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Title: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 19, 2008, 11:43:22 AM
Not so much on this forum but I've been hearing a lot of sports analysts and people on forums saying that we should be worried about how Gasol performs against Denver because he "chokes" in the playoffs. So I had to do a lil breakdown...


2004 vs. Spurs (2nd best team in the West)
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Gasol: 18.5ppg, 5rpg, 2.5apg, 1spg, 1.5bpg on 57.1% shooting

Grizzlies core: Mike Miller, Bonzi Wells, Shane Battier, James Posey, Jason Williams

Although they were good enough to go 50-32, they were by no means anywhere near ready to face the Spurs. But 18 ppg on 57% doesn't look like a choke job to me.



2005 vs. Suns (best team in the West)
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Gasol: 21.2ppg, 7.5rpg, 2.5apg, 0.5spg, 1.7bpg on 48.8% shooting

Grizzlies core: Mike Miller, Bonzi Wells, Shane Battier, James Posey, Jason Williams

Despite their 45-37 record, they had to face the team with the best record in the West. This was Nash's first MVP season, and he had Stoudemire, Marion, Joe Johnson, and Quintin Richardson with him. But again, them losing the series isn't a reflection of Gasol, he managed to improve in every statistical category other than blocks and fg%



2006 VS. Mavericks (2nd best team in the West)
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Gasol: 20.2ppg, 6.7rpg, 3apg, 0.5spg, 1.2bpg on 43.3 % shooting

Grizzlies core: Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Chucky Atkins, Eddie Jones

They were only 1 game away from winning 50 games again (49-33). Unfortunately, they had to face the West Conference champs that year, and this time their core was a lot weaker. I will hold Gasol accountable for this: his rebounding and shooting was horrible.



Bottom line: you can't judge a superstar for being on weak teams. This year Gasol has the best player in the league and the greatest coach of all time behind him. Don't label him a choke artist till he's givin a fair chance.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Citizen-Y on April 19, 2008, 12:35:46 PM
Cause he has never seen a playoff victory at all.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Hatesrats™ on April 19, 2008, 12:39:00 PM
New Team, Diff Situation..
won't matter this year bro.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 19, 2008, 12:55:12 PM
Cause he has never seen a playoff victory at all.


Yea...as the first option. Lets see what happens when you take an elite franchise player and put him in a secondary role. :-X


Memphis was always a decent team, at best. No way should they have even won 50 games with those rosters. Gasol is a true competitor.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 19, 2008, 01:12:12 PM
Cause he has never seen a playoff victory at all.

Like I said, he always had to face one of the Western Conference's juggernauts. You can't hold that against him. I don't hold it against Mike Miller, Bonzi, J-Will, or any of those other guys. Those were just decent teams who managed to overachieve themselves into a fuckin dead end.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Citizen-Y on April 19, 2008, 01:13:34 PM
Cause he has never seen a playoff victory at all.

Like I said, he always had to face one of the Western Conference's juggernauts. You can't hold that against him. I don't hold it against Mike Miller, Bonzi, J-Will, or any of those other guys. Those were just decent teams who managed to overachieve themselves into a fuckin dead end.

Atleast win a game.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Don Jacob on April 19, 2008, 05:27:32 PM
when you got bryant and odom taking off the scoring and rebounding pressure for you i'm sure he'll be doing fine in the playoffs.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 19, 2008, 06:51:32 PM
atleast Tracy Mcgrady can win a game lol
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: WestCoasta on April 20, 2008, 02:11:42 PM
seems to be doin good right now
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 20, 2008, 02:55:31 PM
1st playoff win: 36 Points, 16 Rebounds, 8 Assists, 3 Blocks  :o
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Antonio_ on April 20, 2008, 03:02:16 PM
First of all.. i don't see him getting enought respect for that but.. this dude has won an European Championship for Spain. That's a great competition, with a lot of great teams. And Pau played extremely well leading his Nation to the glory. That said, his record was 0-12, true. He never really had a chance, tho'. I mean Memphis was always been the worst team in them 3 series, so i can't blame him. Like NIK said, he's an excellent 2nd team option.

