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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: GangstaBoogy on June 10, 2008, 07:34:07 PM
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Check it out
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AurmJu.ZiOhG9tDU0w.4xmq8vLYF?slug=ap-bettingprobe&prov=ap&type=lgns
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As if there was any way the Kings-Lakers series wasnt rigged, the whole world knew it lol, so obvious. Only biased Laker fans will say different and thats it because the rest of the world knew what was up, the Nba and the refs didnt disguise it well at all.
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Yeah thats why I don't want to hear Laker fans bitch and moan because everyone knows the WCF series between the Lakers and Kings WAS THE WORST OFFICIATING IN SPORTS HISTORY. Any non Laker fan will tell you, you would have to be a complete idiot to think otherwise, it was so obviously rigged, I cant remember if it were game 6 or 7 but there was one quarter in one of those games where the Lakers had 27 free throws, in one quarter lmao! Remember after that series even the great Magic Johnson on TNT said the Kings were the better team. The Kings got screwed out of a title that year and the Lakers got it handed to them, only a biased Laker fan would say otherwise. That is why I dont want to hear Laker fans cry about what is going on now when they sure enjoyed the rigged NBA helping them beat the Kings.
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I'm surprised Stern hasn't put money on Donaghy's snitching ass head already. And if he has, I'm surprised that with all the money in the world you can't get capable hitmen.
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^^Yeah he is a Rat but everyone knows the Kings-Lakers WCF series was rigged whether he says it or not.
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LMFAO @ lakers fans avoiding this thread. NIK you should sticky this powerful thread.
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^^Yeah seriously and when they do enter the thread it will be nothing but denial
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I'ma call 'em like I C 'em.
The key to the Lakers winning that series was that Robert Horry shot, and then some timely, almost lucky shots. This guy took something that people were like, I bet you that was a set up, and then ended up saying it. But at the end of the day, you watch playoff basketball enough, it's pretty even, and that series was as well. The main thing he was speaking on was Yao Ming getting called on screens. But of course people want to talk on that Kings/Lakers series. I watched every second of that series, and it was all about timely shots and the Kings missing shots. Hell, you see tonights game, the calls tonight was worst than that series, as Celtics were hooking the Lakers, and the refs didn't call shit. But at the end of the day, people who don't have teams in the playoffs enough to follow it, have no idea how the playoffs are. Yeah, I said it.
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shits been going on forever
http://www.youtube.com/v/Et2I1nQcmJE&hl=en
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LMFAO @ lakers fans avoiding this thread. NIK you should sticky this powerful thread.
Didn't he make a thread about the NBA possibly being rigged?
A lot of people here really obsess about NIK.... at least the short time that I have been here. Is the vendetta that bad?
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Laker fans are unreal. Every NBA fan that is not a Laker homer knows the series was rigged.
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if i'm not mistaken but that series was the same series in which shaq got into fould trouble because cetain players kept trippin' over his foot
if i'm not mistaken but that's the same series that all of the lakers front court was in foul trouble and lost games due to the obvious flops by Floppy Divac
if i'm not mistaken but that's the same series in which WEBBER could of and should have been in foul trouble/ fouled out
so say what you will but that series was not bias to the lakers what so ever.
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...and this is how the west was won.
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/10/sports/10horry.1.600.jpg)
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Scclt's in his own world sometimes. He agrees with me when I say NBA playoffs are ref'd different, then makes his NBA is rigged thread... LMAO... Sccit is on that other level.
As for you Spice. Get over it, that was a series that was ref'd like every other series, and you are mad 'cause Horry made that shot.
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^I never claimed the NBA was rigged, I simply posed the question...The Lakers-Kings series mighta had some bad officiating, but no way in hell is that the sole reason the Lakers won the series. Lakers were clearly an amazing team back then, and the Kings woulda won the series had Horry's shot in Game 4 rimmed out. Too bad for them, shit hit nothin' but the bottom of the net... Was that shot rigged, too? That was the deciding factor, not some BS reffing. If you play through the shitty reffing and hit shots, you can still win. That's why the Lakers had a good shot at winning in both Games 1 and 2 vs Boston, despite all the horrible calls...PeACe
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Phil Jackson had a good point about the previous game (the game before the alleged fixed one)
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I saw something about a 2005 series...
what were the details?
