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The education of Andrew Bynum
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By LZ Granderson
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Updated: April 17, 2008, 1:50 PM ET
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Do you remember what your life was like at the age of 17?
Were you a know-it-all? A rebel who didn't listen to your parents, or was too insecure to ask any of your many questions?
What about at 18 or 19?
Some of the biggest mistakes all of us have made happened during our late teens, as we wrestled with who we wanted to be, who we were expected to be, and who we actually were. And, thankfully, most of us spent that trial-and-error period in obscurity.
Andrew Bynum had no such good fortune.
He has gone through this error-prone maturation process in the public eye, while also juggling media scrutiny and the unrealistic expectations of fans. Although Bynum says it's unlikely he'll return from his knee injury any sooner than the Western Conference finals -- assuming his team is still playing -- this has been, without question, the year he finally silenced his critics. Not an easy feat when you consider that, less than a year ago, he had to endure the frenzy surrounding a proposed Jason Kidd trade and the subsequent remarks made about him by someone I'm sure he thought he could trust.
Andrew Bynum and David Stern
AP Photo/Kathy Willens
Remember, back in '05, Andrew Bynum was the youngest player ever drafted into the NBA.
"Andrew Bynum? What the f---?" Kobe Bryant reportedly said on tape last spring. "Are you kidding me? Andrew Bynum? F------ ship his ass out."
The kid was 19.
True, it was Bynum's choice to enter the NBA. So, no, he should not be coddled.
True, he's a millionaire now, and appears headed toward a much bigger payday in the not-too-distant future.
And true, no one's ever died from being publicly criticized.
But as I sat with Bynum -- and teammates Jordan Farmar, Ronny Turiaf and Sasha Vujacic -- recently, I couldn't help but feel a little sorry for him. Fame and fortune can buy you fancy cars, and get you seated quickly in a city's hot restaurant, but they cannot buy back the one thing we all take for granted -- youth. You get only one crack at it, and for the most part, Bynum traded the latter part of his to be a Laker.
On the outside looking in, it seems like a no-brainer swap. Hell, on the inside looking out I'm sure that swap is still pretty sweet. But as the soft-spoken Bynum reminded me, that decision comes with a fairly heavy price.
"I was so young when I came into the league I didn't really have a chance to do any of that stuff," he said. "And so it's tough, especially dating, because I am famous now, so it's hard to tell if a girl likes you for you or because you're a basketball player."
With everything else going on with you emotionally, could you imagine going through your late teens having no idea whom you can trust with so much at stake? When all you want to do is go out and meet a girl or a guy and just hang out, without worrying if all the person sees is what you can do for them?
Those words from Kobe had to sting the young center.
When you throw a talented kid into the very adult world of professional sports, there is a certain amount of arrested development. Some teenage athletes have the skill set to be successful at the game they are being paid to play, but not the wherewithal to comprehend the other games that life offers. Something as simple as who pays for dinner can be interpreted in a multitude of ways, and yet neither scenario offers very much insight into whether or not what the other person is saying to you is actually the truth. It's as if your life is being directed by M. Night Shyamalan, and you constantly have to have your guard up, looking for the twist at the end.
Sometimes these kids turn out OK, like Kevin Garnett. Sometimes they have to go through a rough patch before getting it together, like Jennifer Capriati. And then there are those who just never should have been put in that situation in the first place, like Eddie Griffin.
The thing is, you never really know who can carry what until they pick up the load and start their journey. If they're blessed like Bynum, they have a strong family structure that can help them along the way. But not even the love and support of the world's greatest mom -- and it's my understanding Bynum's mother is in the running for that award -- can make up for the kind of lessons that can be taught only by life.
As the other men spoke of dating, and college, and going out, the 20-year-old Bynum sat quietly, wide-eyed, hearing about a world he knows nothing about and never will.
That is a burden Bynum has to carry publicly.
That is a burden he has to carry alone.
