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West in Kobe's corner
Former Lakers boss loves Garnett's game, but he'd take his guy (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2007/12/30/west_in_kobes_corner/?page=1)
By Shira Springer
Globe Staff / December 30, 2007
Forgive Jerry West for being biased. The man who brought Kobe Bryant to the Los Angeles Lakers recently called the high-scoring, high-maintenance guard the best player in the NBA. West made his preference clear with all due respect to Kevin Garnett, though the Hollywood logic behind his choice will likely spark debate in advance of tonight's Celtics-Lakers game at the Staples Center.
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"Garnett is very good, but if he had the pressure on him to score like Kobe does every night, there's a difference," said West. "Kevin is going to be a great, great player every night in all facets of the game.
"But the other one has a little bit different kind of cachet to him. You're going to pay to see Kevin Garnett play, but you're just going to see a tremendously good basketball player.
"The degree of excitement with Kobe Bryant is like going to an action movie instead of seeing a great film. Kevin Garnett would be in a great film and Kobe Bryant would be the action-hero figure. He's going to supply the jumps off the tops of bridges, dunks, going through 10 people, driving to make a layup.
"Kevin Garnett is just going to be the steady, steady, steady guy there every night. But I think from an all-around standpoint, Kobe is the best."
Considering that Bryant and Garnett play different positions with dramatically different supporting casts, West may have the comparison in the right context. Bryant, a shooting guard, struggled earlier this season to stay patient with the young, developing players around him. Garnett, a power forward, enjoys the company of two other veteran All-Stars in Paul Pierce and Ray Allen.
With Pierce and Allen helping the Celtics to the best record in the NBA, Garnett has become the top vote-getter in All-Star balloting (1,186,690 as of Friday). Bryant leads the Western Conference (941,716).
Asked if he would choose an action hero like Bryant over a steady player like Garnett all the time, West said, "That is if you have good players with him. And [the Lakers] have some pretty darn good players. They have a good young team, and they're going to get better. With me, it all depends on what market you're in. Kobe Bryant would be hard not to want to have on your team.
"I love Kevin Garnett as a player. As you move along in your life, you learn to appreciate different things. I saw the incredible skill of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. I saw incredible skill in Magic Johnson. But Magic Johnson was the action hero, and Abdul-Jabbar was your serious actor. They played on one team, and that was pretty fun to watch. You didn't even know Abdul-Jabbar was out there at times, but they never won a championship after he left.
"Boston's never had a player like [Bryant]. They've had Kevin Garnett types. Larry Bird. Bill Russell. Very serious players who were incredible players. But when you bring someone like [Bryant] into a building, you might see him do anything."
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Prior to the arrival of Garnett, the prospect of Bryant leaving LA for less glitzy Boston presented an intriguing possibility. Whenever reports of irreconcilable differences between Bryant and the Lakers surfaced, Celtics supporters wondered "what if?" What if one of the NBA's most exciting players switched sides in one of the NBA's most storied rivalries? But to hear West tell it, Bryant fits perfectly in Los Angeles, if not always with its marquee franchise. Enjoying retirement in the LA area, West follows all the NBA drama, including that involving the player he presciently acquired fresh from high school shortly after the 1996 draft, and the Lakers, the team he led to seven NBA championships as a player and executive. He said Bryant was "in many respects misunderstood" because "he expects everyone to be as competitive as him, as good as him."
For financial reasons above all else, West believes Bryant will remain with the Lakers, though the season started with the guard seemingly headed elsewhere. During last season's playoffs, Bryant told reporters he wanted West back in the Lakers' front office or he would request a trade. With Bryant still dissatisfied about the direction of the Lakers, a deal appeared likely. The Chicago Bulls surfaced as the most serious candidate. But Bryant has a no-trade clause and almost $90 million remaining on his contract.
"He's not going to be traded, period," said West. "Somebody's made a bigger story out of it than it is. Whoever would want him, they would have to decimate a franchise to get him.
"You'd have to take four or five players. So, it would be a very complex deal to start with, unless you had somebody in there making so much money that it was a joke to acquire a player like [Bryant]. But I just don't see that happening, period.
"Los Angeles is a star-driven market out here. It always has been. The fans are used to seeing someone who plays the game at his level and, more importantly, plays it with a flair."
