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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Hatesrats™ on January 23, 2008, 09:35:41 PM
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Life Suck's..
Howard over O'Neal almost sound's like Blasphamy, but it's true.
Superman gonna be out prob past the All-Star break.
As a Laker fan, Fuck it, A Shaq fan in general I'm Hurt bro.
Best center since Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Fuck your Comparisons...
(I'm on some Trauma Shit bro... No Need to Compare or your input bro, this is FACT.)
My Heart Goes out to the face And Only reason The league Survived the Post Jordan era.
get better Shaq.
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this is the reason I said it was ok for the Lakers to trade Shaq. I am a huge Shaq fan, I never owed a Kobe jersey (until Shaq was traded then I got a white one), I had my Shaq jersey, change the uniform, get another Shaq jersey. In 2004, when Shaq was traded, I was very silent here, I was heartbroken, but I understood what the franchise was doing. In the trade, we got Odom and Butler, and Grant. Had the Lakers kept Butler, then it would have been seen as the greatest long term trade the Lakers could have done. (though Brown is needed for this season.) The sad part was Shaq said he was never going to be the player to hang on too long, and ruin his legacy, and his hunger for one more title is doing that. It's time for Shaq to retire, and hang it up. Since 2004, it has been sad for me to see Shaq, I was happy in 2005 when they won that title, but it slowly got worst, and now it's just bad. I still want to see Shaq finish the season, and at the end tell the world that yes it's been fun and ride off in the sunset.
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+1 MDogg..
You Know what's Up
Shaq Appreciation Thread..
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everyone knows shaq is my all time favorite player , but i think it's time to hang it up. he's got bigger fish to fry outside of the league now. he's done everything . all star games, championships, mvp's, millions of dallars , ect. the only thing left is the Hall of FAme. Hang it up shaq. no needd to hurt your body any more.
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Yeah he should of retired after wining the championship...My alltime favorite player as well
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this is the reason I said it was ok for the Lakers to trade Shaq
I understood what the franchise was doing
It's time for Shaq to retire, and hang it up.
well as long as he's owed $20 million over what, next 3 seasons? I don't think he's gonna retire
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Yeah he should of retired after wining the championship...My alltime favorite player as well
why retire when they offer you $100 million dollars
you guys aren't thinking rationally
also, to Hatesrats.... life sucks? don't feel bad for Shaq, he's got infinite money and 4 championship rings.... shit happens
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How can you be a Laker fan all these years and spell his name "O'neil"? LOL...too many bleezys, homie. 8)
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lol some here have trouble to spell B-Ball players names .. the day Hack Wilson will pronounce a name correctly I may win at the lottery . Peirce , Stoudimire WTF lol
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Hes at the age right now where most of the great centers have fell off. Look at all the great centers in the last 25 years, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson etc....they all seem to go downhill around 34 years old. They were showing the stat the other day, it made me feel better for Shaq....but ya I miss the days when Shaq was dominating inside and was more mobile. Im still a fan of his tho, and always will be.
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Shaq never had a work ethic .. never work on his free throws , gain weight during off seasons, prefer to have surgery during the regular season to spend great holidays ect ... imagine how he could have been even better if he would had care ... he had the potential to average 40 and 15 a sesaon during his prime , dude was just unstoppable , way too powerful .. he had a great carreer but I think he could have retired with like 10 titles not 4 ..
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I've already criticized him enought, in this forum. This is an appreciation thread, so i'mma say thank you to Shaq cause he was been the main reason behind Lakers returning competitive. There's no need to talk more about his recent injuries, his bad shape, his stats. He's gone.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/sUE_0LRxtpU&rel=1
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Yeah he should of retired after wining the championship...My alltime favorite player as well
why retire when they offer you $100 million dollars
you guys aren't thinking rationally
also, to Hatesrats.... life sucks? don't feel bad for Shaq, he's got infinite money and 4 championship rings.... shit happens
i totaly agree with you , why leave that money on the table, i was more talking as a player legacy standpoint.
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Life Suck's..
Howard over O'neail almost sound's like Blasphamy, but it's true.
Superman gonna be out prob past the All-Star break.
As a Laker fan, Fuck it, A Shaq fan in general I'm Hurt bro.
Best center since Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Fuck your Comparisons...
(I'm on some Trauma Shit bro... No Need to Compare or your input bro, this is FACT.)
My Heart Goes out to the face And Only reason The league Survived the Post Jordan era.
get better Shaq.
hakeem > shaq ;)
and besides, the NBA hasn't been premier SINCE those Jordan days
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How can you be a Laker fan all these years and spell his name "O'neil"? LOL...too many bleezys, homie. 8)
;D
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shaq in his prime, imo= GOAT center of all time.
