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Title: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 13, 2008, 01:13:09 PM
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The Nets have agreed to trade Jason Kidd and Malik Allen to the Mavericks for Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, Devean George, DeSagana Diop, Maurice Ager, two first-round picks and cash.

LMAO I Love it! Keep fucking up your roster West Conference teams!
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Man On The Moon on February 13, 2008, 01:14:49 PM
dumbfucks....
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: E-Crazy on February 13, 2008, 01:17:42 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: 7even on February 13, 2008, 01:23:52 PM
Fuck life. My fist is bleeding.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 13, 2008, 01:55:07 PM
^LMAO...I can't believe they gave up Devin Harris! I wouldn't have even given Jordan Farmar straight up.

I wonder how this affects him as a starter for the east in the all-star game? :-X

And most of all, his fantasy value (he's on my team).


Blockbuster trades have been through the roof this season.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: PLANT on February 13, 2008, 02:13:44 PM
Thats crazy.  The Mavs gave up A LOT to get him.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 13, 2008, 02:17:41 PM
Mitch Kupchak just owned the entire fuckin conference!

Kyle Korver to Utah > the Phoenix and Dallas deals.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Lunatic on February 13, 2008, 02:20:03 PM
The mavs did give up alot, but i wouldn't shoot myself if i was a mavs fan :-X

harris - great young pg, with potential. He has started a lot of games, but has been pretty inconsistent in the assist category
stackhouse - on the decline, who cares
geroge - average players, who's best days are behind him
Diop - good role player. Great rebounder and blocker, but worth giving up for kidd
Ager - Barely plays, hasn't been in Dallas plans as of yet.

The draft picks i got a little problem with.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 13, 2008, 02:27:34 PM
^If I were the Mavs, I wouldn't even give Devin Harris straight up...He shoots a great percentage for a small guy and has amazing foot speed. And he's 24! Could easily be the next Tony Parker. Jason Kidd will be retired when Harris hits his prime. :-X
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Lunatic on February 13, 2008, 03:06:09 PM
^If I were the Mavs, I wouldn't even give Devin Harris straight up...He shoots a great percentage for a small guy and has amazing foot speed. And he's 24! Could easily be the next Tony Parker. Jason Kidd will be retired when Harris hits his prime. :-X
i would, but its all good. That is all very true. Parker would be a good comparison. Dallas clearly wants to win NOW i guess :-\
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on February 13, 2008, 04:04:48 PM
you may be a Jordan Farmar fan...but not trading him strait up for Kidd would just be stupid lol

As for this deal, i dont know how much it really helps the Mavs.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: SGV on February 13, 2008, 04:10:13 PM
Teams like the Mavs and the Suns have a win now mentality. They've been playing so good for the past few seasons, but they've yet to win the big dance. This trade won't benefit Dallas down the line, but it SHOULD benefit them this season or next.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on February 13, 2008, 04:29:35 PM
you may be a Jordan Farmar fan...but not trading him strait up for Kidd would just be stupid lol

As for this deal, i dont know how much it really helps the Mavs.
remains to be seen how good Farmar can be but what NIK said isnt as stupid as you think. The Lakers are a young team and can rely on the future and already gave up Crittenton and have veteran leadership in Fisher. That bein said Dallas did what they wanted as far as wanting to win now...doesnt mean all teams are in the same situation.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: SGV on February 13, 2008, 04:38:14 PM
That bein said Dallas did what they wanted as far as wanting to win now...doesnt mean all teams are in the same situation.

Thank you. People criticizing this deal are looking at it with blurred vision. At the time that the Lakers and Nets tried coming to a deal for Kidd, it was a win now situation. Now, this season, the Lakers don't need a win now scenario, they have a team that will work well into the future.

But, the Mavs are at a win now point. They don't wanna waste any more years without winning. The deal works for them. Yes, they gave up a good young prospect, but Harris was NOT gonna bring them a title this season or even next. Which is what they wanted.

Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 13, 2008, 04:40:46 PM
you may be a Jordan Farmar fan...but not trading him strait up for Kidd would just be stupid lol


Lets see if you'll be saying that in 2 years.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Don Jacob on February 13, 2008, 05:03:47 PM
wow that was horrible! J-Kidd is one of my all time favs but maaaaaaan what the fuck were the mavs injecting into their veins today?

devin harris is your FUTURE. as well as your future draft picks and a handful of important role players. the mavs just traded away their future!


as far as blockbuster trades this season goes....this was the worst


celtics>>>lakers>>>>>>>>>>>>Suns>Mavs
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on February 13, 2008, 05:07:54 PM
Wow Is JAson Kidd that good?????

Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Don Jacob on February 13, 2008, 05:24:26 PM
yes and no. if the mavs don't do shit this year it's a HORRID trade. if they do....then yeah.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on February 13, 2008, 05:47:18 PM
you may be a Jordan Farmar fan...but not trading him strait up for Kidd would just be stupid lol


Lets see if you'll be saying that in 2 years.

Right now, comparing Kidd to Farmar is pure comedy. Of course, as a player ages their skills will slow down. An older great player will eventually be worse then a younger average player. Was Larry Holmes really better then Ali? No. Kidd could help a team win a championship right now (maybe), Farmar at his best will be a piece to a championship. Do you really think the Lakers are planning for the future...or planning for the present? Signing Gasol and keeping Kobe makes me think they are planning for the present.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Eddie G. on February 13, 2008, 05:52:06 PM
what a ridiculous move.  harris for kidd is questionable enough, but throwing stackhouse and diop into the mix makes this the dumbest fucking thing i've seen in a long time.  this definitely tops the shaq trade.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 13, 2008, 06:28:21 PM
you may be a Jordan Farmar fan...but not trading him strait up for Kidd would just be stupid lol


Lets see if you'll be saying that in 2 years.

Right now, comparing Kidd to Farmar is pure comedy. Of course, as a player ages their skills will slow down. An older great player will eventually be worse then a younger average player. Was Larry Holmes really better then Ali? No. Kidd could help a team win a championship right now (maybe), Farmar at his best will be a piece to a championship. Do you really think the Lakers are planning for the future...or planning for the present? Signing Gasol and keeping Kobe makes me think they are planning for the present.


The window of oppurtunity for Kobe+Gasol is much greater than Kidd's. Kidd's window of oppurtunity is already starting to close in on him...ANYONE should be able to see that.


The Lakers will be dominating the league for some time now...and Jordan will be an important piece to that.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Citizen-Y on February 13, 2008, 06:30:51 PM
GEORGE
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 13, 2008, 06:34:00 PM
LOL@Devean fucking George killing the deal. :-X
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 13, 2008, 06:54:00 PM
I knew I shouldn't have said officially.  :-X
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on February 13, 2008, 07:00:28 PM
I knew I shouldn't have said officially.  :-X

is it officilaly fucked?
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 13, 2008, 07:05:16 PM
I officially don't know anymore.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs
Post by: thisoneguy360 on February 13, 2008, 09:14:18 PM
Fuck life. My fist is bleeding.

LOL your sig made my day
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 13, 2008, 09:23:07 PM
I wonder why the hell New Jersey cares about Devean fucking George? And if Dallas really wants this, why don't they just throw in someone like Eddie Jones or Juwan Howard instead? I mean, how much value does George really hold to block a deal like this?...LOL
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on February 13, 2008, 10:39:56 PM
how much value does George really hold to block a deal like this?...LOL
i was thinkin the same thing...also why would you wanna stay where its obvious nobody wants you there?
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it up)
Post by: wcsoldier on February 13, 2008, 10:50:13 PM
Dallas is DUMB for giving up Harris:

1) Harris has the ability to penetrate and get the opponent bigs in foul trouble
2) on the defensive end , he was able to match Parker speed and thats one of the reasons Mavs matched up well with SAS.. Kidd is a good defender but hes gonna be eaten alive by Parker, Paul ..
3) I know he's gonna improve the team chemistry and leadership but  matchups are part of what the playoffs are about .. they are so many great PGs in that conference , Kidd wont have the clear edge against most of the teams

