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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Detox Iz Not Active on April 30, 2008, 03:24:09 PM
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He always brought the classic beats and he had all these wack niggas like AMG, PLaya Hamm, 2 II none.... holding him down. Because they were so wack Quik never blew up like he should have
now before you start crying, all those rappers like I mentioned ARE DOG SHIT when they are not rapping on Quik production, Quik always carried them. I was listening to this new "LA" track and the beat is some real smooth shit but Playa Hamm is just garbage on it as usual, but I can still bump it because of the Quik production being so good
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your starting to sound like Soopafly DPGC ;D
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I always thought Suga Free & Hi-C were pretty dope even without a Quik beat but of course sounded better with a Quik beat...hell even Chingy sounds good once hes rockin a Quik beat..lol
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He always brought the classic beats and he had all these wack niggas like AMG, PLaya Hamm, 2 II none.... holding him down. Because they were so wack Quik never blew up like he should have
now before you start crying, all those rappers like I mentioned ARE DOG SHIT when they are not rapping on Quik production, Quik always carried them. I was listening to this new "LA" track and the beat is some real smooth shit but Playa Hamm is just garbage on it as usual, but I can still bump it because of the Quik production being so good
That's the sign of a great producer. They elevate the quality of the mc.
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Come on now, 2 II none even sounds like DJ Quick? At least so do I remember.
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I always thought Suga Free & Hi-C were pretty dope even without a Quik beat but of course sounded better with a Quik beat...hell even Chingy sounds good once hes rockin a Quik beat..lol
yep... Suga Free and Hi-C no doubt
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He always brought the classic beats and he had all these wack niggas like AMG, PLaya Hamm, 2 II none.... holding him down. Because they were so wack Quik never blew up like he should have
now before you start crying, all those rappers like I mentioned ARE DOG SHIT when they are not rapping on Quik production, Quik always carried them. I was listening to this new "LA" track and the beat is some real smooth shit but Playa Hamm is just garbage on it as usual, but I can still bump it because of the Quik production being so good
those artist had some bangin songs,but i never heard no sicc mc'n from them either, and they was the difference from quik being on dre's level yell
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Imgaine if during the Quik/Dre/Death Row times the producers were switched
and it was Snoop/2pac/DPG/Rage/RBX and the rest of Death Row spitting on Quik tracks
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your starting to sound like Soopafly DPGC ;D
no! sometimes Long Beach Iz Active is full of shit... but most of the times he is right. the truth hurts.
most people are hating on him because they can't handle the truth
there is only 1 guy on quik's old camp that can handle his own...
hi-c is a great producer! really... 220 had some great tracks too.
but for the most part... quik always carried them
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dj quik was suppose to be the 'Dr. Dre' but dre already took that job
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2nd II None? Classic 220 is a classic!! AMG never really had too many Quik productions on his album's.. btw that reminds me anyone have -Leather and Wood, & Suka for luv - from Ballin Outta Control? props
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AMG, PLaya Hamm, 2 II none, Suga Free and Hi-C etc R THE SHIT and SOUND GRETA with DJ Quik.
Nothing better i LOVE THEOR music.
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good point. I like all those rappers but none of them crack my top 10 or top 20 for that matter.
Dj quik held them down because of his amazing beats.
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I was talking about how back in the early 90's, artists usually didn't collab with artists outside of their camps, or use production from producers who weren't part of their camps, unless they recently linked up and planned to do a lot together, like Cube was doin with Public Enemy's people. This hurt cats like Quik, because he didn't have the chance to produce for everybody in the game, or at least on the West, until 97 or so. In 91-92, Death Row was only using their producers, and no other rappers were really dealing with producers who weren't with their camps.
Nowadays, whenever a producer is successful, every rapper from his region will go to him for tracks. If things were the same back then, Quik would have definitely been able to produce for other cats.
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Sorry but I disagree. Those cats were quite good. They may not be on Suga Free's level (and he did blow up, there was a time that there wasn't a West Coast album without a Suga Free cameo on it), but they're all talented... And I love their albums as well. AMG made some nice albums without Quik producting the whole album. Actually I'll go and listen to Bitch Betta Have My Money 2000 right now...
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this is a good thread.
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damn, and nobody mentions Mausberg??
