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Title: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: infinite59 on May 15, 2001, 12:22:32 PM
Is anybody still feeling Bone these days? From the years 94, Creep on a Come up to 97's Art of War.  Since then they've fallen off.  What happened?  How could a group so ill, turn so wack?  The loss of Eazy?  Problems with the label?  Money and Pussy made them loose their concentration?  What do ya'll think.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: wballz187 on May 15, 2001, 12:46:43 PM
its that bitch tomika wright whos fuccin bone over. after eazy died, she took over the label and know its in shambles.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Trauma-san on May 15, 2001, 12:58:05 PM
Everything That's Wrong With Bone Can Be Traced Back To Tomika Wright.  She Screwed Them All On Their Contracts, Only Paid Some Of Them, Tried To Play Them Against Each Other, List Goes On And On And On.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Jay ay Beee on May 15, 2001, 01:03:31 PM
Somebody needs to expain Tomika Wright and Ruthless to me cause I don't know nothing about that situation
Safe
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Mr_Loc on May 15, 2001, 01:07:11 PM
I agree with y'all that the Black Widow fucked Bone, thats a factor.

but also, it seems like they never come with any original shit anymore, when they first dropped doing that speed rap with the singing over the bomb old samples it was fresh. Now theyre STILL doing the exact same thing, its boring.

Also I think DJ UNeek fell the fuck off, i dont know if he produced their new shit or not, but hes wack these days IMO
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Last Dragon on May 15, 2001, 01:20:46 PM
Speaking about that, I know Bonedoesn't like her.  Has she ever responded to Bone's complaints?  I know Bizzy called her a Black Widow in the liner notes of Heaven'z Movie.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Trauma-san on May 15, 2001, 01:30:00 PM
It's Hard To Explain Tomika Wright, Because Nobody Can Figure Out What The Fuck Her Problem Is... I Think The Story Is

Eazy Was Dying, And Somehow They Were Married In The Hospital? After He Died, She Comes Up With Papers Saying She's His Wife, And Gets The Ownership Of Ruthless Records Out Of It.  I Believe Soon After That She Squeezed Jerry Heller Out Of The Picture, And They Really Haven't Done Anything Since, Except Release Bone Thugs Stuff.... (Or That's The Biggest Thing They've Done)... MC Ren Released 1 Album, MAYBE 2 (I Think It Was 2 ) On The Label, And An Eazy Album, But For Years Nothings Happened, Except Bone.  Then Word Comes Out That She's Not Paying Bizzy Bone, For Some Reason... All The Bone Members Got The Bright Idea That Even Though They Were Signed As A Group, They Could Sign Solo Deals Elsewhere, So They Did... Then Bizzy No Showed A Ton Of Shows (Because He Wasn't Getting Paid).  Then The Rest Of Bone Either Chose His Side, Or Fought With Him.  Then They Finally Dropped Their Last Ruthless Album (Or Maybe It's The One Coming Up) To Get Out OF Their Contract.

Basically, Tomika Didn't Have A Very Strong Relationship With Eazy, They Were Married Just Before He Died.  Then She Ran The Company Into The Ground, Because She Didn't Sign Anyone New, And Pissed Off The Few People That WERE Signed To The Label (Dresta, BKO Knockout, Bone, Ren) By Not Giving Them Promotion, Money, Or Helping Them Release Their Albums.  Basically, She's Done Nothing Except Collect The Cash... Any Responsible Label Would Have Hired More Peeps, Or Encouraged Artists To Release Stuff, Etc.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Trauma-san on May 15, 2001, 01:32:35 PM
OH, 1 More OF The Biggest Mistakes She Ever Made.  Ren's Album's Didn't Sell Shit (No Promotion)... Now, If Ren Was Signed To Aftermath, Or Doggystle, Or The Row, Don't You Think They Could Have Promoted Him Properly! That's One Of The Most Talented MC's Ever, And They Couldn't Make Him Go Gold...
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Rud on May 15, 2001, 01:37:42 PM
DAMN RITE TRAUMA...........REN CUD B SO BIG IF HE WAS ON A DECENT LABEL........RUTHLESS SUX, ITS WACK....I DONT EVEN THINK IT CAN B CALLED A LABEL!!!

ALL HIS ALBUMS R MORE OR LESS DOPE WITH A CUPLE OF TRACKS AS XCEPTIONS BUT PRODUCTION WITH DRE AND SUM HOT COLLABS WUD C A MAJOR ALBUM RELEASE!!

O AND SUM PROMOTION!

peace
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Hades on May 15, 2001, 02:33:45 PM
Bone ain't off Ruthless anytime soon

Resurrection was just the 3 album filled from their contract, they still got 3 more to do (since AOW counted as 2)
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Don Jacob on May 15, 2001, 03:37:13 PM
Actually i remember when Ren's album "ruthless for life" came out it was promoted heavily on BET and i remember seeing ads for it in a few magazines and the single "ruthless for Life" was on the rap city top 10 for a bit too

it didn't sell becuase it came out in 98', the year of the westcoast/gangsta rap backlash, where every one didn't care for anything from the west anymore....people were all into shit like

Puffy
Mase
Master P
Silkk the shocker
and Will Smith
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: TheSheriff on May 15, 2001, 05:33:10 PM
Eazy wouldn't have married her if they weren't close. And at least the music came out by them.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Don Seer on May 15, 2001, 05:40:18 PM
i've never felt bone.

but i only realised it was them Biggies - Notorious Thugs today.

what should i check out?
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Doggystylin on May 15, 2001, 05:56:21 PM
Tomica wright is nothin but a money hungry biaaaatch,  she bassicly broke bone up and got them in a fight. Bone was always one of my favorite groups but nowdays (2001) they have been falling off as a group... Ruthless really sucks Huge D**K

and i think its 1994 -early 2000 cause i liked ressurection

and to overseer : most of their albums are good like Creep on + East 1999 + Art of War + Resserection but i dont know which one you would like
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Mr_Loc on May 15, 2001, 06:40:23 PM
i would say E 1999 Eternal was their best work overseer
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 15, 2001, 08:24:17 PM
I don't think they are wack. They just aren't trying hard since they are getting treated like shit. If you were locked up in a label where you ain't gettin paid are you gonna go out of your way to make a album for free??