Dallas adressed the wrong issue, they needed a post presence , they traded (well if it's still happened) for a PG .. while already having the best PG rotation .. plus by giving up Diop, they 're gonna be eaten alive inside ...
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: Antonio_ on February 13, 2008, 11:40:07 PM
The homie wcsoldier already explained it well. It's not about who's the best player. It's about matchups. It's like a chess game. Diop was their only good defender inside, and Harris is a very promising PG anyway, who can run, play up-tempo basket and try to defend one on one against Iverson, Paul and Parker. Very very bad trade. They loose those two pieces of the puzzle to get Kidd. Don't get me wrong: Kidd is God, but he won't really improve Dallas dramatically. Like wcsoldier said, they needed a post presence.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 13, 2008, 11:48:09 PM
^^Kidd, at this age, is FAR from God.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it up)
Post by: Hatesrats™ on February 14, 2008, 12:06:38 AM
Kidd's style Of play He Can Ball Until he's 40+ prob.
Danm, 34 is Old Now?
People act like he's Bout' to kick over & Die...lol

But IMO, Dallas is giving up way Tooooo Much For Kidd... (And Malik Allen)
That Being said, I Support This trade for The Mav's.
I Can't Knock it Cause How can anyone Say A Jason Kidd Led "Motiviated Team" will be worse off?
Kidd Will defo make this team better, But The lack of a REAL big man inside will be their downfall.

Harris is/Was their future & I would have thrown in Terry in a heartbeat instead, But Dallas is looking at the Here & Now!
How Long can This team continue to win & stay relevent in a western conference that keep's getting better & better everyday.

N.O. coming on, Portland ect..
Devean George Will Come around eventualy, Money talk's.
Dude just want's to know what's up with More $, and what his role will be in  N.J.

I think I heard Somewhere (IF The Deal Goes down) that Stackhouse will eventualy be let go by N.J. on waiver's
and Then Dallas will Quickly scoop him back up.

Fuck it, bring Kidd on.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 14, 2008, 12:13:34 AM
Kidd's style Of play He Can Ball Until he's 40+ prob.
Danm, 34 is Old Now?
People act like he's Bout' to kick over & Die...lol

But IMO, Dallas is giving up way Tooooo Much For Kidd... (And Malik Allen)
That Being said, I Support This trade for The Mav's.
I Can't Knock it Cause How can anyone Say A Jason Kidd Led "Motiviated Team" will be worse off?
Kidd Will defo make this team better, But The lack of a REAL big man inside will be their downfall.

Harris is/Was their future & I would have thrown in Terry in a heartbeat instead, But Dallas is looking at the Here & Now!
How Long can This team continue to win & stay relevent in a western conference that keep's getting better & better everyday.

N.O. coming on, Portland ect..
Devean George Will Come around eventualy, Money talk's.
Dude just want's to know what's up with More $, and what his role will be in  N.J.

I think I heard Somewhere (IF The Deal Goes down) that Stackhouse will eventualy be let go by N.J. on waiver's
and Then Dallas will Quickly scoop him back up.

Fuck it, bring Kidd on.



It's not even about the age, really...Look at how his stats have decreased every year for the past 6 years. It's like all he's good for now is passing the ball, and he's amazing at that, but he's just not someone you trade two of your core players for (one who's a potential future all-star)...not at this stage of his career, at least.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: Hatesrats™ on February 14, 2008, 12:30:08 AM
It's not even about the age, really...Look at how his stats have decreased every year for the past 6 years. It's like all he's good for now is passing the ball, and he's amazing at that, but he's just not someone you trade two of your core players for (one who's a potential future all-star)...not at this stage of his career, at least.

I feel That bro..
But I Don't Think Dallas was/is Thinking about The 16+ Point's a Game Kidd They had as a ROY..
They are looking at The Possibility of a Floor leader who Can Spoon feed Dirk in The playoff's, Cause Dirk Seem's to wear Down Come Playoffs.
+ Jason Still Putting it Down with The Triple Double Type number's it may only be 11.3pts 10.4 Assists & 8.10 rebounds..
But That's All it will take In Dallas IMO. + Kidd can prob Step up his scoring if he need's too.

It makes Dallas Worth watching From a fan's Stand Point, I Was Bored of Their Lineup already.  ;D

On a side Note, My man G. Hill Still ballin'...
I still remember when Kidd & Hill = Rookies of the year. (Nostalgia)
(It Was Dope To see Hill Playing well Tonight, & Kidd in The news Today)
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it up)
Post by: wcsoldier on February 14, 2008, 12:39:24 AM
Talking about matchups , one more reason Dallas needed a big :

Dirk will have to defend both Pau and Amare after Suns and Lakers trades ...  :-X
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 14, 2008, 12:46:53 AM
It's not even about the age, really...Look at how his stats have decreased every year for the past 6 years. It's like all he's good for now is passing the ball, and he's amazing at that, but he's just not someone you trade two of your core players for (one who's a potential future all-star)...not at this stage of his career, at least.