Anyway... 36 pts, 16 rebounds, 8 assist.. you can update the record to 1-12. 8)
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: westsiderider323 on April 20, 2008, 03:07:05 PM
36 pts? choker?? naw that sounds more like T-Mac
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Don Jacob on April 20, 2008, 03:26:02 PM
well you can now officially erase that notion!
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 20, 2008, 06:56:13 PM
Gasol shitted on them suckaz.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 14, 2008, 06:33:01 PM
LOL @ the thread title
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 14, 2008, 06:39:37 PM
LOL
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 14, 2008, 07:23:48 PM
Well, to be fair...He killed in the playoffs. It's the Finals where he's been having trouble...Then again, it's his first time there.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 14, 2008, 07:47:18 PM
Well, to be fair...He killed in the playoffs. It's the Finals where he's been having trouble...Then again, it's his first time there.

it's also the first time in the finals for KG, Paul Pierce,.....hell ALL CELTICS PLAYERS besides Cassell and Posey
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Corporate Hustler on June 14, 2008, 10:37:15 PM
celtics > lakers
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 15, 2008, 02:03:14 PM
Well, to be fair...He killed in the playoffs. It's the Finals where he's been having trouble...Then again, it's his first time there.

it's also the first time in the finals for KG, Paul Pierce,.....hell ALL CELTICS PLAYERS besides Cassell and Posey


KG and Pierce have also not been so great in these Finals
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on June 15, 2008, 02:49:30 PM
LOL

I would up one of your old threads but I see you didn't exist when KG was in Minnesota and Rogaine Allen was in Seattle.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: WestCoasta on June 15, 2008, 07:34:41 PM
Gasol is really pissin me off, guy can't create shit for himself
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 15, 2008, 08:19:05 PM
LOL

I would up one of your old threads but I see you didn't exist when KG was in Minnesota and Rogaine Allen was in Seattle.

didn't know of this forum

you really take the time to dig through posts going back to last summer??  you need a social circle sir.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 15, 2008, 09:19:02 PM
19 points (6-10 FG), 13 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 blocks, 1 steal. THERE WE GO!

Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on June 15, 2008, 09:58:06 PM
LOL

I would up one of your old threads but I see you didn't exist when KG was in Minnesota and Rogaine Allen was in Seattle.

didn't know of this forum

you really take the time to dig through posts going back to last summer??  you need a social circle sir.

Don't need to, dumbass: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?action=profile;u=16073

Date Registered:     August 11, 2007
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 15, 2008, 11:07:50 PM
Well, to be fair...He killed in the playoffs. It's the Finals where he's been having trouble...Then again, it's his first time there.

it's also the first time in the finals for KG, Paul Pierce,.....hell ALL CELTICS PLAYERS besides Cassell and Posey


KG and Pierce have also not been so great in these Finals

Pierce has done pretty well. KG and Ray Allen are historic choke artists though. I seriously still have no idea how KG was even in the MVP conversation. I guess its not entirely his fault though (at least this year). I have no idea why Doc Rivers isn't posting KG on the low block against Gasol/odom/whoever 2 out of every 3 plays. He can't be stopped there. He starts choking when he settles for those mid range jumpers though. Weird strategy.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 15, 2008, 11:59:28 PM
LOL@blaming Doc for KG being soft and shooting jumpers instead of taking it in.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 16, 2008, 12:52:26 PM
LOL@blaming Doc for KG being soft and shooting jumpers instead of taking it in.

Doc definitely isn't drawing anything up to get KG posted on the low block. Lets not act like Doc isn't a horrible coach all of a sudden. He was inches away from being fired until Ainge threw the Celtics future away for KG and Allen. Rivers was widely regarded as a shit coach until he had 3 stars to make him look good.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 16, 2008, 01:49:04 PM
LOL@blaming Doc for KG being soft and shooting jumpers instead of taking it in.

