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Title: Was "Keep Their Heads Ringin" Dre's greatest lyrical performance?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on March 23, 2008, 08:14:41 AM
Classic Westcoast hip-hop........   but with East Coast style lyrics, wonder who wrote this track for Dre.  It was like the only track he did in like 3 years, one of only 2 tracks in 6 years if you count "Been Their Done That" era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wlnRDYmcTY
Title: Re: Was "Keep Their Heads Ringin" Dre's greatest lyrical performance?
Post by: The Real Kilo2 on March 23, 2008, 08:22:58 AM
J. Flexx apparently, but I think his best is Been There Done That.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite on March 23, 2008, 08:26:34 AM
J. Flexx apparently, but I think his best is Been There Done That.

I think J. Flexx only helped in producin the track but not writing the lyrics...

...and "Been There Done" That was a cool concept and everything, but I don't think his flow was as ill, and he was starting to get too far into that Godfather, materialistic theme he used for "Zoom" with LL and his work with the Firm.
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Post by: The Real Kilo2 on March 23, 2008, 08:36:11 AM
J. Flexx is known for being a ghost writer though, he didn't start producing till later, even then his productions are still rather boring. Nothing Dre-ish. If it wasn't J. Flexx, it was Druama. J. Flexx was known for writing California Love (Dre's part) and Natural Born Killaz, and it kind of sounds like his verse.
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Post by: Lazar on March 23, 2008, 08:36:39 AM
Definitely one of his best tracks, not only from the lyrically side. IMO 95-97 were the best years of Dre (The Firm project, Been There, Done That, Kepp Their Heads Ringin). Too bad he donīt followed this mafia influenced style...
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Post by: The Real Kilo2 on March 23, 2008, 08:36:56 AM
Oh and J. Flexx did write Been There Done That. One of his best works.
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Post by: HEC on March 23, 2008, 08:44:06 AM
J. Flexx is known for being a ghost writer though, he didn't start producing till later, even then his productions are still rather boring. Nothing Dre-ish. If it wasn't J. Flexx, it was Druama. J. Flexx was known for writing California Love (Dre's part) and Natural Born Killaz, and it kind of sounds like his verse.

I prefered Sam Sneed's production to Flexx's, although Flexx was a dope ghostwriter I think Sneed's production fit in a bit better with Dre's
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Post by: The Real Kilo2 on March 23, 2008, 08:46:57 AM
J. Flexx is known for being a ghost writer though, he didn't start producing till later, even then his productions are still rather boring. Nothing Dre-ish. If it wasn't J. Flexx, it was Druama. J. Flexx was known for writing California Love (Dre's part) and Natural Born Killaz, and it kind of sounds like his verse.

I prefered Sam Sneed's production to Flexx's, although Flexx was a dope ghostwriter I think Sneed's production fit in a bit better with Dre's

Indeed. I think J. Flexx just did ghost writing at the time, and later Barney Rubble started helping him produce.
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Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on March 23, 2008, 09:21:42 AM
Oh and J. Flexx did write Been There Done That. One of his best works.
NaS wrote "who been there done that"
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Post by: The Real Kilo2 on March 23, 2008, 09:31:01 AM
Oh and J. Flexx did write Been There Done That. One of his best works.
NaS wrote "who been there done that"

Positive? J. Flexx has taken credit for it. Notice, why he did a response track called Who Been There Who Done That On Death Row's greatest hits. ;)
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite on March 23, 2008, 09:58:50 AM
Oh and J. Flexx did write Been There Done That. One of his best works.
NaS wrote "who been there done that"

that's something I never heard before, that Nas wrote "Been There Done That".  It does sound alot like a Nas written verse, but do you have any source, any proof?
Title: Re: Was "Keep Their Heads Ringin" Dre's greatest lyrical performance?
Post by: Lucifuge on March 23, 2008, 10:16:07 AM
i was read somevere tbx eas a wrote this track
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Post by: 187Proof on March 23, 2008, 11:27:52 AM
I always read that Kurupt ghostwrote "Keep Their Heads Ringin'"  ???
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Post by: es-jay on March 23, 2008, 11:39:24 AM
i was read somevere tbx eas a wrote this track

what?


also, pretty sure J. Flexx wrote "Been There, Done That". never heard anything about Nas writing it...
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Post by: The Ultimate Pianist on March 23, 2008, 11:52:28 AM
J. Flexx apparently, but I think his best is Been There Done That.

