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Title: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 27, 2008, 10:10:16 AM
Riley and former Heat teammates fire back; call his comments "sad". (http://'http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basketball/heat/sfl-shaq0326,0,4523378.story)

By Ira Winderman | Sun-Sentinel.com
6:38 PM EDT, March 26, 2008

NEW YORK - Simmering differences between the Heat and Shaquille O'Neal boiled over Wednesday, with the massive center lobbing massive volleys at his former team.

In a column in the Boston Globe, O'Neal trashed former teammates and his former coach while speaking about his move to the title-contending Suns.

"We have professionals who know what to do," O'Neal said of playing for the Suns. "No one is asking me to play with Chris Quinn or Ricky Davis. I'm actually on a team again."

Until Wednesday, most in the Heat organization had attempted to frame the Feb. 6 deal that sent O'Neal to Phoenix for forward Shawn Marion and guard Marcus Banks as a win-win transaction, allowing O'Neal to remain in the playoff race and the Heat to begin to rebuild.

However O'Neal's comments struck a chord with both Heat coach Pat Riley and Davis, as the Heat prepared for Wednesday night's game against the Knicks at Madison Square Garden,

"It's sad that he says those things," Riley said. "We shared so much here, together, for three years, good and bad, three and a half years.

"I just think it's sad that he's got to do that."

Davis initially downplayed the comment, saying, "You can't take stuff personally in the NBA. You'd go crazy."

But with time to reflect, he later said, "It shows his true colors."


Quinn was diplomatic.

"To be honest with you, I don't have too much to say about it," he said. "I don't know. But it didn't hurt me."

Despite during the best of times calling Riley "his greatest coach ever," O'Neal apparently took a contrasting view as the team stumbled to the bottom of the standings.

"I guess when you have a lot of power, you can do what you want," O'Neal told the Globe of Riley's personnel moves. "Me? If I ever came into that kind of power, I think I'd be willing to admit it if I messed up."

Riley, in fact, has mentioned numerous times that he deserves a failing grade for his offseason personnel moves, moves limited by the $20 million annual salary he granted O'Neal as part of a five-year, $100 million contract agreement in the 2005 offseason.

Riley reiterated that Wednesday.

"I've taken blame, basically, for this," Riley said. "The buck stops at the top. I wish him nothing but the best. I don't have anything but good feeling for Shaq. I mean it. I don't care what he's saying right now."

Riley stopped short of saying there had to be a parting.

"He didn't want to be there," Riley said of when the Heat found itself trapped at the bottom of the standings. "He didn't want to play for that kind of situation. He's 35 years old and he wanted to go to a contender. And we sent him there. We sent him to Utopia and we're here left with the carnage. And I don't know why he's not happy."

The team previously had gone as far as to afford O'Neal significant time off to rehabilitate a sore left hip, only to have O'Neal say that he did not get proper treatment until he arrived in Phoenix.


Riley defended the work of veteran trainer Ron Culp and the team's medical staff, saying O'Neal was out of line to speak poorly of them.

"It's really a shame that he would insult those people like that, because they gave him care. They cared. They didn't kiss his butt. They cared about trying to get him well. I don't think that is the right thing for him to do. He can do whatever he wants to me. I don't care. That's okay, I don't care. But those men, they tried. ... That upsets me more than anything."


In the interview with the Globe, which came in advance of Wednesday's Celtics-Suns game in Boston, O'Neal portrayed himself as the victim.

"Ever since I was a little kid," he said, "I've been the scapegoat when things went wrong... I understand being the scapegoat comes with being the superstar...

"But when you have no control how things are handled, and you are still the scapegoat, I don't go for that."

Of Riley's comments, O'Neal said colorfully, "I don't give a shit how he interpreted it."

Reminded that reporters couldn't use the quote because of the expletive, he said, "Sure you can. You can quote me, brother. You can put an 's,' then the tic-tac-toe, the 'at' sign and then the other symbols."

