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Title: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Okka on April 26, 2008, 05:35:13 AM
Me and my homey was just thinkin, what was the best year in West Coast rap/hip-hop music? I really can't decide yet, but if you can, post a list of albums that was released that year.
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Post by: famozni on April 26, 2008, 05:39:58 AM
96
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Okka on April 26, 2008, 06:00:07 AM
96

Yeah, a good year. "Bow Down" and "Tha Doggfather" are the first that comes to my mind, what other great albums was released that year?

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Post by: NillerTheKid on April 26, 2008, 06:22:37 AM
96

Yeah, a good year. "Bow Down" and "Tha Doggfather" are the first that comes to my mind, what other great albums was released that year?


All Eyez On Me
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Mietek23 on April 26, 2008, 06:30:13 AM
2Pac - All Eyez On Me
Above The Law - Time Will Reveal
B-Legit - Hemp Museum
Big Syke - Be Yo Self
Dazzie Dee - Re-Birth
Dr. Dre Presents - The Aftermath
Dru Down - Can You Feel Me?
E-40 - Tha Hall Of Game
Foesum - Perfection
Ice-T - IV: Return Of The Real
Lil' 1 Dead - Steel On A Mission
Mac Mall - Untouchable
MAKAVELI
Mc Eiht - Death Threatz
Mc Ren - The Villian In Black
Rappin' 4-Tay - Off Parole
Ras Kass - Soul On Ice
Richie Rich - Half Thang
Richie Rich - Seasoned Veteran
Snoop Dogg Doggy - Tha Doggfather
Too $hort - Gettin' It ( Album Number Ten )
Westside Connection - Bow Down
Xzibit - At The Speed Of Life
Yella - One Mo Nigga To Go
Yo Yo - Total Control
Young Lay - Black 'N Dangerous
Young Murder Squad - How We Livin'

Just to name a few...
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: The Real Kilo2 on April 26, 2008, 06:33:15 AM
Yeah, 1996 was the year.
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Shade Sheist™ on April 26, 2008, 06:46:41 AM
I could stay stuck in 93-96 forever..

but let us NEVER forget 1991
Dj Quik - "Quik Is The Name"
(the first Gangsta Rap I Ever Heard In My Life)
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: UCC on April 26, 2008, 06:53:27 AM
hiphop in general peaked in like 92-94, those were dope years for west coast as well

you had snoops best shit, some of cubes best shit, dre's best shit, some dope 2pac stuff, then a load of dope underground stuff like pharcyde, souls of mischief

probably have to go with 93 because of Doggystyle


by 96 shit was getting mad disappointing - snoop had fallen off, 2pac had gone completely thugged out, dre has fallen off for a second there and hiphop in general was just sliding down from it's peak
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: 1234 on April 26, 2008, 06:56:12 AM
I could stay stuck in 93-96 forever..

but let us NEVER forget 1991
Dj Quik - "Quik Is The Name"
(the first Gangsta Rap I Ever Heard In My Life)
Yeah straight! Quiks album was a classic. The early 00s were good too (2000 - 2004).
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on April 26, 2008, 07:00:17 AM
not sure; it could be 2008, but 2009 is also a possibility for me.
it really depends on the releasedate of Detox.

edit: ok ok i overlooked the word was, but fuck it  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: greko on April 26, 2008, 07:13:48 AM
I think 1999 was also a good year...

Snoop No Limit Top Dogg
Dre 2001
Kurupt Streetz Iz a Mutha

Just to name a few...
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: HEC on April 26, 2008, 07:15:55 AM
I'm gonna go against the grain and say 1998

Daz - dope
Kurupt - dope
Cube - dope
Ren - dope
Ras Kass - crazy album
Bad Azz - west coast classic
Xzibit - westcoast classic
2 dope C-style compilations
Quik - one of the best hip hop albums ever

then you had the "non mainstream" albums

Brotha Lynch and Sicx
Dilated Peoples
Defari
Planet Asia

probably missing some too, I have to check my collection but I think it was the most underrated year in west coast hiphop
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on April 26, 2008, 07:17:47 AM
I'm gonna go against the grain and say 1998