I feel That bro..
But I Don't Think Dallas was/is Thinking about The 16+ Point's a Game Kidd They had as a ROY..
They are looking at The Possibility of a Floor leader who Can Spoon feed Dirk in The playoff's, Cause Dirk Seem's to wear Down Come Playoffs.
+ Jason Still Putting it Down with The Triple Double Type number's it may only be 11.3pts 10.4 Assists & 8.10 rebounds..
But That's All it will take In Dallas IMO. + Kidd can prob Step up his scoring if he need's too.

It makes Dallas Worth watching From a fan's Stand Point, I Was Bored of Their Lineup already.  ;D

On a side Note, My man G. Hill Still ballin'...
I still remember when Kidd & Hill = Rookies of the year. (Nostalgia)
(It Was Dope To see Hill Playing well Tonight, & Kidd in The news Today)



Yea...Grant Hill still has it. Dude is provin' all the haters wrong. Which brings me to my next point- Hill is injury free. He's in the same spot career-wise as Jason Kidd...Would you trade all those players for Grant Hill? It's not about numbers and whether or not they still have it...it's about window of opportunity...We know they're still ballin', but when you make a trade like this, you gotta factor in whether they're past their prime or not. How much more can Kidd help the Mavs than a Devin Harris (10 years younger)? Devin Harris' dribble penetration and point guard defense is a very big part of the success the Mavs were having. Is it worth gambling that away for a guy who has no more than a couple years left in the (already subsiding) tank? I don't really think so.

Like wcsoldier just said, seems to me like the Mavs need a big more than a point guard...and they're actually including their most efficient big in this deal! :-X
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it up)
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on February 14, 2008, 01:30:39 AM
Talking about matchups , one more reason Dallas needed a big :

Dirk will have to defend both Pau and Amare after Suns and Lakers trades ...  :-X

yeah, when I look at this again...Dallas would more then likely be hurting during playoff time. They still have no one to contend with Duncan, and if we think back to the 2003 finals....Jason Kidd in his prime could not stay in front of Tony Parker. If Parker gets healthy and we face them in the playoffs Jason Kidd might retire midseries. They will be basically turning themselves into the Suns with this trade and have no other option BUT to run. And we see where that gets the Suns.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it up)
Post by: wcsoldier on February 14, 2008, 01:39:41 AM
^^^^^ that's why it's a silly trade ... before this trade , Mavs were able to both run and play halfcourt .. now I dont see how they can be efficient on the halfcourt set against the Suns, Lakers and Spurs .. plus Dirk can be early in foul trouble .. if I am the Lakers or the Suns , I go early with Gasol and Amare against Dirk .. that's a huge mismatch imo because both can D Dirk (anyways they wont be in foul trouble by contesting Js ) better than he can defend both
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it up)
Post by: Tay on February 14, 2008, 01:50:10 AM
Yep, they lose too much in this trade. A big man and a quick, defensive point guard. Kidd can still run that fast break pretty good, but it's way more up-tempo in the West, with Phoenix, Golden State, and the good guard combos with the Lakers, Spurs, and Hornets. That's a lot of work for a player of Kidd's age, no matter how talented he is. They already got knocked off by the Warriors and their fast pace last year, so I don't see this working out too well for them. By the way, when I saw that Devean George blocked this trade, I started laughing. One of the funnier moments I can remember in recent sports.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it up)
Post by: tempo2 on February 14, 2008, 03:49:09 AM
to the people who are saying that dallas shouldnt of made the deal, r u for real? i mean seriousley are you right in the head? you do releaise the nets were going to buy out stackhouse and he'd resign for dallas? ok harris is ten years younger then kidd but dallas are wanting to win it now **se the phoenix and lakers trades**. saying trading for a guy who damm near averages a tripple double is bad is just ludacris. plus kidd plays some of the best all round defence in the league (although harris is no slouch) should the trade not work out then after a couple of years kidd will retire and dallas will sign a top level free agent? whats the problem? no offence but laker fans are sooooo funny to me? they have something to say about nearly every trade involving another team and its alllllwaaaayyyyssss negative. LMAO at saying getting kidd is a bad move.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it up)
Post by: tempo2 on February 14, 2008, 03:52:32 AM
to the people who are saying that dallas shouldnt of made the deal, r u for real? i mean seriousley are you right in the head? you do realise the nets were going to buy out stackhouse and he'd resign for dallas? ok harris is ten years younger then kidd but dallas are wanting to win it now **see the phoenix and lakers trades**. saying trading for a guy who damm near averages a tripple double is bad is just ludacris. plus kidd plays some of the best all round defence in the league (although harris is no slouch) should the trade not work out then after a couple of years kidd will retire and dallas will sign a top level free agent. whats the problem? no offence but laker fans are sooooo funny to me. they have something to say about nearly every trade involving another team and its alllllwaaaayyyyssss negative. LMAO at saying getting kidd is a bad move.

