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Title: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 12:23:38 PM
I was really anticipating this track, when the track starts and I hear the claps and I almost laughed out load.  This beat isn't even as good as the generic Dre rip offs that his fans make

this best/track almost seems like a fucking parody of Dre beats/tracks





and Bishop is so fucking generic it's pathetic
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: David Mack on July 03, 2008, 12:25:22 PM
your bitch ass is wack u fuckin hatin monkey shit. Get long beach outta ur name u European homo. All dis bitch ass fag does is hate. He should be banned.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 12:27:07 PM
your bitch ass is wack u fuckin hatin monkey shit. Get long beach outta ur name u European homo. All dis bitch ass fag does is hate. He should be banned.


LOL  @ hating




EVERY track from Game's new album straight shit on this garbage.   Game has an ear for the beats, and him not getting wack ass Dre beats was the best thing for him


and Ego Trippin also was a really good album
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Darksider on July 03, 2008, 12:28:08 PM
who knows its his best shit..or its just his way of saying he dont care about bishop
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 12:30:22 PM
who knows its his best shit..or its just his way of saying he dont care about bishop


for YEARS Dre dick riders been using this same excuse: "He's saving it for _______"


face it, nigga done fell off, Dre need to call up mel man and Daz and have them ghost produce his shit again like on Chronic and 2001
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 03, 2008, 12:42:07 PM
face it, nigga done fell off, Dre need to call up mel man and Daz and have them ghost produce his shit again like on Chronic and 2001

I'm not hating on Daz but what tracks has he produced in the last couple years that you think can fuck with this new Lamont single? I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on July 03, 2008, 12:45:36 PM
Dre hasnt done anything amazing for a while now i agree, but most of his average beats still shit on everyone elses.

I dont see how you can say Bishop is generic on this when i dont hear any other rappers with this sort of single ??? And personally i like this more than both of Games singles, esp. Dopeboys. And im a bigger game fan than a Bishop fan.

O, and for the record Snoop hasnt released a good album since Doggystyle, Ego Trippin was a Weed Plate.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Jimmy H. on July 03, 2008, 12:50:40 PM
Ego Trippin' was cool. Snoop tried something a little different. I think Game's Pain was dope. Not into that Travis Barker single much. I think this Lamont single is way better.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: underdog on July 03, 2008, 12:54:13 PM
all dres drums sound the same now, just diff melodys that almost sounds the same too
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: No Compute on July 03, 2008, 12:56:55 PM
Do you have to do this everytime a new Dre beat comes out?
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: MediumL on July 03, 2008, 01:20:29 PM
who knows its his best shit..or its just his way of saying he dont care about bishop


for YEARS Dre dick riders been using this same excuse: "He's saving it for _______"


face it, nigga done fell off, Dre need to call up mel man and Daz and have them ghost produce his shit again like on Chronic and 2001

hes obviously a dj quik dickrider mad cause his hero aint get enough shine (which he does deserve)
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: LongBeachsFinest on July 03, 2008, 01:45:40 PM
COOL & DRE >>> DR DRE
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Booz on July 03, 2008, 01:55:01 PM
COOL & DRE >>> DR DRE
Focus, DJ Khalil and every Aftermath cat > Cool & Dre
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 01:55:35 PM
all dres drums sound the same now, just diff melodys that almost sounds the same too



basically, same looped shit, but at least before the loop was catchy




problem is that Bishop doesn't have the balls to tell Dre that his beats are wack
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Jome on July 03, 2008, 02:59:41 PM
LOL, Quik is the Name's monthly "Dre done fell the fuck off" thread, never fails to deliver.  :D


Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
LOL, Quik is the Name's monthly "Dre done fell the fuck off" thread, never fails to deliver.  :D






and every beat Dre puts out just confirms it





LMAO @ niggas thinking Detox will be even 1/2 as good as 2001 let alone Chronic
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: D~Nice on July 03, 2008, 04:07:19 PM
your bitch ass is wack u fuckin hatin monkey shit. Get long beach outta ur name u European homo. All dis bitch ass fag does is hate. He should be banned.