Doc definitely isn't drawing anything up to get KG posted on the low block. Lets not act like Doc isn't a horrible coach all of a sudden. He was inches away from being fired until Ainge threw the Celtics future away for KG and Allen. Rivers was widely regarded as a shit coach until he had 3 stars to make him look good.


WTF are you talking about? KG has ALWAYS been soft and passive...LMAO. There's a reason he only made it out of the first round ONCE during his career with Minnesota. KG is not a clutch player. He's not an aggressive player. He's not a player you can depend upon...You call Gasol soft, and then you blame Doc Rivers for KG's softness...Don't ever try claiming you're not a Laker hater again...PeACe
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 16, 2008, 02:38:38 PM
LOL@blaming Doc for KG being soft and shooting jumpers instead of taking it in.

Doc definitely isn't drawing anything up to get KG posted on the low block. Lets not act like Doc isn't a horrible coach all of a sudden. He was inches away from being fired until Ainge threw the Celtics future away for KG and Allen. Rivers was widely regarded as a shit coach until he had 3 stars to make him look good.


WTF are you talking about? KG has ALWAYS been soft and passive...LMAO. There's a reason he only made it out of the first round ONCE during his career with Minnesota. KG is not a clutch player. He's not an aggressive player. He's not a player you can depend upon...You call Gasol soft, and then you blame Doc Rivers for KG's softness...Don't ever try claiming you're not a Laker hater again...PeACe

 You're grasping at straws now. You just really wish I was a laker hater for whatever reason. I didn't even mention anything about the lakers and in fact I have noted in an earlier post that KG is a historic playoff choke artist (again, what does that have to do with the lakers?). All you're doing by trying to call me a laker hater in a post that doesn't have anything to do with the lakers is confirming what an insane laker homer you are.

 Now, moving on to something that has to do with the lakers that YOU brought up, yes Gasol is soft, and if KG is soft as you claim, then Gasol is exponentially softer as he gets abused by KG anytime the Celts have the common sense required to post KG up.

 Acknowledging this FACT does not make me a laker hater. It means that somebody for the Celtics can't see the obvious if they arent posting up KG way more than they are. I would point my finger at Doc since he's supposed to be the brains of the operation.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 16, 2008, 04:11:44 PM
LOL@blaming Doc for KG being soft and shooting jumpers instead of taking it in.

Doc definitely isn't drawing anything up to get KG posted on the low block. Lets not act like Doc isn't a horrible coach all of a sudden. He was inches away from being fired until Ainge threw the Celtics future away for KG and Allen. Rivers was widely regarded as a shit coach until he had 3 stars to make him look good.


WTF are you talking about? KG has ALWAYS been soft and passive...LMAO. There's a reason he only made it out of the first round ONCE during his career with Minnesota. KG is not a clutch player. He's not an aggressive player. He's not a player you can depend upon...You call Gasol soft, and then you blame Doc Rivers for KG's softness...Don't ever try claiming you're not a Laker hater again...PeACe

 You're grasping at straws now. You just really wish I was a laker hater for whatever reason. I didn't even mention anything about the lakers and in fact I have noted in an earlier post that KG is a historic playoff choke artist (again, what does that have to do with the lakers?). All you're doing by trying to call me a laker hater in a post that doesn't have anything to do with the lakers is confirming what an insane laker homer you are.

 Now, moving on to something that has to do with the lakers that YOU brought up, yes Gasol is soft, and if KG is soft as you claim, then Gasol is exponentially softer as he gets abused by KG anytime the Celts have the common sense required to post KG up.

 Acknowledging this FACT does not make me a laker hater. It means that somebody for the Celtics can't see the obvious if they arent posting up KG way more than they are. I would point my finger at Doc since he's supposed to be the brains of the operation.