Daz - dope
Kurupt - dope
Cube - dope
Ren - dope
Ras Kass - crazy album
Bad Azz - west coast classic
Xzibit - westcoast classic
2 dope C-style compilations
Quik - one of the best hip hop albums ever

then you had the "non mainstream" albums

Brotha Lynch and Sicx
Dilated Peoples
Defari
Planet Asia

probably missing some too, I have to check my collection but I think it was the most underrated year in west coast hiphop


how is it going against the grain?
you may not go with the obvious choice, but this topic is all about posting our own favorite year right :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: HEC on April 26, 2008, 07:31:42 AM
I'm gonna go against the grain and say 1998

Daz - dope
Kurupt - dope
Cube - dope
Ren - dope
Ras Kass - crazy album
Bad Azz - west coast classic
Xzibit - westcoast classic
2 dope C-style compilations
Quik - one of the best hip hop albums ever

then you had the "non mainstream" albums

Brotha Lynch and Sicx
Dilated Peoples
Defari
Planet Asia

probably missing some too, I have to check my collection but I think it was the most underrated year in west coast hiphop


how is it going against the grain?
you may not go with the obvious choice, but this topic is all about posting our own favorite year right :laugh:

yeah true, I just think most people think of '98 as a down year until the west made a comeback in '99 but in actuality except for Snoop's album most of the westcoast releases that year were pretty dope. Maybe these albums did not have the sales figures of the mid 90's ones but I enjoyed them very much
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: D~Nice on April 26, 2008, 08:04:24 AM
3 years for me are my favorite

94, 96, 98
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: West Coast Veteran on April 26, 2008, 10:12:53 AM
any year from 93-96

Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on April 26, 2008, 10:37:04 AM
hiphop in general peaked in like 92-94, those were dope years for west coast as well

you had snoops best shit, some of cubes best shit, dre's best shit, some dope 2pac stuff, then a load of dope underground stuff like pharcyde, souls of mischief

probably have to go with 93 because of Doggystyle


by 96 shit was getting mad disappointing - snoop had fallen off, 2pac had gone completely thugged out, dre has fallen off for a second there and hiphop in general was just sliding down from it's peak

i can see why you were very disappointed, but was it really THAT bad to you?  :P ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Tha G In Deee on April 26, 2008, 11:26:20 AM
I'm gonna say a tie between 1995 and 1996. You had "Dogg Food", "Safe + Sound", "Real Brothas", "In A Major Way", "Operation Stackola", "Me Against the World", "This Is the Shack", "Conversation", "Mack 10",  etc. in '95 and "Bow Down", "All Eyez On Me", "Tha Hall of Game", "Perfection", "Doggfather", etc. drop in '96. All of those are pretty much classic West Coast albums. 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: UCC on April 26, 2008, 03:28:25 PM
hiphop in general peaked in like 92-94, those were dope years for west coast as well

you had snoops best shit, some of cubes best shit, dre's best shit, some dope 2pac stuff, then a load of dope underground stuff like pharcyde, souls of mischief

probably have to go with 93 because of Doggystyle


by 96 shit was getting mad disappointing - snoop had fallen off, 2pac had gone completely thugged out, dre has fallen off for a second there and hiphop in general was just sliding down from it's peak

i can see why you were very disappointed, but was it really THAT bad to you?  :P ;)


Yeah, when Doggfather dropped I was SO disappointed. It's like Snoop had only got Doggystyle out, so I was expecting another Doggystyle (not realizing that Dre was really the mastermind behind that, so there was no way I was getting another Doggystyle). And Snoop had also dropped nothing but dope verses on everyone else's shit AND there was a rumor out at the time that he had got a full orchestra in for the beats, so I was thinking, holy fuck, so like Doggystyle but with mafioso strings all the way through - DOPENESS!!! And then I got the album and of course now it doesn't seem that bad... but at the time the rhyming seemed bored, the beats were so-so, there was way too much filler, etc - it was horrible listening to that for the first time, I thought they mustn't have given him enough time to finish the album or some shit, but my expectations were so high - basically Doggystyle 2 with an orchestra was what I was expecting

Same thing with the Dre album really, he had a few dope tracks on Aftermath presents, but not up to his usually standards and with looooads of filler. Luckily he fixed the problem by firing everyone and starting again lol
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: gfunkin2 on April 26, 2008, 03:37:37 PM
Gotta be the 9 5

BG Knocc Out and Dresta- Real Brothas
Cold World Hustlers- Iceland
Coolio- Gangstas Paradise
DJ Quik- Safe + Sound
Dove Shack- This is the Shack
Goldy- In the Land of Funk
Havoc & Prodeje- Kickin Game
Kam- Made in America
King Tee- IV Life
Luniz- Operation Stackola
Mad CJ Mac- True Game
Montell Jordan- Thjis is How We Do It
Tha Dogg Pound- Dogg Food
Ray Luv- Forever Hustlin
Twinz- Conversation
WC & the Maad Circle- Curb Servin

list goes on and on...


Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: AnybodyKilla on April 26, 2008, 04:13:26 PM
93-96, yall forgot about Spice 1's 187 He Wrote, one of my favourite albums of all time!!!
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on April 26, 2008, 05:43:04 PM
1999 for me cause thats when I started listening 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: AnybodyKilla on April 26, 2008, 06:59:39 PM
1999 for me cause thats when I started listening 8)

Thats when i started listening too, around that time, but 93-96 were the best years in west coast rap even though i wasnt listening to it then LOL!!!
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: hyet1ll1d1e on April 26, 2008, 07:06:47 PM
90's duh. i dont htink there is any other era dat west coast was more popular.
89-99 imo was da best years and fav years.
new west has talent so im lookin forward to the 2010 - 2020 era -_- lol
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Maully aka [Fitted Da Boss] on April 26, 2008, 08:38:46 PM
well the early 90's would be the obvious choice...but i also liked 2006...when the doctors advocate and the blue carpet treatment came out on the same day...and both albums were slammin...2 of the best albums out that year...next 2 king,release therapy,Hip Hop Is Dead, and The Inspiration...imo
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: WestCoasta on April 26, 2008, 08:40:18 PM
1999 was a good year

99-01 was great for the West
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: when it rains it pours on April 26, 2008, 11:56:52 PM
2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you got, soulja boy, hurrican chris, t- pain. just to name a few. SIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!     :laugh:



i gotta go with 96 too, i still bump most of that shit on the list
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Mixtape Fan on April 27, 2008, 12:00:40 AM
1996

2001 - 2ND

1992 - 3RD
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Drop A Gem On Em on April 27, 2008, 12:53:53 AM
93-96
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: 187_gangsta_crip on April 27, 2008, 02:16:52 AM
Yeah, 1996 was the year.
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on April 27, 2008, 07:15:47 AM
hiphop in general peaked in like 92-94, those were dope years for west coast as well

you had snoops best shit, some of cubes best shit, dre's best shit, some dope 2pac stuff, then a load of dope underground stuff like pharcyde, souls of mischief

probably have to go with 93 because of Doggystyle


by 96 shit was getting mad disappointing - snoop had fallen off, 2pac had gone completely thugged out, dre has fallen off for a second there and hiphop in general was just sliding down from it's peak

i can see why you were very disappointed, but was it really THAT bad to you?  :P ;)


Yeah, when Doggfather dropped I was SO disappointed. It's like Snoop had only got Doggystyle out, so I was expecting another Doggystyle (not realizing that Dre was really the mastermind behind that, so there was no way I was getting another Doggystyle). And Snoop had also dropped nothing but dope verses on everyone else's shit AND there was a rumor out at the time that he had got a full orchestra in for the beats, so I was thinking, holy fuck, so like Doggystyle but with mafioso strings all the way through - DOPENESS!!! And then I got the album and of course now it doesn't seem that bad... but at the time the rhyming seemed bored, the beats were so-so, there was way too much filler, etc - it was horrible listening to that for the first time, I thought they mustn't have given him enough time to finish the album or some shit, but my expectations were so high - basically Doggystyle 2 with an orchestra was what I was expecting

Same thing with the Dre album really, he had a few dope tracks on Aftermath presents, but not up to his usually standards and with looooads of filler. Luckily he fixed the problem by firing everyone and starting again lol

i understand  ;)

but how is the aftermath compilation not up to his usual standards?
i can understand that you were expecting something different back then ( from that point i probably would have had a similar reaction) but if you look back at it now ( not sure if that's what you meant with "same thing with the Dre album") you probably agree with me that you used to have the wrong impression of what the aftermath compilation was going to be like.

so i also disagree with the statement about the staff; some of the people that were part of the "first" aftermath producers team were already working with Dre back at death row.

the aftermath compilation is far from being a personal favorite to me, but that's another story.


Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Westcoastfanatic on April 27, 2008, 11:20:47 AM
1992!

