now 11-8, and have yet to impress anyone, apparently. Certainly not their coach.

"We haven't really started to do some of the other structural things we want to do with the team," said Jackson, who agreed to a two-year contract extension on the day of the Denver game. "We need to open a run again and find a way to win two or three games in a row and get some momentum."

Injuries have been a factor in the team's start. Kwame Brown has missed 12 games, Lamar Odom and Ronny Turiaf four each, Chris Mihm two, Vladimir Radmanovic one and Andrew Bynum one.

If he's trying to play mind games then he should know better than anyone that its not a good idea with our roster, he said it himself that this team has the collective IQ of a slug.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 09, 2007, 01:38:10 AM
We will get at least 50 wins.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: WC Iz Active on December 09, 2007, 01:45:25 AM
^^LOL  yeah right.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 09, 2007, 01:48:58 AM
Do you wanna bet?
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Antonio_ on December 09, 2007, 03:18:31 AM
Mind games.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: hisairness on December 09, 2007, 09:49:09 AM
Do you wanna bet?

I'd love to take you up on that statement.

The Lakers don't get 50 wins, you step down as moderator and ban yourself til next years season starts.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 09, 2007, 12:06:49 PM
Do you wanna bet?

I'd love to take you up on that statement.

The Lakers don't get 50 wins, you step down as moderator and ban yourself til next years season starts.

Ooh now thats interesting. The problem is there's nothing you can do to equal that if you lose.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 09, 2007, 12:31:56 PM
How bout you bet me some cash? 200 bux, little man.

New Orleans Hornets - 13-7
Utah Jazz - 13-8
Denver Nuggets - 13-8
Dallas Mavericks - 13-8
Los Angeles Lakers - 11-8
Golden State Warriors - 11-8
Houston Rockets - 11-10


Despite the injuries and tough scheduling, looks like were right up in the mix. 8)
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: thisoneguy360 on December 09, 2007, 12:59:05 PM
That's not a smart thing to say with guys like Kwame Brown on your team..
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: hisairness on December 09, 2007, 02:15:44 PM
How bout you bet me some cash? 200 bux, little man.

New Orleans Hornets - 13-7
Utah Jazz - 13-8
Denver Nuggets - 13-8
Dallas Mavericks - 13-8
Los Angeles Lakers - 11-8
Golden State Warriors - 11-8
Houston Rockets - 11-10


Despite the injuries and tough scheduling, looks like were right up in the mix. 8)

Sure.

Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Vegasmac25 on December 09, 2007, 04:48:58 PM
im a huge Laker fan but they fucking still lose to garbage teams which they should bet hands down.There is no way we will have a 50 win season until we start playing some fucking defense.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on December 09, 2007, 07:04:24 PM
How bout you bet me some cash? 200 bux, little man.

New Orleans Hornets - 13-7
Utah Jazz - 13-8
Denver Nuggets - 13-8
Dallas Mavericks - 13-8
Los Angeles Lakers - 11-8
Golden State Warriors - 11-8
Houston Rockets - 11-10


Despite the injuries and tough scheduling, looks like were right up in the mix. 8)


Yeah but right in the mix is not goood enough for the Lakers. Its like the Yankees or The Montreal Canadiens in hockey in the mix is not good enough we need to be on top of the mix
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Vegasmac25 on December 09, 2007, 09:22:53 PM
Good fucking win tonight vs the warriors now they need to step it up vs the spurs thursday night.Cannot wait for that game.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Bay Area Jat on December 09, 2007, 10:20:49 PM
Do you wanna bet?

another 100 lakers won't win 50
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: wcsoldier on December 10, 2007, 01:45:20 AM
January

 Thu 31  @ Detroit   

February
 Fri 01  @ Toronto   
 Sun 03  @ Washington   
 Tue 05  @ New Jersey   
 Wed 06  @ Atlanta   
 Fri 08  @ Orlando   
  Sun 10  @ Miami   
 Mon 11  @ Charlotte   
 Wed 13  @ Minnesota     


March
Fri 14  @ New Orleans   
 Sun 16  @ Houston   
 Tue 18  @ Dallas   
 Thu 20  @ Utah   


With this schedule , if we get 50 wins , it's easily worth 55-60 wins with a "normal" calendar

 :grumpy: :grumpy: at the Lakers getting screwed by the NBA once again


Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 10, 2007, 09:39:16 AM
How bout you bet me some cash? 200 bux, little man.

