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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Outrageous Distribution on March 23, 2008, 05:45:28 PM
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Does anyone agree with me that Bishop is tight but he lacks star power. Like Snoop he has star power 50 cent, Jay all got that something that makes you want to fuck with them. May be he doesnt have a story behind him if he does we need to hear it. For whatever reason dude is hella niice on the mic dont get me wrong I just dont take him seriously. What yall think it is.
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nah, bishop is growing fast and will become one of the greatest. he has it all. he is creative ( lyrically flowwise contentwise) and hungry plus his voice is sounding more dope everytime i hear new tracks by him.
he is more real than game or the other young 'gangster'rappers for example. game is more of an actor bishop is true to himself and his audience.
at the moment he is already the best out there. i mean snoop is getting old his flow is lacking. jay is whispering. nas is the same bullshit all day everyday. 50 cent is not hungry anymore.
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Does anyone agree with me that Bishop is tight but he lacks star power. Like Snoop he has star power 50 cent, Jay all got that something that makes you want to fuck with them. May be he doesnt have a story behind him if he does we need to hear it. For whatever reason dude is hella niice on the mic dont get me wrong I just dont take him seriously. What yall think it is.
just cuz he didnt get shot 9 times, doenst have a nose as big as jay's, or isnt' snoop doesnt mean he less than them. lamont is just comin up
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lool i knew SOMEONE would mention Game..Game the best rapper DEAD OR ALIVE AFTER PAC! NIGGAS CANT STOP MENTIONING HIM WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE WESTCOAST! BWWWWWWWWWWWSS U MAD?
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nah, bishop is growing fast and will become one of the greatest.
SURE.... ::)
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Well I've to say bishop is my favorite rapper already for a few years, but I kind of agree with you.
But instead of you not taking him serious, I do most of the time.
It's just that I don't know if he stand on both feets when he finally drops.
And how will his appeal be to the mass? Not only salewise but also as you mentioned starpower.
We can just wait, hope and see.
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I'm not feenin' like when I heard snoop on deep cover Icouldn't wait for his shit. bishop he's just going to pass like an rtd bus ad and fade away no wow factor. fo real
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in 4 years he will be a NOBODY....
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he has raw potential and someone needs to mold it (no homo) into becoming a star
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lool i knew SOMEONE would mention Game..Game the best rapper DEAD OR ALIVE AFTER PAC! NIGGAS CANT STOP MENTIONING HIM WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE WESTCOAST! BWWWWWWWWWWWSS U MAD?
lollll yeahhhhhhhhhhh
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Does anyone agree with me that Bishop is tight but he lacks star power. Like Snoop he has star power 50 cent, Jay all got that something that makes you want to fuck with them. May be he doesnt have a story behind him if he does we need to hear it. For whatever reason dude is hella niice on the mic dont get me wrong I just dont take him seriously. What yall think it is.
just cuz he didnt get shot 9 times, doenst have a nose as big as jay's, or isnt' snoop doesnt mean he less than them. lamont is just comin up
Its niggaz like you that get on my nerves by putting words in mymouth. Obviously u didnt read my thread nigga! I am saying star power he doesnt command presence nigga. Do u know you know what that means. i said the nigga is nice I am talking about that it Factor u fucc bag!
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I'm not feenin' like when I heard snoop on deep cover Icouldn't wait for his shit. bishop he's just going to pass like an rtd bus ad and fade away no wow factor. fo real
Thats my point he seems gimmicky to me. he is talneted but he doesnt have that "IT" factor!!
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I kinda agree with the threadstarter but it doesn't necessarily mean he can't succeed in on a mainstream level ... don't tell me Jay Z had "it" when it comes to star power .. Snoop , 50, Em or Diddy have "it" but Jay I don't think so .. still he's one of the most successfull rapper in the history .. with a BIG single , Bishop can do it, he's still a funny dude and has his own personnality .. this isn't the main pb about Bishop , 90 % of probability of not dropping an album is ...
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If anyone could bring consciousness back into mainstream rap it could easily be him. Bishop is one of the realest IMO. What does "IT" Factor mean? you gotta include all the shawty, swag, hustle, snap, and some faggy dance named after a cartoon character subjects into your shit?