-The Chronic
-The Predator
-Spice-1
-Way 2 Fonky
-Shorty the Pimp
-Guerillas in the Mist
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: UCC on April 27, 2008, 11:43:30 AM

i understand  ;)

but how is the aftermath compilation not up to his usual standards?
i can understand that you were expecting something different back then ( from that point i probably would have had a similar reaction) but if you look back at it now ( not sure if that's what you meant with "same thing with the Dre album") you probably agree with me that you used to have the wrong impression of what the aftermath compilation was going to be like.

so i also disagree with the statement about the staff; some of the people that were part of the "first" aftermath producers team were already working with Dre back at death row.

the aftermath compilation is far from being a personal favorite to me, but that's another story.

Well yeah, it just had Dre's name on it, so everyone was expecting that next hot shit, but it's not a Dre album - but still the beats weren't all that compared to like California Love or anything before that. Like everything Dre had been involved in up to that point was pure illness, so when that came out it was like uh oh, has he lost his touch, it's not bad but it's not what we're used to
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: 1234 on April 27, 2008, 12:01:47 PM
well the early 90's would be the obvious choice...but i also liked 2006...when the doctors advocate and the blue carpet treatment came out on the same day...and both albums were slammin...2 of the best albums out that year...next 2 king,release therapy,Hip Hop Is Dead, and The Inspiration...imo
06 sucked. It was all about the Hyphy shit and it fell to peaces.
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on April 27, 2008, 12:17:17 PM

i understand  ;)

but how is the aftermath compilation not up to his usual standards?
i can understand that you were expecting something different back then ( from that point i probably would have had a similar reaction) but if you look back at it now ( not sure if that's what you meant with "same thing with the Dre album") you probably agree with me that you used to have the wrong impression of what the aftermath compilation was going to be like.

so i also disagree with the statement about the staff; some of the people that were part of the "first" aftermath producers team were already working with Dre back at death row.

the aftermath compilation is far from being a personal favorite to me, but that's another story.

Well yeah, it just had Dre's name on it, so everyone was expecting that next hot shit, but it's not a Dre album - but still the beats weren't all that compared to like California Love or anything before that. Like everything Dre had been involved in up to that point was pure illness, so when that came out it was like uh oh, has he lost his touch, it's not bad but it's not what we're used to

i understand, but was just your first reaction right?

i just don't like all that talk of the magazines/critics of how he fell off and shit  :laugh: :P
that's just a bullshit conclusion  ;)

i mean, i wouldn't say that his best work was on that compilation and Dre definately made a lot of dope stuff back when he was with Death Row, but not everything he made during that period was great IMO.

but unlike those critics/magazines, i'm not coming with a bullshit conclusion  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Okka on April 27, 2008, 02:15:20 PM
1999 was really a great year for West Coast rap music. Dr. Dre released one of the best albums ever, Snoop  released another classic album, Kurupt released a classic (his best album), N.W.A. released "Chin Check", they could've came up with more great music. Shit like this won't happen ever again.
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on April 27, 2008, 05:07:58 PM
1999 was really a great year for West Coast rap music. Dr. Dre released one of the best albums ever, Snoop  released another classic album, Kurupt released a classic (his best album), N.W.A. released "Chin Check", they could've came up with more great music. Shit like this won't happen ever again.

2 of my favorite albums of all time Streetz and 2001 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on April 27, 2008, 05:13:02 PM
Rap had a couple of good years throughout the 90's, but overall 1996 was the best year in rap ever.
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on April 27, 2008, 05:19:53 PM
was chin check ever released
thats one of my favorite westcoast traccs period
bangin, bangin tracc
I fucks wit that cube right there
ren,dre, damn even snoop



1999 was really a great year for West Coast rap music. Dr. Dre released one of the best albums ever, Snoop  released another classic album, Kurupt released a classic (his best album), N.W.A. released "Chin Check", they could've came up with more great music. Shit like this won't happen ever again.
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on April 27, 2008, 05:29:01 PM
was chin check ever released
thats one of my favorite westcoast traccs period
bangin, bangin tracc
I fucks wit that cube right there
ren,dre, damn even snoop



1999 was really a great year for West Coast rap music. Dr. Dre released one of the best albums ever, Snoop  released another classic album, Kurupt released a classic (his best album), N.W.A. released "Chin Check", they could've came up with more great music. Shit like this won't happen ever again.