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shaq in his prime, imo= GOAT center of all time.
its easy to say he was one of the most "dominant", but thats because the NBA over the last 5-8 years has had a shortage on quality centers
the 1990s had Hakeem the dream, Ewing, Robinson, Shaq, Alonzo, Mutumbo
the 2000's have had Shaq, Yao, Howard, Dampier?
ofcourse we're seeing alot of great forwards these days (Duncan, Garnett, Bosh, Stoudimire)
Shaq didn't have anyone worthy of being a rival in his prime, but he got schooled by Hakeem ;)
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Hes at the age right now where most of the great centers have fell off. Look at all the great centers in the last 25 years, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson etc....they all seem to go downhill around 34 years old. They were showing the stat the other day, it made me feel better for Shaq....but ya I miss the days when Shaq was dominating inside and was more mobile. Im still a fan of his tho, and always will be.
Nobodies decline was as rapid and terrible as Shaq's...Kareem was the perfect example of how a big who keeps himself in shape should decline.
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shaq was never a finese center though... kareem was always a finese thin man. he wasn't beating anyone down low with his power. shaq along with every other power player , have quick declines due to the physical punishment they take, like a football player. but you can't say shaq had a quick decline had had a good decade plus of dominance.
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Shaq in his prime was the most frustrating thing I ever experienced in sports. He was so dominant, it was like watching Dwight Howard on speed playing against 14-year-old girls. Just because he fell off harder and faster than other players people act as if he had a lesser prime than he actually had. When another player dominates, like Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, Wade... whoever has a great day, it's like you can still enjoy watching it as long as it's not against your favorite team. With Shaq in his prime, I hated it. I wasn't a hater or something, but it was just too extreme, it was ridiculous.
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shaq was never a finese center though... kareem was always a finese thin man. he wasn't beating anyone down low with his power. shaq along with every other power player , have quick declines due to the physical punishment they take, like a football player. but you can't say shaq had a quick decline had had a good decade plus of dominance.
shaq's decline took a longass time
his peak started in 98 or 99 and it didnt end til last year.
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shaq was never a finese center though... kareem was always a finese thin man. he wasn't beating anyone down low with his power. shaq along with every other power player , have quick declines due to the physical punishment they take, like a football player. but you can't say shaq had a quick decline had had a good decade plus of dominance.
Doesn't matter, Shaq's decline was already noticeable at around 29, mostly because of the way he didn't keep himself conditioned and in shape. This is undeniable. He dominated for 3-4 years, when it shoulda' been 9-10 years...PeACe
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shaq was never a finese center though... kareem was always a finese thin man. he wasn't beating anyone down low with his power. shaq along with every other power player , have quick declines due to the physical punishment they take, like a football player. but you can't say shaq had a quick decline had had a good decade plus of dominance.
shaq's decline took a longass time
his peak started in 98 or 99 and it didnt end til last year.
LMFAO!
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lol @ some of these Laker fans still crying that Shaq needed to do more situps. Shaq was no finesse type of center, he was a dominating big man that no one could handle, shit 2 or 3 dudes couldn't handle at times. He reached the finals w/ 3 different teams, won championships w/ 2, MVP's, shit the list goes on.
I'm laughing at you dudes thinking that if Shaq did some more squat thrusts he wouldn't be falling off like this. Look at every fucking big to play the game - Shaq is NO different. A guy of his size is going to have all kinds of wear and tear w/ that big of frame and that physical style of play. Yall are just ass hurt about him to this day and refuse to acknowledge it.
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lol @ some of these Laker fans still crying that Shaq needed to do more situps. Shaq was no finesse type of center, he was a dominating big man that no one could handle, shit 2 or 3 dudes couldn't handle at times. He reached the finals w/ 3 different teams, won championships w/ 2, MVP's, shit the list goes on.
I'm laughing at you dudes thinking that if Shaq did some more squat thrusts he wouldn't be falling off like this. Look at every fucking big to play the game - Shaq is NO different. A guy of his size is going to have all kinds of wear and tear w/ that big of frame and that physical style of play. Yall are just ass hurt about him to this day and refuse to acknowledge it.
LMAO@Shaq is no different...Shaq peaked for 3-4 years because he hated conditioning and keeping an NBA diet, instead of peaking for 9-10 years, like most great bigs to play the game. This is not up for debate...dude already started showing up fat and out of shape to training camps when he was 28, 29...not too bright if you want 9 or 10 rings like Shaq claimed. Bottom line, he coulda been the undisputed greatest big to ever play the game if it wasn't for his lack of work ethic...PeACe
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lol @ some of these Laker fans still crying that Shaq needed to do more situps. Shaq was no finesse type of center, he was a dominating big man that no one could handle, shit 2 or 3 dudes couldn't handle at times. He reached the finals w/ 3 different teams, won championships w/ 2, MVP's, shit the list goes on.