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I saw something about a 2005 series...
what were the details?
Houston was up 2-0 on Dallas... Refs were supposedly told to extend the series and call more fouls on Yao.
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Laker fans are unreal.
Man you guys should really stop posting those type of bullshit posts. For real. It's getting pretty sick reading every fucking tread full of those comments. I'm a Laker fan. And i'm real. If you have a problem with someone in this board, just call out names and stop talking about "Laker fans" like we are all the same. I don't refer to you as "Pacer fans", and if i want to call you a dickhead, i write SPICE IS A DICKHEAD, not "PACER FANS ARE DICKHEADS".
About the topic, i'm not in denial. It's as simple as that: Donaghy has to prove it. If he does, i'll accept it. But till then, fuck it. Horry made that shot and it wasn't fixed.
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Who cares it's '08 now, always Fowards never Backwards...Kings would have got smoked in the Final's anyway.
let it go...
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LMFAO @ lakers fans avoiding this thread. NIK you should sticky this powerful thread.
LOL they avoided it when I posted it earlier too. Even with the most damning evidence bolded and displayed in 18pt font. In case they missed it, here it is:
Donaghy claims he was told that two refs who were “company men” acting in the interest of the NBA conspired to extend a playoff series in 2002 to a seventh game.
The referees allegedly ignored flagrant fouls committed by the team that needed to win. They also reportedly called "made-up fouls" against the other team which led to the ejection of two of their players. The team favored by the refs won that night and the next game to win the series.
Does any Laker fan care to debate about which series was the only one out of the entire playoffs to go to 7 games in 2002? If not, would any Laker fan care to argue that the Laker have not received at the very least one title that they did not deserve? And at any rate, how does a chin foul an elbow?
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Who cares it's '08 now, always Fowards never Backwards...Kings would have got smoked in the Final's anyway.
let it go...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Hands down the funniest post ever. They would of slaughtered the weak ass Nets. This thread is living proof that Laker fans are in their own little world when it comes to discussing your favorite team, you guys have found a way to top yourselves again, denial is a bitch.
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Laker-Fans really have less class than I thought. To even consider the possibility that Game 6 of that series was less terribly officiated than any Game of the current series is just insane. I'm at a loss for words. Who cares if Horry made that shot, I could also say "YO; PEIRCE MAKED THAT SHOT YO; SO IT WAZNT RIGGED YO!!! POWE WAS THAT NIGGA!!!" ::)
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You act like the refs put the ball in the basket for the Lakers. You talk about freethrows, the Lakers had the WORST ft% in the league that year. What your you doing, setting up the Kings for even easier rebounds.
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Laker-Fans really have less class than I thought.
Again. ::)
To even consider the possibility that Game 6 of that series was less terribly officiated than any Game of the current series is just insane.
Both the games had an horrible officiating. But you guys are acting as hypocrite as the Laker-fans ( ::) ) you're dissing. I mean if there was a conspiracy against the Kings in that Lakers vs Kings game, there was been a conspiracy pro-Celtics in the first two games of those Finals TOO. So all of you saying "the refs weren't one-sided: give props to Celtics defence" are in denial. Since the two games were horribly officiated (maybe the worst of the recent years..), or you say the NBA make up games, or you say the best team won anyway. You can't have different visions of the same thing.
Personally, i'm maybe the only one who blamed how my team played more than the refs. So i'm in the position to say that Game-6 was bad officiated but Horry made the last shot and that's how the West was won.
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The Kings were up 3-2 in the series and looking to close out the Lakers at Arco and then in game 6 the Lakers who were trailing in the game were given 27 free throws in the 4th quarter hahaha 27 free throws in just the 4th qtr when facing elimination at Arco HAHA but yeah this game and series wasn't rigged.