Chin Check was on the Next Friday Soundtrack
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on June 02, 2008, 08:41:34 AM

i understand  ;)

but how is the aftermath compilation not up to his usual standards?
i can understand that you were expecting something different back then ( from that point i probably would have had a similar reaction) but if you look back at it now ( not sure if that's what you meant with "same thing with the Dre album") you probably agree with me that you used to have the wrong impression of what the aftermath compilation was going to be like.

so i also disagree with the statement about the staff; some of the people that were part of the "first" aftermath producers team were already working with Dre back at death row.

the aftermath compilation is far from being a personal favorite to me, but that's another story.

Well yeah, it just had Dre's name on it, so everyone was expecting that next hot shit, but it's not a Dre album - but still the beats weren't all that compared to like California Love or anything before that. Like everything Dre had been involved in up to that point was pure illness, so when that came out it was like uh oh, has he lost his touch, it's not bad but it's not what we're used to


so you're saying that even your least favorite Dre productions from the death row era are better to you, than Dre's productions on the aftermath compilation?
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: S.J on June 02, 2008, 11:32:45 AM
95 or 96
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on June 03, 2008, 01:17:03 PM
UCC?


i understand  ;)

but how is the aftermath compilation not up to his usual standards?
i can understand that you were expecting something different back then ( from that point i probably would have had a similar reaction) but if you look back at it now ( not sure if that's what you meant with "same thing with the Dre album") you probably agree with me that you used to have the wrong impression of what the aftermath compilation was going to be like.

so i also disagree with the statement about the staff; some of the people that were part of the "first" aftermath producers team were already working with Dre back at death row.

the aftermath compilation is far from being a personal favorite to me, but that's another story.

Well yeah, it just had Dre's name on it, so everyone was expecting that next hot shit, but it's not a Dre album - but still the beats weren't all that compared to like California Love or anything before that. Like everything Dre had been involved in up to that point was pure illness, so when that came out it was like uh oh, has he lost his touch, it's not bad but it's not what we're used to


so you're saying that even your least favorite Dre productions from the death row era are better to you, than Dre's productions on the aftermath compilation?
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Birdie on June 03, 2008, 01:19:23 PM
3 years for me are my favorite

94, 96, 98
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: BIGWORM on June 03, 2008, 03:01:56 PM
1992

~Spice-1/Spice-1
~E-40~Federal
~Dr.Dre~The Chronic
~Ice Cube~The Predator
~Eazy-E~5150 home for the sick
~M.C. Ren~Kizz My Black Azz
~Above The Law~Black Mafia Life
~Comptons Most Wanted Music To Driveby
~D.J.QUIK~Way 2 Fonky
~Too $hort~Shorty The Pimp
~Paid The Cost~Penthouse Players Click
~Boss~Born Gangstress
~Lench Mob~Gurrilas In The Mist
~Paris~Sleepin With The Enemy
~The Click~Down & Dirty
~Ea-Ski~1 Stepp Ahead Of Yall
~RBL Posse~A Lesson to be learnt
~Totally Insane~Direct From The Backstreet
~Jt. The Bigga Figga~Dont stop, till we major
~X-Raided~Physco Active
~House Of Pain
~Pooh Man~Way To Funky
~OFTB~St8 Up Watts
~Yo Yo~Black Pearl
Man this list can go on and on....

BONUS SOUTH:~UGK~Hard Too Swallow
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: UCC on June 11, 2008, 06:42:48 AM
UCC?


i understand  ;)

but how is the aftermath compilation not up to his usual standards?
i can understand that you were expecting something different back then ( from that point i probably would have had a similar reaction) but if you look back at it now ( not sure if that's what you meant with "same thing with the Dre album") you probably agree with me that you used to have the wrong impression of what the aftermath compilation was going to be like.

so i also disagree with the statement about the staff; some of the people that were part of the "first" aftermath producers team were already working with Dre back at death row.

the aftermath compilation is far from being a personal favorite to me, but that's another story.

Well yeah, it just had Dre's name on it, so everyone was expecting that next hot shit, but it's not a Dre album - but still the beats weren't all that compared to like California Love or anything before that. Like everything Dre had been involved in up to that point was pure illness, so when that came out it was like uh oh, has he lost his touch, it's not bad but it's not what we're used to


so you're saying that even your least favorite Dre productions from the death row era are better to you, than Dre's productions on the aftermath compilation?

I'm here, I'm here! lol

Yeah, I'd say Dre's productions on Death Row are all better than his aftermath comp ones...  he didn't really do that many beats on Death Row, and the quality was so high on all of them... plus the beats were just so raw and gritty and organic and huge and had so much stuff in them... on the Aftermath comp I felt like he hadn't really found the new style yet, like for 2001, so he had dope beats on there, but nothing as good as the Death Row stuff IMO
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on June 11, 2008, 06:55:27 AM
UCC?


i understand  ;)

but how is the aftermath compilation not up to his usual standards?
i can understand that you were expecting something different back then ( from that point i probably would have had a similar reaction) but if you look back at it now ( not sure if that's what you meant with "same thing with the Dre album") you probably agree with me that you used to have the wrong impression of what the aftermath compilation was going to be like.

so i also disagree with the statement about the staff; some of the people that were part of the "first" aftermath producers team were already working with Dre back at death row.

the aftermath compilation is far from being a personal favorite to me, but that's another story.

Well yeah, it just had Dre's name on it, so everyone was expecting that next hot shit, but it's not a Dre album - but still the beats weren't all that compared to like California Love or anything before that. Like everything Dre had been involved in up to that point was pure illness, so when that came out it was like uh oh, has he lost his touch, it's not bad but it's not what we're used to


so you're saying that even your least favorite Dre productions from the death row era are better to you, than Dre's productions on the aftermath compilation?

I'm here, I'm here! lol

Yeah, I'd say Dre's productions on Death Row are all better than his aftermath comp ones...  he didn't really do that many beats on Death Row, and the quality was so high on all of them... plus the beats were just so raw and gritty and organic and huge and had so much stuff in them... on the Aftermath comp I felt like he hadn't really found the new style yet, like for 2001, so he had dope beats on there, but nothing as good as the Death Row stuff IMO

hey !  ;) yeah i was just wondering what's up  ;)

anyway, i see what you mean  ;) and i respect your taste offcourse  :)


ok let's make the comparison even more specific then  ;)

compare the "better" beats from the aftermath compilation, with the following :

- doggy dogg world
- Lodi Lodi
- U Better Recognize remix
- Pump Pump
- California Love remix
- Niggaz don't give a fuck

would you say these one are better than the 'better' beats from the aftermath compilation?

just wondering  :)









Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: D-Stress on June 11, 2008, 08:40:14 AM
1994-1996
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: UCC on June 12, 2008, 06:18:52 AM
ok let's make the comparison even more specific then  ;)

compare the "better" beats from the aftermath compilation, with the following :

- doggy dogg world
- Lodi Lodi
- U Better Recognize remix
- Pump Pump
- California Love remix
- Niggaz don't give a fuck

would you say these one are better than the 'better' beats from the aftermath compilation?

- Doggy Doggy World.... is awesome IMO, musically and the way it's mixed, loads going on in it, and the version on the single with extra percussion and shit makes it even that much better, so yeah, that's definitely better to me
- U Better Recognize remix.... is that the one from the video? I remember it not being as good as the original version but I'd say musically I like it as much as the beats on the Aftermath comp, and the mixing and the sounds he uses are doper IMO, so I do like it better than anything on the Aftermath comp
- Pump Pump... is a ridiculous beat to me, so no contest, it beats anything on the comp for me
- California Love remix.... again, incredible to me, so much going on musically, loads of different parts, great mix... I preferred the remix over the single version, so again I think it's waaaay better than anything on the comp


Though you may have a point with these two -

-Lodi Dodi.... never was one of my hugely favorite beats, Snoop's flip of the Slick Rick lyrics is the main thing on there, though it's a solid beat... I think it's perfect for the vocal though... if I had to listen to just the instrumental of this or something like Been There Done That, then yeah, maybe I'd choose Been There Done That, but I think the Lodi Dodi beat is perfect for the vocal... and I think it's mixed better too, and has better sounds in it... even though just musically it's not like WOW, like the rest of Doggystyle
- Niggaz don't give a fuck.... is this the one on Above The Rim or Poetic Justice? I thought Daz produced both of those....
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Black Excellence on June 12, 2008, 10:15:13 AM
there is too many to name. 93,94,95,96,97,99,2000. some of the best shit came out in those tears.
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on June 12, 2008, 11:28:23 AM

- Doggy Doggy World.... is awesome IMO, musically and the way it's mixed, loads going on in it, and the version on the single with extra percussion and shit makes it even that much better, so yeah, that's definitely better to me

i see; well i think it's decent at best  ;)

