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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: GangstaBoogy on March 17, 2008, 07:00:00 PM
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At the start of the season the candidates (in order if I recall correctly) were: Garnett, D.Howard, Lebron, Kobe, CP3. Obviously early season predictions are based on the first few games and unfortunately personal opinions (hints Kobe being 4th).
Now that we're 60+ games in we can really see who's a legit candidate and who's now. So here's how I see it...
5. Dwight Howard
He got early MVP consideration because of how well the Magic played on the road. They're still a good team and he's having another great season but I just don't think he's worthy of MVP honors just yet.
4. Lebron James
So he should get the MVP because he's a superstar putting up great numbers and carrying a weak team to the playoffs? I just described 2006 Kobe. If he couldn't win it for carrying that weak ass team to the playoffs in the West with that legendary season then no one can Lebron be in the conversation. 8 games over .500 in the East is NOT worthy.
3. Kevin Garnett
Yes his team has the best record in the league. But here's what you have to keep in mind: 3 guys from the Celtics made the All-Star team this year, they went 7-2 without him (then lost the next 3 when he came back), and they have seasoned veterans like James Posey, PJ Brown, and Sam Cassell on their bench. Take any 1 of their big 3 off the team and you still have an elite team (especially in the east).
Teams 1-8 in the East are separated by 24.5 games. Teams 1-9 in the West are separated by 6 games! That pretty much means that the MVP HAS to come from the West.
2. Chris Paul
This guy is simply amazing. 20 points, 10 assists, and 2 steals a game while leading a team that really no one expected to make the playoffs to the top of the West (in the toughest division) is definitely MVP worthy. Only reason I say he shouldn't win it is because...
1. Kobe Bryant
We've seen him somehow manage to improve on his game EVERY single season. He's been the best in the league since Jordan walked out of Utah holding up his 6th championship trophy. We've seen him do things that haven't been done since Chamberlain was around. This year he's back and he added the final missing ingredient to his repertoire: maturity. He's a better leader, a better teammate, he's trusting his bench guys down the clutch, and he's playing beautiful team ball. Unfortunately his teammates can't stay healthy but he's been penalized enough for his teammates faults. This has to be his year.
Agree? Disagree? Post your list.
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That's just about right.
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Kobe should get it, but knowing the league they'll probably give it to Paul, not tryin to knock dude though he's been amazing
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If Kobe doesn't get it this year, that means he'll never get it...the people who vote on the award simply don't like the guy. I mean, how many articles have you read tryna discredit Kobe? These same guys writing that shit are the punks voting for MVP. I don't see how you can vote for a guy you don't wanna see succeeding? I'm gunna go out on a limb and say that Kobe probably isn't getting it... :-\
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its going to come down to Lebron and Kobe
but the best player in basketball is in San Antonio
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but the best player in basketball is in San Antonio
Duncan's old ass is past his prime. Kevin Garnett>Tim Duncan
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Paul needs to pay his dues... if he's this dope another season, then he should be a top choice.
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If Kobe doesn't get it this year, that means he'll never get it...the people who vote on the award simply don't like the guy. I mean, how many articles have you read tryna discredit Kobe? These same guys writing that shit are the punks voting for MVP. I don't see how you can vote for a guy you don't wanna see succeeding? I'm gunna go out on a limb and say that Kobe probably isn't getting it... :-\
I feel you but I have a strange feeling things might change this year. Hell if he's already got Charles Barkley and Jon Barry on his nuts, that right there is an accomplishment in itself.
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but the best player in basketball is in San Antonio
Duncan's old ass is past his prime. Kevin Garnett>Tim Duncan
I can not agree with that statement. Atleast until KG has a ring (or Duncan breaks his spine)
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but the best player in basketball is in San Antonio
Duncan's old ass is past his prime. Kevin Garnett>Tim Duncan
I can not agree with that statement. Atleast until KG has a ring (or Duncan breaks his spine)
KG is a better player...Duncan is great, even if he is past his prime.. but KG would have just as many rings (if not more) in his shoes.