KG DOESN'T POST UP CONSISTENTLY BECAUSE HE'S SOFT! What don't you get about that?  That's like me saying "oh, Odom can take KG off the dribble any time he wants to!"...sure he can, but if he doesn't do it on a consistent basis, you blame it on HIM, not the coaching staff. LOL. Learn how to analyze basketball. Gasol, as shitty as he's been playing, has outperformed KG in these Finals. Gasol is a power forward playing the role of a center, thus making him look even softer than he is. KG CHOOSES to shoot 20 foot jumpers, that's a big part of his game. I don't wish you were a Laker hater, in fact, I wish NO ONE hated the Lakers... I'm simply stating the obvious. The fact of the matter is, you diss Gasol for being soft as fuck at any chance you get, but as soon as KG shows his softness it's "oh, the coaching staff isn't telling him to post up!". LMAO. Get the fuck outta here, man. You've been on Crack Wilson status these past few days...PeACe
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: 7even on June 16, 2008, 04:52:24 PM
why would a person take so many long 2s to begin with? take a 3 for more points or get nearer to the basket for a higher %. it's not like he's taking those off a flashy dribble or anything.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 16, 2008, 06:33:33 PM
LOL@blaming Doc for KG being soft and shooting jumpers instead of taking it in.

Doc definitely isn't drawing anything up to get KG posted on the low block. Lets not act like Doc isn't a horrible coach all of a sudden. He was inches away from being fired until Ainge threw the Celtics future away for KG and Allen. Rivers was widely regarded as a shit coach until he had 3 stars to make him look good.


WTF are you talking about? KG has ALWAYS been soft and passive...LMAO. There's a reason he only made it out of the first round ONCE during his career with Minnesota. KG is not a clutch player. He's not an aggressive player. He's not a player you can depend upon...You call Gasol soft, and then you blame Doc Rivers for KG's softness...Don't ever try claiming you're not a Laker hater again...PeACe

 You're grasping at straws now. You just really wish I was a laker hater for whatever reason. I didn't even mention anything about the lakers and in fact I have noted in an earlier post that KG is a historic playoff choke artist (again, what does that have to do with the lakers?). All you're doing by trying to call me a laker hater in a post that doesn't have anything to do with the lakers is confirming what an insane laker homer you are.

 Now, moving on to something that has to do with the lakers that YOU brought up, yes Gasol is soft, and if KG is soft as you claim, then Gasol is exponentially softer as he gets abused by KG anytime the Celts have the common sense required to post KG up.

 Acknowledging this FACT does not make me a laker hater. It means that somebody for the Celtics can't see the obvious if they arent posting up KG way more than they are. I would point my finger at Doc since he's supposed to be the brains of the operation.


KG DOESN'T POST UP CONSISTENTLY BECAUSE HE'S SOFT! What don't you get about that?  That's like me saying "oh, Odom can take KG off the dribble any time he wants to!"...sure he can, but if he doesn't do it on a consistent basis, you blame it on HIM, not the coaching staff. LOL. Learn how to analyze basketball. Gasol, as shitty as he's been playing, has outperformed KG in these Finals. Gasol is a power forward playing the role of a center, thus making him look even softer than he is. KG CHOOSES to shoot 20 foot jumpers, that's a big part of his game. I don't wish you were a Laker hater, in fact, I wish NO ONE hated the Lakers... I'm simply stating the obvious. The fact of the matter is, you diss Gasol for being soft as fuck at any chance you get, but as soon as KG shows his softness it's "oh, the coaching staff isn't telling him to post up!". LMAO. Get the fuck outta here, man. You've been on Crack Wilson status these past few days...PeACe

Show me where I said its ALL Doc's fault. Doc deserves some of the blame in KGs ineffectiveness too. A coaches job is to know your staff and utilize their abilities in ways that maximize their abilities and overall benefit to the team. I have already acknowledged at least 3 times now that KG is a known playoff choke artist so Im not blaming Doc alone, but you can definitely bet a lot of the blame rests with him.