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Bishop is cool and all but sometimes i thinks he talks alot of bullshit like when he was on pyo show he was talkin alot of bullshit about the industry and the man hasnt even pulled out an album how the fuck would he know also he talked about joel ortiz's situation not to hate cuz i do like bishop but if anybody would get droped it would be bishop and not joel and also always is talkin about detox and all i see is bullshit so far and also the man talks alot about warren g that dre is workin with him that the new album is gonna be the re return of the regulator and i see those new tracks they sound nothin like return of the regulator nor do they sound like they have any dre influence on them
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"It Factor means a presence. If you dont know it u just dont. It makes you want to go pick up that person album some intrigue. Snoop is intriguing why well he has been in the game forever but the whole death row ordeal he survived. Even Kurupt has the "It" factor he commands attention is what I'm saying. It's like when u at a party and all eyes is on that one individual you dont know the person or anything you just know that mufu got it. I look at talent all the time. People can gain the It factor dont get me wrong. I just dont see him as confident enough at the moment. Maybe beucase he has alot to live up to be on aftermath and all. I mean even Game has a little IT factor. It's a persona my nigga. He reminds me of that High school kid that alway s wanted to be part of the hip crowd but was never invited. Maybe I'm worng but I am a good judge of character in these avenues. I think we need a story behind him. I have peeped his interviews they are boring as hell. Ehat is the niggaz story. Okay u nice on the Mic but what gives. Crooked I has a more IT factor than ole boy does. Nothing against my man I hope he blows beyond belief but dam how long dow e have to wait before this nga shit drops. The buzz gone be gone.
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Bishop is cool and all but sometimes i thinks he talks alot of bullshit like when he was on pyo show he was talkin alot of bullshit about the industry and the man hasnt even pulled out an album how the fuck would he know also he talked about joel ortiz's situation not to hate cuz i do like bishop but if anybody would get droped it would be bishop and not joel and also always is talkin about detox and all i see is bullshit so far and also the man talks alot about warren g that dre is workin with him that the new album is gonna be the re return of the regulator and i see those new tracks they sound nothin like return of the regulator nor do they sound like they have any dre influence on them
I agree the nigga seems funnystyle to me for some reason. Now I dont know the man jsut from what I have read and his comments and interivews.
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That Warren Shit is straight foul. I aint feelin that shit and if niggaz know me and have heard my music I like that Jazzy club street shit but that virgin joint lacks everything!
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yeah that vigin shit if off some sexual eruption influnced bullshit i hope the west doest follow that fad thats all we need
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It's not even as good as the sexual eruption. Check out my shit. Get a feel for how a real playa do it.
Tongue action - http://www.zshare.net/audio/9451382ca351b5/
I see ya Girl - http://www.zshare.net/download/94514528877629/
FreakFest - http://www.zshare.net/audio/945153248dc4d8/
All three got that street edge with "sex appeal feel" Sex and the City type shit!!
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nah, bishop is growing fast and will become one of the greatest. he has it all. he is creative ( lyrically flowwise contentwise) and hungry plus his voice is sounding more dope everytime i hear new tracks by him.
he is more real than game or the other young 'gangster'rappers for example. game is more of an actor bishop is true to himself and his audience.
at the moment he is already the best out there. i mean snoop is getting old his flow is lacking. jay is whispering. nas is the same bullshit all day everyday. 50 cent is not hungry anymore.
I agree witchu folx!
bishop is one of the dopest if not the dopest out and has been for a minute!
game is dope, but not on bishops level
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Bishop is dope but to sell to the masses and mainstream he will need a back story. That seems tp be more important than the music now a days ::)
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Bishop is dope but to sell to the masses and mainstream he will need a back story. That seems tp be more important than the music now a days ::)
well hes doin him right now and I hope he doesnt sell for the masses cuz eventually you will turn into snoop!
look at him, his careers been goin downward motion for a minute!
and then he releases that sexual shit!
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Does anyone agree with me that Bishop is tight but he lacks star power.
I definately agree with this. He is lacking a certain presence on the mic. He has the lyrical ability but I don't see him becoming a star. Maybe something like Hittman but 1 level above him. It seems as if he doesn't have a particular personality, almost monotone. That's what it is with most rappers who are lyrical. They just don't appeal to the commercial market.
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Exaclty soemthing is missing my nigga! Now can he find it maybe. That one joint he did up and down that shit was hot anyone nowhere I can get that drop a link or something. It was him G malone and some other nigga I think Cyrus
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... then again, I doubt dude is looking to become the next musical messiah. Methinks his m.o. is more catering to those who want "it", which is a whole different "it".