LOL  @ hating




EVERY track from Game's new album straight shit on this garbage.   Game has an ear for the beats, and him not getting wack ass Dre beats was the best thing for him


and Ego Trippin also was a really good album

Yeah Ego Trippin was much better without Dre beats on it. :D
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: D~Nice on July 03, 2008, 04:10:44 PM
"And when Snoop's album sales weren't doing so good, who's the doctor they told him to go see?"
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 04:11:45 PM
"And when Snoop's album sales weren't doing so good, who's the doctor they told him to go see?"



I'm sure Snoop is  begging Dre to give him more left over beats like on BCT
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: D~Nice on July 03, 2008, 04:15:37 PM
"And when Snoop's album sales weren't doing so good, who's the doctor they told him to go see?"



I'm sure Snoop is  begging Dre to give him more left over beats like on BCT

Snoop picked the beats out. So if they are leftovers, apparently Snoop likes them. That is on him.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 04:19:27 PM
"And when Snoop's album sales weren't doing so good, who's the doctor they told him to go see?"



I'm sure Snoop is  begging Dre to give him more left over beats like on BCT

Snoop picked the beats out. So if they are leftovers, apparently Snoop likes them. That is on him.


you ever hear that interview where Snoop said he was done with Dre's left overs?
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: D~Nice on July 03, 2008, 04:20:37 PM
"And when Snoop's album sales weren't doing so good, who's the doctor they told him to go see?"



I'm sure Snoop is  begging Dre to give him more left over beats like on BCT

Snoop picked the beats out. So if they are leftovers, apparently Snoop likes them. That is on him.


you ever hear that interview where Snoop said he was done with Dre's left overs?

Interview with who? Dubcnn? Which one did he say that.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 04:21:36 PM
"And when Snoop's album sales weren't doing so good, who's the doctor they told him to go see?"



I'm sure Snoop is  begging Dre to give him more left over beats like on BCT

Snoop picked the beats out. So if they are leftovers, apparently Snoop likes them. That is on him.


you ever hear that interview where Snoop said he was done with Dre's left overs?

Interview with who? Dubcnn? Which one did he say that.


nah, it was with some chick in a radio interview prior to Ego Trippin droppin
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: D~Nice on July 03, 2008, 04:31:24 PM
is this a free ....?
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/cgo0207l.jpg)

I'm trying but it's leading that way.

"And when Snoop's album sales weren't doing so good, who's the doctor they told him to go see?"



I'm sure Snoop is  begging Dre to give him more left over beats like on BCT

Snoop picked the beats out. So if they are leftovers, apparently Snoop likes them. That is on him.


you ever hear that interview where Snoop said he was done with Dre's left overs?

Interview with who? Dubcnn? Which one did he say that.


nah, it was with some chick in a radio interview prior to Ego Trippin droppin

Well if they homies like they say they are and he thinks they are leftovers he should tell Dre to step his game up.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: D~Nice on July 03, 2008, 04:35:24 PM
where´s the....?
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/cgo0207l.jpg)

I'm trying but it's leading that way.

if you got any ideas to turn it around.... good luck  ;)

Nah I am done, do with it what you must. ;D
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Get It Off Ya Chest on July 03, 2008, 04:35:25 PM
all dres drums sound the same now, just diff melodys that almost sounds the same too



basically, same looped shit, but at least before the loop was catchy




problem is that Bishop doesn't have the balls to tell Dre that his beats are wack

bishop doesn't tell him his beats are wack basically cos they ain't.
the vast majority of people think Dre is the best around, and with good reason.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 04:41:50 PM
all dres drums sound the same now, just diff melodys that almost sounds the same too



basically, same looped shit, but at least before the loop was catchy




problem is that Bishop doesn't have the balls to tell Dre that his beats are wack

bishop doesn't tell him his beats are wack basically cos they ain't.
the vast majority of people think Dre is the best around, and with good reason.


he's the best around for what he did IN THE PAST, not for what he's done in the last 5-6 years
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: DreTendo on July 03, 2008, 04:45:58 PM
I still think Dre's the greatest producer of all time, but he needs to retire. He has fallen off hard! Everyones always making excuses for him, I do it myself I convinced my self that all the garbage beats he was putting out where leftovers and all the good stuff was for Detox/Refomation. After hearing Grow up there's no more excuses Dre is now a pretty terrible producer, and I am not anticipating Detox at all, and I am not anticipating Reformation because Bishop claims Dre produced half of it.

