West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: SABLIMINAL on June 27, 2001, 07:23:12 AM
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I"VE BEEN TO A FORUM.....WHERE MOST OF THE PEOPLE SAY...AND AGREE THAT...FANZ R NOT SUPOSED TO BUY PACZ UNRELEASED SHIT
ILL QUOTE:
"....BECAUZE ITZ LIKE TAKIN ALL THE "GARBAGE"
PAC DIDNT WANT FANZ TO SEE.....AND TRY TO SELL IT JUST TO GET DOE......"
I DONT KNOW BOUT YOU.....BUT FOR ME IT KINDA MADE SENCE.....(I EVEN CONSIDERED TO BRAKE MY
POTHUMOUS PAC CDZ..LOL LOL...ECSEPT FOR MAKAVELI...CAUZE IT WAZ STILL PACZ LAST WORDS)
BUT IT REALY MAKEZ SENCE......AS
A PAC FAN IM LOVIN EVERY LIL SHIT DAT IZ POSTHUMOSLY RELEASED...BY PAC.......
BUT THERE IZ A REASON WHY IT WAZNT RELEASED BEFO ....AND DATZ CAUZE PAC THOUGHT DAT IT WAZ MUCH LESS THAN HIZ FANZ DISERVED.
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I would say dont buy the posthumous albums because his mom has fucked them up.
If youve heard the original versions of those songs on the bootlegs youll know what i mean. those were some raw uncut shit, showing all sides of Pac's complex nature.
Now Afeni has remixed the tracks, put in bullshit R&B hooks etc which has watered down the message and made the songs commercial so she can get paid.
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Man fuck that!!!!! 2pac is gone. And he isn't ever coming back. And I miss that muthafucker alot and his music means alot to me, and has helped me through alot of hard times. Their is classic material on those posthumous albums. Shit nobody even pays attention to really. Tracks like "16 on Death Row" on the "R U Still Down" album. Listen closely. I think the world needs his music, and we should look at it as a blessing that he worked so hard to leave enough material for us to get by with in his absence. Rest In Peace, Pac.
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8) i think thaz true, but then again, I would still get all his last words scraps, even his grabage, I mean, like as a pac fan, yous alwayz fiending for mo'
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Sonner or later all his shit would've been relesaed, otherwise why would he record it?...Maybe just the beats would be different, but everything would've been released if he was alive...
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And how can you say Pac didn't want people to hear all this posthumous music? He predicted his death, and knew he was going to die an early one, so maybe that's why he recorded so much why he was alive.
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I hate that the song most people associate with Pac is Changes.....
A song that wasn't put together by Pac, that Pac had no input into the creative direction of the song
IMO I would like Tupac songs to stop being released
But that'll never happen!
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The world needs Pac.
And Changes was his message, but there it could turned into a weird-ass song.
His posthumous stuff can still be as good as living shit...I mean...Lastonesleft...Breathin'...etc...
And the RnB hooks make 'em more listenable. A REAL fan will listen for the message below it.
TRTGFC was classic material...His raw poems...
UTEOT and RUSTD are cool, not as good as they may've been, but who cares?
Greatest Hits, uh, whatever.
I'll keep buying his garbage, cause his garbage is better than most people's designer labels new.
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seems you guys didnt read my post as usual.
This isnt the way Pac wanted the songs to come out, and any true Pac supporter can hear that instantly. Afeni fucked the songs up on some quick-buck shit.
I agree these shoudlve been released, but in their original format, even if a lot of them were still studio scraps. Take Pac's vision out and all youve got is some wasted Pac lyrics on some badly mixed beats.
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I agree, on UTEOT there were some watered down tracks but most were still tight as hell. Let's hope part 2 will be better cuz Suge'll definitely have more input in it (no cut out disses, more rough shit etc.). And even if it couldn't reach the level of the previous releases I'd still buy all new shit that comes out.
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Oh well, I guess I'm not a fan anymore.
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seems you guys didnt read my post as usual.