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nah, bishop is growing fast and will become one of the greatest. he has it all. he is creative ( lyrically flowwise contentwise) and hungry plus his voice is sounding more dope everytime i hear new tracks by him.
he is more real than game or the other young 'gangster'rappers for example. game is more of an actor bishop is true to himself and his audience.
at the moment he is already the best out there. i mean snoop is getting old his flow is lacking. jay is whispering. nas is the same bullshit all day everyday. 50 cent is not hungry anymore.
Co-sign. I don't think he's the best lyrically, but I think he has the most potential to become a star
He can get lyrical with it, but he can also keep it simple and funny (which is why someone ultra lyrical like Kool G Rap never blew in the mainstream because he's always making everything rhyme with everything else, and so it's harder for a non-hiphop fan to get into)
He also has that star look I think, like he's a cool looking guy (no homo lol), and isn't an ugly fuck (unlike jay) or a skinny weak looking mofo (snoop, no disrespect but who wants to be in the same shape as snoop), he has a cool voice (unlike jay), he can rap about a loooad of different topics well (unlike snoop who just raps about being a pimp nowadays), he can flow in a bunch of different ways and he has a really good sense of humor (unlike Game who has zero sense of humor) - so I think he has the best of all those stars without any of their weaknesses
In interviews he comes across really well, he's funny as hell, kinda nuts, very personable - he has natural star charisma and I can see why Dre picked him up and also why he's still at the label while others came and went
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nah, bishop is growing fast and will become one of the greatest. he has it all. he is creative ( lyrically flowwise contentwise) and hungry plus his voice is sounding more dope everytime i hear new tracks by him.
he is more real than game or the other young 'gangster'rappers for example. game is more of an actor bishop is true to himself and his audience.
at the moment he is already the best out there. i mean snoop is getting old his flow is lacking. jay is whispering. nas is the same bullshit all day everyday. 50 cent is not hungry anymore.
Co-sign. I don't think he's the best lyrically, but I think he has the most potential to become a star
He can get lyrical with it, but he can also keep it simple and funny (which is why someone ultra lyrical like Kool G Rap never blew in the mainstream because he's always making everything rhyme with everything else, and so it's harder for a non-hiphop fan to get into)
He also has that star look I think, like he's a cool looking guy (no homo lol), and isn't an ugly fuck (unlike jay) or a skinny weak looking mofo (snoop, no disrespect but who wants to be in the same shape as snoop), he has a cool voice (unlike jay), he can rap about a loooad of different topics well (unlike snoop who just raps about being a pimp nowadays), he can flow in a bunch of different ways and he has a really good sense of humor (unlike Game who has zero sense of humor) - so I think he has the best of all those stars without any of their weaknesses
In interviews he comes across really well, he's funny as hell, kinda nuts, very personable - he has natural star charisma and I can see why Dre picked him up and also why he's still at the label while others came and went
well said IMO!
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I dont know about that IT factor. To me it is not relevant if a rapper brings a coast back by being the next pop idol. Personally i give a fuck about the westcoast and these gangsterrap wannabe' s. It is about good music. Most rappers are gimmicks. They started as gimmicks in the eighties and even nowadays they cant be taken seriously. There is also a group of rappers who wants to be taken too seriously, like KRS One for example, which is also a gimmick. The middle section is missin. The rapper who is down to earth and just being himself. No fake frowns, gangsterfairytales or made up gangbang history. Imagine dre cooking up some powerfull spacedout funkshit, who would you like to rip it. The only rapper at the moment that is dope enough for that spot is bishop.
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sad that we gotta focus n the artists ''power'' to appeal to themasses when realli it shoud be about his talent . now will you deny his talent? who else is spittin like him? (lyric wise) + so who cares if he cant have a reality show like snoop? or make funny faces like game? speacially these 2 ( and the rest ) of successful artists from the wc come from under dre's wing.. i hope nobody is doubtin dre's choice of artist
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How can you say the IT factor is not relevant. Without who r u? Just another rapper. Everyone needs that one thing that makes them stand out. We all know it's just not about talent. Is Bishop marketable? We dont know yet but from what I have seen he isnt. I think he is tight dont get me wrong but he is forgettable is what I'm saying. I wouldnt even know who teh fucc he was if i seen him on the streets and if you want that major bread that has to be in the radar. Need I say get dropped if you dont go platinum being signed to Interscope/Aftermath. If his shit flops its a wrap he will get droppes so fast his head would spin. This is a business homie. talent is good to have but its not the same anymore. I hope he wins but trying to fill them Snoop Em 50 cent shoes as far as selling records I dont see him going plat not even gold! Pu it like this he is going to have to appeal to more that just the West if he wants to go Plat and that period.
