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Title: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Nosak on June 03, 2001, 08:12:55 PM
i was in a conversation with my people and ,, this subject just blow out just like that,,,  by order,, who's the best,,, everyone gave their opigion and i was like dawm,,, i don't know,, cause fo me they like on the same level.. but the one who come the most was like  1. big 2. snoop and 3. 2 pac,, they say that tupac was good but ... some shit i didn't understand... well i dunno.. maybe 1.biggie 2.2 pac 3.snoop .... they didn't talk bout jay duhh.. but it doesn't matter fo me cause i don't like jay- z that much. :-/ give me some of your opignion please so i can tell some to my people aight.. thanks ya'll
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: So Much Style on June 03, 2001, 08:17:31 PM
RIGHT NOW (Even though 2 are dead..if they were all new rappers the list would be:

1. 2pac
2. biggie
3. snoop

but overall carers goes:

1. snoop-CHronic doggystyle, he changed the game

2. 2pac- all eyez on me really did a big thing for hip hop + his before dR days were awesome too

3. only released 3 albums, only 1 1/2 albums when alive, i say this because half of Life after death was posmothus stuff or however u say it....but ready to die was Classic


thats how i see it
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Nosak on June 03, 2001, 08:19:39 PM
kool i luv how u do it,,, the right now and career overall...thanks !!
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: NobodyButMe on June 03, 2001, 08:39:05 PM
i agree with so much style, he got that right. it's really difficult to judge these guys because they all came at different points in the short history of hip hop, and it's just hard to try and make sense of it all with regards to how much hip hop has changed since they've been around
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Mr_Loc on June 03, 2001, 08:42:53 PM
2Pac and snoop are on an even level for me personally.

Snoop because he was the first hip hop artist i really listened to, his music got me into this rap shit.

but Pac, damn, Pac was just incredible. I felt most every word he said, and i could relate to him as a person too.

I recognize Biggies talent, but i never really listened to his shit much until after he died, so hes never ranked as high with me.
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Don Jacob on June 03, 2001, 08:56:39 PM
without a doubt when it comes down to overall best it's

1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Snoop (he'd be tied for 2nd or have soul possesion of 2nd if he rapped Doggystyle like his whole career


but when it comes down to catelouges and careers

1. Snoop/pac (pac sold the most records outta anyrapper and snoop's been apart of sooo many important albums
2. Big (big only released 2 albums his first was classic, but the second kinda sucked)
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Nosak on June 03, 2001, 08:58:58 PM
yesss that's how i think right now,, me too , snoop introduce me to rap.. and tupac was just like whoa.. but biggie .. i just listen some off his shit and i regonize him,,, but biggie and snoop were 2 great freestyler ...what bout pac...but fo real , i'm feeling snoop more then all cause i listen every track he been on and shits pac was the second person who make me luve hip hop!!!
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Smooth on June 03, 2001, 09:35:56 PM
yo my personal opinion has gotta be

1.Snoop
2.Pac
3.Biggie

Peace
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 03, 2001, 09:51:27 PM
2pac, Biggie, and then Snoop...
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: West Coast Veteran on June 03, 2001, 11:15:43 PM
General Consensus:
1. Pac
2. B.I.G.
3. Snoop

My Personal Choice:
1. Pac
2. Cube [Replace That Fat Commercial Rapper]
3. Snoop
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Don Jacob on June 03, 2001, 11:22:04 PM
yeah i'll agree with that, biggie was great but Cube was greater
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Smooth on June 03, 2001, 11:23:15 PM
Yup!... Cube was better hands down
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Nosak on June 03, 2001, 11:26:15 PM
well after some posts i saw that snoop dogg is well Underrated  in general....plus that tha nigga who change the game ( with dr.dre) and i think that it's only when he die that he will be regonize fo real not because he was in the 3 choices.... and fo now .. isn't he tha king off westcoast?? well i think he better then jay-z so... he better  in the rap game ,, fuck that eastcoast-westcoast shit ,,, we talkin bout game up in here... so that's why i go like smooth says!!! still my opignion
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Kingpin on June 03, 2001, 11:37:35 PM
i would say...

