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Title: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 11, 2007, 12:00:53 PM
Can we please see JaMarcus Russell in action? You know that #1 pick that signed a record contract with the team? I'm talking about him.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Tekniec on December 11, 2007, 12:20:33 PM
yea they should let him start, whats the hold up cuz they aint going nowhere... i wanna atleast see him play against the chargers

its still fuck the raiders!
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Bay Area Jat on December 11, 2007, 12:23:46 PM
Can we please see JaMarcus Russell in action? You know that #1 pick that signed a record contract with the team? I'm talking about him.

its already been determined that JaMonster will see some action this weekend at home against the colts
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 11, 2007, 12:29:38 PM
Sweet. 8) But I want to see him start against the Chargers.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: eS El Duque on December 11, 2007, 04:33:54 PM
when i was in green bay this weekend...i thought we were gonna see Jrock in the 4th...he took off his coat...but they sent walters out there agian
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Bay Area Jat on December 11, 2007, 05:05:11 PM
when i was in green bay this weekend...i thought we were gonna see Jrock in the 4th...he took off his coat...but they sent walters out there agian

its JaMonster not Jrock
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: herpes on December 11, 2007, 07:05:16 PM
I'm calling it right now.... the black Ryan Leaf.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: eS El Duque on December 11, 2007, 09:47:53 PM
when i was in green bay this weekend...i thought we were gonna see Jrock in the 4th...he took off his coat...but they sent walters out there agian

its JaMonster not Jrock

J ROCK!
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Don Jacob on December 12, 2007, 12:20:59 AM
I'm calling it right now.... the black Ryan Leaf.

yeah i can kinda see that happening. that or an eli manning....doesn't live up to the hype.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 13, 2007, 08:18:48 PM
I'm calling it right now.... the black Ryan Leaf.

yeah i can kinda see that happening. that or an eli manning....doesn't live up to the hype.

naw, theres no evidence to suggest he would be anywhere NEAR the bust that Ryan Leaf was. Even Manning for that matter. At the same time though, theres no comparison between Manning and Ryan Leaf. Manning hasnt lived up to the hype yet....but Leaf had a serious mental problem lol. A mental problem paired with the frustration of needing to be the savior on an organization that wasnt committed to winning. Its all a matter of what Al Davis surrounds this kid with. Dont expect him to save the organization....thats unfair if he isnt given the tools to succeed. I like what Kiffin is doing so far with the running game...they should keep focusing on that even when Russell takes over. Thatll take the pressure off him bigtime and allow him to go down the field with the ball which is what Im sure Al is hoping for. Id love to see another deep threat at wide out though for us.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Bay Area Jat on December 16, 2007, 02:05:37 AM
I'm calling it right now.... the black Ryan Leaf.

-1
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Bay Area Jat on December 16, 2007, 02:07:30 AM
ill be in the club come sunday. section 213 wit the special wristband dem $148 tickets. loud on defense shut the fuck up on offense ya bitch. it was the oakland raiders we aint nothing but playas, diamonds glistening hoes whilsting
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 16, 2007, 09:43:51 AM
Can we please see JaMarcus Russell in action? You know that #1 pick that signed a record contract with the team? I'm talking about him.

its already been determined that JaMonster will see some action this weekend at home against the colts

First NFL action against the Colts D?  Have fun with that shit...
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: herpes on December 16, 2007, 10:26:20 AM
I'm calling it right now.... the black Ryan Leaf.

-1

Lmfao another cali person with hurt feelings.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: herpes on December 16, 2007, 10:27:17 AM
I'm calling it right now.... the black Ryan Leaf.

yeah i can kinda see that happening. that or an eli manning....doesn't live up to the hype.

naw, theres no evidence to suggest he would be anywhere NEAR the bust that Ryan Leaf was. Even Manning for that matter. At the same time though, theres no comparison between Manning and Ryan Leaf. Manning hasnt lived up to the hype yet....but Leaf had a serious mental problem lol. A mental problem paired with the frustration of needing to be the savior on an organization that wasnt committed to winning. Its all a matter of what Al Davis surrounds this kid with. Dont expect him to save the organization....thats unfair if he isnt given the tools to succeed. I like what Kiffin is doing so far with the running game...they should keep focusing on that even when Russell takes over. Thatll take the pressure off him bigtime and allow him to go down the field with the ball which is what Im sure Al is hoping for. Id love to see another deep threat at wide out though for us.