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first order of business
fuck both duncan and garnett, but Duncan>>>Garnett. timmy might be past his prime and garnett maybe still playing in his, BUT. i'd choose an over the hill duncan (as of right now) than garnett. Garnett needs other players (sam cassell, spree, allen, peirce) to be successful, where as timmy is the one who's makin' his players the de facto every year.
and yes i'd have to agree that i think it's going to come down to kobe and Paul. ultimately cuz i don't think the rockets will hold on to that top seed for much longe( as a matter of fact looking at the standing right now the lakers SHOULD be the top seed now cuz of the division record/confr record , ect) . and 1 and 2 will be the lakers and new orleans by the time the season ends. and IMO i think the MVP should go to the leader of the team that gets that top spot.
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first order of business
fuck both duncan and garnett, but Duncan>>>Garnett. timmy might be past his prime and garnett maybe still playing in his, BUT. i'd choose an over the hill duncan (as of right now) than garnett. Garnett needs other players (sam cassell, spree, allen, peirce) to be successful, where as timmy is the one who's makin' his players the de facto every year.
You make no sense...Duncan needs other players (David Robinson, Sean Elliot, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobli) as well...LOL. EVERY star needs a strong supporting cast to do some damage.
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well i'll try to make more sense.
Garnett needs OTHER leaders. every successful player needs a supporting cast , a strong one at that. i'm not denying that. but notice that the only winning teams garnett has been apart of is where he was with a stronger leader(s), as mentioned above. whereas timmy was the H.N.I.C, even in the Robinson era. put garnett on the spurs and timmy on the wolves a couple of years ago and i don't see san antonio doing what they've done.
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Kobe should get it, but knowing the league they'll probably give it to Paul, not tryin to knock dude though he's been amazing
Kobe will get it. It seems like you have to get screwed out of at least 1 before you actually win it.
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Kobe should get it, but knowing the league they'll probably give it to Paul, not tryin to knock dude though he's been amazing
Kobe will get it. It seems like you have to get screwed out of at least 1 before you actually win it.
Yes, pretty much. Nash was an exception because he completely turned the Suns around after his FA signing.
At the end of the day, there is no chance that Kobe will retire without an MVP trophy. Even if he is having a lesser season at like 32, they will give it to him just for what he has done in his career. I'm sure as fuck about that. That nigga Paul has plenty of chances to get one or two throughout his career, he's still a young cat, as is the great LeBron.
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^ Well said, I hope you're right
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well i'll try to make more sense.
Garnett needs OTHER leaders. every successful player needs a supporting cast , a strong one at that. i'm not denying that. but notice that the only winning teams garnett has been apart of is where he was with a stronger leader(s), as mentioned above. whereas timmy was the H.N.I.C, even in the Robinson era. put garnett on the spurs and timmy on the wolves a couple of years ago and i don't see san antonio doing what they've done.
I do...Ginobli, T. Parker, D. Robinson > Cassell, Spreewell, Joe Smith
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first order of business
fuck both duncan and garnett, but Duncan>>>Garnett. timmy might be past his prime and garnett maybe still playing in his, BUT. i'd choose an over the hill duncan (as of right now) than garnett. Garnett needs other players (sam cassell, spree, allen, peirce) to be successful, where as timmy is the one who's makin' his players the de facto every year.
and yes i'd have to agree that i think it's going to come down to kobe and Paul. ultimately cuz i don't think the rockets will hold on to that top seed for much longe( as a matter of fact looking at the standing right now the lakers SHOULD be the top seed now cuz of the division record/confr record , ect) . and 1 and 2 will be the lakers and new orleans by the time the season ends. and IMO i think the MVP should go to the leader of the team that gets that top spot.
manu ginobli and tony parker ring a bell?
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Kobe should get it, but knowing the league they'll probably give it to Paul, not tryin to knock dude though he's been amazing
Kobe will get it. It seems like you have to get screwed out of at least 1 before you actually win it.
well you must admit, ever derek fischer says Chris Paul is involved in ALL his teams plays unlike Kobe. kobe and fischer were on Steven A Smith today talking about that.
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^What does that have to do with anything? Andre Miller is involved in all the Sixer plays, is he the MVP too? LOL. It's called a POINT GUARD.
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^What does that have to do with anything? Andre Miller is involved in all the Sixer plays, is he the MVP too? LOL. It's called a POINT GUARD.
well one guy has the best record in the west and is involved in all their plays
the other guy is a ball hog who's team does better when he doesn't shoot all day.