New Orleans Hornets - 13-7
Utah Jazz - 13-8
Denver Nuggets - 13-8
Dallas Mavericks - 13-8
Los Angeles Lakers - 11-8
Golden State Warriors - 11-8
Houston Rockets - 11-10


Despite the injuries and tough scheduling, looks like were right up in the mix. 8)


Yeah but right in the mix is not goood enough for the Lakers. Its like the Yankees or The Montreal Canadiens in hockey in the mix is not good enough we need to be on top of the mix


I don't think there's anything wrong with being in the mix with contenders...
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 10, 2007, 09:41:02 AM
Do you wanna bet?

another 100 lakers won't win 50


alright...so we got a bill on the Lakers finishing ahead of GS and now that they win 50 games. This is gunna be a good April. 8)
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Antonio_ on December 10, 2007, 09:52:30 AM
Damn, man. OBVIOUSLY the Lakers are gonna finish ahead of GS!! That's an easy win, for you.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on December 10, 2007, 10:22:24 PM
How bout you bet me some cash? 200 bux, little man.

New Orleans Hornets - 13-7
Utah Jazz - 13-8
Denver Nuggets - 13-8
Dallas Mavericks - 13-8
Los Angeles Lakers - 11-8
Golden State Warriors - 11-8
Houston Rockets - 11-10


Despite the injuries and tough scheduling, looks like were right up in the mix. 8)


Yeah but right in the mix is not goood enough for the Lakers. Its like the Yankees or The Montreal Canadiens in hockey in the mix is not good enough we need to be on top of the mix


I don't think there's anything wrong with being in the mix with contenders...

I dont think there anything wrong but when youre wining franchises and with rich history like franchises ive named these teams should always be above the average imo
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 11, 2007, 10:31:10 AM
How bout you bet me some cash? 200 bux, little man.

New Orleans Hornets - 13-7
Utah Jazz - 13-8
Denver Nuggets - 13-8
Dallas Mavericks - 13-8
Los Angeles Lakers - 11-8
Golden State Warriors - 11-8
Houston Rockets - 11-10


Despite the injuries and tough scheduling, looks like were right up in the mix. 8)


Yeah but right in the mix is not goood enough for the Lakers. Its like the Yankees or The Montreal Canadiens in hockey in the mix is not good enough we need to be on top of the mix


I don't think there's anything wrong with being in the mix with contenders...

I dont think there anything wrong but when youre wining franchises and with rich history like franchises ive named these teams should always be above the average imo


Being in the mix with contenders IS above average.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 11, 2007, 01:17:29 PM
Jeannie Buss on AM 570: Phil did NOT say Lakers couldn't win 50 Games

Jeannie said that the LA Times article was not written by the normal beat writer (bresnahan), and that Phil was never quoted saying the Lakers could not win 50 games. Phil told her that he would never put such a numerical goal to the players, mostly because it would set the low bar - he wants them to think they could win more than 50.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on December 12, 2007, 10:51:38 AM
How bout you bet me some cash? 200 bux, little man.

New Orleans Hornets - 13-7
Utah Jazz - 13-8
Denver Nuggets - 13-8
Dallas Mavericks - 13-8
Los Angeles Lakers - 11-8
Golden State Warriors - 11-8
Houston Rockets - 11-10


Despite the injuries and tough scheduling, looks like were right up in the mix. 8)


Yeah but right in the mix is not goood enough for the Lakers. Its like the Yankees or The Montreal Canadiens in hockey in the mix is not good enough we need to be on top of the mix


I don't think there's anything wrong with being in the mix with contenders...

I dont think there anything wrong but when youre wining franchises and with rich history like franchises ive named these teams should always be above the average imo


Being in the mix with contenders IS above average.