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Suga Free - I enjoy a lot of his songs not produced by Quik but of course the best of the best was done with them together.
he's an entertaining rapper but him cutting ties with Quik is a serious downgrade, it's too much to go unnoticed
Hi-C - he's got some good old school stuff and he can produce quite well to a degree.
but the last time I heard from him was the 2004 album and that was impressive
from the sounds of it Quik helped all over the cd
Hi-C not fuckin with Quik these days just leaves him boring and irrelevant
AMG - I like him and some of his work without Quik is good and as usual funny.
he's an original rapper who can flow, but you're right about him not being a draw without Quik
these days he's zero without him because on the Fixxers bootleg the ones AMG did were bad
2nd II None - they're alright and that's it, they simply rhyme and the beat carries them
they were lucky to get some of Quik's best productions in his prime
it was needed for sure because without Quik they're nothing
I would have no interest at all if they released a cd now with no name producers
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your starting to sound like Soopafly DPGC ;D
no! sometimes Long Beach Iz Active is full of shit... but most of the times he is right. the truth hurts.
most people are hating on him because they can't handle the truth
yes the truth hurts, but an opinion is not the same as the truth.
actually, Gotti's statement is based on the truth ;)
it doesn't take a lot of research to figure that out
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I'd say I agree, certainly were 2nd II None is concerned. Neither of them is very entertaining or impressive in his own right. This is contrast to Hi-C, Suga Free and AMG, in my opinion. AMG and Hi-C are entertaining and even if you don't like Suga Free's odd rhymes, at least his style and technique should make him impressive. Playa Hamm is neither impressive or entertaining, IMO though I wouldn't say he's a bad rapper per se.
As for Quik being Death Row's number one producer instead of Dre: That would have been great with Snoop, Dogg Pound, Nate Dogg and Jewell...but I have trouble imagining him being suitable to produce RBX or Rage. Also, I doubt Quik could have made all of them step up their game the way Dre could. There might be a reason why Dre is considered the true genius and Quik is not.
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I can agree about everyone, exept Playa Hamm.You need to check that Penthouse Players Clique album, he rips Quik's amazing beats (I still say the work he did on that album is underrated, almost every beat was INSANE) to pieces on some MC tip
I can say it tho, everything I've heard from playa hamm from after that album wasn't half as good as the fire he spit on Paid The Cost
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Quik only really produced all of 22o's first album and all of PPC's first..and suga free''s first and about half on both 220's and sugas free second correct? I think the one or two tracks he had on AMG and Hi-C's albums really werent much contributions (except Soak me Baby, that really stood out)... and all those albums held their own. I love quik production but AMG and Hi-C never relied on quik as much as half of you think...
2nd II none benefited the most from quik's production, they are a great group but you never hear them rapping on anything great unless quik produced it.
Quik and Camp were regional successes..think about when Dre and them were ruling the rap game and the airways.... that was the only time period were aside from Quik... the whole 304 posse didnt really release anything.. and what they did release got alot of play.. Didnt Mean to Turn You On and Safe and SOund
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I can agree about everyone, exept Playa Hamm.You need to check that Penthouse Players Clique album, he rips Quik's amazing beats (I still say the work he did on that album is underrated, almost every beat was INSANE) to pieces on some MC tip
I can say it tho, everything I've heard from playa hamm from after that album wasn't half as good as the fire he spit on Paid The Cost
yall need to break out Layin Hands again.. that album is sick... i think Hamm stepped up his ryhmes and battlecat produced some bangers!
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Quik only really produced all of 22o's first album and all of PPC's first..and suga free''s first and about half on both 220's and sugas free second correct? I think the one or two tracks he had on AMG and Hi-C's albums really werent much contributions (except Soak me Baby, that really stood out)... and all those albums held their own. I love quik production but AMG and Hi-C never relied on quik as much as half of you think...
2nd II none benefited the most from quik's production, they are a great group but you never hear them rapping on anything great unless quik produced it.
Quik and Camp were regional successes..think about when Dre and them were ruling the rap game and the airways.... that was the only time period were aside from Quik... the whole 304 posse didnt really release anything.. and what they did release got alot of play.. Didnt Mean to Turn You On and Safe and SOund
Thank you for educating people who speak on shit that they know nothing about. Hi-C didnt rely on Quik to produce anything. Crawf actually helped with production on John doe,(shade sheist's joint) and let me know. AMG's biggest records were records that he produced on his own.