And just for the record Gasol has not outperformed KG. Look at the finals numbers for both of them:

KG vs Lakers                               Gasol vs Celtics
------------------                              --------------------
pts- 16.6                                   pts- 15.4

reb- 12.8                                   reb- 10.6

ast- 2.8                                     ast- 3.6

stl- 1.4                                      stl- 0.6

blk- 1.0                                     blk- 0.6

to- 3.2                                      to- 1.6

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd hardly call that "outperforming." Maybe he outperformed in winning the hearts of laker homers the world over, but thats about it. Pretty comparable numbers (with the slight edge going to KG) for guys that I think we can at least both agree have not lived up to their billing to this point.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 16, 2008, 06:55:12 PM
Why do you always think stats determine everything? LOL. Watch the games. Do you realize Garnett is Boston's MVP, and yet has come up shitty in pretty much every game? (9-22, 7-19, 6-21). THIS IS A 7 FOOTER, THEIR SUPPOSED MVP!


By your logic, you can hold coaches accountable for ANYTHING. Lamar decides not to drive it in, but rather shoot jumpers=Phil Jackson's fault. Gasol plays soft and acts passive on offense=Phil jackson's fault. Do you realize how dumb your basketball logic is? GARNETT HAS ALWAYS PLAYED THIS WAY. Doc, himself, is wondering why KG doesn't post up and take it strong more often. He probably has nightmares about it. LOL. Come on, now.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 16, 2008, 07:08:33 PM
Why do you always think stats determine everything? LOL. Watch the games. Do you realize Garnett is Boston's MVP, and yet has come up shitty in pretty much every game? (9-22, 7-19, 6-21). THIS IS A 7 FOOTER, THEIR SUPPOSED MVP!


By your logic, you can hold coaches accountable for ANYTHING. Lamar decides not to drive it in, but rather shoot jumpers=Phil Jackson's fault. Gasol plays soft and acts passive on offense=Phil jackson's fault. Do you realize how dumb your basketball logic is? GARNETT HAS ALWAYS PLAYED THIS WAY. Doc, himself, is wondering why KG doesn't post up and take it strong more often. He probably has nightmares about it. LOL. Come on, now.

Why do you only pay attention to parts of my posts? If you paid attention to the whole thing you wouldn't have anything to be arguing about. You just like arguing, I get it.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: eS El Duque on June 16, 2008, 07:12:53 PM
Why do you always think stats determine everything? LOL. Watch the games. Do you realize Garnett is Boston's MVP, and yet has come up shitty in pretty much every game? (9-22, 7-19, 6-21). THIS IS A 7 FOOTER, THEIR SUPPOSED MVP!


By your logic, you can hold coaches accountable for ANYTHING. Lamar decides not to drive it in, but rather shoot jumpers=Phil Jackson's fault. Gasol plays soft and acts passive on offense=Phil jackson's fault. Do you realize how dumb your basketball logic is? GARNETT HAS ALWAYS PLAYED THIS WAY. Doc, himself, is wondering why KG doesn't post up and take it strong more often. He probably has nightmares about it. LOL. Come on, now.

Why do you only pay attention to parts of my posts? If you paid attention to the whole thing you wouldn't have anything to be arguing about. You just like arguing, I get it.

You should've stopped a while ago. Nik is on crack half the time. I think he has a problem reading lol? Or he's just doing this for the fun of it. I'd recommand you just stop till the next thread. Cause you made your point a couple posts...even if NIK doesn't want to believe. So just chill, you're wasting your time.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 16, 2008, 07:26:13 PM
Why do you always think stats determine everything? LOL. Watch the games. Do you realize Garnett is Boston's MVP, and yet has come up shitty in pretty much every game? (9-22, 7-19, 6-21). THIS IS A 7 FOOTER, THEIR SUPPOSED MVP!


By your logic, you can hold coaches accountable for ANYTHING. Lamar decides not to drive it in, but rather shoot jumpers=Phil Jackson's fault. Gasol plays soft and acts passive on offense=Phil jackson's fault. Do you realize how dumb your basketball logic is? GARNETT HAS ALWAYS PLAYED THIS WAY. Doc, himself, is wondering why KG doesn't post up and take it strong more often. He probably has nightmares about it. LOL. Come on, now.