I think J. Flexx only helped in producin the track but not writing the lyrics...

...and "Been There Done" That was a cool concept and everything, but I don't think his flow was as ill, and he was starting to get too far into that Godfather, materialistic theme he used for "Zoom" with LL and his work with the Firm.

You speak the truth.
Dope song tho.
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Post by: Raphael on March 23, 2008, 12:04:25 PM
his flow was sick!
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Post by: UCC on March 23, 2008, 12:06:48 PM
I thought J Flexx wasn't around when "Been There, Done That" was done because Dre had a different team when he left Death Row? And I thought the diss track had a similar name because it was aimed at Dre and that had been Dre's last big single around the time the diss came out

Title: Re: Was "Keep Their Heads Ringin" Dre's greatest lyrical performance?
Post by: The Real Kilo2 on March 23, 2008, 12:16:58 PM
I thought J Flexx wasn't around when "Been There, Done That" was done because Dre had a different team when he left Death Row? And I thought the diss track had a similar name because it was aimed at Dre and that had been Dre's last big single around the time the diss came out



Nah, he tried moving Flexx over to Aftermath, but couldn't break him out of his contract with Death Row. So Druama became Dre's ghost writer for the rest of his shit.
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Post by: Okka on March 23, 2008, 02:07:31 PM
My favourite Dre track. Straight up classic, been a while since i bumped this.
Title: Re: Was "Keep Their Heads Ringin" Dre's greatest lyrical performance?
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on March 23, 2008, 02:45:45 PM
Classic Westcoast hip-hop........   but with East Coast style lyrics, wonder who wrote this track for Dre.  It was like the only track he did in like 3 years, one of only 2 tracks in 6 years if you count "Been Their Done That" era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wlnRDYmcTY
it's a funny song,cause it's dope as fucc,yet it has some of the waccest lyrics in hip hop,but you had to bump this shit,that beat was sicc yell
Title: Re: Was "Keep Their Heads Ringin" Dre's greatest lyrical performance?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on March 23, 2008, 02:53:51 PM
Classic Westcoast hip-hop........   but with East Coast style lyrics, wonder who wrote this track for Dre.  It was like the only track he did in like 3 years, one of only 2 tracks in 6 years if you count "Been Their Done That" era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wlnRDYmcTY
it's a funny song,cause it's dope as fucc,yet it has some of the waccest lyrics in hip hop,but you had to bump this shit,that beat was sicc yell

None of the lyrics are wack.  I thought that line.. "plenty of ass so call me an asstronaut" was a dope line, he kept flippin metaphors East Coast style.
Title: Re: Was "Keep Their Heads Ringin" Dre's greatest lyrical performance?
Post by: Larrabee on March 23, 2008, 04:39:14 PM
J-Flexx wrote Dre's lyrics and Sam Sneed co-produced the beat.
Title: Re: Was "Keep Their Heads Ringin" Dre's greatest lyrical performance?
Post by: UCC on March 23, 2008, 05:12:43 PM
I remember that I have two versions of this track, the only difference being like maybe 4 lines are changed in it, I think one version mentions Colgate and the other doesn't
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Post by: The Real Kilo2 on March 23, 2008, 05:19:33 PM
I remember that I have two versions of this track, the only difference being like maybe 4 lines are changed in it, I think one version mentions Colgate and the other doesn't

I think you got the video version, the single version, and then there's like two different remixes of the shit which are extended. Also Larrabee, I think you got it right. If I could prop you I would.
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Post by: UCC on March 23, 2008, 05:32:34 PM
Classic Westcoast hip-hop........   but with East Coast style lyrics, wonder who wrote this track for Dre.  It was like the only track he did in like 3 years, one of only 2 tracks in 6 years if you count "Been Their Done That" era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wlnRDYmcTY
it's a funny song,cause it's dope as fucc,yet it has some of the waccest lyrics in hip hop,but you had to bump this shit,that beat was sicc yell

None of the lyrics are wack.  I thought that line.. "plenty of ass so call me an asstronaut" was a dope line, he kept flippin metaphors East Coast style.