After 40 years with the Lakers as a player, coach, and executive, West has earned the right to view the NBA through purple-and-gold-tinted glasses. He predicted the Lakers will be a very good team by the end of the year because he likes their younger players and finds their role players more complementary to Bryant than in the past.
Still, West acknowledged the impact Garnett has made with the Celtics and commented that he is happy for them. But do the Celtics have what it takes to win a championship?
"I wouldn't even want to venture into that," said West. "One injury to the best of teams [changes the odds]. I don't care who it is. You take the best player off the best team and they can forget it."
As Lakers fans know all too well, sometimes it doesn't take an injury to sidetrack a team. Just an unhappy action hero.
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Mr. NBA is michael jordan btw, always will be too.
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You know that wonderful NBA logo? That's Jerry West.... He was Mr. NBA when Michael was swimming around in his daddy's nutsack.
As for Mr. Pierce, he did get past the 2nd round of the playoffs 1 time, so I'll give that special consideration.
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You know that wonderful NBA logo? That's Jerry West.... He was Mr. NBA when Michael was swimming around in his daddy's nutsack.
As for Mr. Pierce, he did get past the 2nd round of the playoffs 1 time, so I'll give that special consideration.
LOL
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Pressure? Paul Pierce? LMAO.
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Mr. NBA is michael jordan btw, always will be too.
Umm... you don't think before you write huh? When he says "Mr. NBA" he's right... if you know anything about the NBA then you would know that the NBA logo is a silhouete of none other than Jerry West, not Michael Jordan... your a hater... and your a Celtic fan so it all makes sense. Boston is playing well but it's still early... Lakers don't have their full squad so let's just wait and see what happens... don't get all excited yet... i know the Red Sox won it and the Patriots cheated their way to a undefeated season but it's still early... Push your chest back in...
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Mr. NBA is michael jordan btw, always will be too.
Kobe is great at playing ball. But when you watch Jordan on the court, it's the closest thing you can get next to God himself playing ball. MJ is and always will be the Maufuckin greatest, he's solidified his spot as Basketball's greatest player EVER. Kobe on the other hand will never be Jordan.
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Mr. NBA is michael jordan btw, always will be too.
Umm... you don't think before you write huh? When he says "Mr. NBA" he's right... if you know anything about the NBA then you would know that the NBA logo is a silhouete of none other than Jerry West, not Michael Jordan... your a hater... and your a Celtic fan so it all makes sense. Boston is playing well but it's still early... Lakers don't have their full squad so let's just wait and see what happens... don't get all excited yet... i know the Red Sox won it and the Patriots cheated their way to a undefeated season but it's still early... Push your chest back in...
when i think NBA, i still think michael jordon. not jerry west lol.
im not even a RS or PAtriot fan. how does my dick taste flacco? salty?
i'll put some whip cream on it if you want.
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Pressure? Paul Pierce? LMAO.
lmao at what? ::)
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Mr. NBA is michael jordan btw, always will be too.
Kobe is great at playing ball. But when you watch Jordan on the court, it's the closest thing you can get next to God himself playing ball. MJ is and always will be the Maufuckin greatest, he's solidified his spot as Basketball's greatest player EVER. Kobe on the other hand will never be Jordan.
God once scored 81 in a game.
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Pressure? Paul Pierce? LMAO.
lmao at what? ::)
...at Paul Pierce and pressure in the same sentence.
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Mr. NBA is michael jordan btw, always will be too.
Kobe is great at playing ball. But when you watch Jordan on the court, it's the closest thing you can get next to God himself playing ball. MJ is and always will be the Maufuckin greatest, he's solidified his spot as Basketball's greatest player EVER. Kobe on the other hand will never be Jordan.
God once scored 81 in a game.
The real God won 6 championships, 2 sets of 3.
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Mr. NBA is michael jordan btw, always will be too.
Kobe is great at playing ball. But when you watch Jordan on the court, it's the closest thing you can get next to God himself playing ball. MJ is and always will be the Maufuckin greatest, he's solidified his spot as Basketball's greatest player EVER. Kobe on the other hand will never be Jordan.
God once scored 81 in a game.
The real God won 6 championships, 2 sets of 3.
Steve Kerr?
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Pressure? Paul Pierce? LMAO.
lmao at what? ::)
...at Paul Pierce and pressure in the same sentence.