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lets dont trip no more wait n see till the reformation /detox is release
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sad that we gotta focus n the artists ''power'' to appeal to themasses when realli it shoud be about his talent . now will you deny his talent? who else is spittin like him? (lyric wise) + so who cares if he cant have a reality show like snoop? or make funny faces like game? speacially these 2 ( and the rest ) of successful artists from the wc come from under dre's wing.. i hope nobody is doubtin dre's choice of artist
Dude I feel u. I wish it was just about talent but it's not. So let's stop living in the fairy world. This is a business so speak on it as a business. These mufus need to sell records period. Hiphop is a billion $ industry. I have an indie label homie. I do music becuse I love it but I want to get paid to thats reality. Yall are not understanding me when I say the It factor or star power. It doesnt mean u have a relatiy show it doesnt mean u make funny faces. It just means you have somehtng about u that makes people wanna fucc with u. Busta has it. I think as wack as Spider loc is he has a little bit of it to. A presence is what I'm saying. I'm speaking on niggaz b4 they blew up when they was undergorund. Snopp had it 50 had it. Go look a tthey old shit b4 they hit. They have a hunger I cant expalin it if you know waht Im saying then you know what I'm saying. Its like when u meet a bitch and u know that that bitch has something going on that has you intrigued and you want to spit game to her.
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lets dont trip no more wait n see till the reformation /detox is release
I agree. Anyone Dre ahs fucced wit has went Plat. Lets see if it happens.
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nah, bishop is growing fast and will become one of the greatest. he has it all. he is creative ( lyrically flowwise contentwise) and hungry plus his voice is sounding more dope everytime i hear new tracks by him.
he is more real than game or the other young 'gangster'rappers for example. game is more of an actor bishop is true to himself and his audience.
at the moment he is already the best out there. i mean snoop is getting old his flow is lacking. jay is whispering. nas is the same bullshit all day everyday. 50 cent is not hungry anymore.
"what you on huh, dope or dog food", even tho jay latest shit to me ain't killing it (except for that maybach music version is classic) people still is rapp'n like him,same thing happen to das efx when so many people copy yo steez it makes you seem less important,also checc out bone they went through the same shit, 50 last two mixtapes is bangers,and that hunger is there,what the fucc you talk'n bout,and snoop is doing his thang as well, i'm root'n for bishop as well as the rest of these cats out here,but you can't say bishop ain't get some of his flow from listening to jayz,be honest my equal yell
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I mean there aint nothing new under the sun. It's all about how you deliver it and the machine you have pushing you. There is no doubt he in a position I think we as artist would love to be in. I wish him the best. I still stand behind his lack of "Star Power" and or presence. He is just forgettable to me. After I his his joints they dont make me want to go cop them. Dudes wordplay is sick. I think Crooked got him though. I think what turned me off was when that nigga came out and did a show dressed like Elvis. Shit wasnt funny to me. Trust me and I lie to laugh but tht shit was like Why. I know you calling yo self the black elvis and all but I aint feeling that shit. That shit was gimmicky to me. And then he on the cover dressed like the pope. Pope Mobile mixtape. My nigga if that aint a gimmick I dont knwo what is. i aint mad do whatever you got to do to ganrer and gain that attention so u can sell them records. marketing marketing marketing..... Businesss never personal!! Outrageous
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IMO
Crooked I > Bishop Lamont
Game > Bishop Lamont
Crooked got the MC shit locked on the West or East probably best rapper alive
Game got more charisma than Bishop and check his mixtapes too he can spit MC shit
I would put Bishop behind these 2
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I can agree with that. Ask him would he rather the be the best rapper alive or the richest rapper alive. LOL! Get the Cheese
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Gimmick to me is constantly portrayin somekind of image. That elvis shit is just humor to show he dont take himself to seriously. Game and crooked i are dope rappers but they are not next level cause they are stuck in the gangsterimage that to me is played out. Gangbang shit to me is weaker than a man who can stand on his own.
Snoop without dre doin the vocals sounds weak. Just listen to his flow on the dre tracks on blue carpet. That is flawless. Compare that to press play. As soon as snoop starts rappin it sounds weak. Dont get me wrong Snoop is doing well as an executive producer. He has a good taste in music and is creative with it. I like his new album. He just aint the freshest rapper out there no more.
