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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 20, 2008, 08:11:10 PM
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This dude was holdin down conscious hip-hop from 98-2001 and then he started thinking he was a rock artist or something and stopped making good music. He seems to have lost his touch.
In the late 90's he was a part of two of the greatest conscious hip-hop albums ever.. his first solo album and the joint he did with Talib Kweli. He was also on fire with all his guest appearances, freestyles, etc... proof of this is tracks like "Oh No" he did with Phaorah Monch and Nate Dogg. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdGe4sKgA-s
As a person I still love and admire Mos Def.. but as a rapper, how come nobody talks about how hard this dude fell off?
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I totally agree. Blackstar and Black on both sides was brilliant, but dude did fall off.
Isnt Blackstar pt2 in the works? Maybe he can redeem himself.
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That 'The New Danger' album did suck. When I bought it home after buying it I was so dissapointed, so I didn't even check Tru3 Magic.
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how come nobody talks about how hard this dude fell off?
not sure, he defiantly did...but i guess some rappers just die off and nobody cares. :-\
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how come nobody talks about how hard this dude fell off?
not sure, he defiantly did...but i guess some rappers just die off and nobody cares. :-\
I wouldn't say no one cares that Mos Def fell off. I would love to hear another Black Star album and another solo with some hip hop beats and not rock ones.
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I liked New Danger, because it was different.
Tru3 Magic I dunno.
I only bought it cuz I was at best buy and saw it, later I found out it was a discontinueds version so now its a collectible, I've really only given it 3 listens.
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I totally agree. Blackstar and Black on both sides was brilliant, but dude did fall off.
Isnt Blackstar pt2 in the works? Maybe he can redeem himself.
i hope so.
isnt he also into acting? ???
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He barely rapped on black on both sides and so the bigger question to me is why he was so revered in the first place. Don't get me wrong I am not saying he was a bad rapper but he was nothing special he just happened to be on a label (ruckus) which stood out from the crowd at the time. Of course the fact that daddy murdoch's money helped promote the label brought him to more recognition also.
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mos was an amazing rapper. its a shame what happened.. stories similar to andre 300 and k-os. dre seems to be comin back to bodying tracks though
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guess he's more into acting now...
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He barely rapped on black on both sides and so the bigger question to me is why he was so revered in the first place. Don't get me wrong I am not saying he was a bad rapper but he was nothing special he just happened to be on a label (ruckus) which stood out from the crowd at the time. Of course the fact that daddy murdoch's money helped promote the label brought him to more recognition also.
I kind of agree there.. He only has a handful of standout tracks to me, so no better than your average rapper aka not gonna give a shit when u dont hear from him again.
He is a good actor tho.
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Agree with most people in here. He's a dope rapper, but like many rappers who have tried something different, he mostly failed. New Danger was 10% creativity and 90% disorientation. Mos has the talent to make great hiphop, but he doesn't have too much of a knack for rock and other genres
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That 'The New Danger' album did suck. When I bought it home after buying it I was so dissapointed, so I didn't even check Tru3 Magic.
same thing happened to me
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He barely rapped on black on both sides and so the bigger question to me is why he was so revered in the first place. Don't get me wrong I am not saying he was a bad rapper but he was nothing special he just happened to be on a label (ruckus) which stood out from the crowd at the time. Of course the fact that daddy murdoch's money helped promote the label brought him to more recognition also.
I don't get your post, I need further explanation to nearly everything you said.
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Agree with most people in here. He's a dope rapper, but like many rappers who have tried something different, he mostly failed. New Danger was 10% creativity and 90% disorientation. Mos has the talent to make great hiphop, but he doesn't have too much of a knack for rock and other genres
Word... I didn't like when Andre3000 started going alternative either.
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I read that Madlib and Oh No are going to be producing his next album so it will probably be no bullshit.
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I never considered Mos to have fallen off. I loved new danger and true magic as well.
what I really liked about TND and TM was that he put his soul into the music with his singin in between and I even enjoyed the rock-influenced songs with the band on new danger.
It's good when artists try something fresh
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someone hook up true magic, havent heard anything off of it
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He barely rapped on black on both sides and so the bigger question to me is why he was so revered in the first place. Don't get me wrong I am not saying he was a bad rapper but he was nothing special he just happened to be on a label (ruckus) which stood out from the crowd at the time. Of course the fact that daddy murdoch's money helped promote the label brought him to more recognition also.
I don't get your post, I need further explanation to nearly everything you said.
He say on the blackstar album he didn't rap alot and it was mostly Kweli that made that album. But Mos got alot of props for it. Plus he was on a label that had a good positive buzz with lots of money to promote him (and they did.)
In total, Mos is a bit overrated.
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This dude was holdin down conscious hip-hop from 98-2001 and then he started thinking he was a rock artist or something and stopped making good music. He seems to have lost his touch.
In the late 90's he was a part of two of the greatest conscious hip-hop albums ever.. his first solo album and the joint he did with Talib Kweli. He was also on fire with all his guest appearances, freestyles, etc... proof of this is tracks like "Oh No" he did with Phaorah Monch and Nate Dogg. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdGe4sKgA-s
As a person I still love and admire Mos Def.. but as a rapper, how come nobody talks about how hard this dude fell off?
He did fall all the way the fuck off, and personally I liked his rock shit and I aint even into that type of music. But I'd rather not speculate on why he fell off, I'd rather just remember that he made one of the best rap albums of the 90's and not expect him to do it again. He wouldn't be the first rapper to fall off after a classic (BIG, Nas until about 2002, etc)
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he was killing it with Blackstar and Black on Both Sides, fell off hard though I reckon. He can still shine on the occasional verse but cant remember the last time I heard a solo track by Mos that I banged more than a few times
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It's good when artists try something fresh
Basically, yeah. But not every crossover attempt ends up being "Walk This Way"
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Black on both sides didn't contain all that much actual rapping (save for half a dozen songs)
He gained attention because he was on rawkus records
Rawkus Records was run by Murdoch's son I believe
Having Murdoch money meant there was lots of cash to spend on promoting the name of the label
Using Oh No as a centre piece for Mos Def's talent isn't going to get far he was average on that track. Monch ripped his verse to pieces and in doing so made Def's verse very bland. Were it not for Mos Def being promoted as one of the "conscious" rappers no one would really care about him.
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Black on both sides didn't contain all that much actual rapping (save for half a dozen songs)
He gained attention because he was on rawkus records
Rawkus Records was run by Murdoch's son I believe
Having Murdoch money meant there was lots of cash to spend on promoting the name of the label
Using Oh No as a centre piece for Mos Def's talent isn't going to get far he was average on that track. Monch ripped his verse to pieces and in doing so made Def's verse very bland. Were it not for Mos Def being promoted as one of the "conscious" rappers no one would really care about him.
You're trippin. Black On Both Sides = Classic.