Co-sign, it was wall to wall quotable lines, and a lot of multi-syllable stuff in there
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Post by: HEC on March 23, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
I remember that I have two versions of this track, the only difference being like maybe 4 lines are changed in it, I think one version mentions Colgate and the other doesn't

I think you got the video version, the single version, and then there's like two different remixes of the shit which are extended. Also Larrabee, I think you got it right. If I could prop you I would.

the one on the Death Row Greatest Hits has the "I use Crest so there ain't know cavity creeps in my grill", was changed to "keeping it real enables me to make another meal"
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 23, 2008, 05:48:55 PM
Interesting. I was just gonna make a post about how wack some of the lyrics in this song are...


"In a party I go for your neck so call me Blackula"

"But get popped like a pimple, so call me Clearasil"

"The enforcer, music floats like a flyin saucer"

"With grooves so funky, they come with a Speed Stick"

"I bring terror like Stephen King"

"A black Casanova, runnin niggaz over like Christine"

"I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut"

"But I smoke him like grass, just like Cheech and Chong"

"Without a care, runnin shit as if I was a mayor"

"Step on stage and get faded just like a flat top"

"Dre came to wax you so, just call me Mop N Glow"



^ I love Dre (no homo) but none of you will ever convince me those lines are good.
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Post by: illchicano on March 23, 2008, 06:06:37 PM
this song was produced by sam sneed along with natural born killas along with ofcourse recognize. check youtube and see his interviews he says it flat out. dope song for sure. beat is ill.
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Post by: HEC on March 23, 2008, 06:25:54 PM
Interesting. I was just gonna make a post about how wack some of the lyrics in this song are...


"In a party I go for your neck so call me Blackula"

"But get popped like a pimple, so call me Clearasil"

"The enforcer, music floats like a flyin saucer"

"With grooves so funky, they come with a Speed Stick"

"I bring terror like Stephen King"

"A black Casanova, runnin niggaz over like Christine"

"I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut"

"But I smoke him like grass, just like Cheech and Chong"

"Without a care, runnin shit as if I was a mayor"

"Step on stage and get faded just like a flat top"

"Dre came to wax you so, just call me Mop N Glow"



^ I love Dre (no homo) but none of you will ever convince me those lines are good.


I agree, its like J-Flexx was trying to be lyrical and use dope metaphors but it just came out very wack. The beat and Dre's ill flow and delivery is what made this a classic song, not the lyrics
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite on March 23, 2008, 09:08:03 PM
Interesting. I was just gonna make a post about how wack some of the lyrics in this song are...


"In a party I go for your neck so call me Blackula"

"But get popped like a pimple, so call me Clearasil"

"The enforcer, music floats like a flyin saucer"

"With grooves so funky, they come with a Speed Stick"

"I bring terror like Stephen King"

"A black Casanova, runnin niggaz over like Christine"

"I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut"

"But I smoke him like grass, just like Cheech and Chong"

"Without a care, runnin shit as if I was a mayor"

"Step on stage and get faded just like a flat top"

"Dre came to wax you so, just call me Mop N Glow"



^ I love Dre (no homo) but none of you will ever convince me those lines are good.


It all sounds dope to me... Maybe if it wasn't Dre, and maybe if the beat wasn't so bangin, and the video, and the time period and everything else... maybe then I'd have a different perspective.... other than that, they are all ill metaphors to me.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite on March 23, 2008, 09:10:50 PM
this song was produced by sam sneed along with natural born killas along with ofcourse recognize. check youtube and see his interviews he says it flat out. dope song for sure. beat is ill.