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^I never claimed the NBA was rigged, I simply posed the question...The Lakers-Kings series mighta had some bad officiating, but no way in hell is that the sole reason the Lakers won the series. Lakers were clearly an amazing team back then, and the Kings woulda won the series had Horry's shot in Game 4 rimmed out. Too bad for them, shit hit nothin' but the bottom of the net... Was that shot rigged, too? That was the deciding factor, not some BS reffing. If you play through the shitty reffing and hit shots, you can still win. That's why the Lakers had a good shot at winning in both Games 1 and 2 vs Boston, despite all the horrible calls...PeACe
the Lakers were losing 3-2 to the better team ::)
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Laker-Fans really have less class than I thought. To even consider the possibility that Game 6 of that series was less terribly officiated than any Game of the current series is just insane. I'm at a loss for words. Who cares if Horry made that shot, I could also say "YO; PEIRCE MAKED THAT SHOT YO; SO IT WAZNT RIGGED YO!!! POWE WAS THAT NIGGA!!!" ::)
The free throw differential in Game 2 vs Boston was much worse than the free throw differential in Game 6 vs Sac in '02. And Sacramento never got fucked so badly that they only shot 10 free throws for an entire game. Was there bad officiating in the series? Sure. Was it the reason the Kings lost? No. Was it any worse than Game 2 vs Boston or Game 4 vs Phoenix last season? Fuck no. I doubt you guys even remember that game, so quit the bullshit...PeACe
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The Kings were up 3-2 in the series and looking to close out the Lakers at Arco and then in game 6 the Lakers who were trailing in the game were given 27 free throws in the 4th quarter hahaha 27 free throws in just the 4th qtr when facing elimination at Arco HAHA but yeah this game and series wasn't rigged.
Yea...and all 27 of those free throws were just made up, huh? Did you even watch the game? If you did, do you even remember what you saw? We had a guy named Shaq back then, who led the league in free throw attempts. Come on, now.
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The Kings were up 3-2 in the series and looking to close out the Lakers at Arco and then in game 6 the Lakers who were trailing in the game were given 27 free throws in the 4th quarter hahaha 27 free throws in just the 4th qtr when facing elimination at Arco HAHA but yeah this game and series wasn't rigged.
This after it was the refs that awarded game 5 to the Kings. Straight up, a lot of that playoff series had shitty ref'ing either way. If it wasn't for shitty refs, then the Lakers would have won game 5 and be up 3-2. Give it up man. Straight up, it's over, the Lakers should have won game 5, Kings should have won game 6, and the Lakers DID win game 7 in Sacramento, so you can say what you want. Also, both suspect games where at the teams that benefitted home court, which of course it's know what calls go your way at home.
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Why is this turning into a Lakers bash-fest? First of all, I'm the one who posted it! 2nd, if the NBA was rigging games than obviously the Lakers were on the receiving end sometimes. 3rd, as NBA fans you should be upset that games are being fixed regardless of which teams were benefiting.
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if I may add my two cents and play devils advocate.........
in Game 5, Shaq only had 1 free throw, what's up with that?
also as mentioned, the out of bounds with Webber, was not called properly
therefore leading to Bibby's shot
the Kings CHOKED in Game 7, missing 14 of 30 free throws and barely losing in overtime... AT HOME
and here's the free throw chart for the series.....
Game 1 - 22 to 17 (LAL) LA wins
Game 2 - 38 to 25 (SAC) Sac wins
Game 3 - 35 to 15 (SAC) Sac wins
Game 4 - 27 to 26 (LAL) LA wins
Game 5 - 33 to 23 (SAC) Sac wins
Game 6 - 40 to 25 (LAL) LA wins
Game 7 - 33 to 30 (LAL) LA wins
some games seem fair
the Lakers clearly got more in 4th quarter of Game 6
hell, check out Game 2 & 3... that's a nice margin of FT's.... Game 5 ain't shabby either
but let's be real here, Kings ain't winnin that series :'(
and lets look at the overall free throw attempts for both teams.... Kings (204 attempts) Lakers (186 attempts)
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Why is this turning into a Lakers bash-fest? First of all, I'm the one who posted it! 2nd, if the NBA was rigging games than obviously the Lakers were on the receiving end sometimes. 3rd, as NBA fans you should be upset that games are being fixed regardless of which teams were benefiting.