Why do you only pay attention to parts of my posts? If you paid attention to the whole thing you wouldn't have anything to be arguing about. You just like arguing, I get it.

You should've stopped a while ago. Nik is on crack half the time. I think he has a problem reading lol? Or he's just doing this for the fun of it. I'd recommand you just stop till the next thread. Cause you made your point a couple posts...even if NIK doesn't want to believe. So just chill, you're wasting your time.

Yeah, you see what I'm dealing with? he's just a bitter Celtic hater, like totally fersher surfs up dood Beverly Hills 90210.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: blue crew on June 16, 2008, 07:40:03 PM
a cuzz, the nigga is jewish, has 35,000 posts on the internet, admits he spent the last 10 years online on this site and has a laker tattoo. hahaha, the nicca is the definition of a faggot ass groupie stan, how much more groupie luv can u get than that? homeboy is mad cuz he's jewish and cuz he knows his shietty ass team had all the hype were favorites and he predicted them to win in 4 or 5 games and now they gettin they ass handed to them.

i bet the fag hugs his kobe pillow while he types all these posts all mad. this shiet online is like his nerdy ass lakers treehouse.

kg is playin better than pau 'charmin' gasol, who everyone in the world has called the softest thing since jews in europe. now watch this homo make 4000 more posts pissed now.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 16, 2008, 08:08:22 PM
Why do you always think stats determine everything? LOL. Watch the games. Do you realize Garnett is Boston's MVP, and yet has come up shitty in pretty much every game? (9-22, 7-19, 6-21). THIS IS A 7 FOOTER, THEIR SUPPOSED MVP!


By your logic, you can hold coaches accountable for ANYTHING. Lamar decides not to drive it in, but rather shoot jumpers=Phil Jackson's fault. Gasol plays soft and acts passive on offense=Phil jackson's fault. Do you realize how dumb your basketball logic is? GARNETT HAS ALWAYS PLAYED THIS WAY. Doc, himself, is wondering why KG doesn't post up and take it strong more often. He probably has nightmares about it. LOL. Come on, now.

Why do you only pay attention to parts of my posts? If you paid attention to the whole thing you wouldn't have anything to be arguing about. You just like arguing, I get it.

I'm not arguing...LOL. All I'm saying is that you can never blame a coach the least bit for something that's part of a players game. If Doc doesn't call for something, KG needs to take the innitiative, he's the teams MVP. You criticize every Laker players game...Pau's numbers are on par with KG, yet I've heard all these Laker haters talking way more trash about Pau.. You do know that KG is supposed to be clearly the better player, right? And Pau is struggling. KG is 100% to blame for that, and you need you acknowledge it. Doc has to do with KG's softness just as much as Phil Jackson has to do with Pau's...Not an argument, I just call it like I see it...PeACe
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 16, 2008, 08:09:54 PM
Why do you always think stats determine everything? LOL. Watch the games. Do you realize Garnett is Boston's MVP, and yet has come up shitty in pretty much every game? (9-22, 7-19, 6-21). THIS IS A 7 FOOTER, THEIR SUPPOSED MVP!


By your logic, you can hold coaches accountable for ANYTHING. Lamar decides not to drive it in, but rather shoot jumpers=Phil Jackson's fault. Gasol plays soft and acts passive on offense=Phil jackson's fault. Do you realize how dumb your basketball logic is? GARNETT HAS ALWAYS PLAYED THIS WAY. Doc, himself, is wondering why KG doesn't post up and take it strong more often. He probably has nightmares about it. LOL. Come on, now.

Why do you only pay attention to parts of my posts? If you paid attention to the whole thing you wouldn't have anything to be arguing about. You just like arguing, I get it.

You should've stopped a while ago. Nik is on crack half the time. I think he has a problem reading lol? Or he's just doing this for the fun of it. I'd recommand you just stop till the next thread. Cause you made your point a couple posts...even if NIK doesn't want to believe. So just chill, you're wasting your time.


