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Title: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: NobodyButMe on June 04, 2001, 04:16:57 PM
yo, have any of ya'll heard any christian hip hop? i used to have this friend that was really into it, and there was some pretty tite stuff out there. this group called cross movement, dude called prime minister, lil raskull and nuwine were all some good ones. antonious was pretty hot too. check it out on audiogalaxy or something. nuwine was on a 5th ward boyz cd with a song.......i got most of their cds, you should give it a shot if you haven't heard any of it, just download a couple songs offa audiogalaxy.com or something
later
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Jay ay Beeee (Guest) on June 04, 2001, 06:00:20 PM
There was a group here that performed in front of Prince Charles, Prince William and Prince Harry on their Christmas Day mass but I can't remember their name - I saw a documentary on them.....proddy bastards!
Safe
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Don Jacob on June 04, 2001, 08:10:27 PM
i like the message behind it but the message gets too repetitive and half of the rappers are kinda corny to me
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 04, 2001, 08:12:11 PM
Theres this hardcore Christian group called "The Gospel Gangstas" or some shit like that...
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Top-Dogg2001 on June 04, 2001, 09:32:06 PM
I don't get down with it. Its cool that they are trying to put out positive messages but the artist have no skill what so ever. They try to be hard. My radiostation plays it every sunday. Some of them sound like they steal there style from biggie and pac and just flip it to make it religious.
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 04, 2001, 10:07:54 PM
Me neither...I dont listen to that shit..
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 04, 2001, 11:24:36 PM
Check out T-Bone. He got some skill. I ain't into Christian rap either. If their was a Christian rapper with skill I would listen to them.

But seriously check T-Bone and tell me whatcha think.
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 04, 2001, 11:56:11 PM
T-Bone steaks are good...
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: NobodyButMe on June 05, 2001, 03:05:20 AM
i heard some of t-bones stuff, back in the day, he was on mtv's the cut, and krs one gave him a  7 out of 10 "cuz that's god's number" and he lost the cut cuz of krs's 7. he was real tight on that show.... on the other end though, somebody has got to pick up some cross movement songs offa audiogalaxy.com, i'm tellin you, this one guy, called tha phanatik, has got skill, a good song to get: "cypha tha next day", "house of representatives" and "i am that i am". i'll put them on my computer right now so ya'll can download them offa audiogalaxy.com or morpheus and tell me what ya think
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: infinite59 on June 05, 2001, 08:52:51 AM
It really upseted me that in this months issue of the Source they do a whole article devoted to the emergence of Christian hip-hop.  It even says, although hip-hop has been more closely associated with Islam, Christian hip-hop is on the rise.  And they do a whole article on Christian hip-hop, with only two sentences mentioning Islam.  If Islam is so popular in hip-hop, then how come we've never gotten one article in the Source that I can recall.  That just isn't fair, they're are plenty of popular Muslim artists out there.  Or artists influenced by Islam.  
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 05, 2001, 06:28:19 PM
Speakin of The Cut, KRS-1 pissed me off on that show. I remember it was down to theis one women who had the really strange but good voice and some woman with a guy. He made the woman with the wierd voice lose and let the other group won. Then supposedly gave them a contract. The woman shoulda won cause she was unique.
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 05, 2001, 08:22:27 PM
Islams I know of:
Public Enemy
Outkast
2Pac (wanted to convert before his death)

Jews I know of:
Blood of abraham (Eazy's group)
Beastie Boys
Shabakk


I'm sure theres more, I'm just forgetting...
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 05, 2001, 09:12:16 PM
Outkast are? I never knew that. Most southern peeps claim to be Christian.
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: infinite59 on June 05, 2001, 09:43:38 PM
to add to your list Now I Know
Muslim Rappers-
Rakim
Mos Def
Saffir
Soul Scientific

Those I'm sure of, these artists I think are as well-
Talib Kweli
E-swift
Xzibit was spittin alot of Islamic references in 40 Days and 40 Nights

And Now-I-Know what's with this talk about 2pac being a Muslim?
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 05, 2001, 09:46:10 PM
Yeah, Pac was gonna become Muslim. Thats why he made Blasphemy where he was questioning God. He was on some soul searching around the time he died.
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Mr_Loc on June 05, 2001, 09:52:28 PM
I thought Pac was confused/intrigued with the whole concept of religion, i never heard anything about him wanting to become a Muslim although i know he supported a lot of their ideas.

