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Title: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: blue crew on June 17, 2008, 08:52:06 PM
22 points (7-22 field goals) 4 turnovers, 2 of his shots BLOCCED, ONE shitty assist, ASS WHOOPIN AT THE HANDS OF THE CHAMPION CELTICS.

KOBE mvp? dont look like it ahahaha.

hey groupies, how yall gonan defend his wac ass stats?
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 17, 2008, 08:57:13 PM
"im on top of the world"--kevin garnett
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Corporate Hustler on June 17, 2008, 09:52:35 PM
rondo was rippin the ball outta that niggas hands
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: blue crew on June 17, 2008, 09:57:37 PM
kobe as the undisputed leader has lead his team to the biggest choke in nba finals history (blowin a 24 point lead at home)

and the 2nd largest nba finals ass whoopin ever (39 point loss tonight)

wanna know the difference between kobe and MJ?

in the finals, kobe is on the 2nd biggest losing team EVER (tonight) and MJ was on the biggest WINNING team ever. (42 point win in the finals -- Chicago (96) vs. Utah (54), June 7, 1998.)

hahahaha. the numbers dont lie. kobe cant win shiet as the main guy, now he's gonna kic and scream in the laker locker room and pray that some lil 19 year old center can save his ass from being exposed. nicca rode shaq and now he wants to ride another big man. fag ass nicca can't carry nobody.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: the.SET on June 17, 2008, 10:12:19 PM
3 Allstars and future hall of famers vs 1 Allstar and future hall of famer. Gotta like the 3 Allstars chances everytime. You cant put it all on Kobe. And no knock to MJ, but he never faced a team in the finals with 3 Allstars in or just passed their prime (LA was in decline in '91)

True Kobe is no MJ, but still he lead a team that no one picked to even finish 1st in their division to the #1 seed in the toughest conference race in NBA history, and to the NBA finals where they just played a team that was flat out better then them. By far the toughest defense Kobe has faced.

Its not about what Kobe couldnt do as a leader, but it was about what Boston was able to do with their incredible d.

Hats off to the Celts for on hell of a season. They deserved to win 8)
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: blue crew on June 17, 2008, 10:18:34 PM
Kobe choked in the biggest finals of his career. everybody was piccin them niccas to win, you want me to give these chumps a cookie cuz no one expected them to win? thats bullshiet, all these groupie diccriders like the jewish fag and a gang of other lakers chumps on HERE kept sayin the lakers were the best, that they were gonna dominate the playoffs, call the celtics shitty, overrated etc, nicca KOBE GOT PUNK'D LIKE A BITCH IN THE PEN. take it like it is.

Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Elano on June 17, 2008, 10:30:37 PM
where is nik ?  :D
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 17, 2008, 11:10:39 PM
where is nik ?  :D

call suicide watch
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on June 17, 2008, 11:15:02 PM
where is nik ?  :D

call suicide watch
hahahahhahahaha
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: WestCoasta on June 18, 2008, 12:42:36 AM
why would you even try to compare him to Jordan if it's 6 rings to 3?

are you an idiot or something?

you're riding Kobe's dick worse than NIK does
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Antonio_ on June 18, 2008, 03:12:51 AM
With you guys it's always black or white. God or moron. Leader or fugitive. MVP or overrated. The truth is in the middle, guys. Kobe is no doubt the best player in the League, and he's no doubt the most skilled one. He deserved the MVP award and played great till the NBA Finals (just ask Denver, Utah and San Antonio). But he had problems against Boston defence. Expecially in the shooting selection. Boston shutted him down with a great team defence, and great solo performances in defence by Allen, Pierce and Posey. He was forced to make off-balanced shots, and never find a nice flow. The comparision with Jordan is wrong. First of all because Pippen never flopped like Gasol/Odom did. Second, because Jordan was menthally stronger than him. Third, because this comparision is getting boring for real. Let Kobe be Kobe. He's the best player in the League NOW. He doesn't have to go back to the past to play against Magic, Bird, Michael, Dr. J, etc.. to prove he's the MVP. Just like Shaq didn't have to play against Wilt, Kareem, Bill etc.. to get a ring. Stop living off the past. Let's talk about those NBA Finals. Celtics deserved the ring. Props to them. That's it.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 18, 2008, 03:22:25 AM
With you guys it's always black or white. God or moron. Leader or fugitive. MVP or overrated. The truth is in the middle, guys. Kobe is no doubt the best player in the League, and he's no doubt the most skilled one. He deserved the MVP award and played great till the NBA Finals (just ask Denver, Utah and San Antonio). But he had problems against Boston defence. Expecially in the shooting selection. Boston shutted him down with a great team defence, and great solo performances in defence by Allen, Pierce and Posey. He was forced to make off-balanced shots, and never find a nice flow. The comparision with Jordan is wrong. First of all because Pippen never flopped like Gasol/Odom did. Second, because Jordan was menthally stronger than him. Third, because this comparision is getting boring for real. Let Kobe be Kobe. He's the best player in the League NOW. He doesn't have to go back to the past to play against Magic, Bird, Michael, Dr. J, etc.. to prove he's the MVP. Just like Shaq didn't have to play against Wilt, Kareem, Bill etc.. to get a ring. Stop living off the past. Let's talk about those NBA Finals. Celtics deserved the ring. Props to them. That's it.