1-snoop
2-2pac
3-biggie

i don`t know how/why people put biggie higher then snoop or 2pac ...biggie was good but snoop and 2pac are legends, well i guess its just personal opinions
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 04, 2001, 01:07:24 AM
All depends on what your talkin about.

Lyrical-wise

Biggie
2pac
Snoop


FLow-wise

2pac
Snoop
Biggie


Album-quality

Snoop
2pac
Biggie
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: West Coast Veteran on June 04, 2001, 02:19:54 AM
i agree with the above statement but the only Snoop album which has top notch quality is Doggystyle

Pac has MATW - AEOM - 7DT

B.I.G. has RTD - LAD
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Hatesrats on June 04, 2001, 06:32:23 AM

1.2pac//
from the first time I listened to D.U. "same song" I knew I had to have the playa's shit...When 2pacalypse came out nothing in hip hop was even close to the material Pac was rapping on....think about it. New york was on some high top fade dancing shit...The west coast was Gangsta as ever, the bay was pimpin', and Pac blended the best of all worlds..Took the gangsta to a level of approach, where a female could listen to it, and not be afraid. Remember 1991, no bitch in the world would have approched Ice cube, when he wore his curl, black jacket and bitch killa cap. Pac created the thug sound/style in music. On shear material Pac can never be fucked with, he could bang out a hit in ten minutes while it would take the typical artist to write one, Pac would slam an album. Imagine: (1991-1996) 2pac will stand the test of time. Every generation has their hero's who bypass both time & novelty Jim Morrison..Jimi Hendrix..John Lennon...Marvin Gaye..Kurt Cobain...Tupac shakur.ect. (forget hip-hop legend...legend period) (2pac RIP)

2.The Notorious B.I.G.//
Biggie is number 2 period, because on a scale of followers, biggie can't be matched.
He had the entire East coast bobbing their heads like "crack-crack" to a style of music that they never heard before. (out of an east coast rapper, us in the west coast been thumping for years...) Biggie wasn't just an east coast rapper with a west coast style he was an artist who took his image and skill and revamped himself into The Notorious B.I.G. hate him or not, 1995 was the year of Biggie...Big poppa/One more chance/player's anthem/tha B side/Get money ect...fuck everywhere you go..fucken juicy was bumpin the night we lost our cherries n shit. it was the soundtrack to my personal porno film.
Besides the strong personal, Biggie was important to music. he came when an entire coast needed a savior...and he did it. Imagine: a 2pac biggie callabo album..What if. (Notorious B.I.G. RIP)

3.Big Punisher//
I don't give a fuck what anybody thinks about my opinion when it comes to Pun.
Myself being a hispanic hip hop follower since fucken just beats with robot voices to mc's flowing over sample's n shit. Big Pun was a breathe of fresh air for Latin rap period. Pun wasn't just limited to rap about La Raza, or spanish (boring "hood" stories) or mary Jane, he took it to a level that before him there was none, and after him there shall be no more..Big Pun is an example of raw muthaphukkin' talent.
His music and lyrics stand for themself...If you disagree..cop his shit, listen to his words and flow..you'll see what I mean.
Big Pun (Rip)

4.Ice cube//
Amerikkka's most wanted (tightest album ever)
Death certificate (classic cube)
brought us Da lench mob (lp was the shit!!!!) Predator ect...., he defended the honar of the entire Westside with his group W.S.C.G.
was a charter member of N.W.A. (the best posse group in hip-hop ever.(wu-tang who??) Wrote Dopeman, Fuck tha police, Boyz n tha hood....Fucken wrote directed and stared in numerous box office hit's..Preacher, teacher, fortune teller (remember that riot prediction he did in D.C.) Again the greats last forever and Ice Cube is still here, love or hate em' (tha nigga ya love ta hate) I've seen artist's fall off get up fall off, get up ect...but Cube has always been Cube. On top of his hill watching the monster he help create devour the entire hip hop world (gangsta rap) Thank you frankenstein....

4.Snoop Dogg//
you know!!!!!!!!already this site is dedicated to em' nuff said.

5.Eazy-E//
(N.W.A.)bottom line... without Eazy-e, no Dre, no snoop, no independent lables, no Deathrow, No anything!!! that has to do with artists having their own dough, period.
As a voice Eazy-e will never be equalled in shear stature, he was short in size but huge on charisma, and had all the world wearing loc's starter jackets & raiders cap's, all stranded on Ruthless.
Important figure in music history..ask anyone that knows anything... (Eazy-E RIP)

          "hatesrats 2001" :-[
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: cremedelaclem on June 04, 2001, 07:22:11 AM
to the ignorant person who called biggie the "fat commercial rapper"

getcha thumb out ya ass and cop ready to die......if biggie was commercial then so was pac (shock horror) they both had songs about the women and the good life....but both were real as fuck.

i hate the small minded attitudes of some of these tupac dickriders...i mean, if i say something like "tupac often contradicted himself from song to song" i get blasted with people sayin "respect the dead man" but you can call biggie "the fat commercial rapper" and thats aiight?

man thats some fucked up shit.
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: HHH on June 04, 2001, 07:53:50 AM
2PAC.......BIGGIE........SNOOP  ;D
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: King of tha Coast (Guest) on June 04, 2001, 08:53:31 AM
1. Snoop
2. Pac
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: King of tha Coast (Guest) on June 04, 2001, 09:00:04 AM
1. Snoop
2. Pac
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 04, 2001, 08:01:19 PM
You're right Crem, that guy who called him that is unknowledgable...Plus Snoop is like 10 times more commercial...
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Nosak on June 04, 2001, 11:39:26 PM
dawm i don't think so,,,, why r u sayin this??? snoop got one or two catchin song by album and that's it , he didn't talk shit but gangstaz and bitches... i don't know bout biggie so that's why i didn't alk bout him,, and pac was always makin diss on his album to make people buy his album... snoop didn't do this,, if u buy his album is because u like his style and that's it !!!
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: West Coast Veteran on June 05, 2001, 12:49:59 AM
yeh i was wrong for dissin a dead man but dont fuckin call me unknowledgable when i've been listenin to hip hop longer than your ass buddy[NIK]...sorry if i offended anyone for showing my OPINIONS so dont get mad at me when i BITCH at you for dissin an artist i like ok!  i got RTD i got LAD so what! i like B.I.G. as a lyricist but not for the shit he did to change rap ok fuck...Snoop is commercial now because BIG started it...the nigga changed hip hop but for the worst with LAD[the commercial formula]! i aint a Pac dickrider dumb ass Nas is one of my favs and Mobb Deep's The Infamous is one of my fav albums...dont jump to conclusions!..but ive beeen on these EAST COAST sites and they been dissin Pac and Cube and the rest of the WEST so that just got me heated...thats why i dissed BIG ive been pro WEST COAST since...juss ignore my remarks if they offend you aight..ONE!!!
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: cremedelaclem on June 05, 2001, 01:16:24 PM
aiight...

i wasnt blastin you for your opinion, i can respect that you dont feel biggie's music...

but to start dissin him was messed up i thought, i mean, it aint like i can defend himself....

anyway, you apologised so its cool...

oNe LoVe.
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: cremedelaclem on June 05, 2001, 01:18:06 PM
i meant to put "he" cant defend himself, not "i"

laterz......
Title: Re: biggie, 2 pac, snoop???
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 05, 2001, 07:58:06 PM
I'm not gunna argue with somone who called BIG a fat commercial pig...Peace