Russel had a nice college career but got most of his hype off of one huge bowl game.  Just like Ryan Leaf.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Tay on December 16, 2007, 12:07:57 PM
ill be in the club come sunday. section 213 wit the special wristband dem $148 tickets. loud on defense shut the fuck up on offense ya bitch. it was the oakland raiders we aint nothing but playas, diamonds glistening hoes whilsting
bitches know my name cuz it's a natural thing!!!
It looks like the Raiders might turn things around a little bit, Kiffin has them playing harder and they are committing less penalties. Interesting to see how Russell turns out, the Raiders have some good receivers so that should help.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Sparegeez on December 16, 2007, 10:34:09 PM
ill be in the club come sunday. section 213 wit the special wristband dem $148 tickets. loud on defense shut the fuck up on offense ya bitch. it was the oakland raiders we aint nothing but playas, diamonds glistening hoes whilsting

I was there, and leaving the stadium was a bitch. Took me like an hour to get to BART walking
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Tay on December 16, 2007, 11:07:40 PM
ill be in the club come sunday. section 213 wit the special wristband dem $148 tickets. loud on defense shut the fuck up on offense ya bitch. it was the oakland raiders we aint nothing but playas, diamonds glistening hoes whilsting

I was there, and leaving the stadium was a bitch. Took me like an hour to get to BART walking
That's weak..It usually takes like 5 minutes
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 19, 2007, 07:52:06 PM
I'm calling it right now.... the black Ryan Leaf.

yeah i can kinda see that happening. that or an eli manning....doesn't live up to the hype.

naw, theres no evidence to suggest he would be anywhere NEAR the bust that Ryan Leaf was. Even Manning for that matter. At the same time though, theres no comparison between Manning and Ryan Leaf. Manning hasnt lived up to the hype yet....but Leaf had a serious mental problem lol. A mental problem paired with the frustration of needing to be the savior on an organization that wasnt committed to winning. Its all a matter of what Al Davis surrounds this kid with. Dont expect him to save the organization....thats unfair if he isnt given the tools to succeed. I like what Kiffin is doing so far with the running game...they should keep focusing on that even when Russell takes over. Thatll take the pressure off him bigtime and allow him to go down the field with the ball which is what Im sure Al is hoping for. Id love to see another deep threat at wide out though for us.

Russel had a nice college career but got most of his hype off of one huge bowl game.  Just like Ryan Leaf.

that doesnt make the two players the same though. Ryan Leaf was obviously a special case. He was one in a million lol. Predicting a player is going to be the next Ryan Leaf ( biggest bust ever maybe ) is just as crazy as predicting the next Michael Jordan. Just in the opposite direction. Again, he's a young QB with a huge arm and a big upside. It all depends on who he is surrounded with...and if the Raiders committ themselves to winning with him at QB.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Bay Area Jat on December 20, 2007, 06:08:51 PM
Ryan Leaf>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Smith
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Sparegeez on December 20, 2007, 10:24:38 PM
Ryan Leaf>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Smith

 ::)
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on December 21, 2007, 03:26:22 AM
Ryan Leaf>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Smith

 ::)
word..hes not that bad but he aint that good either but....smith>jay schroeder,todd marionvich,Jeff Hostetler,kerry collins,jeff george,aaron brooks,Andrew Walter...you get the picture...
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: M Dogg™ on December 21, 2007, 09:32:45 AM
(http://www.maxwellfootballclub.org/content/awards/bell/2002/gannon_lg_web.jpg)>>>(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site181/2007/1002/20071002_071501_alex_smith_49ers_sacked_100207_200.jpg)
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: M Dogg™ on December 21, 2007, 09:36:32 AM
(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/51/fullj.45a6547088c851968684fb87d80f7b87/45a6547088c851968684fb87d80f7b87-getty-75558013jj016_denver_bronco.jpg)

will be GOAT
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 21, 2007, 12:52:37 PM
Ryan Leaf>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Smith

 ::)
word..hes not that bad but he aint that good either but....smith>jay schroeder,todd marionvich,Jeff Hostetler,kerry collins,jeff george,aaron brooks,Andrew Walter...you get the picture...