Whats this? A logical Laker fan? We gotta celebrate, nigga! I thought you were extinct!
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Antonio_ on June 18, 2008, 03:25:00 AM
I never left.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Corporate Hustler on June 18, 2008, 08:02:20 AM
Jordan was menthally stronger than him.

yup and dats part of what makes jordan >>> kobe
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Blow Out the Candle of the Devil on June 18, 2008, 11:51:22 AM
KOBE CANT DO IT WITHOUT SHAQ.
SHAQ CARRIED THE LAKERS BACK IN THE 3-PEAT DAYS.
KOBE CHOKED.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Antonio_ on June 18, 2008, 12:00:23 PM
KOBE CANT DO IT WITHOUT SHAQ.

No, it ain't about that. He reached the Finals without him, so he can def do it without Shaq. It's like i said: Jordan had something more and unique. He knew how to win, and he was menthally stronger, probably. That doesn't mean Kobe can't win witout Shaq, that Kobe ain't the MVP, that Kobe ain't the best player in the NBA, that Kobe can't win more titles than Jordan in his career.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Blow Out the Candle of the Devil on June 18, 2008, 04:12:27 PM
KOBE CANT DO IT WITHOUT SHAQ.

No, it ain't about that. He reached the Finals without him, so he can def do it without Shaq. It's like i said: Jordan had something more and unique. He knew how to win, and he was menthally stronger, probably. That doesn't mean Kobe can't win witout Shaq, that Kobe ain't the MVP, that Kobe ain't the best player in the NBA, that Kobe can't win more titles than Jordan in his career.

I AGREE. MJ >>>> KOBE. YOU'RE RIGHT!!
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 18, 2008, 05:03:51 PM
With you guys it's always black or white. God or moron. Leader or fugitive. MVP or overrated. The truth is in the middle, guys. Kobe is no doubt the best player in the League, and he's no doubt the most skilled one. He deserved the MVP award and played great till the NBA Finals (just ask Denver, Utah and San Antonio). But he had problems against Boston defence. Expecially in the shooting selection. Boston shutted him down with a great team defence, and great solo performances in defence by Allen, Pierce and Posey. He was forced to make off-balanced shots, and never find a nice flow. The comparision with Jordan is wrong. First of all because Pippen never flopped like Gasol/Odom did. Second, because Jordan was menthally stronger than him. Third, because this comparision is getting boring for real. Let Kobe be Kobe. He's the best player in the League NOW. He doesn't have to go back to the past to play against Magic, Bird, Michael, Dr. J, etc.. to prove he's the MVP. Just like Shaq didn't have to play against Wilt, Kareem, Bill etc.. to get a ring. Stop living off the past. Let's talk about those NBA Finals. Celtics deserved the ring. Props to them. That's it.

Whats this? A logical Laker fan? We gotta celebrate, nigga! I thought you were extinct!


What you talkin about? I agree with everything Antonio just said, besides Jordan being "mentally stronger"...

Antonio, Jordan wasn't mentally stronger than Kobe, bro...You, out of everyone, should know that one of Kobe's biggest strengths is his mental game. I know you remember the days when Kobe would fly straight from Colorado to the game in a private jet and pour in 40+ points immediately after landing...   Jordan simply ALWAYS had an amazing veteran supporting cast that played defense for 48 minutes and ran the offense to perfection. If he had to play with the 2nd youngest team in the league like Kobe, best believe we'd be singing a different tune.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: blue crew on June 18, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
keep cryin wit yo what ifs. if yo daddy woulda skeeted on your mommas face we all wouldnt have to watch you make up 100000 excuses for your leader not being mentally tough enough to overcome the boston celtics defense.