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Pressure? Paul Pierce? LMAO.
lmao at what? ::)
...at Paul Pierce and pressure in the same sentence.
he's played in the playoffs and had to be the teams star
plays in Boston, home of the best franchise in NBA history
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Pressure? Paul Pierce? LMAO.
lmao at what? ::)
...at Paul Pierce and pressure in the same sentence.
he's played in the playoffs and had to be the teams star
plays in Boston, home of the best franchise in NBA history
Celtics=Bill Rusell, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce
Lakers=Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kobe Bryant
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He's right as always... that's why he's Mr. NBA. Kobe is the best under pressure and proven to be clutch. The 3 over in Boston are excellent players but they have always choked under pressure.
Paul Peirce doesn't choke under pressure
Pressure? Paul Pierce? LMAO.
lmao at what? ::)
...at Paul Pierce and pressure in the same sentence.
he's played in the playoffs and had to be the teams star
plays in Boston, home of the best franchise in NBA history
Celtics=Bill Rusell, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce
Lakers=Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kobe Bryant
and Bill Russel owned Wilt so damn bad over the span of an entire decade that it shows how dominant the Celtics best player was over the Lakers best
Bob Cousy? Dave Cowens? He made 7 straight allstar games.
and you'll be add Kevin Garnett to that pretty soon because he's probably in Boston for the rest of his career.
if Wilt spending 4 years and 12 games as a Laker counts then Garnett finshing his career in Boston will count.
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I just named some of the bigger stars that represented both franchises...It's obvious that the Laker list is wayyyyy better. Not even the biggest Celtic fan would question this. I didn't even name Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, George Mikan, James Worthy, Shaquille O'Neal, etc. Lakers>>>>>Celtics- all day, every day.
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I just named some of the bigger stars that represented both franchises...It's obvious that the Laker list is wayyyyy better. Not even the biggest Celtic fan would question this. I didn't even name Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, George Mikan, James Worthy, Shaquille O'Neal, etc. Lakers>>>>>Celtics- all day, every day.
well tell that to the team with more championships, all star appearances and more MVP's.
and now that we got KG we gonna extend our lead
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I just named some of the bigger stars that represented both franchises...It's obvious that the Laker list is wayyyyy better. Not even the biggest Celtic fan would question this. I didn't even name Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, George Mikan, James Worthy, Shaquille O'Neal, etc. Lakers>>>>>Celtics- all day, every day.
well tell that to the team with more championships, all star appearances and more MVP's.
and now that we got KG we gonna extend our lead
Laker NBA Final MVPs=10
Celtic NBA Final MVPs=5
Laker All-NBA appearances=53
Celtic All-NBA appearances=35
...and despite having that dominant decade with Bill Russell, you guys STILL only have 1 more ring than us. Face it, Lakers are just a way more honored franchise. Look at some of the jerseys you guys have retired. Some of those players didn't even make an all-star squad!...LOL. On the inside, you KNOW the truth.
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I just named some of the bigger stars that represented both franchises...It's obvious that the Laker list is wayyyyy better. Not even the biggest Celtic fan would question this. I didn't even name Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, George Mikan, James Worthy, Shaquille O'Neal, etc. Lakers>>>>>Celtics- all day, every day.
well tell that to the team with more championships, all star appearances and more MVP's.
and now that we got KG we gonna extend our lead
Laker NBA Final MVPs=10
Celtic NBA Final MVPs=5
Laker All-NBA appearances=53
Celtic All-NBA appearances=35
...and despite having that dominant decade with Bill Russell, you guys STILL only have 1 more ring than us. Face it, Lakers are just a way more honored franchise. Look at some of the jerseys you guys have retired. Some of those players didn't even make an all-star squad!...LOL. On the inside, you KNOW the truth.
blah blah blah blah blah
we've got more rings and until the day that changes i aint admitting shit.
and you have more finals mvps eh? congrats, WE GOT MORE FINALS VICTORIES lol
we will forever agree to disagree.
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and you have more finals mvps eh? congrats, WE GOT MORE FINALS VICTORIES lol
wrong, again.
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and you have more finals mvps eh? congrats, WE GOT MORE FINALS VICTORIES lol
wrong, again.
NBA finals? 16?
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and you have more finals mvps eh? congrats, WE GOT MORE FINALS VICTORIES lol
wrong, again.
NBA finals? 16?
Thought you meant Finals GAMES...which the Lakers have won more of, as well.