and people saying kidd is no god! on the other side of the coin either is harris. Theres no guarantee he's going to improve. his style of play would ususally suggest he'l regress.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: Antonio_ on February 14, 2008, 04:41:52 AM
^^Kidd, at this age, is FAR from God.

Well.. obviously. I was talking in general. Kidd at this age can't stop Paul, Nash, Parker, etc..

Harris at least can try to stay with his man one on one..
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 14, 2008, 10:30:08 AM
to the people who are saying that dallas shouldnt of made the deal, r u for real? i mean seriousley are you right in the head? you do releaise the nets were going to buy out stackhouse and he'd resign for dallas? ok harris is ten years younger then kidd but dallas are wanting to win it now **se the phoenix and lakers trades**. saying trading for a guy who damm near averages a tripple double is bad is just ludacris. plus kidd plays some of the best all round defence in the league (although harris is no slouch) should the trade not work out then after a couple of years kidd will retire and dallas will sign a top level free agent? whats the problem? no offence but laker fans are sooooo funny to me? they have something to say about nearly every trade involving another team and its alllllwaaaayyyyssss negative. LMAO at saying getting kidd is a bad move.


Laker fans? What are you talking about, son? You realize that everyone on this board disagreed with this trade, including Mav fans, correct? Quit speakin out your ass. Everyone gave good reasoning as to why this is a horrible trade on the Mavs part. All you can say is "KIDD AVERAGES ALMOST A TRIPLE-DOUBLE, YIPEEE!!!"...Come on, now. You know damn well that giving up a 24 year old all-star caliber point guard and your best big man is insane. If Kidd would make them contend now, that's a different story, but he wont... they'd actually be setting themselves back for not only the future, but for the now as well...PeACe
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: eS El Duque on February 14, 2008, 02:43:42 PM
I wonder why the hell New Jersey cares about Devean fucking George? And if Dallas really wants this, why don't they just throw in someone like Eddie Jones or Juwan Howard instead? I mean, how much value does George really hold to block a deal like this?...LOL

the trade is gonna go through...George just wants his paper. But he will go to NJ.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (nevermind, Devean George fucked it
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 14, 2008, 08:04:53 PM
Sources: Kidd To Dallas Still Alive

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Two sources close to the situation indicate that the Jason Kidd deal to Dallas is very much still alive, Marc Stein of ESPN is reporting.

It can either still happen in the proposed form or one where a player is substituted.

Following talks with George, Bartelstein told ESPN.com on Thursday: "Devean is still inclined not to change his stance [and go to New Jersey], but the Mavericks and Nets have asked us to take today to reconsider everything and we said we'd do that."

The second scenario to make the deal happen would involve Keith Van Horn in a sign-and-trade.

"We won't use [Van Horn] in any deal for anyone," Mark Cuban told ESPN.com last week.

Sources indicate that Cuban has reconsidered in light of the George situation.