Interesting..... I just realized there was a video for the "U Betta Recognize" track wit Dre in the video... nice video from back in the day, they just keep it real, even the girl in the video is actually dissin Sam Sneed, so much better than that overdone shit that's out today.
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Post by: Lucifuge on March 24, 2008, 12:02:14 AM
rbx wrote this benger,he's said so
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Post by: Lazar on March 24, 2008, 12:09:34 AM
this song was produced by sam sneed along with natural born killas along with ofcourse recognize. check youtube and see his interviews he says it flat out. dope song for sure. beat is ill.

Sam Sneed produced Natural Born Killaz? Is that true?
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Post by: Dre-Day on March 24, 2008, 12:17:50 AM
I agree, its like J-Flexx was trying to be lyrical and use dope metaphors but it just came out very wack. The beat and Dre's ill flow and delivery is what made this a classic song, not the lyrics

exactly, it's a party track after all, and that's what dre was making at that time  ;) so i agree.

not sure what other track i would choose as dre's best lyrical performance, but probably a track that's co-written by the D.O.C. , Ice Cube or Eminem.
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Post by: lawz2760 on March 24, 2008, 01:29:33 AM
One of Dre's greaest songs, still in steady rotation for me
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Post by: Raphael on March 24, 2008, 03:10:01 AM
"I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut"

"But I smoke him like grass, just like Cheech and Chong"
yah those were wack.
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Post by: dubscheisty on March 24, 2008, 04:09:14 AM
If not J Flexx definitely sam sneed. 
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Post by: daWappla on March 24, 2008, 04:17:26 AM
"Your chances of jacking me are slim G, cause I rock from summer till Santa comes down the chimney."

Thatīs the best line in thw whole song.
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Post by: The Real Kilo2 on March 24, 2008, 09:54:08 AM
rbx wrote this benger,he's said so

RBX had left Death Row by 1995. Lol.
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Post by: HEC on March 24, 2008, 10:00:06 AM
I prefer Flexx when hes trying to kick reality raps like on the Gang Related and Gridlock'd soundtrack he comes off very dope, rather than those punchlines he tried to write
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Post by: Doggystylin on March 24, 2008, 11:12:22 AM
the speed stick line is sick, i don't know what you're talking about
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Post by: UCC on March 24, 2008, 12:20:07 PM
Interesting. I was just gonna make a post about how wack some of the lyrics in this song are...


"In a party I go for your neck so call me Blackula"

"But get popped like a pimple, so call me Clearasil"

"The enforcer, music floats like a flyin saucer"

"With grooves so funky, they come with a Speed Stick"

"I bring terror like Stephen King"

"A black Casanova, runnin niggaz over like Christine"

"I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut"

"But I smoke him like grass, just like Cheech and Chong"

"Without a care, runnin shit as if I was a mayor"

"Step on stage and get faded just like a flat top"

"Dre came to wax you so, just call me Mop N Glow"



^ I love Dre (no homo) but none of you will ever convince me those lines are good.


Those are all dope, especially the Stephen King - Christine reference, that's mad dope to drop that in there
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Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 24, 2008, 02:06:04 PM
Interesting. I was just gonna make a post about how wack some of the lyrics in this song are...


"In a party I go for your neck so call me Blackula"

"But get popped like a pimple, so call me Clearasil"

"The enforcer, music floats like a flyin saucer"

"With grooves so funky, they come with a Speed Stick"

"I bring terror like Stephen King"

"A black Casanova, runnin niggaz over like Christine"

"I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut"

"But I smoke him like grass, just like Cheech and Chong"

"Without a care, runnin shit as if I was a mayor"

"Step on stage and get faded just like a flat top"

"Dre came to wax you so, just call me Mop N Glow"



^ I love Dre (no homo) but none of you will ever convince me those lines are good.


