West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: mlk on March 17, 2008, 04:41:52 AM
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I think classic album are dead , i think 2001 was the last one ! My defintion of a classic ? It's an album with no fillers that u can listen 10 years after and it's still good. Dope rhymes great beats an equal album start to the end. I think nowadays nobody can do that ! This is some reason ! first everybody want to have a club banger as a single everybody as the same producer on their album every body want to have a great single for the club a song for the lady a song for the ghetto ( for the street cred). Every body use the same formula. Don't get me wrong we have very good album some classics song some very good rappers but as far as classic album :-\
Many people think Dre will come with another one time will tell!!
It's just my opinion !! ;)
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There has been classic albums released after 2001. Look harder.
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I don't see them i agree that good ones but i can't name an album that i can listen start to the end since 2001 but as far as classic i'm still waitin'. And when i say classic i don't speak about westcoast or eastcoast classic !!i speak a real clasiic album no matter where it's from
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That CD I don't skip a single track.
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Depends what you mean by classic, there have been some 'modern' classics, but if you put up the golden age as the peak, then nothing has been classic since like 1996
2001 is a great album, but it's not in the league of Chronic, Doggystyle, 36 Chambers, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation, Paid In Full, etc etc, and so if you call 2001 a classic it kind of takes away from the 'real' classics
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Be?
College Dropout?
The Blueprint?
Food & Liquor?
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Depends what you mean by classic, there have been some 'modern' classics, but if you put up the golden age as the peak, then nothing has been classic since like 1996
2001 is a great album, but it's not in the league of Chronic, Doggystyle, 36 Chambers, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation, Paid In Full, etc etc, and so if you call 2001 a classic it kind of takes away from the 'real' classics
yeah i mean more like golden age classic and 2001 isn't like doggystyle... but to me 2001 it's not so far when u look at the quality of the album nowadays! . But i'm agree there have been some greats album or "modern classic" if u prefer
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In my opinion there are some fillers in 2001 and there is still "classic" albums, just harder to find.
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Depends what you mean by classic, there have been some 'modern' classics, but if you put up the golden age as the peak, then nothing has been classic since like 1996
2001 is a great album, but it's not in the league of Chronic, Doggystyle, 36 Chambers, Illmatic, It Takes A Nation, Paid In Full, etc etc, and so if you call 2001 a classic it kind of takes away from the 'real' classics
yeah i mean more like golden age classic and 2001 isn't like doggystyle... but to me 2001 it's not so far when u look at the quality of the album nowadays! . But i'm agree there have been some greats album or "modern classic" if u prefer
good album but not classic to me even TI is a good rapper im not fan of his music
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Classic albums still excit... but in the past a lot more dope material dropped ...
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Be?
Dull and overrated
College Dropout?
Pop-rap for rock fans who only like hiphop if it's not about violence (but can't tell a dope beat/rhyme if they were smacked round the head with one)
The Blueprint?
Hugely overrated album from the most overrated MC in the game (besides lil wayne), who still hasn't made a classic (and no, Reasonable Doubt is not a classic, it has mostly filler beats and a load of wack pop/r&b choruses)
Food & Liquor?
If that's classic then all underground/backpacker releases of the last 10 years are classics
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Stillmatic.
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Stillmatic.
Speak on it my man
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This cd has classic written all over it.
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Stillmatic.
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This cd has classic written all over it.
Lol
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Some of the album u listed are good album but don't put your favorite album or fzvorite rapper in the classic range!! And like some peaople said Jay z s overrated it's a good rapper no doubt proabably the best on the eastcoast but i prefer nas and none of his album to me is a classic Of course they are very good album !
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Some of the album u listed are good album but don't put your favorite album or fzvorite rapper in the classic range!! And like some peaople said Jay z s overrated it's a good rapper no doubt proabably the best on the eastcoast but i prefer nas and none of his album to me is a classic Of course they are very good album !
Nas has 3 classics IMO, Illmatic, Stillmatic and It Was Written. You can debate 2 of them but to deny Illmatic classic status is really a hard argument, It is probably the best hip hop album of all time at least in the top 5. I'm not a fan of Jay but I think his first album is a borderline classic. I do agree with him being overrated though especially here on the east coast.
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Messy Marv - Bandanna's, Tattoo's & Tomgue Rings = Classic
Roscoe - I Luv Cali = Classic
Snoop Dogg - Paid Tha Cost To Be Da Bo$$ = like a personal classic to me
If you like Hyphy like I do, Mistah F.A.B.'s "Da Baydestrian" can be considered a hyphy classic
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WHAT ABOUT GAMES FIRST ALBUM? IT IS A CLASSIC
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Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
Scarface - The Fix
Lupe Fiasco - Food and Liquor
Common - Be
Eminem - MMLP
Theres a lot its just old cats from the 90s hate on the newer stuff cause the sounds changed.