No need to talk shit, I'm simply stating my case about how KG is responsible for his own ineffectiveness. Not my fault if you can't keep up.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 16, 2008, 08:10:39 PM
a cuzz, the nigga is jewish, has 35,000 posts on the internet, admits he spent the last 10 years online on this site and has a laker tattoo. hahaha, the nicca is the definition of a faggot ass groupie stan, how much more groupie luv can u get than that? homeboy is mad cuz he's jewish and cuz he knows his shietty ass team had all the hype were favorites and he predicted them to win in 4 or 5 games and now they gettin they ass handed to them.

i bet the fag hugs his kobe pillow while he types all these posts all mad. this shiet online is like his nerdy ass lakers treehouse.

kg is playin better than pau 'charmin' gasol, who everyone in the world has called the softest thing since jews in europe. now watch this homo make 4000 more posts pissed now.


Anything else you have to say about me? Enquirer ass muthafucka.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 16, 2008, 10:03:52 PM
Why do you always think stats determine everything? LOL. Watch the games. Do you realize Garnett is Boston's MVP, and yet has come up shitty in pretty much every game? (9-22, 7-19, 6-21). THIS IS A 7 FOOTER, THEIR SUPPOSED MVP!


By your logic, you can hold coaches accountable for ANYTHING. Lamar decides not to drive it in, but rather shoot jumpers=Phil Jackson's fault. Gasol plays soft and acts passive on offense=Phil jackson's fault. Do you realize how dumb your basketball logic is? GARNETT HAS ALWAYS PLAYED THIS WAY. Doc, himself, is wondering why KG doesn't post up and take it strong more often. He probably has nightmares about it. LOL. Come on, now.

Why do you only pay attention to parts of my posts? If you paid attention to the whole thing you wouldn't have anything to be arguing about. You just like arguing, I get it.

I'm not arguing...LOL. All I'm saying is that you can never blame a coach the least bit for something that's part of a players game. If Doc doesn't call for something, KG needs to take the innitiative, he's the teams MVP. You criticize every Laker players game...Pau's numbers are on par with KG, yet I've heard all these Laker haters talking way more trash about Pau.. You do know that KG is supposed to be clearly the better player, right? And Pau is struggling. KG is 100% to blame for that, and you need you acknowledge it. Doc has to do with KG's softness just as much as Phil Jackson has to do with Pau's...Not an argument, I just call it like I see it...PeACe



1. The role of the player is not to override coaching decisions.
2. Paul Pierce is the Celts MVP clearly
3. I don't know who "all these Laker haters" are, but I have knocked both of them for the shit they do wrong. PAY ATTENTION. KG isn't soft, he's a choke artist. Pau is both.
4. What Laker's game have I criticized besides Pau? Saying Kobe was Shaq's sidekick is not criticism, its fact.
5. Nobody is blaming Doc Rivers for KG's imaginary softness. The coaching staff IS responsible for drawing up plays that play to its rosters' strengths and not its weaknesses. Doc Rivers has not done this.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 16, 2008, 11:24:57 PM
1.So you really think Doc Rivers coaching decision is for KG to take 20 footers instead of being aggressive and taking it to the hoop? LOLLLL. Wow.
2.Yea, Paul Pierce is the MVP because KG choked...LOL. KG was supposed to be the MVP going into this series.
3.According to you, Pau is soft and KG isn't, despite the fact that KG is known as a passive offensive player who never thinks shoot first and settles for jumpers. See what I mean?
4.Anyone who calls Kobe a sidekick is an idiot. You have proven who you are with these ridiculous comments these past few weeks. There's a reason Kobe and Shaq were called a 1-2 Punch and a Dynamic Duo.
5.I dunno if you know how basketball coaching works, but set plays aren't called on each possession. LOL. the players dictate what happens on the court most of the time and if KG gets the ball, Doc River is HOPING he takes it in and scores in the paint, as opposed to seeing him shoot 20 foot jumpers. Unfortunately, KG IS soft, and he DOES pass up big opportunities. Like Vic the Brick says, a gutless player.
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on June 17, 2008, 12:28:01 AM
LOL@blaming Doc for KG being soft and shooting jumpers instead of taking it in.