Im realy suprisd by youre acceptence for average performances of yue team.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 12, 2007, 03:10:05 PM
How bout you bet me some cash? 200 bux, little man.

New Orleans Hornets - 13-7
Utah Jazz - 13-8
Denver Nuggets - 13-8
Dallas Mavericks - 13-8
Los Angeles Lakers - 11-8
Golden State Warriors - 11-8
Houston Rockets - 11-10


Despite the injuries and tough scheduling, looks like were right up in the mix. 8)


Yeah but right in the mix is not goood enough for the Lakers. Its like the Yankees or The Montreal Canadiens in hockey in the mix is not good enough we need to be on top of the mix


I don't think there's anything wrong with being in the mix with contenders...

I dont think there anything wrong but when youre wining franchises and with rich history like franchises ive named these teams should always be above the average imo


Being in the mix with contenders IS above average.

Im realy suprisd by youre acceptence for average performances of yue team.



ONCE AGAIN, how does being a contender equate to being average? Please make sense and try harder to comprehend.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on December 12, 2007, 03:23:11 PM
When you wrote that your team was 11-8 thats very mediorcore in my opinion. My team the Montreal canadiens in hockey were playing something like6-7 games over 500 but yetand sill there mediocore and i cannot accept them juts being in the ix with contenders.
And i think same can be said about Laker and Yankee fans.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: J$crILLa on December 12, 2007, 03:31:46 PM
phil just talkin shit
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 12, 2007, 03:59:20 PM
When you wrote that your team was 11-8 thats very mediorcore in my opinion. My team the Montreal canadiens in hockey were playing something like6-7 games over 500 but yetand sill there mediocore and i cannot accept them juts being in the ix with contenders.
And i think same can be said about Laker and Yankee fans.


12-8 is considered good in the west and considered excellent for a battered team in the west...Especially with our opening schedule.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 13, 2007, 08:34:24 PM
^^^^ 12-8 puts you on pace for about 49-50 wins....so its a possibility. I dont think theyll hit 50 though.

My prediction...45-37...

and so it was written....lol
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 17, 2007, 10:40:51 AM
You wanna jump in on the bet?
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: wcsoldier on December 18, 2007, 01:37:28 AM
^^^^ How many "official" bets do u have , I've lost track  ;D
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 18, 2007, 12:01:16 PM
I have a bet with Jat that a.)Lakers finish ahead of Warriors and b.)Lakers win at least 50 games. Each bet is for a bill. 8)
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Bay Area Jat on December 18, 2007, 12:08:44 PM
^^ i should win both bets  8)
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 19, 2007, 07:46:21 PM
You wanna jump in on the bet?

its only gambling when you're not sure you'll win. You gamble...i don't  ;) Its reward enough to see you back pedal in April.  8)
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 20, 2007, 01:14:30 PM
That's a nice excuse to save yourself from looking like a pussy.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 20, 2007, 05:20:49 PM
That's a nice excuse to save yourself from looking like a pussy.

Not an excuse homie. Just not interested in betting on some shit I could care less about...with some online character I could care less about. And Im not too concerned about Mr Beverly Hills (or wherever youre from) callin me pussy lol.

Bottom line, like I said....you guys may or may not hit 50 wins. Youre on pace to right now. Good for you. I dont give a shit tho you know? Im more concerned with the championship contenders in the West...not the Lakers.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 20, 2007, 06:03:23 PM
Speaking of the Spurs, one more loss and you're right there with us...
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 20, 2007, 06:42:24 PM
Speaking of the Spurs, one more loss and you're right there with us...

yeah...this 2 game slide dropped us down to first place in the West. Sucks. Playing without Parker and Duncan would be like the Lakers playing without Kobe and.....another superstar if they had one.  ;D You know the deal NIK....basketball talk is meaningless until the playoffs. Funny thing is, we've done better as far as winning championships in years where we werent the top team heading into the playoffs. Im hoping for a #2 seed lol
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 20, 2007, 06:44:22 PM
Speaking of the Spurs, one more loss and you're right there with us...

yeah...this 2 game slide dropped us down to first place in the West. Sucks. Playing without Parker and Duncan would be like the Lakers playing without Kobe and.....another superstar if they had one.  ;D You know the deal NIK....basketball talk is meaningless until the playoffs. Funny thing is, we've done better as far as winning championships in years where we werent the top team heading into the playoffs. Im hoping for a #2 seed lol

btw....