Real talk, especially your 3rd point..If it was rigged, you must be mad about getting screwed and losing, or disappointed that it helped you win..Hopefully this guy is full of shit, but there sounds like some truth to it. Also, no matter how much help refs give, guys still have to make shots, do some things to win. Bad calls can put them in much nicer position for it though.
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Why is this turning into a Lakers bash-fest? First of all, I'm the one who posted it! 2nd, if the NBA was rigging games than obviously the Lakers were on the receiving end sometimes. 3rd, as NBA fans you should be upset that games are being fixed regardless of which teams were benefiting.
not a shot at you GB
but certain Laker fans here are mad about game 2 in Boston, claiming the NBA has it out for L.A. and "has for years"
statements like that are just plain silly.
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if I may add my two cents and play devils advocate.........
in Game 5, Shaq only had 1 free throw, what's up with that?
also as mentioned, the out of bounds with Webber, was not called properly
therefore leading to Bibby's shot
the Kings CHOKED in Game 7, missing 14 of 30 free throws and barely losing in overtime... AT HOME
and here's the free throw chart for the series.....
Game 1 - 22 to 17 (LAL) LA wins
Game 2 - 38 to 25 (SAC) Sac wins
Game 3 - 35 to 15 (SAC) Sac wins
Game 4 - 27 to 26 (LAL) LA wins
Game 5 - 33 to 23 (SAC) Sac wins
Game 6 - 40 to 25 (LAL) LA wins
Game 7 - 33 to 30 (LAL) LA wins
some games seem fair
the Lakers clearly got more in 4th quarter of Game 6
hell, check out Game 2 & 3... that's a nice margin of FT's.... Game 5 ain't shabby either
but let's be real here, Kings ain't winnin that series :'(
and lets look at the overall free throw attempts for both teams.... Kings (204 attempts) Lakers (186 attempts)
"Horry...for three!"
Good shit, man. 8)
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Why is this turning into a Lakers bash-fest? First of all, I'm the one who posted it! 2nd, if the NBA was rigging games than obviously the Lakers were on the receiving end sometimes. 3rd, as NBA fans you should be upset that games are being fixed regardless of which teams were benefiting.
not a shot at you GB
but certain Laker fans here are mad about game 2 in Boston, claiming the NBA has it out for L.A. and "has for years"
statements like that are just plain silly.
How is that silly? If there's a chance that the NBA rigs some of these games, then HOW THE FUCK IS THAT SILLY? Crack, man, you KILL me. I mean, I knew crack kills, but I thought it only kills the person smokin' that shit.
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if i'm not mistaken but that series was the same series in which shaq got into fould trouble because cetain players kept trippin' over his foot
if i'm not mistaken but that's the same series that all of the lakers front court was in foul trouble and lost games due to the obvious flops by Floppy Divac
if i'm not mistaken but that's the same series in which WEBBER could of and should have been in foul trouble/ fouled out
so say what you will but that series was not bias to the lakers what so ever.
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Why is this turning into a Lakers bash-fest? First of all, I'm the one who posted it! 2nd, if the NBA was rigging games than obviously the Lakers were on the receiving end sometimes. 3rd, as NBA fans you should be upset that games are being fixed regardless of which teams were benefiting.
not a shot at you GB
but certain Laker fans here are mad about game 2 in Boston, claiming the NBA has it out for L.A. and "has for years"
statements like that are just plain silly.
How is that silly? If there's a chance that the NBA rigs some of these games, then HOW THE FUCK IS THAT SILLY? Crack, man, you KILL me. I mean, I knew crack kills, but I thought it only kills the person smokin' that shit.
celtics are winnin this series and after that your becoming my beach
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Scot Pollard, who played for the Kings in '02, just commented on this incident and claimed that Donaghy has no credibility...LOL. there goes your lame ass theories of the Lakers being "handed" the trophy, King fans/Laker haters. :-*
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Scot Pollard, who played for the Kings in '02, just commented on this incident and claimed that Donaghy has no credibility...LOL. there goes your lame ass theories of the Lakers being "handed" the trophy, King fans/Laker haters. :-*
well, listen... you wanna talk about free throws, just look at the games the Kings won
38 to 25
35 to 15
33 to 23
the only one the Kings can talk about is 40-25
the Kings have an argument but the Lakers have more, to say this whole series was fixed I doubt it
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the Kings CHOKED in Game 7,
There shouldn't have been a game 7 in the first place.
