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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Meho on March 10, 2008, 08:02:31 AM
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Lol at Busta realising all this now, it was so obvious:
Busta Rhymes' The Big Bang was acclaimed as a sure-shot artistic favorite by fans and critics, so why did it underperform at stores after so much hype? Busta admits that the follow-through after "Touch It" was lacking. He said after all the hype about him joining forces with Dr. Dre, he figured the fans wanted to hear a record by the two of them as a single.
"I think that The Big Bang was my best album, overall," Busta started. "Out of all of my albums, that was my best body of work in one project, to me, from top to bottom. I don't really feel like there's anything that I wanted to do to regroup or change the situation. I just think that that album came out in a time where the transition was happening, in terms of just how the game is fluctuating right now. And I also feel like the single after 'Touch It,' you know, people waited three years to see that Big Bang album happen, so I think people were really looking forward to seeing a Busta Rhymes-produced-by-Dr.-Dre single. Especially after the 'Touch It' record and how big that was."
The problem, according to Bus, was actually him. Turns out he had a feeling about pushing "I Love My Chick" as the next single. He liked the song, just not as a follow-up to the Swizz Beatz smash that kicked off the album. But when the suits at the label suggested it be the next single, Bus graciously relented. Not this time with Back on My Bullsh--, he says.
"If you feel the slightest reluctance to do something, even if being a team player might mean compromising, don't compromise in the way that you're gonna have to live to regret," Busta said. "And that's creatively. [So] for me, I will never allow that process to happen in that way again. So I don't live with regret, because I learned from it." ...
mtv.com
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"If you feel the slightest reluctance to do something, even if being a team player might mean compromising, don't compromise in the way that you're gonna have to live to regret," Busta said. "And that's creatively. [So] for me, I will never allow that process to happen in that way again. So I don't live with regret, because I learned from it." ... [/i]
no it's either compromising or leave interscope.
dre single or not, he's not Eminem or 50 cent. besides, he would have never gotten a track like Break ya neck as a single for the Big Bang anyway.
so it can only get worse with back on my bs( Pharrel ::) ); the Big Bang was the best possible with interscope for Busta Rhymes.
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:laugh:
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...Well u Live and Learn..Can't wait on the enxt album!
Big Bang Theory was a Dope Album..I hated 'Touch It' though... :-X :-X :-X
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I love my Chick was a good single... it still gets play on tv sometimes.
What Dre track would have done well? I guess the one with Missy would have smashed the clubs
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If it were up to me I'd do it like this:
Street single: Get You Some
1ST single: Over Here or Don't Get Carried Away
2nd single: Been Through The Storm (everybody I know loves this track, rap fans or not)
3rd Touch It
4th many choices, can't decide for one
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the choices of the different singles for the Big Bang were easily the worst EVER for a mainstream album ...
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"Get You Some" should have been the next single after "Touch it". What a monster beat! I still bump the album. It was one of the best releases in 06. Fuck the sales.
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...Well u Live and Learn
true, but in some cases there is no 2nd chance, so Busta needs to face reality.
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touch it was a perfect way to kick off the album, and it did its purpose, it blew up, it was innovative and everyone done there bit on that, everyone was on that beat, people were pumped up after that but then he dropped i love my chick...a generic single...not a good idea....
He should have went with
1st single...street/club buzz joint = touch it
Single before the album drops = The dre beat that had missy on it, she came goo, busta came good, the beat was nice, it would have blown the clubs up, bitches and niggaz would have been feeling that....biggest mistake of the album was not releasing this joint, it had huge potential single wise
then he could have went with anything really ...though as dope as get you some is, its not a video/single material song...it could be the other joint when you release the single but i wouldnt expect this ever to be a single
pz
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some of y'all actin like the album flopped
i know we expect more from busta sales wise, but didn't it move like 700K?
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Yer and he sold well world wide as well due to the popularity of Touch It and I Love my chick. Plus he did that song wit Pussycat dolls which helped raise his profile
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Yeah, I think 'Touch It' did it's thang. The remix's and everythang included, I STILL love that shit. Real hype.
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Yeah, I think 'Touch It' did it's thang. The remix's and everythang included, I STILL love that shit. Real hype.
yes sir and thats why i think the missy joint should have followed, that was hella hype and then the club joint with the girl on it too and its a dre beat, it would have blown up everywhere
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Yeah, I think 'Touch It' did it's thang. The remix's and everythang included, I STILL love that shit. Real hype.
yes sir and thats why i think the missy joint should have followed, that was hella hype and then the club joint with the girl on it too and its a dre beat, it would have blown up everywhere
Damn, he woulda had the clubs on lock, LMAO.
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But that Over Here joint was basically Candy Shop part 2. Indian influenced type of beat, smooth basslin, both 50 and Busta had the same lazy aka seductive flow, the only thing better was the hook because the hook on Candy Shop was plain corny. So don't you think Busta would get hate for putting out a track like that ? I like Candy Shop (minus the chours) and I also like Over Here but many people don't, unless there would be double standards....
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Yeah, I think 'Touch It' did it's thang. The remix's and everythang included, I STILL love that shit. Real hype.
yes sir and thats why i think the missy joint should have followed, that was hella hype and then the club joint with the girl on it too and its a dre beat, it would have blown up everywhere
Damn, he woulda had the clubs on lock, LMAO.
yes sir and thats why i do not understand what the fuck the people at interscope are doing.