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And that's how it is and that is also why y'all fans can shut it with that Bynum talk. Niggas young as fuck and had a knee injury, and now millions of fans are publically counting on him to come back and deliver in the playoffs to get his team a championship! HOW FUCKED UP THAT IS, OH MY! STOP IT!
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What's your obsession? STFU already...we all know you wish you were a Laker fan deep down inside.
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Lol its fucked up that we're rooting for him to return and we're hoping that he can still perform and produce the way he did before that freak injury? If anything we're giving him an amazing confidence boost.
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Why you guys hatin? I thought I was being nice
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You were. But we still don't like you.
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I don't dislike 7even...I just think his obsession with the Lakers is quite strange.
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Its like that. Hack Wilson is the same way. Go to mixmakers.com and see how they act. Those fuckers hate the Lakers and Kobe and most of them don't even have a team or favorite player, they just root against us. When you become the greatest franchise in sports history you have to expect haters to grow a fascination with hating us.
7even I love you tho man (no homo). I'm gonna email you a Devin Harris stat sheet every game next year just so we can always have direct communication.
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^LOL...Crack Wilson is more of a gimmick poster, though.
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Well Spice is...wait you already covered the gimmick posters topic. Nevermind :-X
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Well Spice is...wait you already covered the gimmick posters topic. Nevermind :-X
LMAO!! What a lame, I'm a die-hard Pacer fan and everyone that knows me knows how legit I am.
BabyG you have always reminded me of that type of fan that watches alot of ball I guess but doesn't really realize whats going on.
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BabyG you have always reminded me of that type of fan that watches alot of ball I guess but doesn't really realize whats going on.
LOL
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Its like that. Hack Wilson is the same way. Go to mixmakers.com and see how they act. Those fuckers hate the Lakers and Kobe and most of them don't even have a team or favorite player, they just root against us. When you become the greatest franchise in sports history you have to expect haters to grow a fascination with hating us.
7even I love you tho man (no homo). I'm gonna email you a Devin Harris stat sheet every game next year just so we can always have direct communication.
hAHAHAHAHAHAHAH the Lakers aren't even the best franchise in basketball, let alone all sports. and Yankees > any team.
this is funny.
gangstaboogie, until i tattoo Hack Wilson on my dick keep my name out your mouth.
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Its like that. Hack Wilson is the same way. Go to mixmakers.com and see how they act. Those fuckers hate the Lakers and Kobe and most of them don't even have a team or favorite player, they just root against us. When you become the greatest franchise in sports history you have to expect haters to grow a fascination with hating us.
7even I love you tho man (no homo). I'm gonna email you a Devin Harris stat sheet every game next year just so we can always have direct communication.
hAHAHAHAHAHAHAH the Lakers aren't even the best franchise in basketball, let alone all sports. and Yankees > any team.
this is funny.
gangstaboogie, until i tattoo Hack Wilson on my dick keep my name out your mouth.
You like gay blowjobs too? :grumpy:
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Its like that. Hack Wilson is the same way. Go to mixmakers.com and see how they act. Those fuckers hate the Lakers and Kobe and most of them don't even have a team or favorite player, they just root against us. When you become the greatest franchise in sports history you have to expect haters to grow a fascination with hating us.
7even I love you tho man (no homo). I'm gonna email you a Devin Harris stat sheet every game next year just so we can always have direct communication.
hAHAHAHAHAHAHAH the Lakers aren't even the best franchise in basketball, let alone all sports. and Yankees > any team.
this is funny.
gangstaboogie, until i tattoo Hack Wilson on my dick keep my name out your mouth.
You like gay blowjobs too? :grumpy:
it's a Crooked I line but no I would never cheat on you baby
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Yeah LOL at the Laker's being the best franchise in sports history that is hilarious when they aren't even the best franchise in the history of Basketball, Boston is. They have more championships, it's that simple, end of discussion. And Yankees are best franchise in sports history obviously.