It all sounds dope to me... Maybe if it wasn't Dre, and maybe if the beat wasn't so bangin, and the video, and the time period and everything else... maybe then I'd have a different perspective.... other than that, they are all ill metaphors to me.

these lines look pretty wack when you actually see them LOL

maybe he should have gotten Kurupt to write him some MC shit

my favorite is Forgot About Dre 8)
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Post by: Dre-Day on March 25, 2008, 03:48:13 AM
not sure what other track i would choose as dre's best lyrical performance, but probably a track that's co-written by the D.O.C. , Ice Cube or Eminem.

Dr.Dre and mr.Ski is dope too
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Post by: The Ultimate Pianist on March 25, 2008, 06:05:48 AM
Interesting. I was just gonna make a post about how wack some of the lyrics in this song are...


"In a party I go for your neck so call me Blackula"

"But get popped like a pimple, so call me Clearasil"

"The enforcer, music floats like a flyin saucer"

"With grooves so funky, they come with a Speed Stick"

"I bring terror like Stephen King"

"A black Casanova, runnin niggaz over like Christine"

"I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut"

"But I smoke him like grass, just like Cheech and Chong"

"Without a care, runnin shit as if I was a mayor"

"Step on stage and get faded just like a flat top"

"Dre came to wax you so, just call me Mop N Glow"



^ I love Dre (no homo) but none of you will ever convince me those lines are good.

I agree with you. I mean the beat is dope and I bump this all the time but lrics are just witty, but not the kind of lyrics you can just coast to...
IMO Dre's last verse in Forgot about Dre is one of the best...I find it really show's his hunger and re-affirming himself and just showing ppl who's the boss. chek this out:
If it was up to me
You muthafuckas would stop comin up to me
Wit your hands out lookin up to me
Like you want somethin free
When my last cd was out you wasn't bumpin me
But now that I got this little company
Everybody wanna come to me like it was some disease
But you won't get a crumb from me
Cause I'm from the streets of Compton
I told em all
All them little gangstas
Who you think helped mold 'em all
Now you wanna run around and talk about guns
Like I ain't got none
What you think I sold 'em all
Cause I stay well off
Now all I get is hate mail all day sayin Dre fell off
What cause I been in the lab wit a pen and a pad
Tryna get this damn label off
I ain't havin that
This is the millenium of Aftermath
It ain't gonna be nothin after that
So give me one more platinum plaque and fuck rap
You can have it back
So where's all the mad rappers at
It's like a jungle in this habitat
But all you savage cats
Knew that I was strapped wit gats
When you were cuddled wit cabbage patch


Classic.
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Post by: MediumL on March 25, 2008, 06:33:03 AM
I heard that this song was meant to be part of his collab albums with Ice Cube which got pushed back. Dam what a dope album it woulda been. i think that the collab album, his own second album and Lady of Rages album were the main reasons we hardly heard anything from Dre round 95-7
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Post by: eazye on March 25, 2008, 07:01:41 AM
Now, I'm really popsitive Sam Sneed produced the track with Dre, same can be said about Natural Born Killaz, and J. Flexx wrote it (isn;t he even credited?)

I have absolutely no problem with the lyrics on there, they dope if you ask me, and flow and beat are ILL as hell

But as far as Dre's best lyrical performance, Express Yourself and Parental DIscretiopn Advised are tops for me, maybe 1-2 tracks from 2001 two, but I can agree with keep their hands ringin' being one of his best
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Post by: HEC on March 25, 2008, 09:48:49 AM
I thought "Ask Yourself A Question" was a pretty sick verse written by Kurupt for Dre on "Kuruption!". "Forgot About Dre" is another one, up there as well
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Post by: MIC on March 25, 2008, 10:25:45 AM
Now, I'm really popsitive Sam Sneed produced the track with Dre, same can be said about Natural Born Killaz, and J. Flexx wrote it (isn;t he even credited?)

Both Sam Sneed and J. Flexx are credited. Sneed is also listed as co-producer.