On 50 not hungry might not be the good worth to describe his demise, but there is no spark in it no more. He's doing the same thing all over again. I see no progression. He's not hungry enough to take his music to a next level.
Bishop Lamont is definitly marketable, starpower is all about self confidence and pope mobile proves the confidence. As soon as the dre beat hits and he rips the shit to pieces everybody will fiend for it. Dre has the highest anticipated album of all time. Everybody that loves music knows about the album and is gonna listen to it. If the albums dope (mainly because of the production off course) people will also check for the reformation. Bishop is not in the position as hittman, who made his first appearance at 2001. Bishop is alread known, by every hiphop head, before detox will drop.
What bishop needs now is just a banging dre beat to hit the airwaves, the rest will be history.
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I think what they are saying is Bishop lacks charisma on the mic.. hes got skill but his music falls along the same subject lines over and over.. and then his sounds comes of as sounding blah because he doesnt have that special something.. I think Joell Oritz had more charisma but was unmarketable.. Bishop just seems to be pretty average with alot of hooplah behind him..
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You get me to a certain extent. That special something has nothing to dow with his Mic skills. We all agree the nigga is nice. He lacks that Swagga is whatt I'm sayin. Snopp had that swagga back when doggystle hit pac had that thug swagga bout him. The outlaws even had it becasue of Pac that shit rubbed off on them. I agree with you all that gangsta shit to me needs a makeover. Lets keep it real bithces by albums not niggaz. I dont know what bitch looking for Bishop they looking for Detox not the reformation. I hope I'm wrong I like the nigga he is tight. I just dont see the star quality. That Elvis shit bitches didnt like tha shit. bithces didnt pay to see u in no fat ass elvis costume my nigga. We will see what happens I hope before the end of the year. Dre may push the shit back another 10 years. LOL! I honeslty think he may be to far ahead of his time.
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If anyone could bring consciousness back into mainstream rap it could easily be him. Bishop is one of the realest IMO. What does "IT" Factor mean? you gotta include all the shawty, swag, hustle, snap, and some faggy dance named after a cartoon character subjects into your shit?
Chuuuuchh lol.
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He'S gonna make it. He's Dre's biggest ''patient'' right now so he WILL make it.
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Cmon dudes, dont act like threadstarter isnt right. But he's a dope ass dude for just bein himself but at the same time when you're signed to a major and you're with Dre that's what you need nowadays.
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IMO
Crooked I > Bishop Lamont
Game > Bishop Lamont
Crooked got the MC shit locked on the West or East probably best rapper alive
Game got more charisma than Bishop and check his mixtapes too he can spit MC shit
I would put Bishop behind these 2
i respect your taste, but it's pointless to make biased claims; i know you can do better than that.
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I don't think Bishop lacks anything to be honest, dope lyrically, good flow, conscious raps, he just needs the right marketing plan, Game is dope too but I think lyrically he hasn't shown the consistency that Bishop has, Game brings it on mixtapes no doubt but his albums are not that much above average from a lyrical standpoint. His flow is off beat at times too, Bishop is more consistent in that aspect. As far as Crooked goes he is on another planet lyrically and flow and delivery too are top notch but his content is lacking, he is probably the best pure MC but he needs to show more versatility in his topics. I enjoy all three rappers music though
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At least you have a good take on the topic. My point was just the "IT Factor" I'm not even talking about the mans talent on the Mic. Strictly talking about what his story what other than his music will make people want to buy it. Marketing takes much more that just hey I'ma god MC. How and in what aspect will he be marketed ya feel me. he is not a gangsta rappa but at times I think he brings it in sometimes. He doesnt appeal to the bitches at all. What makes him stand out is what I'm saying. Are u niggaz listening. THis is a business what other than i got flow makes him marketable. Let me help yall out daaaammm! 50 cent the nigga is buff got good hooks adn does party shit for the most part as his singles. hence In the Club candy shop. Bitches eat and ate that shit up. Cube hell godfahter of gnagst rap no more needs to be said. LL cool J Ladies love kool j what more can u say the ngga is swole and bitches love his music. I dont see bishop doing numbers like game even did. i think he will be lucky if he goes gold. Like I said I want the nigga to win but what and who is his demographic. Look at Common hella marketable. The nigga is non violent pro balck conscious poilitical aadn the bitched love him. Are you niggaz getting the hint. Bitches buy cd's they spen money niggaz dont.