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Kobe is a ball hog? LOL...Now I've heard it all. Crack boy, would you do this section a big favor and STFU? Thank you.
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Kobe is a ball hog? LOL...Now I've heard it all. Crack boy, would you do this section a big favor and STFU? Thank you.
LOL sorry don't wanna offend your idol.
even Crooked I has a line about Kobe being a ball hog. "i ball hog the mic so much you can call me Bryant" or something.
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^What does that have to do with anything? Andre Miller is involved in all the Sixer plays, is he the MVP too? LOL. It's called a POINT GUARD.
LMAO! When I read his post I was actually saying to myself "I wonder if he know Chris Paul is the point guard on that team".
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Kobe is a ball hog? LOL...Now I've heard it all. Crack boy, would you do this section a big favor and STFU? Thank you.
LOL sorry don't wanna offend your idol.
even Crooked I has a line about Kobe being a ball hog. "i ball hog the mic so much you can call me Bryant" or something.
They said the same thing about Jordan, but people who actually know the sport know that's not true...They're SHOOTING GUARDS for a reason, but claiming someone who leads their team in assists a ballhog is beyond retarded.
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It All Comes down to tonight!
The Team that Wins Will Get their All-Star The Trophy (MVP)
Kobe Going for 50+ tonight, because he can
(Lakers should Win Tonight in Blowout Fashion)
8)
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well i think the key to beating the hornets is defending that 3 point shot that you know they're going to soot and shoot well, and contain the other player like chandler, west and stroke-a-bitch. paul's going to do his thing regardless , so if you let him do all the work and eliminate the others (which is possible) we got a chance. plus we're a much bigger team than them we got to do, like stu lanz has BEEN saying.....pound that shit inside. chandler isn't a ben wallace, so he's not strong enough to deal with 7 foot gasol, 6'10 odom, 6'10 Vlad, 7 foot mihm (if he plays a lil) all coming at him, drive to the basket and draw fouls on him , to take away their inside presence. with that said we got to be good at defending the basket in the lane as well. the hornets KNOW we'll be looking for them to shoot behind the arc so they're going to be driving alot, especially paul. thank god luke, sasha, and vlad have been lighting it up lately
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(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/6d/fullj.a9474a22a84d4c434e6e9e6b7e9f4f80/a9474a22a84d4c434e6e9e6b7e9f4f80-getty-76075044ab018_spurs_lakers.jpg)
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damn vanessa fell off.
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^it's that fake smile. when someone smiles and doesn't look happy, you get that..
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i guess, but she use to be more bangin'. don't get me wrong she's still fine, but not AS fine.
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she looks the same to me... that pretend smile does make her look worse, though.
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she looks like a straight mom in that pic... maybe because in that pic she is a mom. I'm sure she gets the right cloths on, she's just the same as she was on Tha Eastsidaz.
I actually she looks better. Maybe it's the age, but before she looked like a young, teenage girl, now she looking like a woman.
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she looks like a straight mom in that pic... maybe because in that pic she is a mom. I'm sure she gets the right cloths on, she's just the same as she was on Tha Eastsidaz.
I actually she looks better. Maybe it's the age, but before she looked like a young, teenage girl, now she looking like a woman.
tha eastsidaz?
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she looks like a straight mom in that pic... maybe because in that pic she is a mom. I'm sure she gets the right cloths on, she's just the same as she was on Tha Eastsidaz.
I actually she looks better. Maybe it's the age, but before she looked like a young, teenage girl, now she looking like a woman.
tha eastsidaz?
silver outfit... in the car with the red interior
http://www.youtube.com/v/YSAMgskZaZA&hl=en
yeap... Kobe got a video girl
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kobe cheated on her the night before probably ;D
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she looks like a straight mom in that pic... maybe because in that pic she is a mom. I'm sure she gets the right cloths on, she's just the same as she was on Tha Eastsidaz.
I actually she looks better. Maybe it's the age, but before she looked like a young, teenage girl, now she looking like a woman.
tha eastsidaz?
wow i've seen that video 230948023802893 times and i just caught that. good lookin out.
silver outfit... in the car with the red interior
http://www.youtube.com/v/YSAMgskZaZA&hl=en
yeap... Kobe got a video girl