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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: mlk on March 06, 2008, 05:40:06 AM
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Who is the best ?? They both spit fire and can have crazy flow!! croocked i is more gansta and bishop is more conscious with his lyrics so difficult choice!!
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Who is the best ?? They both spit fire and can have crazy flow!! croocked i is more gansta and bishop is more conscious with his lyrics so difficult choice!!
cant really say whos better cause both of them are great...amazing artists. I think Crooked is more complete
Bishop about Crooked:
Dubcnn: Here’s one from Colecovizion. He wants to know what you think of the Crooked I “Hip-Hop Weekly” series…
Man, I love that dude. We were just together at Glasses’ video shoot, and as I’ve always said and keep saying, Crooked is one of the dopest niggas I’ve ever heard. It’s not even about the West Coast, just period, as far as MCs go. It’s crazy that this nigga keeps coming up with fresh shit. I go dry. I got blank and have gotta re-set, fuck with the strip clubs, and just have fun for a minute to be abre to rejuvenate and continue to go hard. It shows why that nigga is who he is, and [he] deserves such a high level and so much more success than he’s getting. Niggas need to recognize how fresh that nigga is. We’ve got some records together too, and we’re gonna do some more. That’s gonna be major!
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I think Crooked has good talent. But he's lyrics are generic. always talking about him being the boss and blahh.. I'm not hating, i love his freestyles. Another thing, Crooked is getting mad love because he's spitting rhymes on classic beats. so that put's him ahead, unfair. Bishop is trying to be original, working with new producers ( Dready Beatz the shit) and he tries to diversify his lyrics.
Agree with me?
Look out for Detox.
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I think Crooked has good talent. But he's lyrics are generic. always talking about him being the boss and blahh.. I'm not hating, i love his freestyles. Another thing, Crooked is getting mad love because he's spitting rhymes on classic beats. so that put's him ahead, unfair. Bishop is trying to be original, working with new producers ( Dready Beatz the shit) and he tries to diversify his lyrics.
Agree with me?
Look out for Detox.
u checked this...Crooked I been here since 96
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would like to see full length albums from both of them to compare. As far as raw MC skill Crooked is probably the best I have heard maybe EVER but I think Bishop may have the capability to craft better overall songs especially with him working with Dre and learning from the best.
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I think Crooked has good talent. But he's lyrics are generic. always talking about him being the boss and blahh.. I'm not hating, i love his freestyles. Another thing, Crooked is getting mad love because he's spitting rhymes on classic beats. so that put's him ahead, unfair. Bishop is trying to be original, working with new producers ( Dready Beatz the shit) and he tries to diversify his lyrics.
Agree with me?
Look out for Detox.
Yeah your right i guess ! i think bishop is more universal ! croocked i is more westcoast oriented of course i like it but i think bishop can touch both the east and west listeners!
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I think Crooked has good talent. But he's lyrics are generic. always talking about him being the boss and blahh.. I'm not hating, i love his freestyles. Another thing, Crooked is getting mad love because he's spitting rhymes on classic beats. so that put's him ahead, unfair. Bishop is trying to be original, working with new producers ( Dready Beatz the shit) and he tries to diversify his lyrics.
Agree with me?
Look out for Detox.
Yeah your right i guess ! i think bishop is more universal ! croocked i is more westcoast oriented of course i like it but i think bishop can touch both the east and west listeners!
We will judge all tha when albums drop. But lets face it, Bishop has so much dudes arround him ,dont get me wrong HE DESERVES CREW LIKE THAT to help him evolve, he has AFTERMATH ,Dr Dre, Focus, Busta Rhymes, Dj Kahlil, Notzz,...just check his Pope Mobile and NNoize production crew,big rap stars dont have those dudes on albums cause they cant afford it. he has people that can make him BIG! Crooked is grindin on his own, with dudes like Jim Gittum and Komplex producin his mixtapes....u kno what im sayin, dude been grindin since 1996.
