West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: NobodyButMe on May 22, 2001, 06:28:53 PM
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i'm sorry guys, but i can't stand it when motherfuckers are talking about '2pac had too many beefs with people right before he died' and 'it was all cuz of suge knight.' fuck that shit. when 2pac was in jail, all motherfuckers did was talk shit about him and rip on his style, so when he got out, he talked a bunch of shit about them. end of story. he was gettin hated on while he was away and then he came back and said "guess who's back".
and all these punks talking about "2pac contradicted himself all the time". open your eyes and listen to the words.
i'm sorry for coming out like this, but i can't stand it when people are saying shit like "2pac was beefin with people cuz suge told him to." bullshit. he wrote 90% of those diss songs when he was in jail and recorded them with death row.
got beef with me and my thoughts? let me know
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anyway....
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Speak.
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im with you JT, good post
folks who have only got bad to say should just stay quiet, let him rest in peace
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i was just saying that this topic don't even need to be brought up cause there will always be them ignorant mufuckas that gotta throw some bullshit into the mix, it just comes with the territory. anyone talkin shit, just ignore them, they will go away soon enough when they realize what they be sayin ain't pissin noone off no mo.
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word alerg
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Pac Is A LEGEND. No One Can Fuck With Him. End Of Story. R.I.P. Pac
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yeah he was a legend...he was a quality rapper....he had tight subject matter.....he had tight delivery.....etc etc etc
but hes not god....and it aint blasphomy if someone got an opinion thats deemed to be even the slightest bit anti pac in any way...so peeps need to stop actin like it is...
i LOVE tupac's music, its just my opinion that he was messed up as a person and he couldnt make up his mind what he stood for and who he wantwed to be so he contradicted himself SOMETIMES
i mean, i challenge anyone to listen to 'keep ya head up' and then 'wonder why they call you bytch" and tell me that thats not a direct contradiction in terms
peace.
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bro, "keep ya head up" and "wonder y they call u bitch" are about 2 totally different subjects. Keep ya head up is for the women in the ghetto struggling tyring to make it, while wonder y they call u bitch is about those women that are gold digging and trying to stick a man cuz of his loot. he speaks directly about dolores tucker in one, and talks about women that are raising kids on their own in the other. two totally different things man. listen to the lyrics, not just the names of the songs.
yeah, no shit 2pac is not god, but i do feel that a lot of ignorant people hate on the man simply because he spoke his opinion. don't even try to tell me that this man was not criticized like crazy for everything he did, and not only was he criticized by the general public, but by people that were supposed to be his PEERS....ie: he was hated on by people that were supposedly DOWN with him. now, i don't know what you would do in that situation, but if you have any shred of human tendency in you, you would retaliate, which is what he did. whether or not 2pac took it a little far is a different question. personally, i think he took it a little far, but he was DEFENDING himself against backstabbers. he DID NOT get the credit he deserved when he was alive, and now motherfuckers are talking about 'oh we were always down with 2pac.' whatever man. the east gave him no love at all.
and, once more, pac had "contradictions" because he was real. he spoke what he was feeling at the time and if you listen CLOSELY, you can see how consistent he is in everything he speaks on. now, tell me that you don't have contradictory feelings sometimes. you were never mad at someone so much that you wanted to kill them? come on. contradictions and the feelings behind them are what make us real. everyone has contradicting feelings, they're just a fact of life....does that make us all confused? i don't think so
i don't mean to sound like a dick, and i know i do, but i feel like no one really gives 2pac his respect as a human being. yeah, he had skills, and we all know this, but damn, the brother was a very strong person that stood for something and opened a lot of peoples eyes.
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i understand what your saying.....
and of course i have contradictory feelings....im not perfect....not at all....but we wernet talking about me.
im just a little ticjked off at people who think everything 2pac said was 100% right and take it as gospel........his music wasnt all about positive messages...neither was his life. He was a GANGSTA RAPPER at the end of the day, sure he gave hope tio black people who were getting treated like shit by society but he was a GANGSTA RAPPER and was by no means perfect....thats all im trying to say...
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Pac Was More Of A POLITICAL RAPPER Than A GANGSTA RAPPER...He Just Turned GANGSTA When He Joined Tha Row But His POLITICAL Side Was Still Dominant...
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Whose hatin on Pac?? I didn't hear anyone say "2pac was shit", "I'm glad he died", "He was the worst ever". Everyone is speaking there opinion in a respectable fashion. Sometimes y'all take stuff about him personally.
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I think there is some on this bored that seem as if they are tired of 'Pac being brought up, but then again it took awhile to mention him. I personally feel as if 'Pac spoke, not truth to the world, but truth to 'Pac. Everybody is different, and we think different, and 'Pac thought like Tupac Shakur.
To some, what his saying is not believable because they can't understand, but to me, I feel 'Pac. I know gold digging ass bitches, but yet I see teenage moms struggling. Theres two sides to everything in life, and that's what was express in a 'Pac CD. You Had Fuck the World on his mostly positive CD Me Against the World, and yet White Mans' World on Makaveli, his most Death Row influiced CD. What ever you feel about 'Pac, remember, his human, and a great poet. The man was going to be great, as some black leaders said. He needed to mature yes, but he had something. And I'm not making out to be God, as no one made other great leaders God. I'm just saying his a leader that died before his time, and he spoke the truth to him. After all, I'm sure woman had a positive affect on him, but at the same time, what about them groupies.
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well said m dogg, good post