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LMFAO @ lakers fans avoiding this thread. NIK you should sticky this powerful thread.
LOL they avoided it when I posted it earlier too. Even with the most damning evidence bolded and displayed in 18pt font. In case they missed it, here it is:
Donaghy claims he was told that two refs who were “company men” acting in the interest of the NBA conspired to extend a playoff series in 2002 to a seventh game.
The referees allegedly ignored flagrant fouls committed by the team that needed to win. They also reportedly called "made-up fouls" against the other team which led to the ejection of two of their players. The team favored by the refs won that night and the next game to win the series.
Does any Laker fan care to debate about which series was the only one out of the entire playoffs to go to 7 games in 2002? If not, would any Laker fan care to argue that the Laker have not received at the very least one title that they did not deserve? And at any rate, how does a chin foul an elbow?
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there shouldn't have been a 4 5 or 6 then cuz the officials were loving the kings.
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why play this game?
the Lakers should have one Game 5
shoulda, woulda, coulda
Kings argue free throws yet shot more in the series
and the Lakers were robbed in Game 5
the aggressor gets the calls right? right man? like you say right
Lakers must have been quite aggressive in that Game 6
I give you these statistics for an argument yet you ignore them
there are things from both sides, the Kings arguments don't weight out as much as the Lakers
*haha I saw on another forum someone said they knew the NBA was fixed for the whole Laker 3-Peat
he was a Portland fan....
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^Turf Hitter is a Portland fan...that's why he's so mad. LOL. He only wishes Donaghy woulda' claimed that the Portland series was fixed, as well.
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^Turf Hitter is a Portland fan...that's why he's so mad. LOL. He only wishes Donaghy woulda' claimed that the Portland series was fixed, as well.
Mad? I'm laughing at you idiots who still try to deny this shit.
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Why is this turning into a Lakers bash-fest? First of all, I'm the one who posted it! 2nd, if the NBA was rigging games than obviously the Lakers were on the receiving end sometimes. 3rd, as NBA fans you should be upset that games are being fixed regardless of which teams were benefiting.
not a shot at you GB
but certain Laker fans here are mad about game 2 in Boston, claiming the NBA has it out for L.A. and "has for years"
statements like that are just plain silly.
How is that silly? If there's a chance that the NBA rigs some of these games, then HOW THE FUCK IS THAT SILLY? Crack, man, you KILL me. I mean, I knew crack kills, but I thought it only kills the person smokin' that shit.
because over the last 10 years, exactly ONE team has more titles than the Lakers. That is why its a silly thing to say.
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denial of what?
like NIK pointed out, even Pollard doesn't think this guy is credible
say Game 6 was fixed, there were other things going in the series
there are other arguments, why are you not understanding?
you're just being a baby because someone is actually willing to have a legitimate conversation about it
I'm actually trying to give supportive statistics to the discussion but people don't want to discuss
it's all about Game 6 was fixed and the whole Lakers are a sham, Shaq and Kobe and Phil should have 0 titles
that's what's frustrating about these forums... automatically I'm looked at as a homer cuz I'm a Laker fan
I'm a casual fan if anything
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Was there a disparity in calls? Yes. Did the Kings get the short end of the stick? According to statistics, no. Was there bad officiating which hurt both teams in the series? Clearly. Did the Kings have a chance to win the series despite the officiating in Game 6? No doubt. If Robert Horry misses that shot in Game 4...Kings win. If the Kings hit their free throws...Kings win. That was not the case. The refs are clearly not the reason the Kings lost the series, and Turf Hitta is simply a bitter Portland fan.
Bottom line:
Anyone who thinks the Lakers were HANDED a championship trophy is an idiot.
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Was there a disparity in calls? Yes. Did the Kings get the short end of the stick? According to statistics, no. Was there bad officiating which hurt both teams in the series? Clearly. Did the Kings have a chance to win the series despite the officiating in Game 6? No doubt. If Robert Horry misses that shot in Game 4...Kings win. If the Kings hit their free throws...Kings win. That was not the case. The refs are clearly not the reason the Kings lost the series, and Turf Hitta is simply a bitter Portland fan.