or not being mentally tough enough to win a ring without shaq, or even mentally tough enough to keep a 24 point lead at home. he's not even mentally tough enough to make 5 shots in the entire second half of an elimination game.

wahhhhhhhh

(http://withmalice.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/kobe1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 18, 2008, 05:32:28 PM
With you guys it's always black or white. God or moron. Leader or fugitive. MVP or overrated. The truth is in the middle, guys. Kobe is no doubt the best player in the League, and he's no doubt the most skilled one. He deserved the MVP award and played great till the NBA Finals (just ask Denver, Utah and San Antonio). But he had problems against Boston defence. Expecially in the shooting selection. Boston shutted him down with a great team defence, and great solo performances in defence by Allen, Pierce and Posey. He was forced to make off-balanced shots, and never find a nice flow. The comparision with Jordan is wrong. First of all because Pippen never flopped like Gasol/Odom did. Second, because Jordan was menthally stronger than him. Third, because this comparision is getting boring for real. Let Kobe be Kobe. He's the best player in the League NOW. He doesn't have to go back to the past to play against Magic, Bird, Michael, Dr. J, etc.. to prove he's the MVP. Just like Shaq didn't have to play against Wilt, Kareem, Bill etc.. to get a ring. Stop living off the past. Let's talk about those NBA Finals. Celtics deserved the ring. Props to them. That's it.

Whats this? A logical Laker fan? We gotta celebrate, nigga! I thought you were extinct!


What you talkin about? I agree with everything Antonio just said, besides Jordan being "mentally stronger"...

Antonio, Jordan wasn't mentally stronger than Kobe, bro...You, out of everyone, should know that one of Kobe's biggest strengths is his mental game. I know you remember the days when Kobe would fly straight from Colorado to the game in a private jet and pour in 40+ points immediately after landing...   Jordan simply ALWAYS had an amazing veteran supporting cast that played defense for 48 minutes and ran the offense to perfection. If he had to play with the 2nd youngest team in the league like Kobe, best believe we'd be singing a different tune.

jordan is better than kobe at every phase of the game except for shooting 3's and raping white girls
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 18, 2008, 05:43:31 PM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


End.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 18, 2008, 05:44:46 PM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


End.

LOL!!!

mj + laker squad = 7 game loss by a PP fade away buckett
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 18, 2008, 05:51:54 PM
^Yea, cuz the Lakers woulda somehow became defensive stoppers with MJ...Gasol woulda flourished at the center spot and Odom woulda mysteriously transformed into a top tier player at power forward...Jordan really does work miracles, huh?
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 18, 2008, 07:31:42 PM
^Yea, cuz the Lakers woulda somehow became defensive stoppers with MJ...Gasol woulda flourished at the center spot and Odom woulda mysteriously transformed into a top tier player at power forward...Jordan really does work miracles, huh?

MJ is like kobe but 10x better
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 18, 2008, 07:46:16 PM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


End.

Kobe in place of MJ on the 1993 Bulls = no playoffs. Isn't baseless and unfounded speculation fun?
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 18, 2008, 08:43:40 PM
^Yea, cuz the Lakers woulda somehow became defensive stoppers with MJ...Gasol woulda flourished at the center spot and Odom woulda mysteriously transformed into a top tier player at power forward...Jordan really does work miracles, huh?

MJ is like kobe but 10x better

yes...you also said "T-Mac>Kobe" and "the 2008 Celtics are the best team ever"...I'm pretty sure your opinion is respected around here. :)
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 18, 2008, 08:44:39 PM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


End.

Kobe in place of MJ on the 1993 Bulls = no playoffs. Isn't baseless and unfounded speculation fun?

How is that possible when the Bulls made the ECF without Jordan? LOL
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 18, 2008, 08:48:20 PM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


End.

Kobe in place of MJ on the 1993 Bulls = no playoffs. Isn't baseless and unfounded speculation fun?

How is that possible when the Bulls made the ECF without Jordan? LOL

so jordan wasnt there when the bulls beat PHX in the finals?
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 18, 2008, 09:06:14 PM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


End.

Kobe in place of MJ on the 1993 Bulls = no playoffs. Isn't baseless and unfounded speculation fun?

How is that possible when the Bulls made the ECF without Jordan? LOL

so jordan wasnt there when the bulls beat PHX in the finals?

yes, he was...but I'm talking about the next year, when he retired.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 18, 2008, 09:15:30 PM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


End.

Kobe in place of MJ on the 1993 Bulls = no playoffs. Isn't baseless and unfounded speculation fun?