- U Better Recognize remix.... is that the one from the video? I remember it not being as good as the original version but I'd say musically I like it as much as the beats on the Aftermath comp, and the mixing and the sounds he uses are doper IMO, so I do like it better than anything on the Aftermath comp
what video?
anyway, not sure on what release the remix originially was on.
if you haven't got it yet, i can hook you up with it.

by the way, i think the production wasn't bad at all, just a little boring  ;)

- Pump Pump... is a ridiculous beat to me, so no contest, it beats anything on the comp for me
i see  ;)
well i think it sucks  :laugh:

- California Love remix.... again, incredible to me, so much going on musically, loads of different parts, great mix... I preferred the remix over the single version, so again I think it's waaaay better than anything on the comp
i understand.
well i like the vibe of the original a lot more  ;)
the remix is way too long, and it's a little too slow (i can't really describe it properly, but it feels a lot less energetic)


Though you may have a point with these two -

-Lodi Dodi.... never was one of my hugely favorite beats, Snoop's flip of the Slick Rick lyrics is the main thing on there, though it's a solid beat... I think it's perfect for the vocal though... if I had to listen to just the instrumental of this or something like Been There Done That, then yeah, maybe I'd choose Been There Done That, but I think the Lodi Dodi beat is perfect for the vocal... and I think it's mixed better too, and has better sounds in it... even though just musically it's not like WOW, like the rest of Doggystyle
i see what you mean; well it's just sounds so slow/lazy  :P

- Niggaz don't give a fuck.... is this the one on Above The Rim or Poetic Justice? I thought Daz produced both of those....
Poetic Justice.

well:


http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=51203

Dre produced it  ;)



PS: have you listened to the aftermath compilation recently?
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: StevenMarkAss on June 13, 2008, 08:10:29 AM
92 and 96.
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: cantoms on June 20, 2008, 12:34:11 PM
I wanted to go with either 92 or 96, but I'll always like the 88-89 period.  It's where the two albums that hooked me - Straight Outta Compton and Eazy Duz It - came from.  Ice-T was doing his best work then, too.  I like going back to those albums every now and then and even putting on some of the less "popular" (I don't know if that's the right word..) albums - Tone-Loc comes to mind right now.
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on July 03, 2008, 08:23:19 AM

Yeah, I'd say Dre's productions on Death Row are all better than his aftermath comp ones...  he didn't really do that many beats on Death Row, and the quality was so high on all of them... plus the beats were just so raw and gritty and organic and huge and had so much stuff in them... on the Aftermath comp I felt like he hadn't really found the new style yet, like for 2001, so he had dope beats on there, but nothing as good as the Death Row stuff IMO

ok what about:

- Eastcoast/Westcoast Killas: i think it's a heater and it was nice to hear different type of artists spit a verse ( dope chorus too) :)

-Blunt Time - another hard hitter   ;) the production is like a mix of Dre's old style & newer style(at the time off course  ;) ) plus it fits RBX well.

i'll skip been there done that, since you already brought that one up ( by the way, i didn't like that one at first; i thought it missed some power. it grew on me later though)


-Fame; i think this is my favourite production off of the compilation  8) i love the dark vibe  :)
notice all the different type of elements in there; the flute, the guitars, etc.  8)
the best part is towards the end, that instrumental is brilliant  8)
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: UCC on July 03, 2008, 08:58:53 AM
ok what about:

- Eastcoast/Westcoast Killas: i think it's a heater and it was nice to hear different type of artists spit a verse ( dope chorus too) :)

-Blunt Time - another hard hitter   ;) the production is like a mix of Dre's old style & newer style(at the time off course  ;) ) plus it fits RBX well.

i'll skip been there done that, since you already brought that one up ( by the way, i didn't like that one at first; i thought it missed some power. it grew on me later though)


-Fame; i think this is my favourite production off of the compilation  8) i love the dark vibe  :)
notice all the different type of elements in there; the flute, the guitars, etc.  8)
the best part is towards the end, that instrumental is brilliant  8)

- Eastcoast/Westcoast Killas: it's dope and the MCs and everything is ill, but the beat, like the drums and the wide mixing and the synth noises and stuff don't really do it for me... it's dope, but it also sounds a little stilted, like it's somehow not moving together properly

-Blunt Time is dope, Fame is dope, they're dope musically, it's mainly the way they're put together and mixed and the sounds he uses I don't like - they seem big and synthy and not as hard or sharp or elegant even as his Doggystyle beats... I think he got the big, synthy type of style right on 2001, but I see the comp as a crossover point where the synth sounds he was using weren't that dope, his drums were a bit drum machiney, everything was mixed big but didn't feel that tight...