I hope New Jersey demands someone more important to replace George. I'd love it if Terry + Stackhouse + Harris were all included in the deal. How about you 7even?
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: the.SET on February 14, 2008, 09:37:07 PM
New Jersey wants George's expiring contract, I dont think they are looking to resign him after the season. Thats why he (or his agent) is blocking the trade
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: tempo2 on February 15, 2008, 12:54:57 AM
well i for one believe kidd will help them contend and hence my reason for thinking its a good trade. you must be watching a different kidd to the one i watch if you'd rather have harris.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 15, 2008, 12:27:15 PM
well i for one believe kidd will help them contend and hence my reason for thinking its a good trade. you must be watching a different kidd to the one i watch if you'd rather have harris.


Kidd- FG%: 36%  PPG: 11  TO: 3.6  Age: 34

Harris- FG%: 48%  PPG: 14.5  TO: 2.4  Age: 24
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on February 15, 2008, 01:28:03 PM
well i for one believe kidd will help them contend and hence my reason for thinking its a good trade. you must be watching a different kidd to the one i watch if you'd rather have harris.


Kidd- FG%: 36%  PPG: 11  TO: 3.6  Age: 34

Harris- FG%: 48%  PPG: 14.5  TO: 2.4  Age: 24

yeah but other then that....

lol

Seriously tho, Kidds numbers will be better on the Mavs then they were with NJ, and Harris's numbers will more then likely dip.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 15, 2008, 03:54:01 PM
The deal between the Dallas Mavericks and New Jersey Nets involving Jason Kidd isn't dead, but it would already be finalized if it weren't for Mavs forward Devean George.

"Nothing's ever dead," Cuban said on Friday, "but there just aren't many options."

According to the Star-Telegram though, owner Mark Cuban doesn't have any hard feelings towards George.

"I love Devean George," Cuban said. "I just can't say the same about his agent."
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on February 15, 2008, 04:32:11 PM
This deal is now doomed to fail. Cursed from the beginning.

The Gasol trade was clean, low-key and strictly business. It is one of the best trades in a long time and will prove to be so, unless my warriors step up to the plate ;D
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 15, 2008, 08:13:18 PM
well i for one believe kidd will help them contend and hence my reason for thinking its a good trade. you must be watching a different kidd to the one i watch if you'd rather have harris.


Kidd- FG%: 36%  PPG: 11  TO: 3.6  Age: 34

Harris- FG%: 48%  PPG: 14.5  TO: 2.4  Age: 24

yeah but other then that....

lol

Seriously tho, Kidds numbers will be better on the Mavs then they were with NJ, and Harris's numbers will more then likely dip.


I dunno about that...as someone who has Kidd on his fantasy squad, I sorta wanted Kidd to stay in NJ.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: 7even on February 18, 2008, 04:51:31 AM
It will probably go down with Hassell and Van Horn instead of George and Stackhouse... I don't get how losing Diop seems to be a non-issue to Dallas. LOL@Dampier being the only center. Harris, a bunch of picks and Diop...  :-\
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: Antonio_ on February 18, 2008, 06:36:51 AM
It will probably go down with Hassell and Van Horn instead of George and Stackhouse... I don't get how losing Diop seems to be a non-issue to Dallas. LOL@Dampier being the only center. Harris, a bunch of picks and Diop...  :-\

Yeah homie, i've heard it too. It looks like they'll trade Hassell and KvH.

I don't know, Kidd is my man, but how can you guys win something with Dampier, Dirk and Brass defending against Gasol, Bynum, Odom? Or Duncan & Oberto? Or... shit.. even Shaq?
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 18, 2008, 10:05:09 AM
^^Well...Dampier is currently more effective than Shaq. Phoenix is probably the only "contending" team you guys can knock off in 7, though. :-X



Kidd deal might hurt Mavs in match-up against Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Kidd-deal-might-hurt-Mavs-in-match-up-against-Sp;_ylt=AhFQwJn1Kcl6O.IYpbUZVHmkvLYF?urn=nba%2C67154)

Monday, Feb 18, 2008 6:35 am EST

If the Jason Kidd deal is completed, don't expect the San Antonio Spurs to lose belief in their ability to compete with the Dallas Mavericks in a seven-game playoff series. Dallas presented them more matchup problems than any Western team, and one of the toughest was presented by the super-quick point guard Devin Harris, a tough cover for Tony Parker.

Kidd never has been able to blow by Parker, even five years ago. Soon, he will be 35.

Further, DeSegana Diop had some success defending Tim Duncan. The Mavericks like Brandon Bass, but he does not have Diop's length. If the deal goes down, Dallas will miss his defensive intensity.