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Scarface - The Fix
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Masta Ace- Disposable Arts & Long Hot Summer
two of the best hiphop albums ever released in my opinion,
AlerG
MicLordz & Sauce Funky
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Oh and to whoever said 'It Was Written' is a classic is dead on, I couldn't agree with you more. I personally think it's one of the most underrated hiphop albums as well. Also, Reasonable Doubt is a near classic, some days i think so, some i don't...but Jay-Z is terribly overrated and Lil Wayne is mediocre on his good days,
AlerG
MicLordz & Sauce Funky
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Snoop Dogg last meal
The Game Documentary
The Game Doctors Advocate
Ice Cube Laugh now
WC Guilty by Affiliation
Dj QUIK Rhythm-al-ism
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Snoop Dogg last meal=hell nah, bct was way better but not a classik
The Game Documentary=maybe a classik???
The Game Doctors Advocate=definately not a classik
Ice Cube Laugh now=are you serious?
WC Guilty by Affiliation=strong album
Dj QUIK Rhythm-al-ism=havent heard
wit that said your favorite albums mite be classiks in your opinion but aint....i think Yukmouth Godzilla album a classik but i aint gon say is a classik
2001 is definatly a classik
Tech N9ne "Everready" definatly a classik
Andre Nikatina "the Diqualari factory: Kokane raps voll. 2" A fucking classik
^^^^lisnen to the above albums more than once and you kno that they classiks
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Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
Scarface - The Fix
Lupe Fiasco - Food and Liquor
Common - Be
Eminem - MMLP
Clipse album was ill, and Em's MMLP was at least something different with the whole zany vibe he had, though I'd still separate them from the golden era classics, they're really, really dope albums rather than classics
Theres a lot its just old cats from the 90s hate on the newer stuff cause the sounds changed.
It's not that the sounds changed, it's just that it's so much harder to innovate nowadays because so much shit has been done already, and as well a lot of the those early 90s albums were front to back bangers all the way through, while lots of shit nowadays has soooo much filler on it
Masta Ace- Disposable Arts & Long Hot Summer
two of the best hiphop albums ever released in my opinion,
Co-sign, I could probably agree on those
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Eminem had a few classics
Game too
not too many overall tho I agree
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two back to back classics 8)
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That CD I don't skip a single track.
Thank U, I'll try that. I think classic album need sales too. So I think the last classic album on the West Coast was The Documentary. Who's going with me?
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Im just having a couple of thoughts here.
Is it necessary to separate "golden era classics" and "non-golden era classics" or "modern classics" or whatever. I mean, classic album is a classic album yeh? Take a classic from -96 and a classic from 2000andsomething, the fact that the other one was made earlier, in the "golden era", doesnt make the other album any worse or "less classic" am I right? Just started to think about this when UCC said Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP is a "really, really dope album but not a classic" because it was not made in the "golden era" (no offence to UCC, just want to know what other people think about this term-thing).
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Im just having a couple of thoughts here.
Is it necessary to separate "golden era classics" and "non-golden era classics" or "modern classics" or whatever. I mean, classic album is a classic album yeh?
Yes, it is necessary to separate them. Some albums have more things that make them a classic than others. A lot of the new stuff might be as good just in the way it sounds but loses out in categories like innovation and influence. If we call them all classics then it makes the significance of the 'real' classics lower - the term classic should refer to an elite group of albums, otherwise if we include every album that is just real dope then there are millions of 'classics'
Take a classic from -96 and a classic from 2000andsomething, the fact that the other one was made earlier, in the "golden era", doesnt make the other album any worse or "less classic" am I right?
Golden era classics aren't classics just because they are from the golden era... it's the other way around - it is called the golden era because there were so many classics in it!
Being made earlier doesn't make any difference, it's just by 96 a lot of stuff had already been done, so it was harder to be really innovative (as well stuff generally started to fall off)
Just started to think about this when UCC said Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP is a "really, really dope album but not a classic" because it was not made in the "golden era" (no offence to UCC, just want to know what other people think about this term-thing).
It's not that it wasn't made in the golden era, it's because it doesn't have a lot of the qualities golden era albums have - innovation, a cohesive overall sound (usually from using one producer or producers using similar styles), etc etc etc
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I don't see them i agree that good ones but i can't name an album that i can listen start to the end since 2001 but as far as classic i'm still waitin'. And when i say classic i don't speak about westcoast or eastcoast classic !!i speak a real clasiic album no matter where it's from
so name another classic album besides a west coast album,or east coast big name album,cause everybody got they own opinion of a classic,cause it's shit on 2001 i skip but shit is still a classic,same with ready to die,400 degrees and illmatic yell