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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: Money on March 04, 2008, 05:29:24 PM
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Moses was high on drugs: Israeli researcher
Mar 4 07:07 AM US/Eastern
High on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments, an Israeli researcher claimed in a study published this week.
Such mind-altering substances formed an integral part of the religious rites of Israelites in biblical times, Benny Shanon, a professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem wrote in the Time and Mind journal of philosophy.
"As far Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don't believe, or a legend, which I don't believe either, or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effect of narcotics," Shanon told Israeli public radio on Tuesday.
Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush," suggested Shanon, who said he himself has dabbled with such substances.
"The Bible says people see sounds, and that is a clasic phenomenon," he said citing the example of religious ceremonies in the Amazon in which drugs are used that induce people to "see music."
He mentioned his own experience when he used ayahuasca, a powerful psychotropic plant, during a religious ceremony in Brazil's Amazon forest in 1991. "I experienced visions that had spiritual-religious connotations," Shanon said.
He said the psychedelic effects of ayahuasca were comparable to those produced by concoctions based on bark of the acacia tree, that is frequently mentioned in the Bible.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080304120710.ad7gm7i6&show_article=1
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i have a feeling drugs are how most religions were conceived
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i have a feeling drugs are how most religions were conceived
:laugh:
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i have a feeling drugs are how most religions were conceived
So true.
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The guy actually uses for his rationality...
"There's three explanations, and I don't believe two of them. So it must be the third"
Really scientific research there, asshole.
These are the kind of people we have teaching our children. Plus MDogg. Think about this shit. We've got to set up some new criteria for who can actually be a teacher or a professor.
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^^I suppose you'd like them to teach that God created the world 6,000 years ago and dinosaurs are dead demons from hell too, huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/29MobP9lXE0&autoplay=0
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The guy actually uses for his rationality...
"There's three explanations, and I don't believe two of them. So it must be the third"
Really scientific research there, asshole.
That's why there are things called theories. It would be great if we all had a time machine to find out for ourselves, but we don't. Can you scientifically prove Moses wasn't on drugs?
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^^I suppose you'd like them to teach that God created the world 6,000 years ago and dinosaurs are dead demons from hell too, huh?
Pshh........uhh yeah. The Bible proves it.
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i have a feeling drugs are how most religions were conceived
drugs or perceptive disorders, psychoses, etc.
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i have a feeling drugs are how most religions were conceived
drugs or perceptive disorders, psychoses, etc.
an old friend of mine was recently diagnosed as being bi polar and has had hallucinations in the past where she claimed to have seen strange humanlike figures. im sure back in the day any of that could be misconstrued as meeting with god or a religious being.
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Nah...big ups to Moses...peyote, weed, khat, shrooms is all good...peoples been using that your eons for spiritual rituals, it takes you out of your normal frame of mind, expands yo mind, activates areas of the brain otherwise left unused...profound revelations.
People are ignorant fucks without drugs...alot of these evangelical narrow-minded cunts gotta smoke some weed....expand they minds.
Its abuse that is a no no...because then it ain't sacred no more.
Ecstasy, coke, meth I say thats poison, thats all devil shit.
First they trick you, then mentally kill you
And use technologies, to rebuild you
This whole plan was a perfect scam
See that's why they called it, the Six Million Dollar Man
Six is the limitation of the Devil
In the Million square miles of land that he settles
Put you in a three piece suit, give you loot
Chemicals in your head to make you look cute
They use you as a fool to deceive your own people
And fillin' my children head with pins and needles
-RZA, The Birth.
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^I somewhat agree, but E can stimulate parts of your mind that hasn't been used as well...
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... don't like the high, makes me feel like a prancing bunny rabbit fairy.
Coke is awesome tho, but then all you want is more and more and more!! :D
With weed you got demons, but manageable stoner demons.
Word, but to each his own. I don't really get high anymore tho...my minds done enough expanding.
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Going to church is a lot more interesting when you are high..
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...in year 9 me and a homie went to school high! We were all anxious and paranoi on the way to school but when we got there we suddenlly felt chilled, nobody could tell we was high except for the other homies so we sat right up the front with the teacher in history class and shit was absolutely fascinating !!! :) Good times, good times...
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an old friend of mine was recently diagnosed as being bi polar and has had hallucinations in the past where she claimed to have seen strange humanlike figures. im sure back in the day any of that could be misconstrued as meeting with god or a religious being.
Yeah, in fact there are various theories relating religious experiences, epiphanies, etc. to just that type of stuff, and it's quite feasible if you think of it.
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i have a feeling drugs are how most religions were conceived
drugs or perceptive disorders, psychoses, etc.
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Moses is that nigga.
It makes complete sense that back in the day people were ingesting hallucinagens and thinking they were having religious experiences. Like the article says, it still happens today.
Who knows if Moses was stoned off his ass on the mountain or not, but it makes more sense than all the other bullshit Christians try and explain.
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How does acid help you split a sea? ???
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How does acid help you split a sea? ???
i oce saw this guy high on acid trying to climbing a building, fall down. land on his face. and yelling at me he needed help because there were cheetahs drowning in jellly on the roof. i bet splitting a sea is a piece of cake for an acid head.
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How does acid help you split a sea? ???
i oce saw this guy high on acid trying to climbing a building, fall down. land on his face. and yelling at me he needed help because there were cheetahs drowning in jellly on the roof. i bet splitting a sea is a piece of cake for an acid head.
If splitting the sea were a figment of his imagination, wouldn't the Israelites have drowned tryna cross it on some horses? LOL. People are just mad cuz Moses was a G.
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How does acid help you split a sea? ???
i oce saw this guy high on acid trying to climbing a building, fall down. land on his face. and yelling at me he needed help because there were cheetahs drowning in jellly on the roof. i bet splitting a sea is a piece of cake for an acid head.
If splitting the sea were a figment of his imagination, wouldn't the Israelites have drowned tryna cross it? LOL. People are just mad cuz Moses was a G.
lmao. i bet moses could sell sand in a desert, water in an ocean and black pigment to Micheal Jackson.
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How does acid help you split a sea? ???
i oce saw this guy high on acid trying to climbing a building, fall down. land on his face. and yelling at me he needed help because there were cheetahs drowning in jellly on the roof. i bet splitting a sea is a piece of cake for an acid head.
If splitting the sea were a figment of his imagination, wouldn't the Israelites have drowned tryna cross it? LOL. People are just mad cuz Moses was a G.
lmao. i bet moses could sell sand in a desert, water in an ocean and black pigment to Micheal Jackson.
lol.
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How does acid help you split a sea? ???
i oce saw this guy high on acid trying to climbing a building, fall down. land on his face. and yelling at me he needed help because there were cheetahs drowning in jellly on the roof. i bet splitting a sea is a piece of cake for an acid head.
If splitting the sea were a figment of his imagination, wouldn't the Israelites have drowned tryna cross it on some horses?
Obviously. The question is whether you believe that whole story, it's not like there's historical proof of the Israelites crossing the Red Sea on some horses, as far as I know
Receiving the ten commandments, on the other hand, is not irreconcilable with psychedelic drugs (whatever they had back then, obviously not acid). But like I said before, you can imagine shit like that without being high on anything. Actually we all do, it's called dreaming, but some people just experience similar conditions when they're awake
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The only historical reference to Moses *IS* the bible. So you're arguing with people about what is fictional or not in a story that you're saying may be fictional, but representing the 'fictional' character that's the subject of the story as if it's a given that he even existed. LOL