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I think Crooked has good talent. But he's lyrics are generic. always talking about him being the boss and blahh.. I'm not hating, i love his freestyles. Another thing, Crooked is getting mad love because he's spitting rhymes on classic beats. so that put's him ahead, unfair. Bishop is trying to be original, working with new producers ( Dready Beatz the shit) and he tries to diversify his lyrics.
Agree with me?
Look out for Detox.
Yeah your right i guess ! i think bishop is more universal ! croocked i is more westcoast oriented of course i like it but i think bishop can touch both the east and west listeners!
I must say : Bishop repps the West as hard as Crooked ...just that Crooked be yellin out west and cali in all the tracks, bishop'S got other ways of showing his affiliation: for example, choice of some of the beats.
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I think Crooked has good talent. But he's lyrics are generic. always talking about him being the boss and blahh.. I'm not hating, i love his freestyles. Another thing, Crooked is getting mad love because he's spitting rhymes on classic beats. so that put's him ahead, unfair. Bishop is trying to be original, working with new producers ( Dready Beatz the shit) and he tries to diversify his lyrics.
Agree with me?
Look out for Detox.
u checked this...Crooked I been here since 96
Just for the record, i'm not here to pick fights alright ? :P But who cares if he'S been around since 96... i havent heard anything hot from Crooked I back in the deathrow days. You gotta admit his hiphop weekly's been gettin him the attention, nothing else.
But like i said, I'm not trying to pick fights aright?
Nothing but love baby. haha
Look out for Detox.
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I think Crooked has good talent. But he's lyrics are generic. always talking about him being the boss and blahh.. I'm not hating, i love his freestyles. Another thing, Crooked is getting mad love because he's spitting rhymes on classic beats. so that put's him ahead, unfair. Bishop is trying to be original, working with new producers ( Dready Beatz the shit) and he tries to diversify his lyrics.
Agree with me?
Look out for Detox.
u checked this...Crooked I been here since 96
Just for the record, i'm not here to pick fights alright ? :P But who cares if he'S been around since 96... i havent heard anything hot from Crooked I back in the deathrow days. You gotta admit his hiphop weekly's been gettin him the attention, nothing else.
But like i said, I'm not trying to pick fights aright?
Nothing but love baby. haha
Look out for Detox.
Im not a dude who would pick a fight here on this internet shit lol. I dont like to pick fights anywhere. We are all here to chat about music and this is the best place for it. Nuttin but love for this whole community here.
We just speakin our mind, i respect other peoples oppinions, no doubt about that bro. Ofcourse imma be on lookout for Detox, who wont!!!
U should check theese Crook songs from before weeklys era bro, those are great cutz everybody likes.
Girl
Rap Killers
Uh Oh
Murdering MC's
Baby RMX
Nobody Understands Me (ft. Erikah Badu)
Ride Wit A G
Gangstaology....
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As much as I like Bishop, Crooked I is in his own league. He's probably the most complete MC on the West, he's an idiot for not releasing an album though.
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lmao bishop lamont isnt even that good - and no where near crookeds level
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Those are my two favorites right now, ain't gonna pick favorite. Besides they are so different like you people said, other is in major and with beatmachines, other is independant and in his own company.
I'm really surprised why Crooked haven't released an album yet, he could have three by now. Maybe he wanted to build his own kind hype before, I really hope that he will release that B.O.S.S this year, it could be crazy year...
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Bishop is tight as hell and im a fan BUT he's waaaay overrated by many here. Crooked I got this.
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Bishop is better imo
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Crooked I
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Bishop Lamont is good, but very overrated by the people on this forum. Crooked I is probably overrated by yours truly.
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I'm going with Bishop Lamont. Damn, that's my boy. I can't wait for that debut album, I feel like the second ''The Documentary'' is coming, maybe the biggest? We will see...
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As much as I like Bishop, Crooked I is in his own league. He's probably the most complete MC on the West, he's an idiot for not releasing an album though.
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Crooked I is a Lyrical gangsta Rapper, Bishop is the WEst Coast Lupe Fiasco Nerd trynna be Hard.....