I basically think that if you got today's Dre, or Doggystyle's Dre to go back and re-record the parts of those beats with better sounds and mix them harder and tighter as well then they'd be on the same level
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on July 03, 2008, 10:10:13 AM
ok what about:

- Eastcoast/Westcoast Killas: i think it's a heater and it was nice to hear different type of artists spit a verse ( dope chorus too) :)

-Blunt Time - another hard hitter   ;) the production is like a mix of Dre's old style & newer style(at the time off course  ;) ) plus it fits RBX well.

i'll skip been there done that, since you already brought that one up ( by the way, i didn't like that one at first; i thought it missed some power. it grew on me later though)


-Fame; i think this is my favourite production off of the compilation  8) i love the dark vibe  :)
notice all the different type of elements in there; the flute, the guitars, etc.  8)
the best part is towards the end, that instrumental is brilliant  8)

- Eastcoast/Westcoast Killas: it's dope and the MCs and everything is ill, but the beat, like the drums and the wide mixing and the synth noises and stuff don't really do it for me... it's dope, but it also sounds a little stilted, like it's somehow not moving together properly

-Blunt Time is dope, Fame is dope, they're dope musically, it's mainly the way they're put together and mixed and the sounds he uses I don't like - they seem big and synthy and not as hard or sharp or elegant even as his Doggystyle beats... I think he got the big, synthy type of style right on 2001, but I see the comp as a crossover point where the synth sounds he was using weren't that dope, his drums were a bit drum machiney, everything was mixed big but didn't feel that tight...

I basically think that if you got today's Dre, or Doggystyle's Dre to go back and re-record the parts of those beats with better sounds and mix them harder and tighter as well then they'd be on the same level


ok i think i got a better vision of your thoughts of the production of the aftermath compilation.

but i'm still a bit confused; don't you mean that you have more problems with the actual production than the mixing?

Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: UCC on July 03, 2008, 11:56:14 AM
ok what about:

- Eastcoast/Westcoast Killas: i think it's a heater and it was nice to hear different type of artists spit a verse ( dope chorus too) :)

-Blunt Time - another hard hitter   ;) the production is like a mix of Dre's old style & newer style(at the time off course  ;) ) plus it fits RBX well.

i'll skip been there done that, since you already brought that one up ( by the way, i didn't like that one at first; i thought it missed some power. it grew on me later though)


-Fame; i think this is my favourite production off of the compilation  8) i love the dark vibe  :)
notice all the different type of elements in there; the flute, the guitars, etc.  8)
the best part is towards the end, that instrumental is brilliant  8)

- Eastcoast/Westcoast Killas: it's dope and the MCs and everything is ill, but the beat, like the drums and the wide mixing and the synth noises and stuff don't really do it for me... it's dope, but it also sounds a little stilted, like it's somehow not moving together properly

-Blunt Time is dope, Fame is dope, they're dope musically, it's mainly the way they're put together and mixed and the sounds he uses I don't like - they seem big and synthy and not as hard or sharp or elegant even as his Doggystyle beats... I think he got the big, synthy type of style right on 2001, but I see the comp as a crossover point where the synth sounds he was using weren't that dope, his drums were a bit drum machiney, everything was mixed big but didn't feel that tight...

I basically think that if you got today's Dre, or Doggystyle's Dre to go back and re-record the parts of those beats with better sounds and mix them harder and tighter as well then they'd be on the same level


ok i think i got a better vision of your thoughts of the production of the aftermath compilation.

but i'm still a bit confused; don't you mean that you have more problems with the actual production than the mixing?



Both - the mixing doesn't make the beats sound quite as crisp and hard as the Doggystyle stuff... a case of just panning stuff differently and how he's EQed and compressed the tracks... as well as the synth noises, drum sounds he's used which don't sound as dope to me
Title: Re: Favourite Year In West Coast Rap Music?
Post by: Dre-Day on July 03, 2008, 12:01:44 PM
Both - the mixing doesn't make the beats sound quite as crisp and hard as the Doggystyle stuff... a case of just panning stuff differently and how he's EQed and compressed the tracks... as well as the synth noises, drum sounds he's used which don't sound as dope to me

i see  ;)
the comparison you made with 2001 makes a lot more sense to me now  ;)