LOL
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (the deal aint dead yet)
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 19, 2008, 12:09:20 PM
Kidd Trade Now Official

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The New Jersey Nets have acquired guards Devin Harris, Trenton Hassell, Maurice Ager, center DeSagana Diop and forward Keith Van Horn along with Dallas’ first round draft picks in 2008 and 2010, and cash considerations from the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for guard Jason Kidd and forwards Antoine Wright and Malik Allen, Nets President Rod Thorn announced today.

“This trade provides us with immediate help, most notably with the acquisition of Devin Harris, who we consider one of the rising young point guards in the NBA,” said Thorn. “Harris's numbers have improved each of his four years in the league, and we feel that he has a significant upside. This trade also will give us two future first round draft picks and will give us flexibility to improve our roster.”

"Jason Kidd has been the best player to wear a Nets uniform during my current tenure with the Nets,” added Thorn. “He was the toughest competitor with the fiercest will to win and he was the main component in the most successful period in the Nets NBA history. Jason is a first ballot Hall of Famer and the man most responsible for transforming the Nets into a high quality NBA team. We wish him nothing but success in his future endeavors.”
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: Lunatic on February 19, 2008, 01:28:07 PM
I think gettin antoine wright added to the deal is a nice bonus for the mavs
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 19, 2008, 02:04:30 PM
I think gettin antoine wright added to the deal is a nice bonus for the mavs


Wright was gunna be traded to the Mavs regardless...Good to see that the trade finally went down, though. ;D
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: Lunatic on February 19, 2008, 02:30:01 PM
I think gettin antoine wright added to the deal is a nice bonus for the mavs


Wright was gunna be traded to the Mavs regardless...Good to see that the trade finally went down, though. ;D
why u say he was goin there regardless? did i miss somethin :-\
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 19, 2008, 02:41:12 PM
I think gettin antoine wright added to the deal is a nice bonus for the mavs


Wright was gunna be traded to the Mavs regardless...Good to see that the trade finally went down, though. ;D
why u say he was goin there regardless? did i miss somethin :-\


Nets were tryna trade Antoine Wright for cap reasons.

In a related deal for cap reasons, the Nets would trade Antoine Wright for a second-rounder.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02152008/sports/nets/deal_busting_by_dallas_george_for_the_bi_97702.htm



In a second move, Dallas would get Antoine Wright for a future No. 2 pick.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/nets/Source_Kidd_trade_50-50_.html
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: Lunatic on February 19, 2008, 02:43:15 PM
^props

still a nice land for dallas tho lol..i get what ya sayin though..how the fuck jersey need 2 get rid of cap when they gettin rid of kidd :-\
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 19, 2008, 02:51:57 PM
^props

still a nice land for dallas tho lol..i get what ya sayin though..how the fuck jersey need 2 get rid of cap when they gettin rid of kidd :-\


Guess they're tryna make extra room to sign someone.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: Hatesrats™ on February 19, 2008, 03:48:43 PM
I Actually Want To See The Mavs play Now.
That Team They had was very stale IMO, Great Move J. Kidd Gonna make Them better.
But will it be enough?

This Second Half in The NBA Has Shaped Up To Go Down As One Of The Best Ever.
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: Hatesrats™ on February 24, 2008, 08:31:45 PM
Looks Like Kidd is Starting to click
17 Dimes
12 Pts
In Win Vs. T.Wolves.
Next Sunday's game Vs. The Lakers will be  8)
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: wcsoldier on February 25, 2008, 03:55:23 AM
I Actually Want To See The Mavs play Now.
That Team They had was very stale IMO, Great Move J. Kidd Gonna make Them better.
But will it be enough?

This Second Half in The NBA Has Shaped Up To Go Down As One Of The Best Ever.

The playoffs are gonna be off the hook this year , last year, outside GS, it was fucking boring ...
Title: Re: Jason Kidd oficially traded to the Mavs (for real this time)
Post by: 7even on February 25, 2008, 05:56:27 AM
Looks Like Kidd is Starting to click
17 Dimes
12 Pts
In Win Vs. T.Wolves.
Next Sunday's game Vs. The Lakers will be  8)

He had 15 the game before... looks like he can average more than Nash ...