I'm laughing at you dudes thinking that if Shaq did some more squat thrusts he wouldn't be falling off like this. Look at every fucking big to play the game - Shaq is NO different. A guy of his size is going to have all kinds of wear and tear w/ that big of frame and that physical style of play. Yall are just ass hurt about him to this day and refuse to acknowledge it.
LMAO@Shaq is no different...Shaq peaked for 3-4 years because he hated conditioning and keeping an NBA diet, instead of peaking for 9-10 years, like most great bigs to play the game. This is not up for debate...dude already started showing up fat and out of shape to training camps when he was 28, 29...not too bright if you want 9 or 10 rings like Shaq claimed. Bottom line, he coulda been the undisputed greatest big to ever play the game if it wasn't for his lack of work ethic...PeACe
He was the most dominating big of all time. The biggest reason for that was his huge frame and an immovable force in the post. He's not like a Kobe or Jordan that can completely switch his approach to the game when he gets in his older years. Shaq's game has always been power. When you get old, you lose that power.
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for reals there has never been a player as one of a kind and dominant as shaq. dude changed the game, the nicca was huge and athletic and he dominated the nba when he was on the magic and the lakers, plus he won a title with the heat. he led the magic, lakers and heat to the finals.
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^^Ummm, Wilt Chamberlain.
Shaq was dominant for a short span. With a true work ethich, it woulda' UNQUESTIONABLY been much, much longer...Just ask Phil Jackson and anyone who worked for the Lakers during his stay there.
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A short span? Shaq was a dominant force the day he stepped into the league. He's now almost completely fallen off, but he was a hell of a problem for well over 10 years.
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shaq's best statistical season may have been his second one in ORlando
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shaq's best statistical season may have been his second one in ORlando
^ scoring wise yes, but his MVP season was his bEST
shaq was a dominant player from 92-2005, (06ish)
lol at 2-3 years of being in his prime.
shaq>>>Wilt, even wilt agreed.
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shaq's best statistical season may have been his second one in ORlando
^ scoring wise yes, but his MVP season was his bEST
shaq was a dominant player from 92-2005, (06ish)
lol at 2-3 years of being in his prime.
shaq>>>Wilt, even wilt agreed.
i respect your opinion, and its true shaq is so much bigger than wilt he woulda dominated him if he went head to head
russell > wilt > hakeem > shaq > kareem > duncan > ewing > robinson > malone
not sure if timmy belongs in there
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i see duncan more as a power forward than a center, he's an important big, but he belongs in Barkley/Mailman talks.
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It's all Opinion no matter who say's it. (I Don't Follow the He >Thing)
Shaq was/is a Great player Who I liked to watch Play.
(IF all them centers mentioned before Were Playing on the same Night, I'm Watching Shaq like a Mutha...)
When he was in LSU, Orlando, L.A. & Even in Miami.
Thru, Blue Chip's, Steel hell I ain't gonna Front I watched Kazzam!
Bumped his albums have all of His rookie cards. starting lineups played his wack Fighting game All Systems, ect..
SHAQ is The Man.
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A short span? Shaq was a dominant force the day he stepped into the league. He's now almost completely fallen off, but he was a hell of a problem for well over 10 years.
Yea...he was very dominant when he stepped in the league, when Hakeem was bitching him all day...LMAO. Please make sense. Shaq's dominant reign began and ended with the Lakers...PeACe
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shaq's best statistical season may have been his second one in ORlando
^ scoring wise yes, but his MVP season was his bEST
shaq was a dominant player from 92-2005, (06ish)
lol at 2-3 years of being in his prime.
shaq>>>Wilt, even wilt agreed.
Jake, my boy, Shaq wasn't dominant in '92, when Hakeem was schooling him. LOL. come on, now. Like I said, Shaq's dominance started and ended with the Lakers, and it didn't need to end like that.
And anyone putting Shaq above Wilt or Kareem is absurd.
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lol at 2-3 years of being in his prime.
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shaq's best statistical season may have been his second one in ORlando
^ scoring wise yes, but his MVP season was his bEST
shaq was a dominant player from 92-2005, (06ish)
lol at 2-3 years of being in his prime.
shaq>>>Wilt, even wilt agreed.
Shaq definitely had his great years but he's not fuckin with Wilt
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lol at 2-3 years of being in his prime.