Feel on it is 100000 times a better single than Grow up
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: EFFeX on July 03, 2008, 04:52:33 PM
I think these days 1 out of 5 Dre beats are hot to the point where they measure up against his classic joints. I respect Dre for what he did in his past, but to be honest, I haven't anticipated a Dre album or song for years now. It's came to the point where the hype behind Detox reached the point where it will NEVER be the classic that people are expecting.

When it comes to Bishop Lamont, I have been giving this guy a chance on pretty much every track someone has leaked of his since he came out. I can't dig his music, it's a little boring to me to be honest. I don't mean to disrespect his fans, but that's how I feel.

BTW: This is one time I agree with Long Beach Iz Active... There are so many producers on the West and on the internet that make Dre-style beats twice as good as Dre is making them these days and that's truth.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 03, 2008, 04:54:56 PM

When it comes to Bishop Lamont, I have been giving this guy a chance on pretty much every track someone has leaked of his since he came out. I can't dig his music, it's a little boring to me to be honest. I don't mean to disrespect his fans, but that's how I feel.



Bishop is just too generic and brings nothing new to the table like Snoop and EM did, hell to this Hittman was 10x better then Bishop
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: No Compute on July 03, 2008, 04:57:13 PM
To say Dre is a terrible producer is crazy. I've hated on his recent beats a lot and think there's been a definite fall in quality, some beats were really bad and others were average. I think it's understandable for a fan to feel this way because Dre's always going to be held up against such high standards, the standards of things he done in past but in terms of where he's at just now he's still better than the majority of people out.

As for Bishop, give him the courtesy of hearing his album before slating him, I wouldn't expect an album as good as Doggystyle or Eminem's first few but I don't doubt he could put something out better than Em or Snoop have done since.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: EFFeX on July 03, 2008, 05:05:23 PM
To say Dre is a terrible producer is crazy. I've hated on his recent beats a lot and think there's been a definite fall in quality, some beats were really bad and others were average. I think it's understandable for a fan to feel this way because Dre's always going to be held up against such high standards, the standards of things he done in past but in terms of where he's at just now he's still better than the majority of people out.

As for Bishop, give him the courtesy of hearing his album before slating him, I wouldn't expect an album as good as Doggystyle or Eminem's first few but I don't doubt he could put something out better than Em or Snoop have done since.

Dre ISN'T a terrible producer, but he's not the same producer that I grew up listening to. I just think somewhere over the years the "magic" for lack of a better words was lost.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: $oKhalifas on July 03, 2008, 06:20:33 PM
Anyone who is anticipating Detox needs to slap theyself.   "No Stoppin' Carson" has a better beat than "grow up" imo.  Dont know why he never put that as a single.

Grow up is a nice track compared to alot of the bullshit on the radio now, but im getting tired of using that same excuse u feel me?  I still fux with bishops music but this new single really didnt do shit for me.  its the same shit with crooked I when he just dropped that weak ass single with akon on it... that "New West Anthem" joint was way better in my opinion.

if its for the radio, then put out some bangin' shit!   Save all that "reminisce on my life" type shit for the album.   
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Michael on July 03, 2008, 08:37:22 PM
i'd love to hear Crooked I over a new Dre beat....lol man you'd probably explode!
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: D~Nice on July 03, 2008, 09:06:25 PM
i'd love to hear Crooked I over a new Dre beat....lol man you'd probably explode!

Yeah the next thread will be Dre's beats have been wack since he worked with Crooked.  ;D
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: David Mack on July 03, 2008, 09:49:29 PM
I think Ya homie Kimbo was trippin a bit I got nuthin but love 4 Europe but dis nigga who started dis topic is still a hatin ass bitch. He hates everything seriously. If he was datin Jessica Alba in his wildest dreamz dis bitch azz chump would be hatin on her!!!! and dats the truth 8) Kimbo out! 8)
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: dubsmith_nz on July 03, 2008, 10:23:41 PM
I thought Feel On It was average as fuck, Grow Up shits all over it. How can you say Dre fell off? All his beats on Bustas album were sick, and his track "Going Nowhere" on Bucks album was dope. His recent G Unit beats, and Bring Em In on Curtis was dope. Hustlers and Here We Go were average, not my steez, but I know cats who loved that shit. Dres still got it
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: R1ZE on July 03, 2008, 10:38:57 PM

When it comes to Bishop Lamont, I have been giving this guy a chance on pretty much every track someone has leaked of his since he came out. I can't dig his music, it's a little boring to me to be honest. I don't mean to disrespect his fans, but that's how I feel.