Obviously Smith isnt as bad as Ryan Leaf but Hostetler and George were both better then him. Alex Smith is still young so who knows where he'll go from here. Jeff George had one of the best arms of all time, he just never had the mindset to win in the league. Even Mike Shannahan, coach for the Broncos was quoted as saying that out of the 10 best passes he's ever seen....Jeff George probably threw about 7 of em. And he coached Elway.

btw....that long list of Raider QB's that you say are worse then Alex Smith only pushes Tim Browns talents that much closer, or even beyond Jerry Rice's.

I would have to say,
Joe Montana/ Steve Young > Jay Shroeder, Todd Marrinovich, Jeff Hostetler, Kerry Collins....etc....etc
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Sparegeez on December 21, 2007, 03:17:03 PM
(http://www.maxwellfootballclub.org/content/awards/bell/2002/gannon_lg_web.jpg)>>>(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site181/2007/1002/20071002_071501_alex_smith_49ers_sacked_100207_200.jpg)

LOL please don't start talking about how Raider quarterbacks from the past were better than Niner quarterbacks from the past.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on December 21, 2007, 06:20:41 PM
Ryan Leaf>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Smith

 ::)
word..hes not that bad but he aint that good either but....smith>jay schroeder,todd marionvich,Jeff Hostetler,kerry collins,jeff george,aaron brooks,Andrew Walter...you get the picture...

Obviously Smith isnt as bad as Ryan Leaf but Hostetler and George were both better then him. Alex Smith is still young so who knows where he'll go from here. Jeff George had one of the best arms of all time, he just never had the mindset to win in the league. Even Mike Shannahan, coach for the Broncos was quoted as saying that out of the 10 best passes he's ever seen....Jeff George probably threw about 7 of em. And he coached Elway.

btw....that long list of Raider QB's that you say are worse then Alex Smith only pushes Tim Browns talents that much closer, or even beyond Jerry Rice's.

I would have to say,
Joe Montana/ Steve Young > Jay Shroeder, Todd Marrinovich, Jeff Hostetler, Kerry Collins....etc....etc
george def had the arm,he just lacked everything else...nobody questioned Timmys talent,one of the best all-time..gannon(a young one) is the only raider qb id take over smith at this point. honestly if im the sf front office i give alex one more year and im shopping for a new qb.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Tay on December 21, 2007, 06:56:52 PM
^^Yeah, they need to start looking for a QB this offseason, that way if Smith fails we have a backup plan ready. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick, because it is tough to find a QB in free agency or trades. The only ones I know who might be out there are Derek Anderson or McNabb.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 22, 2007, 07:55:19 AM
If Norv Turner was still OC in San Fran, Smith would be much better off.  Hell the whole offense would be.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 22, 2007, 02:38:21 PM
raiders will rue the day for not taking calvin johnson
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: M Dogg™ on December 22, 2007, 08:42:32 PM
(http://www.maxwellfootballclub.org/content/awards/bell/2002/gannon_lg_web.jpg)>>>(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site181/2007/1002/20071002_071501_alex_smith_49ers_sacked_100207_200.jpg)

LOL please don't start talking about how Raider quarterbacks from the past were better than Niner quarterbacks from the past.

I wouldn't touch Montana, because I agree his GOAT at this moment... but still, I'll say this...

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AACV019~Jim-Plunkett-Posters.jpg)>>>>>>(http://www.rogaland-f.kommune.no/~dalane/2002-2003/steveyoungmain.jpg)


As for now... JaMonster will have a better career than Alex Smith... even if Smith had Turner.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on December 23, 2007, 12:58:03 AM
lmao......young>anyone that ever wore silver and black
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: M Dogg™ on December 23, 2007, 07:39:04 AM
lmao......young>anyone that ever wore silver and black

Jim Plunkett, 2 rings that he started for, Steve Young, 1. Case close.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on December 23, 2007, 06:22:27 PM
lmao......young>anyone that ever wore silver and black

Jim Plunkett, 2 rings that he started for, Steve Young, 1. Case close.
young is easily a top 10 qb all time.....so by your standards....trent dilfer-1 ring, dan marino-0=dilfer»marino?? .....lol



Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Lunatic on December 23, 2007, 06:23:10 PM
DAMN did JaMarcus look bad today :o
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on December 23, 2007, 06:27:17 PM
DAMN did JaMarcus look bad today :o
at least they played him though....taylor was a beast
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Lunatic on December 23, 2007, 06:28:40 PM
^very true.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 24, 2007, 12:40:08 PM
Can we please see JaMarcus Russell in action? You know that #1 pick that signed a record contract with the team? I'm talking about him.

wish granted.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: "THE" MoSav on December 25, 2007, 01:58:34 PM
I know they were playing a tough Jags defense but still, he looked AWFUl and he proved why Lane doenst feel comfortable with him..
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Tay on December 27, 2007, 10:41:29 PM
He looked bad, but the Jags are tough, Fargas was out, and they aren't playing at full speed. His biggest problem right now is that he is so far behind, he didn't play in preseason, he left college a year early, and he has had limited reps with the offense. It's not like a running back or wide receiver where you just have to learn what you are doing, get the ball and do what you always do. A QB has to know everything, and have all the timing and rhythm down. Hopefully he develops good and the Raiders become a good team, it's boring to hate on them when they are so bad :laugh:.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on December 28, 2007, 07:06:03 PM
lmao......young>anyone that ever wore silver and black

Jim Plunkett, 2 rings that he started for, Steve Young, 1. Case close.
young is easily a top 10 qb all time.....so by your standards....trent dilfer-1 ring, dan marino-0=dilfer»marino?? .....lol





youre assuming Plunkett is Dilfer and Young is Marino tho. Marino was obviously better then Young, and Dilfer is nowhere near Plunkett. We're not comparing two QBs that are at opposite ends of the spectrum so rings are relevent. Especially when Young played with some great teams.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Sparegeez on December 28, 2007, 07:21:02 PM
(http://www.maxwellfootballclub.org/content/awards/bell/2002/gannon_lg_web.jpg)>>>(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site181/2007/1002/20071002_071501_alex_smith_49ers_sacked_100207_200.jpg)

LOL please don't start talking about how Raider quarterbacks from the past were better than Niner quarterbacks from the past.

I wouldn't touch Montana, because I agree his GOAT at this moment... but still, I'll say this...

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AACV019~Jim-Plunkett-Posters.jpg)>>>>>>(http://www.rogaland-f.kommune.no/~dalane/2002-2003/steveyoungmain.jpg)


As for now... JaMonster will have a better career than Alex Smith... even if Smith had Turner.

LOL, stupid ass Raider fan. You're stating that a player that is looking outside the hall of fame is better than a hall of famer.

Plunkett's TD-INT ratio:164-198. Young's is 232-107.
Plunkett's QB career QB rating 67.5. Young's is 96.8
Steve Young also has two MVP to Plunkett's 0.

You are officially a DUMBFUCK.
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on December 28, 2007, 07:56:33 PM
(http://www.maxwellfootballclub.org/content/awards/bell/2002/gannon_lg_web.jpg)>>>(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site181/2007/1002/20071002_071501_alex_smith_49ers_sacked_100207_200.jpg)

LOL please don't start talking about how Raider quarterbacks from the past were better than Niner quarterbacks from the past.

I wouldn't touch Montana, because I agree his GOAT at this moment... but still, I'll say this...

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AACV019~Jim-Plunkett-Posters.jpg)>>>>>>(http://www.rogaland-f.kommune.no/~dalane/2002-2003/steveyoungmain.jpg)


As for now... JaMonster will have a better career than Alex Smith... even if Smith had Turner.

LOL, stupid ass Raider fan. You're stating that a player that is looking outside the hall of fame is better than a hall of famer.

Plunkett's TD-INT ratio:164-198. Young's is 232-107.
Plunkett's QB career QB rating 67.5. Young's is 96.8
Steve Young also has two MVP to Plunkett's 0.

You are officially a DUMBFUCK.
game over
Title: Re: Since the Raiders have nothing to play for
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 30, 2007, 01:19:53 PM
Russell's first start and what does he do on his first play? Gets picked off by a linemen. I see a bright future for him. :P