Bottom line:
Anyone who thinks the Lakers were HANDED a championship trophy is an idiot.
LOL do you also deny the holocaust happened?
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This makes me sick...Kings got robbed..
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This makes me sick...Kings got robbed..
gyeah! Mosav!!! No doubt man it was so obvious that something crooked and terrible was going on, what a shame.
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^^^YOU GUYS ARE JUST BITTER KINGS FANS!!! lmao
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I knew something was funny about that series when in game 3 in the closing seconds before halftime Samaki Walker hit a shot from halfcourt. Problem was later on in the game they showed the play again and realized he didnt beat the buzzer but for some reason nobody took any action regarding taking the three points away and basically gave him three free points. When you look at how game 3 ended its fucked up because that Robert Horry 3 shouldnt have even been able to win that game and Sac would have been up 3-1 and probably would have taken that series.
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wow so Samaki Walker actually scored 3 total points in his nba career? amazing. who could've known he would be that good? i bet teams feel stupid for passing on him now. He's an nba champion. lol
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Game 4 that happened in not game 3. My bad.
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I knew something was funny about that series when in game 3 in the closing seconds before halftime Samaki Walker hit a shot from halfcourt. Problem was later on in the game they showed the play again and realized he didnt beat the buzzer but for some reason nobody took any action regarding taking the three points away and basically gave him three free points. When you look at how game 3 ended its fucked up because that Robert Horry 3 shouldnt have even been able to win that game and Sac would have been up 3-1 and probably would have taken that series.
Back then, the benefit of replay wasn't allowed to be used...Nice try, though.
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Was there a disparity in calls? Yes. Did the Kings get the short end of the stick? According to statistics, no. Was there bad officiating which hurt both teams in the series? Clearly. Did the Kings have a chance to win the series despite the officiating in Game 6? No doubt. If Robert Horry misses that shot in Game 4...Kings win. If the Kings hit their free throws...Kings win. That was not the case. The refs are clearly not the reason the Kings lost the series, and Turf Hitta is simply a bitter Portland fan.
Bottom line:
Anyone who thinks the Lakers were HANDED a championship trophy is an idiot.
LOL do you also deny the holocaust happened?
The Kings shot more free throws in the series...what don't you get?
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Was there a disparity in calls? Yes. Did the Kings get the short end of the stick? According to statistics, no. Was there bad officiating which hurt both teams in the series? Clearly. Did the Kings have a chance to win the series despite the officiating in Game 6? No doubt. If Robert Horry misses that shot in Game 4...Kings win. If the Kings hit their free throws...Kings win. That was not the case. The refs are clearly not the reason the Kings lost the series, and Turf Hitta is simply a bitter Portland fan.
Bottom line:
Anyone who thinks the Lakers were HANDED a championship trophy is an idiot.
LOL do you also deny the holocaust happened?
The Kings shot more free throws in the series...what don't you get?
The series was ADMITTEDLY FIXED, what don't you get?
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Who admitted what? Donaghy wasn't reffing that series. Why should we even believe the scumbag? Like Scot Pollard said, that series is an easy target to point fingers at, because there was lots of controversy surrounding it to begin with. David Stern DENIED it, genius. That's the OPPOSITE OF ADMITTING. And even if it were fixed, it was fixed so that it would last 7 games, not so that the Lakers would win. That's obvious when you look at the stats...Lakers lost Game 5 on bad calls just as much as Kings lost Game 6 on bad calls. KINGS SHOT MORE FREE THROWS IN THE SERIES. Use your mind so that I don't have to do it for you...PeACe
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1. everyone talking shit about how many free throws the lakers got in the fourth quarter obviously hasn't watched basketball for the last 10 years. that strategy was called: hack a shaq
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/06/17/sports/17nba.600.jpg)
2. i don't know how anyone can say that the kings were robbed. the lakers were getting bullshit calls against them as well. like i previously pointed out. remember chris webber should have fould out a couple of times.
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I'm not saying it wasn't fixed but if my memory serves me correct: the Kings got away with a lot! It always seemed like the refs gave them a lot of help just to keep things interesting.