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The funny thing is, in my opinion, the songs he did with the bigger name people aren't as good as some he did with these "wack" rappers. The Dre song "Put It On Me" sucked, the songs he did with Snoop were OK, nothing great...but he produced some real bangers with Mausburg and Suga Free. The song he did with Top Dogg ("We Don't Love Em") on Chronic 2000 was bangin too. Seems like he tries harder with the 'wack' rappers to help them step their game up, which in turn, makes the songs better. Life Goes On by Mausburg was one of the best songs Mausburg ever did, the beat was sick (I think Quik produced it). If someone like Snoop or Dre rapped on the beat, I don't think it would have come out as good.
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I don't know why everyone hates on 'put it on me', such a dope ass record :-\
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I just wasn't feeling it. Not the typical funky Quik production like he usually does. It sounded more like the cookie cutter Dre beats that Dre was making at the time.
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I never thought this wopuld happen but Im gonna co sign the sooperfly fan.
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Put it on me is prod by Dr. Dr.
track is dope all and all though..
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Never liked anyone in Quik's camp either except Mausberg.
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i agree with all those rappers being wack without quik except suga free. dude is a riot nd got the best pimpin flows to date and dude is about 60 years old.
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Nigga hold up lets close this thread once and for all !!!!! Quik was the shit in 1991 Quik is the name =Hip Hop Classic , 1992 he Fell off even though he managed to go gold from 1 single , the album Way 2 Fonky was his worst album to date by lots of people , and he disapeared and after he seen MC Eiht was becoming a Big Star he came with Dollaz n Sense 1994' Ghost Writer Quiks homeboy FACT. SAFE & SOUND Is released to all the hype around the Beef it went Gold had a few bright spots on the album . His best album since his DEBUT IN 1991 "RHY-TH- IM-LISM" still get play . I Cant say they same about those others . What Happen Quiksta ? Come bacc to that Hard Shit again !!!!!!! 8) 8)
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LOL @ calling AMG, Hi-C, 220 and Suga Free wack
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calling them wack may be a bit of a stretch but them dudes wouldnt be shit with out quik.
look at the results when ever somebody strays from quiks production....hot garbage.
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I don't know why everyone hates on 'put it on me', such a dope ass record :-\
Yeah dope beat, but Dre's lyrics and flow are fucking horrible.
This topic is a pure example of dick riding. They didn't hold Quik back at all. It's hard to get a major deal, and when Quik and AMG got one, they fucked it up. Quik is a great producer. But being great doesn't mean they have to blow up. Who cares if Quik sells 2 million copies. As long as you get his album, thats all you should care about. Sales, sales, sales. Means shit.
Whens the last time a GOOD album sold a lot? 5 years ago? Those Quik beats were special, because he has special people rapping on them. Suga Free, Hi-C, old AMG, classic albums. Who wants to hear Jay-Z on a fucking Quik beat? No one.
The fact is, anyone can make a hot beat, but what makes it special is the production, the mixing, the concept. Quik is simply one of the best at all those things. Take a Quik beat, remove the lyrics... and you don't have something special. Quik and his proteges complimented each other perfectly. And if Quik was going to blow up, he would have. No one was holding him back. That is a fact.
And IMO, the fact that Suga Free is the only one releasing projects with any real attention, shows that he didn't need Quik. What's Quik done since Trauma? Whats Hi-C done? What's AMG done? Not much. It would be OK to say all those others needed Quik, but Quik needs them too. Because Quik isn't doing much of anything right now. Suga Free is the only one whos moved on to other things, and some may say "better" things.
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...Quik was the shit in 1991 Quik is the name =Hip Hop Classic...What Happen Quiksta ? Come bacc to that Hard Shit again !!!!!!! 8) 8)
I felt like Quik fell off after Safe & Sound. He had a few bright spots here and there on each release but it just wasn't the same dude.
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I think with 2nd II None and AMG, its been proven that without Quik production, they really aren't all that special, however Playa Hamm, Suga Free, and Hi-C have proven that they can carry cd's without Quik beats or with only one or two Quik-produced tracks.
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Quik read my thread it seems.....
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damn, and nobody mentions Mausberg??
this what i was thinkin. mausberg was tha homie.
oh and suga free is a lyrical genius with rhythm like no other , his flow is always on point with or without a quik beat.