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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: herpes on May 17, 2008, 01:12:10 PM
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A lot of people before the season were saying they could see this team winning 80-82 games. But they are playing great right now and are beating some decent teams. Could they be the 08 D-Backs where you had a lot of good kids it was just a matter of when they matured ?
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It's probably going to be tougher for them to come out on top due to their division, but they do have great players. I'm glad Edwin Jackson and Dioner Navarro are doing well so far this season, they were treated unfairly here with the Dodgers.
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The have such a great future w/ all their young talent and they have played great Baseball so far but no they aren't making the playoffs this year.
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i dunno..they're playing great right now, but thats a TOUGH division that isnt lookin as good as it truly is right now..they might have a tough time staying this good, its a LONG season..
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i think they will give everyone a run for their money..but i dont think they will play like they are right now, for the ENTIRE season.
It's probably going to be tougher for them to come out on top due to their division, but they do have great players. I'm glad Edwin Jackson and Dioner Navarro are doing well so far this season, they were treated unfairly here with the Dodgers.
why do you say that they were treated unfairly? navaro got hurt, russell martin came up and took his job and has since become one of the better catchers in the game..aint nothing 'unfair' about that. as far as jackson goes, he was rushed, but he sucked when he was with us, so he got traded.
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They got traded for shitty players. It wouldn't have hurt at all to keep Edwin Jackson. Very foolish trades.
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if i were running things, i dont know if i would have traded him, i would probably have sent him down to work on his mechanics some more..but baez was decent for the short time he was with us. beaz got us betimet from atlanta, and betimet got us proctor from the yanks. and proctor helped solidify our pen..this year he has had two bad outings, but for the most part he has been lights out for us.
if we would have kept navaro, he wouldnt have benefited at all being a backup catcher for us..seeing the amount of time our backup catchers get with martin playing practically everyday, his development would have hit a road bump. at least with tampa he gets a chance to go out and play on a regular basis.
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if i were running things, i dont know if i would have traded him, i would probably have sent him down to work on his mechanics some more..but baez was decent for the short time he was with us. beaz got us betimet from atlanta, and betimet got us proctor from the yanks. and proctor helped solidify our pen..this year he has had two bad outings, but for the most part he has been lights out for us.
if we would have kept navaro, he wouldnt have benefited at all being a backup catcher for us..seeing the amount of time our backup catchers get with martin playing practically everyday, his development would have hit a road bump. at least with tampa he gets a chance to go out and play on a regular basis.
Baez was average at best, and you don't trade young promising players for half a season of an average player. Proctor has had more than 2 bad starts. That's been the problem with Colletti. He buys high and sells low. Any GM that reacts like that is a straight up noob.
Dioner Navarro eventually would have been traded, I'm sure if he would have just finished the season in AAA his value would have gone up.
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but look how long its taken them to develop into "something"...sure, in 10 years it COULD end up looking like a bad trade..but right now its too early to call it a 'horrible trade'.
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they raped the Mets with that Scott Kazmir trade. If he can stay healthy the rest of the year the Rays have a good chance at being a sleeper in the East because other than Boston I don't think any team can compete with them including the Yankees who look horrible
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they raped the Mets with that Scott Kazmir trade. If he can stay healthy the rest of the year the Rays have a good chance at being a sleeper in the East because other than Boston I don't think any team can compete with them including the Yankees who look horrible
They didn't rape the Mets... The Mets raped themselves. The only good thing about black friday was it forced the organization to do overhaul and clean house. As a Mets fan you experience a lot more bad moments then good ones. I been through a lot of bad and remained a fan. But the Kazmir trade was the closest I have ever come to moving on from the Mets and choosing a new team. Hands down the worst trade in Mets history except for the Tom Seaver trade in 77 I believe. But even worse then Nolan Ryan for Jim Fergosi. Worse then Dykstra for Samual. That trade still bothers me.
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but look how long its taken them to develop into "something"...sure, in 10 years it COULD end up looking like a bad trade..but right now its too early to call it a 'horrible trade'.
It's a horrible trade from the get go. Neither of those players actually have to be productive to prove that it was a bad trade. It's the principle of it. You don't trade away 6-12 years of service of prospects for mediocre players.
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you do if they suck or are blocked ;)
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yeah
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you do if they suck or are blocked ;)
1. We know that they didn't suck. 2. If they're blocked, a lot of teams will begin to ask about them, this is when you start searching around for offers not jump at the first thing you need in the off-season/midseason. That's bad management skills. Never sell low and buy high.
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I can't really tell if they are for real yet. I've seen them play a few times and they looked great but then again I really think the Jays made them look like that. If I had to bet I think they'll finish like 83-79.
I'm pretty damn sure Baltimore is over achieving and will fade to the cellar where they belong.
The AL East is a very tough division. I expect the Yankees to heat up as the weather does and if the Jays can get make a move for a LF/DH, get to full strength and start hitting they could be a real threat with their excellent pitching.
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I'll be happy for them if they can finally have a good season, they've sucked dick since they came in the league
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you do if they suck or are blocked ;)
1. We know that they didn't suck.
jackson with the dodgers: 75.5 IP / 5.34 ERA / 1.55 WHIP / 48 Ks / 1.2:1 K/BB
and i take it back, navaro was decent..but martin is much much better.
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If you take into consideration that Edwin Jackson, at the time, would be a 6th starter, or a mop up reliever...that's not sucking. Sold low...way too low.
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Half of the season is over and these fuckers are still sticking around the top of the division, 17 games over .500 and they are beating Boston right now. :(
This AL East is DEADLY.
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but look how long its taken them to develop into "something"...sure, in 10 years it COULD end up looking like a bad trade..but right now its too early to call it a 'horrible trade'.
LOL you are as funny as george carlin
if the Mets had Kazmir in their rotation in 2007 they dont choke at the end of the year
hell you cna argue if the Mets have Kazmir in 2006 maybe they don't lose to the Cardinals in the NLCS
what did the mess get in return? NOTHING!!! victor zambrano = worthless
mets got RAPED. the "what if's" will always occur, Kazmir would have easily put them over the Phillies
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They keep getting it done, and I hope they can continue and beat out the Yankees and Red Sox, I'm tired of both of those teams. The AL East is no joke though, every single one of those teams would probably win the NL West, at least how they are playing right now. The Rays have had some decent talent for a while, but they finally got the right lineup and good pitching to go with it, and they aren't backing down. They have speed on the base paths, play excellent defense, and have a nucleus that could be around for a while.