I have also heard they have released all the albums needed to get out of their contract. The Collection Vol. 2 was the last one I heard. I never heard of the other three albums. If they were still on Ruthless then they woulda released their solos on Ruthless like Krayzie and Bizzy have done in the past.

Its messed up how a group with so much talent get treated like crap.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Top-Dogg2001 on May 15, 2001, 09:30:41 PM
You out actin like yo' shit be tight
Get some shit, fuck it off like Tamika Wright-
MC Ren on Set it Off

It's a shame how Bone just fell apart. They were one of the tightest groups when they came out now they are crap. The sad thing is that they aren't even friends anymore.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Hades on May 16, 2001, 12:23:35 AM
Bone's contract consists of this

7 LP's of new material

Collections, EP's and solo's don't count

Eternal = 1 LP
AOW = 2 LP
Resurrection = 1 LP

3 more to go
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 16, 2001, 12:28:17 AM
Don't The Collection 1 & 2 count too? I heard it didn't have to be new material.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: TL on May 16, 2001, 01:59:11 AM
Ya, the collection albums count.  Their upcoming album "Thug World Order" will be their last album on Ruthless Records.  It was said in an interview.

And Bizzy Bone is off of Ruthless.  He was going to sue Ruthless but they settled it, by letting him out of his contract.  That's why The Gift isn't released on Ruthless.

I think the beef between Bizzy, Wish & Krayzie is pretty much squashed.  Bizzy said he had no problem working with them, as long as he gets paid.

Overseer, their styles seem to vary between all their albums.  I personally liked Ressurection the best (their newest one) then Est. 1999.  Ressurection had some tight ass production; namely from LT & DJ Uneek.  Flesh -n- Bone came fuckin' tight throughout that CD.  Est. 1999 is more gangsta, however.  Whatever suits your tastes I guess

Be sure to check out "Thug Musik" with Krayzie, Layzie & Wish.  It's off the Down 2 Earth soundtrack (movie with Chris Rock) that track is tight, and I think Layzie's verse basically sums up their current state.

Also be sure to check out Thug Luv w/ Pac (I'm sure you already have :P)

peace.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 16, 2001, 02:11:25 AM
I hope Thug World Order will be their last on Ruthless. They sure know how to kill careers. I heard Thug World Order is comin out later this year.

I know Bizzy put his solo out on anotherlabel but so is Krayzie. He is putting his out on Loud this summer. Didi he sue too?
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Hades on May 16, 2001, 10:58:31 AM
i know their fuckin contract

7 LP's, and Collections and EP's and solo's don't count

and their new album isn't called Thug World Order, it's still untitled. They'll title it when their done with it.

Expect production from Uneek, Super Sako, LT Hutton and more

3 more LP's to go and their off of Ruthless, but that's if Tomica wants to release their final album to fullfil their contract...lol
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: TL on May 16, 2001, 03:55:10 PM
Oh ok tizmisce.  I'll believe you over what Bone said.  I'll also believe that their new CD is untitled, seeing as Layzie Bone was on 106 and park and publically annouced it was going to be called Thug World Order.

Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 17, 2001, 01:09:09 AM
Overseer...Check out 'E. 1999' or 'Creepin On Ah Come Up'...


They only owe 1 more album:

1.E 1999
2.Art of War
3.The Collection Vol. 1
4.Ressurection
5.The Collection Vol. 2
6. And a new album should be droppin around late 2002...

Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 17, 2001, 01:27:37 AM
Yeah I doubt they owe Ruthless 3 more.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: caTASHtrophe on May 17, 2001, 06:17:17 PM
Bone Thugs are the best.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Hades on May 18, 2001, 11:05:58 AM
for the last time, their contract consists of this

they signed a 7 LP deal as a group (keyword there is "group") Solo's don't count, EP's don't count and Collections/Greatest Hits don't count.

they have 3 more LP's to do before they fullfil their contract

remember, they signed their 7 LP contact thinkin Eazy was gonna be here

"Posted by: TL
Oh ok tizmisce.  I'll believe you over what Bone said.  I'll also believe that their new CD is untitled, seeing as Layzie Bone was on 106 and park and publically annouced it was going to be called Thug World Order."

Layzie is a dumbass and that's what he wanted the album to be called...As of right now from Krayzie the album is untitled and he has more say then Layzie.

be on the lookout for Thug On Da Line, droppin July 10th. Support Krayzie and Asu (former Outlaw)
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 18, 2001, 10:41:25 PM
I dont see 3 more Bone albums comin out on Ruthless...
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 19, 2001, 02:51:42 PM
Yeah. They are already sick of Ruthless. They should all have solos and put every Bone member in it.
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 20, 2001, 12:22:25 AM
Does anyone like the Bone Enterprise AKA Bone Thugs N Harmony "Faces Of Death" CD when they were kids?
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 20, 2001, 01:33:54 AM
It was wack. There was only one track I kinda like. It was called Son of the Assassins (nice title;D).
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 20, 2001, 02:57:43 PM
It wasn't all that bad...
Title: Re: Bone:  Rest In Peace  1994-1997
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 20, 2001, 07:43:10 PM
Def Dick was an aiight track too.