Damn, I Feel Ya On That One.
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i buy his shit no matter how it sounds...i liked UTEOT...the originals were dope too...
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And how can you say Pac didn't want people to hear all this posthumous music? He predicted his death, and knew he was going to die an early one, so maybe that's why he recorded so much why he was alive.
Yeah, that is true.... he was alwayz talkin about how he was gonna die... and how he wanted to be remembered. All these Posthumous albums are reminding people.
But like Loc said... I dont really like the way they changed his stuff around... with all tha R&B hooks n shit.. THATS WHY, I dont really buy his shit nomore.... last tupac album I got was MAKAVELI.. oh and tha Greatest Hits.....
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West Coast Veteran is right, I buy his shit no matter how it sounds.
And Criminal, if you didn't buy R U Still Down, you are really missing out. That album had better production and was far better lyrically than Until The End Of Time. Still UTEOT is my second favorite album of this year, because you can't go wrong with 2pac, dead or alive, origional or remixed, the message is still there.
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I dont have R U Still Down or UTEOT.... My homeboy had R U Still Down though and I heard it and all... I didn't like it as much as his other shit.
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Afeni didn't put the "bs hooks", you'd see that cold 187um from above the law over looked the musical aspect, the original beats sucked, majorly, compare the remix of thug in me thug in you to the original,
tupac laid stuff down to what ever beats he could get, they said that producers had to just keep giving him material, even if it sucked, so im glad they remix it,
cause the original songs sound wack, for example on end of time the song that tupac produced sucked like none other, cause pac wasn't a producer and wasn't good at producing, i wished they would have remixed the beat so i could enjoy,
Afeni did a good job,
notice all the DR artists on the album?
do you think that any of the artists actually knew pac?
like that female rapper, lil mo's song was dope, but she aint even on the row, but that made it alot tighter
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actually Pac was a dope producer...peep "Made Niggaz"..."Lost Souls"..."Staring Through My Rearview"...all produced by Pac and they are fucking TIGHT tracks!
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I NEVER SAID PACZ UNRELEASEZ IZ WACK....IT AINT MY OPINION BUT THE OPINION I READ ON ANOTHER FORUM......THE THING I SAID I AGREE WIT IZ
THAT THE UNRELEASED MATIRIAL IZ ON A LOWER QUALLITY THAN PACZ ALIVE SHIT WAZ....
ITZ PROBABLY BETTER THAN ANY SHIT DAT IZ OUT BY ANY OTHER RAPPER (AFER PAC IZ THE BEST SONG WRITER EVER) BUT IT AINT ON THAT OLD PAC LEVEL.....
AND THE DUDE WHO SAID DAT ALL THE PAC RECORDED SHIT WAZ GOIN TO BE RELEASED BY
PAC HIMSELF........YOU WRONG DUDE.....
WHEN PAC RECORDED ALL EYEZ....HE RECORDED BOUT 500 TRACKZ....AND THE ONLY ONEZ DAT WERE RELEASED R THE 27 DAT R ON "ALL EYEZ".....
THE REASON PAC RELEASED OMLY THESE...IZ CAUZE THESE R DA BEST....
RAPPAZ AINT RECORDIN ALL THEIR SHIT TO BE RELEASED.....EVEN DRE HAD A FEW HUNDREDZ ON TRACKZ DON WHEN HE MADE "DRE 2001"....
AND THE STUFF YOU SAID BOUT PAC KNOWIN HE WAZ GONNA DIE.....WITCH IZ ALSO A THEORY.....
HE WOULD RECORD THOSE KNOWIN OR NOT KNWOIN HE WAZ GONNA DIE...THIZ IZ DA WAY RAPPAZ MAKE ALBUMZ...AND DATZ ALL.....
BUT WE STILL DON KNOW IF PAC WOULD LIKE HIZ FANZ TO HERE ALL THESE UNRELEASED MATIRIAL
WITCH WAZ UNRELEASED FOR A GOOD REASON PROBABLY.