Spurs 18-7
Lakers 15-9

one more loss would make us 2 games ahead of you....
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 20, 2007, 08:02:01 PM
Speaking of the Spurs, one more loss and you're right there with us...

yeah...this 2 game slide dropped us down to first place in the West. Sucks. Playing without Parker and Duncan would be like the Lakers playing without Kobe and.....another superstar if they had one.  ;D You know the deal NIK....basketball talk is meaningless until the playoffs. Funny thing is, we've done better as far as winning championships in years where we werent the top team heading into the playoffs. Im hoping for a #2 seed lol


Spurs are never going to repeat. End of story.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 21, 2007, 01:27:19 PM
Speaking of the Spurs, one more loss and you're right there with us...

yeah...this 2 game slide dropped us down to first place in the West. Sucks. Playing without Parker and Duncan would be like the Lakers playing without Kobe and.....another superstar if they had one.  ;D You know the deal NIK....basketball talk is meaningless until the playoffs. Funny thing is, we've done better as far as winning championships in years where we werent the top team heading into the playoffs. Im hoping for a #2 seed lol


Spurs are never going to repeat. End of story.

while we talk about whether the Spurs will repeat....we talk about whether the Lakers will see round 2. Kind of funny.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 21, 2007, 03:44:10 PM
Speaking of the Spurs, one more loss and you're right there with us...

yeah...this 2 game slide dropped us down to first place in the West. Sucks. Playing without Parker and Duncan would be like the Lakers playing without Kobe and.....another superstar if they had one.  ;D You know the deal NIK....basketball talk is meaningless until the playoffs. Funny thing is, we've done better as far as winning championships in years where we werent the top team heading into the playoffs. Im hoping for a #2 seed lol


Spurs are never going to repeat. End of story.

while we talk about whether the Spurs will repeat....we talk about whether the Lakers will see round 2. Kind of funny.


You do realize that once Duncan retires, you're still a Spurs fan, right? While your team may be winning now, the Laker franchise is known for its winning tradition. As of now, we have the best player in the league AND a future dominant force on the same team. Young talent, great supporting cast, the best coach, the best player in the league... that's more than enough to make us contenders. 8)
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: SGV on December 21, 2007, 04:28:04 PM
What happens to the Lakers when Kobe retires?

The Spurs still have Tony Parker after Duncan retires, remember that. And the Spurs withouth Duncan and Parker weren't too far off from beating the Lakers. Throw Parker in the mix and the Spurs are still a good team.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 21, 2007, 06:47:40 PM
What happens to the Lakers when Kobe retires?

The Spurs still have Tony Parker after Duncan retires, remember that. And the Spurs withouth Duncan and Parker weren't too far off from beating the Lakers. Throw Parker in the mix and the Spurs are still a good team.

Lakers will always be one of the, if not the most attractive teams to NBA free agents...When Kobe retires, we have a beast in Bynum and the market to sign any free agent we want. The Laker legacy lives forever.
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 22, 2007, 05:07:19 PM
We will get at least 50 wins.

if you add last seasons total yes
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 23, 2007, 02:50:17 PM
^If we add last seasons total we'll be nearing 100. 8)
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 24, 2007, 11:48:03 AM
^If we add last seasons total we'll be nearing 100. 8)

lol

realistically though, ill give you props man this lakers team is the best since they traded shaq

45-37 is my prediction for them
Title: Re: Phil Jackson says a 50-win season is out of reach
Post by: Sccit on March 23, 2011, 02:52:43 AM
^^ i should win both bets  8)


never got paid on this ??


funny, considering jat stayed true 2 a previous bet we made.