Both will never drop thou...
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Never understood the buzz behind Bishop, I tried so many times to get into his music and finally just gave up cause I just wasn't digging it. Crook on the other hand... Dude is crazy with the rhymes and insanely versatile. 8)
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I think Crooked has good talent. But he's lyrics are generic. always talking about him being the boss and blahh.. I'm not hating, i love his freestyles. Another thing, Crooked is getting mad love because he's spitting rhymes on classic beats. so that put's him ahead, unfair. Bishop is trying to be original, working with new producers ( Dready Beatz the shit) and he tries to diversify his lyrics.
Agree with me?
Look out for Detox.
Yeah your right i guess ! i think bishop is more universal ! croocked i is more westcoast oriented of course i like it but i think bishop can touch both the east and west listeners!
We will judge all that when albums drop. But lets face it, Bishop has so much dudes arround him ,dont get me wrong HE DESERVES CREW LIKE THAT to help him evolve, he has AFTERMATH ,Dr Dre, Focus, Busta Rhymes, Dj Kahlil, Notzz,...just check his Pope Mobile and NNoize production crew,big rap stars dont have those dudes on albums cause they cant afford it. he has people that can make him BIG! Crooked is grindin on his own, with dudes like Jim Gittum and Komplex producin his mixtapes....u kno what im sayin, dude been grindin since 1996.
I agree man, imagine if Crooked had that support?
I guess it's alright to dream. lol
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As much as I like Bishop, Crooked I is in his own league. He's probably the most complete MC on the West, he's an idiot for not releasing an album though.
lol yessir.
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Never understood the buzz behind Bishop, I tried so many times to get into his music and finally just gave up cause I just wasn't digging it. Crook on the other hand... Dude is crazy with the rhymes and insanely versatile. 8)
Yea, me neither, he's not bad, just not my style I guess.
The only song I liked of his was that Wartime is Now with Thug Life, but that was a couple years back.
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Crooked I 8)
I can't get into Bishop either I tried listening to his mixtapes but not feeling his style
dude got skills no doubt tho
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yeah i definitely gotta go with Crooked here, Bishop is dope but Crooked is a top quality mc imo..for a dope death row era track check out G'd Up N Banged Out..thats a real westcoast banger there with Big Hutch doing the beat..only wish the quality we have it in was cdq
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I like both artists. I agree with Meho about Crooked I being in his own league as a complete MC. It's been more of a curse than a blessing for him in terms of attaining success. As fucked up as it sounds, he's almost too lyrical at times. Especially back in the 19th Street and Sway & Tech compilation days, he was just annihilating everything he ever appeared on. In a way I think it closed some doors on him because of it. Hopefully he sees some kind of success with B.O.S.S.
Oh yeah, Snoop & Crooked I need to squash it and make some hits together.
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Bishop aint nothing like westcoast, he is more like a homo coast rapper... lil NErd ass nigga, he sounds like he forces himself to swear just to get noticed. He aint shit..ANd the worst thing is that he is signed to a hoe ass nigga Dr Dre, that was never a G, never smoked weed or did any of the shit he talked about,HIm, White bitch and Snitch are all sitting in the room, trynna hide from the public coz they are scared to come out....
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Bishop aint nothing like westcoast, he is more like a homo coast rapper... lil NErd ass nigga, he sounds like he forces himself to swear just to get noticed. He aint shit..ANd the worst thing is that he is signed to a hoe ass nigga Dr Dre, that was never a G, never smoked weed or did any of the shit he talked about,HIm, White bitch and Snitch are all sitting in the room, trynna hide from the public coz they are scared to come out....
Uh oh...lol
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Both!!!
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man both of them is dope!!!!!!!!!
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Bishop aint nothing like westcoast, he is more like a homo coast rapper... lil NErd ass nigga, he sounds like he forces himself to swear just to get noticed. He aint shit..ANd the worst thing is that he is signed to a hoe ass nigga Dr Dre, that was never a G, never smoked weed or did any of the shit he talked about,HIm, White bitch and Snitch are all sitting in the room, trynna hide from the public coz they are scared to come out....