O'Neal was critical about shots — as in, not getting enough of them — often during his tenure with the Heat. This year, he expressed those sentiments in the days that followed a 110-101 loss at Utah on Dec. 3 — a game where Quinn didn't play and O'Neal and Davis were on court together for 16 minutes, 2 seconds.

Keep in mind, O'Neal is the one who repeatedly referred to his Miami coach as "the great Pat Riley" during his time in South Florida. But he also was clearly miffed when Riley pulled him in the first minute of a game at New Jersey earlier this season for blowing a defensive assignment.

He also complained about not getting enough touches two days after going 8-for-15 in a 120-99 loss against Orlando, another game where he and Quinn never were on the court at the same time. Plus, O'Neal got into an argument with Riley during an early season practice, and words got so heated that Alonzo Mourning intervened to keep the two separated.

O'Neal did own up to the ugliness of the parting.

"I have not left any of the teams on good notes," he told the Globe. "We players have our own little fraternity. We talk about stuff, so I've got to figure the coaches do, too...

"So I came to Phoenix prepared to show them what kind of person I am."
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Bay Area Jat on March 27, 2008, 11:20:58 AM
shaq's a bitch and a fuckin police officer. if i were ricky davis i'd put a million on his head and have him whacked
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 27, 2008, 11:24:35 AM
shaq's a bitch


Did you just now come to this conclusion?
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Bay Area Jat on March 27, 2008, 11:41:55 AM
yea i just now came to this conclussion that is why im so enraged
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 27, 2008, 04:16:10 PM
haha riley owned shaq
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Antonio_ on March 28, 2008, 04:06:35 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 28, 2008, 04:32:50 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.

Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Antonio_ on March 28, 2008, 04:58:08 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.


Well they could ask Heat fans how they love Shaq now..
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 28, 2008, 06:19:52 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.



because when it came to NBA titles..........Shaq bringeth.....and Shaq taketh away  ;D
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 28, 2008, 06:58:18 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.




shaq brought you guys 3 titles in a row, maybe you should direct your hate at the guy who drove him from LA ;)
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 28, 2008, 06:59:14 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.



because when it came to NBA titles..........Shaq bringeth.....and Shaq taketh away  ;D

Plan on saying anything valid?
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 28, 2008, 07:09:07 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.



because when it came to NBA titles..........Shaq bringeth.....and Shaq taketh away  ;D

Plan on saying anything valid?

so far, it is valid.
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 28, 2008, 07:15:39 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.



because when it came to NBA titles..........Shaq bringeth.....and Shaq taketh away  ;D

Plan on saying anything valid?

so far, it is valid.

So Shaq has taken titles away from a team?
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 28, 2008, 07:17:01 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.



because when it came to NBA titles..........Shaq bringeth.....and Shaq taketh away  ;D

shaq got the title "taketh away" by Hakeem didn't he?
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 28, 2008, 07:19:49 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.




shaq brought you guys 3 titles in a row, maybe you should direct your hate at the guy who drove him from LA ;)


Himself? LOL


Shaq and Kobe brought us three consecutive titles, but it coulda been 6 consecutive if Shaq weren't such a douchebag.
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 28, 2008, 07:21:11 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.




shaq brought you guys 3 titles in a row, maybe you should direct your hate at the guy who drove him from LA ;)


Himself? LOL


Shaq and Kobe brought us three consecutive titles, but it coulda been 6 consecutive if Shaq weren't such a douchebag.

Shaq meant more in those runs than Kobe though.
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 28, 2008, 07:30:13 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.




shaq brought you guys 3 titles in a row, maybe you should direct your hate at the guy who drove him from LA ;)


Himself? LOL


Shaq and Kobe brought us three consecutive titles, but it coulda been 6 consecutive if Shaq weren't such a douchebag.

Shaq meant more in those runs than Kobe though.