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i think we can't speak for now because bishop hasn't released his "In da club" or "how we do" type of record yet...we'll see
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I'm done obviously niggaz can read but dont comprehend! Dude it's not even about him dropping that type of song. I beg to differ that up n down shit with G-Malone was a club banger and ws gettin spins on the 100.3 the beat. When u reposn to my shit make sure u understood what I have wrote first. Yall niggaz need go back to shcool ans take your English standardized test again. DAAM!
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sorry my friend, i ain't that stupid. I was about to make a longer post but had to go eat something.
Anyway, i think i understood well what you said.
Since the beggining when i heard that bishop was signed to dre i was wondering the same thing. I loved his flow since the first time i heard it(who i gotta kill...) and became a fan immediatly. I thought he had the ability to put different types of records and club bangers... + he was funny and wasn't on that gangsta shit...
But the fact is, when he signed to dre i was wondering if he would stay at aftermath because i haven't seen dude yet. We'll have to wait for a video to see if he has that charisme. Like the Game is one of the best when it comes to videos... When i saw the "certified gangsta" video for the first i tought that shit was crazy. Dude has alot of charisma. But Bishop isn't the same type of man at all.
And i know when you talked about the "it" factor, you were not just talking about the image. But also what he can bring to the table that will appeal to the masses. What bishop can bring might be the come back of real mcing but on a high scale of exposure (with mtv and all that shit).
Actually i'm sure hes gonna sell alot just because of dre... Just think about it. If dre put him alot on his detox album it means something. Dre knows what people like. Look out what bishop put out as mixtapes. 3 crazy albums in one year...He chooses crazy beats and can rhymes. Of course, crooked is on another level but he's too old and too gangsta.
Also, if he was boring and havent got that "IT factor", dre wouldn't be his friend. Warren g would not be his friend. Busta would not fuck with. Same for Chad Hugo... Bishop is working with eminem, 50 cent, busta rhymes... There must be something crazy about this dude. And its not just his flow and the fact that he's signed to the math. He might have the "THING" that make people become superstar. + he's a real down to earth and smart dude like glasses malone (the opposite of the game who is still acting like a child, no offense)...
Speaking of star charisma etc...i think stat quo is even worse...That's why his buzz never worked.
I hope bishop will do well and find an empty place in the rap game where he can sit or create a new one. I wonder with wich types of records he's gonna come out with the reformation, but i bet there will be alot of tracks about fucking bitches. Cause it has to be commercial, sex sales, and bl is crazy on tracks about hoes (for exemple the last track on warren g's album). I can also see him on a "ego trip" track like "i dominate" should be.
To conclude, i would say that bishop may not have the charisma and that "IT factor" you're talking about. But he can come up with crazy flows (go at it) and make some very interesting and appealing hooks + he can change his voice and his type of flow alot on tracks...
I know my paragraph was not well constructed but i hope you will not find me too stupid. And escuse my english it's not my first language
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Next time starve nigga and post yo shit. LOL jsut fuccin wit u. Poin taken pimpin. that;s what I;m talkin bout mufus that can comprehend shit yall bustas pay attention on how grown ass men talk to one another. Shit gets accomplished quicker and we can move on to the next topic ya dig.
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I think he has the most potential to become a star
He will be lucky as fuck if he will not be dropped from the label after the first album.....what's so special about him ? ::)
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I think he has the most potential to become a star
He will be lucky as fuck if he will not be dropped from the label after the first album.....what's so special about him ? ::)
What's so special? well i think that he's gotta have some dope material for The Reformation if he can afford to put out ''mixtape'' albums like N*gger noize, Caltroit, and Pope Mobile, not to mention the forthcoming The Confessional a.k.a the collection plate. These albums all have dope bangers. Now imagine the actual Debut album
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real talk....not to mention dudes 3 "mixtape" are all original productions, no rapping over someone else beats...dude gets these beats by the best producers in the game and he usually rips em to pieces and he puts these out free of charge (he aint tryin to make cash off these mixtapes like some other rappers) cant wait for the whoo kid mixtape bishop is a beast 8)
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real talk....not to mention dudes 3 "mixtape" are all original productions, no rapping over someone else beats...dude gets these beats by the best producers in the game and he usually rips em to pieces and he puts these out free of charge (he aint tryin to make cash off these mixtapes like some other rappers) cant wait for the whoo kid mixtape bishop is a beast 8)
Any word on when that Whoo Kid mixtape is supposed to be out?