Uh oh...lol
LOL agree with you J*Bel... Uh oh...
Hey J: why are all these people hating on Dre. They know that they're gonna love detox when it drops, they KNOW it. So Why the HATE?
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Crooked I VS Bishop Lamont
I'd rather see
Crooked I FEAT Bishop Lamont
or
Bishop Lamont FEAT Crooked I
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Lmao same here.
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Bishop aint nothing like westcoast, he is more like a homo coast rapper... lil NErd ass nigga, he sounds like he forces himself to swear just to get noticed. He aint shit..ANd the worst thing is that he is signed to a hoe ass nigga Dr Dre, that was never a G, never smoked weed or did any of the shit he talked about,HIm, White bitch and Snitch are all sitting in the room, trynna hide from the public coz they are scared to come out....
Uh oh...lol
LOL agree with you J*Bel... Uh oh...
Hey J: why are all these people hating on Dre. They know that they're gonna love detox when it drops, they KNOW it. So Why the HATE?
Cuz they hate a rapper that doesn't smoke weed I guess. It's very common for potheads to hate that kinda shit. lol
I guess they hate how he works with Eminem over Snoop and DPG.
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Crooked I.
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Bishop aint nothing like westcoast, he is more like a homo coast rapper... lil NErd ass nigga, he sounds like he forces himself to swear just to get noticed. He aint shit..ANd the worst thing is that he is signed to a hoe ass nigga Dr Dre, that was never a G, never smoked weed or did any of the shit he talked about,HIm, White bitch and Snitch are all sitting in the room, trynna hide from the public coz they are scared to come out....
Uh oh...lol
LOL agree with you J*Bel... Uh oh...
Hey J: why are all these people hating on Dre. They know that they're gonna love detox when it drops, they KNOW it. So Why the HATE?
Cuz they hate a rapper that doesn't smoke weed I guess. It's very common for potheads to hate that kinda shit. lol
I guess they hate how he works with Eminem over Snoop and DPG.
Guess your right...but i mean they still collabo, i just guess it wont be as frequent cause they aint on the same label anymore, but im sure it's gonna be nothing but love on detox, the whole gang baby. haha Besides they shouldn't hate on eminem. He's dre's lablemate which is why he gets more of dre production.
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Well the No Stoppin Carson song.
Who rapped it better.
Bishop or Crooked?
You tell me?
I liked the Crooked Icon version better.
by Crooked
http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2007/october/crooked_i-no_stoppin_carson_freestyle-(dubcnn).mp3
by Bishop
http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2007/september/bishop_lamont-no_stoppin_carson_prod_by_dr_dre-(dubcnn).mp3
You decide 8)
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I think Crooked has good talent. But he's lyrics are generic. always talking about him being the boss and blahh.. I'm not hating, i love his freestyles. Another thing, Crooked is getting mad love because he's spitting rhymes on classic beats. so that put's him ahead, unfair. Bishop is trying to be original, working with new producers ( Dready Beatz the shit) and he tries to diversify his lyrics.
Agree with me?
Look out for Detox.
crookeds done his own thing over other peoples beats for 10 years before HHW ever existed
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Crooked I VS Bishop Lamont
I'd rather see
Crooked I FEAT Bishop Lamont
or
Bishop Lamont FEAT Crooked I
No doubt, but ain't nothing wrong with having a comparison discussion... As much as I'm not a big Bishop fan, it's always good to see unity between West Coast artists instead of all the beefing we're accustomed to.
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1st one to drop an official album wins. ;) I like them both but Crooked has a better overall mic presence. There's a reason why people have been anxiously awaiting for him to drop an album for years. Unfortunately his buzz isn't going to be as big in the mainstream because he doesn't have the same machine behind him that Bishop does. When they drop Bishop is more likely going to reach more people and have a better produced product from top to bottom.