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Yeah LOL at the Laker's being the best franchise in sports history that is hilarious when they aren't even the best franchise in the history of Basketball, Boston is. They have more championships, it's that simple, end of discussion. And Yankees are best franchise in sports history obviously.
So the Celtics winning 90% of their championships in one era when there was barely any competition in the sport of basketball makes them a better franchise? LMFAO! There's no debate here, Spice. Lakers have had way more overall success than Boston and didn't collect all their rings in one era. We've had way more dynasties and success over the years. Lakers are currently the biggest franchise in sports. No question.
LOL@acting like 20+ years of being irrelevant in the NBA doesn't bring the Celtics stock down...that's too much. :laugh:
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Well Spice is...wait you already covered the gimmick posters topic. Nevermind :-X
LMAO!! What a lame, I'm a die-hard Pacer fan and everyone that knows me knows how legit I am.
BabyG you have always reminded me of that type of fan that watches alot of ball I guess but doesn't really realize whats going on.
You're still hella gimmicky.
I recall all of your early post on this forum being you quoting someone else and just saying "I agree. +1. You're a great poseter".
Then lately you've just been saying random bs for shock value.
Aren't you the one who said the Kings when 100% healthy are as good as the Lakers?
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Yeah LOL at the Laker's being the best franchise in sports history that is hilarious when they aren't even the best franchise in the history of Basketball, Boston is. They have more championships, it's that simple, end of discussion. And Yankees are best franchise in sports history obviously.
So the Celtics winning 90% of their championships in one era when there was barely any competition in the sport of basketball makes them a better franchise? LMFAO! There's no debate here, Spice. Lakers have had way more overall success than Boston and didn't collect all their rings in one era. We've had way more dynasties and success over the years. Lakers are currently the biggest franchise in sports. No question.
LOL@acting like 20+ years of being irrelevant in the NBA doesn't bring the Celtics stock down...that's too much. :laugh:
so lets see here
50s
60s
70s
80s
1 era? hAhahahahahaha. 3 decades - thats a long era
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Rumor has it that Bynum is going to go under the knife for some surgery.
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Yeah LOL at the Laker's being the best franchise in sports history that is hilarious when they aren't even the best franchise in the history of Basketball, Boston is. They have more championships, it's that simple, end of discussion. And Yankees are best franchise in sports history obviously.
So the Celtics winning 90% of their championships in one era when there was barely any competition in the sport of basketball makes them a better franchise? LMFAO! There's no debate here, Spice. Lakers have had way more overall success than Boston and didn't collect all their rings in one era. We've had way more dynasties and success over the years. Lakers are currently the biggest franchise in sports. No question.
LOL@acting like 20+ years of being irrelevant in the NBA doesn't bring the Celtics stock down...that's too much. :laugh:
so lets see here
50s
60s
70s
80s
1 era? hAhahahahahaha. 3 decades - thats a long era
when did they get a majority (9 of their 16) titles? In the 60s.......That's one era, dumbass. Lakers final appearances=28. Celtics final appearances=19. Once again, just because you dominated the 60s doesn't make you the biggest OVERALL franchise. Any jackass with half a brain could tell you that the Lakers are by far the most storied franchise in the league.
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16 < 14?
i've never heard of a team being bashed for winning 8 titles in a row. I can't believe I'm seeing the Celtics LOSING credit because of when they won, but yet you'll go and count those early 40s and 50's Laker teams with no problem
what a joke.
16 > 14 8)
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they're not losing credit because they won, genius, they're losing credit as an overall franchise because most of their wins are bunched up into one era...get it yet? LOL. Crack, you need to lay off that shit, man.
winning one more title can never make up for your way shittier winning percentages and 20+ years of being irrelevant in the league.