some other Muslim rappers:
Kam
MC Ren (i think, he usually puts some elijah mohammed on his albums)
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: infinite59 on June 05, 2001, 09:54:24 PM
Just because someone is soul searching, and questioning God, it doesn't make them a Muslim.  "Blasphemy" puts him much closer to an agnostic than a Muslim.  That would be great if Pac was planning on reverting to Islam, but I don't think it's the truth.  You got to come with alot better evidence than the song "Blasphemy."
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 05, 2001, 09:59:36 PM
I'm not sayin Blasphemy is 100% proof that he turned Muslim. I just heard he was soul seardhin and was thinkin of converting to Islam. I don't know for sure.

BTW, Did y'all hear About Prince's change of religion?
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: NobodyButMe on June 05, 2001, 10:12:17 PM
hey, i don't think that pac was any religion, but i do believe that he believed in jesus and the things that he stood for. i've read some of the interviews before he died and thats what he said. he believed in certain aspects of the religion of christianity, not all, but the important things.
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: cremedelaclem on June 06, 2001, 06:44:21 PM
beanie sigel is muslim...so is everlast...lol

necro is jewish
so is ill bill (necro's brother) from non phixion
and so is remedy from the wu

a lot of the wu are islamic too

and tupac was converting to islam but wouldnt give up his lifestyle...i heard him talk about it several times
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 06, 2001, 10:29:22 PM
Yea, I'm pretty sure I heard 2Pac saying he was gunna convert to Islam before his death...
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Don Jacob on June 06, 2001, 10:51:08 PM
Pac always said he was thinking about it but he said that he finds more in christianity than muslum he was soul searching.


i'm pretty sure that Outkast are Baptist...i'm not sure cuz andre use to wear that head thing but i'm pretty sure big boi is a Baptist


xzibit is NOT muslum he's got those 2 crosses around his neck and i doubt an muslum would wear those

and i heard that Wu Tang are 5%'s now what the hell is that???
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Trauma-san on June 07, 2001, 12:42:16 AM
Outkast Are From The South, So If They're Anything, It's Probably Baptist! BElieve Me, I'm Here Too...
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: infinite59 on June 07, 2001, 08:57:54 AM
I believe you that Xzibit's tattoos are evidence enough that he's Christian.  But on the track, "Focus" off 40 days and 40 nights he rhymes, "

Fast Friday straight
to meditate
and biuld hunger
and focus
on the days and times that approach us

Fridays are to us Muslims what Sundays are to Christians, and fasting is an intrical part of Islam as well, it's called for in the five pillars, and Xzibit was reffering to that when he says, "Fast Friday."



And about Wu-tang being 5%'s.  Your correct. You were asking just what a 5% is.  It's the believe that 90% of the world is ignorant, and ten percent is knowledgable or intelligent.  And of that 10%, 5% keep it to themselves, while the other 5% spread the knowledge they were blessed with.  I don't know where to get ahold of any 5 percenter books, I'm white, but still I'd like to learn more about it.
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Don Jacob on June 07, 2001, 04:40:39 PM
i'm probably off base here but...so basically 5%ers think that they are better than everyone, do they believe that christians are in the 90% and are ignorant? i'm sure that's not the case cuz muslums are usually peacful people who don't think like that...that a lil odd
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: infinite59 on June 07, 2001, 07:36:17 PM
BigJakeDogg, I don't understand what your saying.  

5%'s I don't think has anything to do with religion.  It could possibly have something to do with the Nation of Islam but I doubt it, I'm an orthadox Muslim so I wouldn't know anything about that.  5%'s is a philosophy.  I think they believe that all white people are pigs.  Like when you hear RZA spitting that shit like on Tony Touch's album where he says, "zig zag zig, we don't fuck with no pig" That some 5% shit right there.  And anyone correct me if I'm wrong.  Being a 5% doesn't have anything to do with being a Muslim or Christian, or thinking that they are better than Muslims or Christans.

I think you'd have to live in New York and go to a black bookstore to pick up some 5%'s material.  Nas, Wu-tang, AZ, I think are all down with the 5%'s movement.
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 07, 2001, 09:54:48 PM
Didn't Outkast make some references to Christianity in Aquemani?
Title: Re: Christian Hip Hop
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 07, 2001, 11:35:43 PM
No, they always talk about the Islamic family...Even in the "Stankonia" intro...