How is that possible when the Bulls made the ECF without Jordan? LOL

so jordan wasnt there when the bulls beat PHX in the finals?

yes, he was...but I'm talking about the next year, when he retired.

I see. Well like I said, "Isn't baseless, unfounded speculation fun?"
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 18, 2008, 09:27:34 PM
yes it is

lets all play fantasy world



instead of reading the final score: 131-92
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Antonio_ on June 19, 2008, 04:03:14 AM
What you talkin about? I agree with everything Antonio just said, besides Jordan being "mentally stronger"...

Antonio, Jordan wasn't mentally stronger than Kobe, bro...You, out of everyone, should know that one of Kobe's biggest strengths is his mental game. I know you remember the days when Kobe would fly straight from Colorado to the game in a private jet and pour in 40+ points immediately after landing...   Jordan simply ALWAYS had an amazing veteran supporting cast that played defense for 48 minutes and ran the offense to perfection. If he had to play with the 2nd youngest team in the league like Kobe, best believe we'd be singing a different tune.

Hey, i'm not saying Kobe is wack!!!!!! Follow me. Jordan and Kobe had really different careers, and that's why i don't even like comparing them. Kobe started as the backup SG of L.A. fan fav Eddie Jones. He didn't start his career playing as the franchise man of his team, cause that team was clearly Shaq's team. He grew up and he became probably as important as Shaq for the Lakers, but what i'm saying is that his scenario was different from Jordan's one. Jordan had all eyes on him, it was his team, it was Jordan & co., the best player in the world AND the Bulls. If Bulls flopped, it was Jordan flopping. You know. With the Shaq Lakers it was different. Kobe shared the pressure with Shaq. It was easier for him not only cause Shaq was a wonderful player, but also because he was getting media attention and pressure off him. I know they weren't exactly best friends, but trust me, having Shaq on your team helps you having some pressure off you. He started being "the man" 4 years ago, when Lakers traded Shaq. So he's still in the process where he's learning how to be a leader and how to handle the pressure of playing in a team called "Kobe's team". The interesting thing is that Jordan won his first MVP in his 4th year. Kobe too. That's his 4th year as the solo leader of the Lakers. So he's taking his time. But he wasn't probably prepared as Jordan was to handle the pressure of the Play Offs all on him. I mean Lakers never won a round before this season in the 3 previous seasons without Shaq. And in one of those 3 Lakers didn't even reach the Playoff!! He went all of a sudden from facing Phoenix in the first round to playing in the Finals with a team built around him. He needs 2-3 more years to become as menthally strong as Michael. Michael knew the Play Offs like NOBODY. He knew how to handle the pressure like NOBODY. He was used to have a team built around him and being "the man". Kobe is just starting a new career, the #24 one. He's learning. But, like i said, nothing can stop him from becoming better than Jordan, or as menthally strong as Jordan. He's just in his 4th solo season, and he got himself an MVP throphy (althought he deserved at least another one in those 4 years) and the NBA Finals. This disaster will only make himself better. Like Magic after the 1894 Finals. He just got himself a new lesson to learn.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Antonio_ on June 19, 2008, 04:05:10 AM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


End.

C'mon. You ain't talking about T-Mac, homie!
I don't follow you on this one.
Michael was a wonderful player.
You're disrespecting him on here.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Turf Hitta on June 19, 2008, 05:02:08 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/coolguy2000/jordankobhead.jpg)
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Blow Out the Candle of the Devil on June 19, 2008, 08:30:10 AM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


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LMAO AT THIS DELUSIONAL ASS NIGGA
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 19, 2008, 10:04:28 AM
MJ in place of Kobe on this current Laker squad = No Finals


End.

C'mon. You ain't talking about T-Mac, homie!
I don't follow you on this one.
Michael was a wonderful player.
You're disrespecting him on here.




I just don't see MJ doing what he did without those great defensive teams and veteran supporting casts...MJ was amazing, no doubt, but I still think Kobe pushed this Laker team to overachieve like no other. Next year is our year...PeACe
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: Antonio_ on June 19, 2008, 10:41:19 AM
No doubt.
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: "THE" MoSav on June 19, 2008, 10:59:16 AM
Thats the biggest difference Jordan's guys PLAYED DEFENSE guys like Jud Beuchler were D'ing up. I think ppl forget how good there defense was back then...
Title: Re: Kobe's final stats in the biggest game of his career as a 'leader'
Post by: J$crILLa on June 19, 2008, 01:11:52 PM
"im on top of the world"--kevin garnett

tru that