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real talk....not to mention dudes 3 "mixtape" are all original productions, no rapping over someone else beats...dude gets these beats by the best producers in the game and he usually rips em to pieces and he puts these out free of charge (he aint tryin to make cash off these mixtapes like some other rappers) cant wait for the whoo kid mixtape bishop is a beast 8)
i'm not arguing about his persona,probably bishop is a cool dude...i don't know. i'm talkin about "the rapper"......he can release 50 mixtapes every year but to me he can't make it BIG
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nah, bishop is growing fast and will become one of the greatest. he has it all. he is creative ( lyrically flowwise contentwise) and hungry plus his voice is sounding more dope everytime i hear new tracks by him.
he is more real than game or the other young 'gangster'rappers for example. game is more of an actor bishop is true to himself and his audience.
at the moment he is already the best out there. i mean snoop is getting old his flow is lacking. jay is whispering. nas is the same bullshit all day everyday. 50 cent is not hungry anymore.
Co-sign. I don't think he's the best lyrically, but I think he has the most potential to become a star
He can get lyrical with it, but he can also keep it simple and funny (which is why someone ultra lyrical like Kool G Rap never blew in the mainstream because he's always making everything rhyme with everything else, and so it's harder for a non-hiphop fan to get into)
He also has that star look I think, like he's a cool looking guy (no homo lol), and isn't an ugly fuck (unlike jay) or a skinny weak looking mofo (snoop, no disrespect but who wants to be in the same shape as snoop), he has a cool voice (unlike jay), he can rap about a loooad of different topics well (unlike snoop who just raps about being a pimp nowadays), he can flow in a bunch of different ways and he has a really good sense of humor (unlike Game who has zero sense of humor) - so I think he has the best of all those stars without any of their weaknesses
In interviews he comes across really well, he's funny as hell, kinda nuts, very personable - he has natural star charisma and I can see why Dre picked him up and also why he's still at the label while others came and went
no disrespect but this is a stupid post,and you sound like BILL WALTON going on and on about the "greatness of jabbar",haha, you talking about snoops shape body or what not like you want your rappers to be buff or something? are you a woman? and how "cool" his voice sounds? are u a white soccer mom? hahahhaa, everything you said right there is useless, i mean you say jay is a ugly fucc yet he still go plat,got one of the baddest chiccs in music,got dudes trying to imitate him and the voice he uses to say some lines (including bishop!!) hell i might do it on occasion myself without knowing it networth, and snoop doesn't just rap about being a pimp? neva hafta to worry any one?, but even those who do, (the clipse) got fans still fiend'n to hear them spit that drug rap, come on now, i want to see bishop succeed like everyone else,and i think he will,he got some dope material and he got a funny personality,but don't try to use them guys as a reason he will succeed tho,cause you make it seem like they aint' did nothing,yet they 2 of the biggest artist in hip hop and from the 90's on up music history! plus game does make people laugh just ask all his lil fans on here, true story no blood clot yell
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sorry my friend, i ain't that stupid. I was about to make a longer post but had to go eat something.
Anyway, i think i understood well what you said.
Since the beggining when i heard that bishop was signed to dre i was wondering the same thing. I loved his flow since the first time i heard it(who i gotta kill...) and became a fan immediatly. I thought he had the ability to put different types of records and club bangers... + he was funny and wasn't on that gangsta shit...
But the fact is, when he signed to dre i was wondering if he would stay at aftermath because i haven't seen dude yet. We'll have to wait for a video to see if he has that charisme. Like the Game is one of the best when it comes to videos... When i saw the "certified gangsta" video for the first i tought that shit was crazy. Dude has alot of charisma. But Bishop isn't the same type of man at all.
And i know when you talked about the "it" factor, you were not just talking about the image. But also what he can bring to the table that will appeal to the masses. What bishop can bring might be the come back of real mcing but on a high scale of exposure (with mtv and all that shit).
Actually i'm sure hes gonna sell alot just because of dre... Just think about it. If dre put him alot on his detox album it means something. Dre knows what people like. Look out what bishop put out as mixtapes. 3 crazy albums in one year...He chooses crazy beats and can rhymes. Of course, crooked is on another level but he's too old and too gangsta.
Also, if he was boring and havent got that "IT factor", dre wouldn't be his friend. Warren g would not be his friend. Busta would not fuck with. Same for Chad Hugo... Bishop is working with eminem, 50 cent, busta rhymes... There must be something crazy about this dude. And its not just his flow and the fact that he's signed to the math. He might have the "THING" that make people become superstar. + he's a real down to earth and smart dude like glasses malone (the opposite of the game who is still acting like a child, no offense)...