I mean if you aftermath, u already got a little buzz....then if u a legend on aftermath your buzz is big, then u name your album the big bang!...your buzz just done got bigger...than u drop touch it with all those crazy remixes and videos, you gotta crazy ass buzz, now all you need is something next to get the club on lock and please everyone else aswell by making sure its a dre joint....and then u gotta perfect club joint thats got dre on the beat, busta killin it and then u add missy on it too...your shit is guarenteed to have the clubs on lock...instead they go with love my bitch and pop the baloon, fucked up,lol
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But that Over Here joint was basically Candy Shop part 2. Indian influenced type of beat, smooth basslin, both 50 and Busta had the same lazy aka seductive flow, the only thing better was the hook because the hook on Candy Shop was plain corny. So don't you think Busta would get hate for putting out a track like that ? I like Candy Shop (minus the chours) and I also like Over Here but many people don't, unless there would be double standards....
i disagree to a certain extent, i think candy shop is alot cornier and i think busta is okay with putting out club shit, his done it his whole career....50 put himself in a corner with the jarule mocking about his jams and then releasing candy shop...i see what you saying, there may be some shit that is similar but i think it doesnt matter if he also had an indian type of beat i think the busta joint was alot better...yes commercial but imo it was perfect for the clubs...
pz
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Yeah, I think 'Touch It' did it's thang. The remix's and everythang included, I STILL love that shit. Real hype.
yes sir and thats why i think the missy joint should have followed, that was hella hype and then the club joint with the girl on it too and its a dre beat, it would have blown up everywhere
Damn, he woulda had the clubs on lock, LMAO.
yes sir and thats why i do not understand what the fuck the people at interscope are doing.
I mean if you aftermath, u already got a little buzz....then if u a legend on aftermath your buzz is big, then u name your album the big bang!...your buzz just done got bigger...than u drop touch it with all those crazy remixes and videos, you gotta crazy ass buzz, now all you need is something next to get the club on lock and please everyone else aswell by making sure its a dre joint....and then u gotta perfect club joint thats got dre on the beat, busta killin it and then u add missy on it too...your shit is guarenteed to have the clubs on lock...instead they go with love my bitch and pop the baloon, fucked up,lol
I hear you. That 'I Love My Chick' joint is embarrassing. :-\
But that Over Here joint was basically Candy Shop part 2. Indian influenced type of beat, smooth basslin, both 50 and Busta had the same lazy aka seductive flow, the only thing better was the hook because the hook on Candy Shop was plain corny. So don't you think Busta would get hate for putting out a track like that ? I like Candy Shop (minus the chours) and I also like Over Here but many people don't, unless there would be double standards....
If Busta had his wild flow on the track, that shit woulda been like that crazy classic Busta and people would be dumb as fuck to hate, but since it ain't like that, maybe you right.
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if busta would of scrapped like 2-3 songs off that shit, woulda been CLASSIC
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Nah, then it would be short. It just needs 1 or 2 more songs though.. I put his joint with ODB (Where's Your Money) and the other Nas one on my version though... great album 8)
Yeah, Busta could've went harder on Over Here, but the beat and hook alone would have carried it. It's not like people would call him out on being wack - he already smashed Touch It.
Street Single = Touch It (no vid)
Lead Single = Touch It Remix
Second Single = Over Here/Get You Some double vid
Third Single = I Love My Bitch
Fourth Single = Been Through the Storm with Stevie in the vid
The guy dropped four vids anyway - In the Ghetto is a good song, but Been Through the Storm would have been much better. Maybe he shouldn't have made a vid for the original Touch It - noone bothered listening/playing it after the remixes dropped.
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he sold 200K first week...he did fine....
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touch it was a perfect way to kick off the album, and it did its purpose, it blew up, it was innovative and everyone done there bit on that, everyone was on that beat, people were pumped up after that but then he dropped i love my chick...a generic single...not a good idea....
He should have went with
1st single...street/club buzz joint = touch it
Single before the album drops = The dre beat that had missy on it, she came goo, busta came good, the beat was nice, it would have blown the clubs up, bitches and niggaz would have been feeling that....biggest mistake of the album was not releasing this joint, it had huge potential single wise
then he could have went with anything really ...though as dope as get you some is, its not a video/single material song...it could be the other joint when you release the single but i wouldnt expect this ever to be a single
pz
agree with everything you said man, exactly on point
and I was happy with the album the way it was, I love my bitch was irritating, but with where's your money, the other joint with nas, and prob the joint with biggie (did the full version leak btw) + imagine it would've been way better
Oh and busta doing his old style on Over Here joint would of been CLASSSIC.the way it was released is just dope
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I still bump the album. It was one of the best releases in 06. Fuck the sales.
Yep, but Busta must have been pissed nonetheless.
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Nah, then it would be short. It just needs 1 or 2 more songs though.. I put his joint with ODB (Where's Your Money) and the other Nas one on my version though... great album 8)
Yeah, Busta could've went harder on Over Here, but the beat and hook alone would have carried it. It's not like people would call him out on being wack - he already smashed Touch It.
Street Single = Touch It (no vid)
Lead Single = Touch It Remix
Second Single = Over Here/Get You Some double vid
Third Single = I Love My Bitch
Fourth Single = Been Through the Storm with Stevie in the vid
The guy dropped four vids anyway - In the Ghetto is a good song, but Been Through the Storm would have been much better. Maybe he shouldn't have made a vid for the original Touch It - noone bothered listening/playing it after the remixes dropped.
Yeah i added Wheres your Money with ODB and For the nasty with Q-Tip. I still bump this cd frequently.
Alot of people were hating on "I'll Do It All" but i thought that beat was off the chain. It was pretty dope for a love song. 8)
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