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I don't dislike 7even...I just think his obsession with the Lakers is quite strange.
fucking christ if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black
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I don't dislike 7even...I just think his obsession with the Lakers is quite strange.
fucking christ if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black
;D
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they're not losing credit because they won, genius, they're losing credit as an overall franchise because most of their wins are bunched up into one era...get it yet? LOL. Crack, you need to lay off that shit, man.
winning one more title can never make up for your way shittier winning percentages and 20+ years of being irrelevant in the league.
well when it's 17-14 at the end of the year we'll see who's talking loud
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they're not losing credit because they won, genius, they're losing credit as an overall franchise because most of their wins are bunched up into one era...get it yet? LOL. Crack, you need to lay off that shit, man.
winning one more title can never make up for your way shittier winning percentages and 20+ years of being irrelevant in the league.
well when it's 17-14 at the end of the year we'll see who's talking loud
or 16 - 15.... :)
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they're not losing credit because they won, genius, they're losing credit as an overall franchise because most of their wins are bunched up into one era...get it yet? LOL. Crack, you need to lay off that shit, man.
winning one more title can never make up for your way shittier winning percentages and 20+ years of being irrelevant in the league.
well when it's 17-14 at the end of the year we'll see who's talking loud
or 16 - 15.... :)
Actually, it'll be 16-16 as a franchise. 8)
then these Celtic fans will have ZERO claim to say the Celtic franchise is anywhere near the Lakers.
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I don't dislike 7even...I just think his obsession with the Lakers is quite strange.
fucking christ if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black
I'm a Laker fan, you fucking dumbass.
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they're not losing credit because they won, genius, they're losing credit as an overall franchise because most of their wins are bunched up into one era...get it yet? LOL. Crack, you need to lay off that shit, man.
winning one more title can never make up for your way shittier winning percentages and 20+ years of being irrelevant in the league.
well when it's 17-14 at the end of the year we'll see who's talking loud
or 16 - 15.... :)
Actually, it'll be 16-16 as a franchise. 8)
then these Celtic fans will have ZERO claim to say the Celtic franchise is anywhere near the Lakers.
the same fans that haven't seen a championship in 20 + years? when some of them weren't even alive or were in diapers? 8)
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they're not losing credit because they won, genius, they're losing credit as an overall franchise because most of their wins are bunched up into one era...get it yet? LOL. Crack, you need to lay off that shit, man.
winning one more title can never make up for your way shittier winning percentages and 20+ years of being irrelevant in the league.
well when it's 17-14 at the end of the year we'll see who's talking loud
or 16 - 15.... :)
Actually, it'll be 16-16 as a franchise. 8)
then these Celtic fans will have ZERO claim to say the Celtic franchise is anywhere near the Lakers.
LOL
so yeah 16 < 16 now?
hahahahahahahahaha. funny shit.
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Bynum is officialy ruled out of the first round Vs. Denver.
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I don't dislike 7even...I just think his obsession with the Lakers is quite strange.
fucking christ if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black
I'm a Laker fan, you fucking dumbass.
Nah you're a Laker groupie.
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they're not losing credit because they won, genius, they're losing credit as an overall franchise because most of their wins are bunched up into one era...get it yet? LOL. Crack, you need to lay off that shit, man.
winning one more title can never make up for your way shittier winning percentages and 20+ years of being irrelevant in the league.
well when it's 17-14 at the end of the year we'll see who's talking loud
or 16 - 15.... :)
Actually, it'll be 16-16 as a franchise. 8)
then these Celtic fans will have ZERO claim to say the Celtic franchise is anywhere near the Lakers.
the same fans that haven't seen a championship in 20 + years? when some of them weren't even alive or were in diapers? 8)
Lol i'm tellin you. The last time the Celtics won a championship was a year before I was born.
Which reminds me, its my 21st Birthday tomorrow :o
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I don't dislike 7even...I just think his obsession with the Lakers is quite strange.
fucking christ if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black
I'm a Laker fan, you fucking dumbass.
Nah you're a Laker groupie.
And you're a NIK groupie. congratufuckinlations!