Speaking of star charisma etc...i think stat quo is even worse...That's why his buzz never worked.
I hope bishop will do well and find an empty place in the rap game where he can sit or create a new one. I wonder with wich types of records he's gonna come out with the reformation, but i bet there will be alot of tracks about fucking bitches. Cause it has to be commercial, sex sales, and bl is crazy on tracks about hoes (for exemple the last track on warren g's album). I can also see him on a "ego trip" track like "i dominate" should be.
To conclude, i would say that bishop may not have the charisma and that "IT factor" you're talking about. But he can come up with crazy flows (go at it) and make some very interesting and appealing hooks + he can change his voice and his type of flow alot on tracks...
I know my paragraph was not well constructed but i hope you will not find me too stupid. And escuse my english it's not my first language
i get you my equal,you made good points, i think he has charisma personally, but all that matters to me is bishop doing bishop, fucc sales just make hot material and showcase his personality,that shit is harder then what people think. i mean i give game credit for riding out his persona no matter what people think (even if shit spoke about him was the truth) he still saying fucc it,and living out that image and it's working (his bill waltons on here are the proof haha), and the bottom line is making that cheese and he's doing that to the fullest and he got that top spot out here, and thats what bishop main focus should be present the best form of you out there on record yell
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Did that nigga just say "Unlike Game who has zero humor" hahahahahahhhahahahahaahahahahahahaaahaahaha! So humor is important? hahahhahahahahahhahah Jay-Zs voice is important?? hahahaha
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Box5 and the other dude Outrageous something..should just form a group..Anti-Game with Outrageous tranny lookin wife doin the hook. Lol at niggas who can't rap better than Game bein mad. I sence the smell of "the mad rappers" here.
I dont like Spider, and i CAN rap better than so thats why i can complain.
Game top 10 dead or alive
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Thnx for agreein with me
Game in top 10 dead or alive
The biggest gangsta in LA
The strongest nigga in the industry
Game timme!
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i feel sorry for you
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i feel sorry for you
Blackwallstreet
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i feel sorry for you
Blackwallstreet
mai negga :D
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Games swag >>> Bishops nerdy ass swag
Bishop is hatin on us real thugs on the block. This nigga reads books. SMH
he a negative ass monkey boy.
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Games swag >>> Bishops nerdy ass swag
Bishop is hatin on us real thugs on the block. This nigga reads books. SMH
he a negative ass monkey boy.
if you are not able to read and you are idiot its not his fault.
and you are a FAG not a thug :D
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Games swag >>> Bishops nerdy ass swag
Bishop is hatin on us real thugs on the block. This nigga reads books. SMH
he a negative ass monkey boy.
if you are not able to read and you are idiot its not his fault.
and you are a FAG not a thug :D
All im sayin is this nigga wears jeans with a plain white T...SMH he supposed to be from the westcoast
he gotta have some Chucks, Khaki suits and stay G'd up nigga. This nigga soft as hell.
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Games swag >>> Bishops nerdy ass swag
Bishop is hatin on us real thugs on the block. This nigga reads books. SMH
he a negative ass monkey boy.
if you are not able to read and you are idiot its not his fault.
and you are a FAG not a thug :D
All im sayin is this nigga wears jeans with a plain white T...SMH he supposed to be from the westcoast
he gotta have some Chucks, Khaki suits and stay G'd up nigga. This nigga soft as hell.
Common now messi, just cause he don't look like a ''G'' doesnt mean he aint hot in this industry. but yeah, some of these niggaz still mad Game is hot on the coast and spider is nowhere to be seen.
You're right tho, bishop has more of an ''intelligent'' rapper, talking about shit he reads in books and all, but i find its good, it gives an alternate kind of rap for when i dont feel like hearing soulja boy snappin or 50 cent saying he's gonna shoot n*ggaz up lol.
but you can dis agree lol, but it's still BWS B*tch.
Right ? ;D
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Why is Bishop in your most anticipated albums list then??? smh @ this confused dumbass. Your almost as bipolar as Game
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Why is Bishop in your most anticipated albums list then??? smh @ this confused dumbass. Your almost as bipolar as Game
Cuz im ready to hate. Feels good.
Bishop isn't intelligent, nigga dropped outta school cuz
his ass didn't agree with the school system and what they
learned..SMH just because you a nerd with no self esteem and no rhytm
nor swag doesn't mean your intelligent.