I said 3-4 years, which is accurate, considering he only dominated the centerless league for 3 rings.
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Put Shaq in a time machine when Wilt played and see him averaging 100 points, 120 rebounds and 20 blocks.
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^YEA RIGGGGHHHT! LMAO
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lol at 2-3 years of being in his prime.
I said 3-4 years, which is accurate, considering he only dominated the centerless league for 3 rings.
thats the same guy who Kobe needed to win all his rings just to remind you
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lol at 2-3 years of being in his prime.
I said 3-4 years, which is accurate, considering he only dominated the centerless league for 3 rings.
thats the same guy who Kobe needed to win all his rings just to remind you
Just like Shaq needed Kobe...You're out your mind if you deny this.
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A short span? Shaq was a dominant force the day he stepped into the league. He's now almost completely fallen off, but he was a hell of a problem for well over 10 years.
Yea...he was very dominant when he stepped in the league, when Hakeem was bitching him all day...LMAO. Please make sense. Shaq's dominant reign began and ended with the Lakers...PeACe
I said he was dominant, which he was. He wasn't the best player his rookie year but he was still dominant, he averaged like 23 & 14 and was a huge impact on the league. You wish Bynum or Kobe had his stats their rookie year.
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A short span? Shaq was a dominant force the day he stepped into the league. He's now almost completely fallen off, but he was a hell of a problem for well over 10 years.
Yea...he was very dominant when he stepped in the league, when Hakeem was bitching him all day...LMAO. Please make sense. Shaq's dominant reign began and ended with the Lakers...PeACe
I said he was dominant, which he was. He wasn't the best player his rookie year but he was still dominant, he averaged like 23 & 14 and was a huge impact on the league. You wish Bynum or Kobe had his stats their rookie year.
i dont think we've ever seen a rookie come in and average 23 and 14 and then 29 and 13 the next year too.
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A short span? Shaq was a dominant force the day he stepped into the league. He's now almost completely fallen off, but he was a hell of a problem for well over 10 years.
Yea...he was very dominant when he stepped in the league, when Hakeem was bitching him all day...LMAO. Please make sense. Shaq's dominant reign began and ended with the Lakers...PeACe
I said he was dominant, which he was. He wasn't the best player his rookie year but he was still dominant, he averaged like 23 & 14 and was a huge impact on the league. You wish Bynum or Kobe had his stats their rookie year.
Do you know what dominating means? LOL. He was a star in Orlando, but his dominant reign didn't start until he got to the Lakers...PeACe
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A short span? Shaq was a dominant force the day he stepped into the league. He's now almost completely fallen off, but he was a hell of a problem for well over 10 years.
Yea...he was very dominant when he stepped in the league, when Hakeem was bitching him all day...LMAO. Please make sense. Shaq's dominant reign began and ended with the Lakers...PeACe
I said he was dominant, which he was. He wasn't the best player his rookie year but he was still dominant, he averaged like 23 & 14 and was a huge impact on the league. You wish Bynum or Kobe had his stats their rookie year.
Do you know what dominating means? LOL. He was a star in Orlando, but his dominant reign didn't start until he got to the Lakers...PeACe
LOL Do you know what dominating means? LOL Shaq was the most dominant. LOL LMAO. Shaq might have been the most dominant rookie in the modern era LOL.
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A short span? Shaq was a dominant force the day he stepped into the league. He's now almost completely fallen off, but he was a hell of a problem for well over 10 years.
Yea...he was very dominant when he stepped in the league, when Hakeem was bitching him all day...LMAO. Please make sense. Shaq's dominant reign began and ended with the Lakers...PeACe
I said he was dominant, which he was. He wasn't the best player his rookie year but he was still dominant, he averaged like 23 & 14 and was a huge impact on the league. You wish Bynum or Kobe had his stats their rookie year.
Do you know what dominating means? LOL. He was a star in Orlando, but his dominant reign didn't start until he got to the Lakers...PeACe
LOL Do you know what dominating means? LOL Shaq was the most dominant. LOL LMAO. Shaq might have been the most dominant rookie in the modern era LOL.
Yes...I know what dominating means...To dominate is to overshadow. Shaq was overshadowed by Hakeem during his stay with Orlando. That means he wasn't dominant at that time. Are you really dumb enough to deny that Shaq woulda had a much better career if he had a stronger work ethic, where he would condition, eat healthy, and keep himself in shape rather than spending his summers vacationing, eating fast food non-stop, taking time off mid-season, and avoiding spending extra time in the gym? LMAO. Put Jordan or Kobe's work ethic in Shaq's body, and he'd probably be the greatest player to ever play in any sport...PeACe