exactly, and hes so athletic and could be so domiant, but he plays soft on offense...and never demands the ball when the games on the line..
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: eS El Duque on June 17, 2008, 07:51:14 PM
if Celtics pull this off...KG can now take "choke artist" off the list...that nigga is dominating under the basket
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 17, 2008, 08:08:07 PM
LOL

I would up one of your old threads but I see you didn't exist when KG was in Minnesota and Rogaine Allen was in Seattle.

didn't know of this forum

you really take the time to dig through posts going back to last summer??  you need a social circle sir.

Don't need to, dumbass: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?action=profile;u=16073

Date Registered:     August 11, 2007

could care less, CELTICS WIN BABY
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 17, 2008, 08:10:16 PM
LOL@blaming Doc for KG being soft and shooting jumpers instead of taking it in.

Doc definitely isn't drawing anything up to get KG posted on the low block. Lets not act like Doc isn't a horrible coach all of a sudden. He was inches away from being fired until Ainge threw the Celtics future away for KG and Allen. Rivers was widely regarded as a shit coach until he had 3 stars to make him look good.


WTF are you talking about? KG has ALWAYS been soft and passive...LMAO. There's a reason he only made it out of the first round ONCE during his career with Minnesota. KG is not a clutch player. He's not an aggressive player. He's not a player you can depend upon...You call Gasol soft, and then you blame Doc Rivers for KG's softness...Don't ever try claiming you're not a Laker hater again...PeACe

 You're grasping at straws now. You just really wish I was a laker hater for whatever reason. I didn't even mention anything about the lakers and in fact I have noted in an earlier post that KG is a historic playoff choke artist (again, what does that have to do with the lakers?). All you're doing by trying to call me a laker hater in a post that doesn't have anything to do with the lakers is confirming what an insane laker homer you are.

 Now, moving on to something that has to do with the lakers that YOU brought up, yes Gasol is soft, and if KG is soft as you claim, then Gasol is exponentially softer as he gets abused by KG anytime the Celts have the common sense required to post KG up.

 Acknowledging this FACT does not make me a laker hater. It means that somebody for the Celtics can't see the obvious if they arent posting up KG way more than they are. I would point my finger at Doc since he's supposed to be the brains of the operation.


KG DOESN'T POST UP CONSISTENTLY BECAUSE HE'S SOFT! What don't you get about that?  That's like me saying "oh, Odom can take KG off the dribble any time he wants to!"...sure he can, but if he doesn't do it on a consistent basis, you blame it on HIM, not the coaching staff. LOL. Learn how to analyze basketball. Gasol, as shitty as he's been playing, has outperformed KG in these Finals. Gasol is a power forward playing the role of a center, thus making him look even softer than he is. KG CHOOSES to shoot 20 foot jumpers, that's a big part of his game. I don't wish you were a Laker hater, in fact, I wish NO ONE hated the Lakers... I'm simply stating the obvious. The fact of the matter is, you diss Gasol for being soft as fuck at any chance you get, but as soon as KG shows his softness it's "oh, the coaching staff isn't telling him to post up!". LMAO. Get the fuck outta here, man. You've been on Crack Wilson status these past few days...PeACe

an LA fan calling KG soft? LOL
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 18, 2008, 07:39:53 AM
LOL@blaming Doc for KG being soft and shooting jumpers instead of taking it in.

exactly, and hes so athletic and could be so domiant, but he plays soft on offense...and never demands the ball when the games on the line..

hes soft as cotton candy
Title: Re: How the fuck did Gasol get a reuptation as a playoff choker?
Post by: Corporate Hustler on June 18, 2008, 08:17:49 AM
yall should ask odom if garnett is soft  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: