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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Styles1 on February 05, 2008, 10:30:32 AM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlUUul4xxg9thCe8_3oeXWY5nYcB?slug=ap-vick-signingbonus&prov=ap&type=lgns
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- Jailed quarterback Michael Vick can keep all but $3.75 million of the nearly $20 million in bonus money he received from the Atlanta Falcons following a ruling Monday by a federal judge.
The Falcons sought to recover the bonuses after Vick pleaded guilty to federal charges in a dogfighting operation. The bonuses were paid from 2004-07.
A special master ruled in October the Falcons were entitled to recover the bonuses. The Falcons argued Vick used proceeds from a contract he signed in 2004 to finance his illicit activities.
But U.S. District Judge David Doty of Minneapolis ruled that recovery of most of the bonus money by the Falcons would violate the NFL collective bargaining agreement. The agreement does not allow roster bonus money to be forfeited once it's been earned, the judge wrote.
Vick received a 23-month jail sentence and entered a minimum-security prison in Leavenworth, Kan., last month. The league has suspended Vick indefinitely without pay.
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"It makes no sense that an individual who willfully violates his contract is entitled to be paid tens of millions of dollars even though he is in jail and providing no services whatsoever to his employer," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.
Vick's personal attorney, Lawrence Woodward Jr., said Vick was happy with the ruling but understands there could be appeals.
"He's grateful for some good news but he realizes he needs to keep doing all the right things to get back to playing football," Woodward said.
At a November hearing, union attorney Jeffrey Kessler contended Vick's "roster bonus" should be treated the same as a "performance bonus," which can't be forfeited under the agreement. The league maintained the roster bonus should be treated like a "signing bonus allocation," which could be forfeited.
Doty ruled that once Vick made the Falcons' 80-man roster, he earned the bonus money and the team cannot demand forfeiture. However, he wrote, the Falcons can recover $3.75 million of his 2006 signing bonus, which is governed by other rules and is something the union did not challenge.
"The Players Association is obviously delighted with the result," Kessler said. "It vindicates our view that a clear deal was made -- that once players earn their compensation that it is no longer subject to being taken back."
While the distinction about whether Vick's roster bonuses were guaranteed or not guaranteed may be important for salary cap purposes, Doty wrote, "it does not dictate the outcome in a forfeiture context."
Any money recovered would be credited to Atlanta's future salary cap.
Doty also ruled the Falcons may not use state law, even in a grievance procedure, to try to recoup Vick's bonus money.
Atlanta Falcons president Rich McKay said the team is disappointed with the ruling, but it won't affect the Falcons' salary cap for the 2008 season.
"Any potential recovery would have only affected our 2009 salary cap," McKay said. "As to our future legal strategies, we will meet with our legal representatives to more fully understand our options before making that determination."
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thats good.
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i wonder how much money Vick is still sitting on
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probably not much other than this money
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probably not much other than this money
yea hes probably down to only 3 mansions and 90 million in stocks and bonds. Poor guy. Thank god he gets to keep this 16 million. He would have been on welfare when he got out
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Yeah he might have gone to jail, but he doesn't deserve to get his money taken away. He earned that money
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The Falcons stay losing...And Vick's attorneys aren't as bad as I thought at first when he was facing all that time. They got him into that drug rehabilitation program, and he should get released early and all that. If he comes back to the league, it will be crazy how much he gets heckled and all that, but I would be really excited to see him play again, dude is an amazing talent.
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The Falcons stay losing...And Vick's attorneys aren't as bad as I thought at first when he was facing all that time. They got him into that drug rehabilitation program, and he should get released early and all that. If he comes back to the league, it will be crazy how much he gets heckled and all that, but I would be really excited to see him play again, dude is an amazing talent.
He will come back, I don't think that's a question. The question is, will he be back as a quarterback?
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The Falcons stay losing...And Vick's attorneys aren't as bad as I thought at first when he was facing all that time. They got him into that drug rehabilitation program, and he should get released early and all that. If he comes back to the league, it will be crazy how much he gets heckled and all that, but I would be really excited to see him play again, dude is an amazing talent.
Vick=Overrated. A QB's job is to throw the damn ball. Something Vick couldn't do. When he throws for 3000 yards or throws more then 20 TDs in a season, then I might consider him any kind of talent.
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probably not much other than this money
yea hes probably down to only 3 mansions and 90 million in stocks and bonds. Poor guy. Thank god he gets to keep this 16 million. He would have been on welfare when he got out
did Vick get any money off the house in Virginia?
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my nigga Vick going to come back home stronger than ever and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin for you devil pet lovers
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fuck the haters..Vick talented as fuck...is he Marino? hell no but he can get the job done. Id take him,Vick>Alex Smith
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
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The Falcons stay losing...And Vick's attorneys aren't as bad as I thought at first when he was facing all that time. They got him into that drug rehabilitation program, and he should get released early and all that. If he comes back to the league, it will be crazy how much he gets heckled and all that, but I would be really excited to see him play again, dude is an amazing talent.
Vick=Overrated. A QB's job is to throw the damn ball. Something Vick couldn't do. When he throws for 3000 yards or throws more then 20 TDs in a season, then I might consider him any kind of talent.
Yes, he was a very overrated pro QB, but his talent was amazing. He had that ability to take over a game, although this long layoff will be interesting to see what happens. I was thinking more along the lines of if he will come back as a QB? There is no question that he is an exciting player.
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fuck the haters..Vick talented as fuck...is he Marino? hell no but he can get the job done. Id take him,Vick>Alex Smith
i loved watching Vick play
but after that amazing 2002 year he went down a notch each season
2006 was cool because he had 1000 rushing yards but the team sucked a nut and he was on and off.
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
So you're saying that you know killing dogs is forbidden because it's a black thing? Real eyes realize real lies...you're fulla' shit.
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
So you're saying that you know killing dogs is forbidden because it's a black thing? Real eyes realize real lies...you're fulla' shit.
just like the sentences giving out between powder cocaine and rock arent fucked up. huh?? or for that matter crimes and punishment....... you should know this cuz i know there are a lot of so called jew lawyers....... and we all know who fucks with what when it comes down to rock & powder... child molesters who doing them mostly actually marjority.......... dont give me that shit........ recognize.... eye know what the fuck is going on...... we aint playin on an even field. you people can try to convince niggas that we are but real niggas know whats up and it aint the sky
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
So you're saying that you know killing dogs is forbidden because it's a black thing? Real eyes realize real lies...you're fulla' shit.
just like the sentences giving out between powder cocaine and rock arent fucked up. huh?? or for that matter crimes and punishment....... you should know this cuz i know there are a lot of so called jew lawyers....... and we all know who fucks with what when it comes down to rock & powder... child molesters who doing them mostly actually marjority.......... dont give me that shit........ recognize.... eye know what the fuck is going on...... we aint playin on an even field. you people can try to convince niggas that we are but real niggas know whats up and it aint the sky
Buddy...we're talking about dog fighting here. :laugh:
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
So you're saying that you know killing dogs is forbidden because it's a black thing? Real eyes realize real lies...you're fulla' shit.
just like the sentences giving out between powder cocaine and rock arent fucked up. huh?? or for that matter crimes and punishment....... you should know this cuz i know there are a lot of so called jew lawyers....... and we all know who fucks with what when it comes down to rock & powder... child molesters who doing them mostly actually marjority.......... dont give me that shit........ recognize.... eye know what the fuck is going on...... we aint playin on an even field. you people can try to convince niggas that we are but real niggas know whats up and it aint the sky
Buddy...we're talking about dog fighting here. :laugh:
so what u really sayin is that your stuck and do got shit to come back with..... because what eye said before has to do with what eye am talkin about........
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
So you're saying that you know killing dogs is forbidden because it's a black thing? Real eyes realize real lies...you're fulla' shit.
just like the sentences giving out between powder cocaine and rock arent fucked up. huh?? or for that matter crimes and punishment....... you should know this cuz i know there are a lot of so called jew lawyers....... and we all know who fucks with what when it comes down to rock & powder... child molesters who doing them mostly actually marjority.......... dont give me that shit........ recognize.... eye know what the fuck is going on...... we aint playin on an even field. you people can try to convince niggas that we are but real niggas know whats up and it aint the sky
Buddy...we're talking about dog fighting here. :laugh:
so what u really sayin is that your stuck and do got shit to come back with..... because what eye said before has to do with what eye am talkin about........
What do drugs have to do with dog fighting? Why do you think DOG FIGHTING is prohibited for being a black hobby? Stick to the topic, crackhead.
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
So you're saying that you know killing dogs is forbidden because it's a black thing? Real eyes realize real lies...you're fulla' shit.
just like the sentences giving out between powder cocaine and rock arent fucked up. huh?? or for that matter crimes and punishment....... you should know this cuz i know there are a lot of so called jew lawyers....... and we all know who fucks with what when it comes down to rock & powder... child molesters who doing them mostly actually marjority.......... dont give me that shit........ recognize.... eye know what the fuck is going on...... we aint playin on an even field. you people can try to convince niggas that we are but real niggas know whats up and it aint the sky
Buddy...we're talking about dog fighting here. :laugh:
so what u really sayin is that your stuck and do got shit to come back with..... because what eye said before has to do with what eye am talkin about........
What do drugs have to do with dog fighting? Why do you think DOG FIGHTING is prohibited for being a black hobby? Stick to the topic, crackhead.
this got everything to do with the topic. open your mind.......look at the bigger picture grasshopper.
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/07/vick.dogs.rehab/index.html
Vick's Fighting Dog's Get A 2nd Chance.....
KANAB, Utah (CNN) -- Ellen doesn't look like a top-fighting dog.
Michael Vick agreed to pay nearly $1 million to subsidize the various facilities caring for his 47 pit bulls.
She wags her tail and gives kisses to anyone who greets her. But the deep scars on her face are permanent reminders of her difficult and violent past.
Ellen is one of the 47 pit bulls seized from an illegal dog fighting ring on property owned by disgraced NFL quarterback Michael Vick.
The dogs were bred to fight to the death. Of course, if trained properly they can be gentle loyal pets.
Twenty-two of the pit bulls now reside at sanctuary at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in the mountain town of Kanab, Utah. The 25 other dogs have been placed at rehabilitation shelters across the country.
All of them are lucky to be alive.
The Humane Society of the United States and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wanted the dogs euthanized. But rescue operations won their fight to give these animals a second chance at life.
"There's a belief by a lot of people that these dogs cannot be rehabilitated," said the facility's veterinarian, Dr. Frank McMillan. "It's true that they can't all be [rehabilitated], but we're finding out here and elsewhere, that they can and they become very nice pets."
How do you rehab an animal bred to kill? Dan Simon goes inside the no-kill shelter hoping to resocialize and find homes for Michael Vick's fighting dogs.
The dogs have only been at the shelter about a month and their caregivers have already seen signs of progress.
"I was surprised at how many were shy. There were quite a few that were under socialized and pretty shut down," said Michelle Besmehn, who oversees the dogs at the sanctuary.
"I've been really pleased at how quickly they're coming around. It's actually been fun to see personalities are starting to show. "
One of the most affectionate and lovable dogs at the shelter is Lucas -- Vick's champion fighter.
Shelter staff believes the scarred, brown 65-pound pit bull won praise and special treatment for winning fights and money, perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars for Vick and his associates.
Despite his good nature, a court ruled that Lucas can never leave the sanctuary because of his violent past.
Dogs that didn't fight well were beaten, drowned, shot and even electrocuted by Vick and his associates, according to court records.
Thought it's nearly impossible to know the extent of the emotional and physical abuse these dogs endured, in some cases it's apparent.
One dog, Georgia, had all 42 of her teeth pulled. Caregivers believe it was to prevent her from attacking male dogs during forced breeding.
"We don't know who did it. We assume it's because she was such a valuable breeding dog," McMillian said. "Very often females will not accept males in breeding and will attack."
The National Geographic Channel will profile Georgia and three of the other pit bulls as part of an ongoing television series, "Dogtown," which follows the rehabilitation and resocialization of the worst cases.
The hope is that six months from now, some of the dogs will become normal, lovable pets that are safe enough to adopt.
Even if they never get adopted, the dogs will always have a home at Best Friends, which doesn't euthanize for behavioral reasons.
The former Atlanta Falcons quarterback is serving a 23-month sentence at maximum-security prison in Leavenworth, Kansas. The NFL suspended Vick indefinitely without pay. He agreed to pay nearly $1 million to subsidize the various facilities that are caring for his former pit bulls.
"To me, and to those of us that care about animals, it's more than fair and maybe not enough," said McMillan.
"If he wants to play football, none of us here care about that. But we don't want him ever owning a dog again."
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
So you're saying that you know killing dogs is forbidden because it's a black thing? Real eyes realize real lies...you're fulla' shit.
just like the sentences giving out between powder cocaine and rock arent fucked up. huh?? or for that matter crimes and punishment....... you should know this cuz i know there are a lot of so called jew lawyers....... and we all know who fucks with what when it comes down to rock & powder... child molesters who doing them mostly actually marjority.......... dont give me that shit........ recognize.... eye know what the fuck is going on...... we aint playin on an even field. you people can try to convince niggas that we are but real niggas know whats up and it aint the sky
Buddy...we're talking about dog fighting here. :laugh:
so what u really sayin is that your stuck and do got shit to come back with..... because what eye said before has to do with what eye am talkin about........
What do drugs have to do with dog fighting? Why do you think DOG FIGHTING is prohibited for being a black hobby? Stick to the topic, crackhead.
this got everything to do with the topic. open your mind.......look at the bigger picture grasshopper.
I'm not talking about whites holding blacks down, you moron...I'm talking about dog fighting being okay. Do you really think killing dogs is okay or do you only pretend to be this stupid?
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
So you're saying that you know killing dogs is forbidden because it's a black thing? Real eyes realize real lies...you're fulla' shit.
just like the sentences giving out between powder cocaine and rock arent fucked up. huh?? or for that matter crimes and punishment....... you should know this cuz i know there are a lot of so called jew lawyers....... and we all know who fucks with what when it comes down to rock & powder... child molesters who doing them mostly actually marjority.......... dont give me that shit........ recognize.... eye know what the fuck is going on...... we aint playin on an even field. you people can try to convince niggas that we are but real niggas know whats up and it aint the sky
Buddy...we're talking about dog fighting here. :laugh:
so what u really sayin is that your stuck and do got shit to come back with..... because what eye said before has to do with what eye am talkin about........
What do drugs have to do with dog fighting? Why do you think DOG FIGHTING is prohibited for being a black hobby? Stick to the topic, crackhead.
this got everything to do with the topic. open your mind.......look at the bigger picture grasshopper.
I'm not talking about whites holding blacks down, you moron...I'm talking about dog fighting being okay. Do you really think killing dogs is okay or do you only pretend to be this stupid?
its all apart of the process. he wasnt going around pickin up dogs and killing them. he was using them to fight and after while they are no longer good to fight, they become all fucked up and shit...so put them out they misery........... what about them racing dogs u white people bet on...after awhile those racing dogs dont u guys kill them...........????? eye remember hearing about some petition for not killin the dogs after they racing careers.some shit like that
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Man...Vick wasn't putting dogs "out of their misery"...He was drowning them, electrocuting them, smashig their heads in, etc. Don't say shit if you don't know shit.
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and i hope he continues to do his dog fightin
I hope a pitbull attacks you.
if a pitbull or a dog for that matter attacked, id stab it dead in its eyes. niggas fight pits shit oh well--- the only problem is that its not an activity done by mostly whites.. so its a crime.
I hope you don't believe the shit you type...LOL.
eye dont be-LIE-ve........................ eye KNOW..no room for assumptions..
So you're saying that you know killing dogs is forbidden because it's a black thing? Real eyes realize real lies...you're fulla' shit.
just like the sentences giving out between powder cocaine and rock arent fucked up. huh?? or for that matter crimes and punishment....... you should know this cuz i know there are a lot of so called jew lawyers....... and we all know who fucks with what when it comes down to rock & powder... child molesters who doing them mostly actually marjority.......... dont give me that shit........ recognize.... eye know what the fuck is going on...... we aint playin on an even field. you people can try to convince niggas that we are but real niggas know whats up and it aint the sky
Buddy...we're talking about dog fighting here. :laugh:
so what u really sayin is that your stuck and do got shit to come back with..... because what eye said before has to do with what eye am talkin about........
What do drugs have to do with dog fighting? Why do you think DOG FIGHTING is prohibited for being a black hobby? Stick to the topic, crackhead.
this got everything to do with the topic. open your mind.......look at the bigger picture grasshopper.
LOL @ putting them out of their misery..
I'm not talking about whites holding blacks down, you moron...I'm talking about dog fighting being okay. Do you really think killing dogs is okay or do you only pretend to be this stupid?
its all apart of the process. he wasnt going around pickin up dogs and killing them. he was using them to fight and after while they are no longer good to fight, they become all fucked up and shit...so put them out they misery........... what about them racing dogs u white people bet on...after awhile those racing dogs dont u guys kill them...........????? eye remember hearing about some petition for not killin the dogs after they racing careers.some shit like that