It was equal. Take Kobe off those teams they would lose to the Kings. Take Shaq off those teams they would lose to Portland.
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 28, 2008, 07:32:00 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.




shaq brought you guys 3 titles in a row, maybe you should direct your hate at the guy who drove him from LA ;)


Himself? LOL


Shaq and Kobe brought us three consecutive titles, but it coulda been 6 consecutive if Shaq weren't such a douchebag.

Shaq meant more in those runs than Kobe though.

It was equal. Take Kobe off those teams they would lose to the Kings. Take Shaq off those teams they would lose to Portland.

if you put Shaq and D-wade on those teams and they'd win 5 rings in a row ;)
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 28, 2008, 08:06:09 PM
As I've said many times, Shaq is and will always be my favorite player. I liked him in Orlando, and I was SO excited when he came to the Purple and Gold and was sad to see him leave in 2004. But he has a personality problem, and he leaves after these huge dramas. He dissed Penny when Penny was nothing but the best to him, he dissed Kobe when it was clearly time for him to step down and let Kobe run the team, and he dissed the Heat when it was his salary and heart that cost the team huge. I love Shaq as a B-Ball player, but as a person he is one huge jerk. I'm glad the Lakers have the team they do, Gasol and Odom are stand up guys, Kobe has his team and his boys ready to win.
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 29, 2008, 01:35:51 AM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.




shaq brought you guys 3 titles in a row, maybe you should direct your hate at the guy who drove him from LA ;)


Himself? LOL


Shaq and Kobe brought us three consecutive titles, but it coulda been 6 consecutive if Shaq weren't such a douchebag.

Shaq meant more in those runs than Kobe though.

It was equal. Take Kobe off those teams they would lose to the Kings. Take Shaq off those teams they would lose to Portland.

if you put Shaq and D-wade on those teams and they'd win 5 rings in a row ;)


LMFAO@implying that Wade is better than Kobe. :stupid:
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on March 29, 2008, 03:22:53 AM
shaq is looking like a real asshole.  for real.
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 29, 2008, 07:39:49 AM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.




shaq brought you guys 3 titles in a row, maybe you should direct your hate at the guy who drove him from LA ;)


Himself? LOL


Shaq and Kobe brought us three consecutive titles, but it coulda been 6 consecutive if Shaq weren't such a douchebag.

Shaq meant more in those runs than Kobe though.

It was equal. Take Kobe off those teams they would lose to the Kings. Take Shaq off those teams they would lose to Portland.

if you put Shaq and D-wade on those teams and they'd win 5 rings in a row ;)


LMFAO@implying that Wade is better than Kobe. :stupid:

i'll take kobe over d-wade

but d-wade would get along with shaq and play his role unlike ball hog
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: jeromechickenbone on March 29, 2008, 09:43:46 AM
I like how Shaq shits on everybody.  Laker fans still aren't over the heartbreak of Shaq leaving them, lol.
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 29, 2008, 03:11:51 PM
I like how Shaq shits on everybody.  Laker fans still aren't over the heartbreak of Shaq leaving them, lol.


I know you don't honestly believe that...not after we got Gasol and Bynum, at least. :laugh:


We just think he's a douchebag...get over it.
Title: Re: Pat Riley and former Heat teammates fire back at Shaq's disses...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 29, 2008, 03:12:53 PM
Laker fans already know the deal.

Yet people don't understand why we still hate him.




shaq brought you guys 3 titles in a row, maybe you should direct your hate at the guy who drove him from LA ;)


Himself? LOL


Shaq and Kobe brought us three consecutive titles, but it coulda been 6 consecutive if Shaq weren't such a douchebag.

Shaq meant more in those runs than Kobe though.

It was equal. Take Kobe off those teams they would lose to the Kings. Take Shaq off those teams they would lose to Portland.

if you put Shaq and D-wade on those teams and they'd win 5 rings in a row ;)


LMFAO@implying that Wade is better than Kobe. :stupid:

i'll take kobe over d-wade

but d-wade would get along with shaq and play his role unlike ball hog


Are you fucking kidding me? LMFAO...Kobe complimented Shaq on the court WAY better than D-Wade ever could. Slap yourself, Crack.