Bishop is just too generic and brings nothing new to the table like Snoop and EM did, hell to this Hittman was 10x better then Bishop

Well I agree about what you say about Bishop; hes the most generic and shitty Dre protege so far.

I like the Grow Up beat, though. Maybe it could use a ghetto flute whine during the verses or something, but its a nice chill song. And I admit, my eyes did roll over when I heard those "epic" claps again.  ::)
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: NewYork Pope on July 03, 2008, 10:53:41 PM
Thread starter, to make your point clear and believable you should give a clear reason why u think he fell off. As u see almost everyone sees you as a hater, which u came across as one.
Anyway, how does one fall off? When someone decide they don't like them anymore? Or when whatever that person does proves irrelevant and fails at attempts to suceed no matter what they put it out. I think the later is more like it.

If Dre's new album is not well received and sounds bad to the public, not individua;s, it will shows that he fell off. Yet he has not fell into any of those situation yet. In fact, his album is literally the most anticipated rap album of all time. That's far from an indication of falling off.
But i guess the term falling off is clearly relative here. If someone dno't like a cat anymore, feels lke he still doing the same then that might translate to fall off for some.

P.S Dre's music has always been advance than any in hip hop so i think he straight where he's at. If anything others are just recently catching up.

P.S. 2. If another producer did that beat, or say Dj Quick it would've been deemed as fire. (it is by the way). Oh yeah,if Neptune keep their trademark, why shouldn't Dre who's over them cats in this game (in terms of longevity and status)

Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: The Predator on July 03, 2008, 11:00:35 PM
Dre's new sponsored sidekick should be amazing the world and blasting on to the scene with listeners rapping along to lines or choruses in awe.

Bishop needs a ghostwriter let alone writing shit for other niggas all over Detox.



Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Celph_Titled06 on July 03, 2008, 11:04:47 PM
The man makes hundreds of beats a year a you douches get mad at the one that bishop PICKED for HIS song.
Not dre's song. Bishops song.
You wanna hate on dre wait for detox and do it then. this is just good music. something that has been lacking all year so far.
Song is hot btw. schooling all the fake ass tony yayo old age mutherfuckas. sick
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: lost_assassin on July 03, 2008, 11:38:25 PM
honestly this beat reminds me of the stuff the doc did for jay z on king dom come.. dont it?

the song is good ya'll BUMP IT BUMP IT!!! 

better stop hatin if u still waitin for dre to have that sound he brought on '99 . artists grow, let artists be artists
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Celph_Titled06 on July 03, 2008, 11:42:46 PM
^^^^ WORD
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: The Real Kilo2 on July 03, 2008, 11:49:27 PM
Honestly, when you take The Chronic, The Aftermath compilation, and 2001 you can see that Dr. Dre tried different sounds for each. Some people were disappointed with, some others weren't. I myself am a big fan of the Aftermath compilation which people tend to frown upon. Maybe Dre is just trying a new style to get some radio play because kids don't listen to "good" music these days or he just wants to appeal to the masses. I could say Dr. Dre fell the fuck off, but I haven't met the fellow or been in the studio with him so I wouldn't know. I believe if Snoop, The D.O.C., and company are hyping up Detox so much it must be good. I don't believe they would lie to the public. I believe he may have gave Bishop a semi-throw away beat, and Bishop didn't mind since Dr. Dre is focusing so much on Detox. If this isn't the case though and the doctor is really going hard on this beat, Dre call in Mel Man, Colin Wolfe, Barney Rubble, Erotic D, Daz, and anyone you've worked with in the past and get them to help your ass. The beat is sub-par compared to the stuff we've all heard in the past. If this were a Detox track, I would bet the beat is as bad as the flow. The track is a disappointment and I honestly don't see what he sees in Bishop other than a good ghost writer. I pray to God this is just a throw away beat, and Dre really does have some Chronic-ish material saved for Detox. If not, I believe he might have just fell off the Merry Go Round.
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Dre-Day on July 04, 2008, 12:29:10 AM
where´s the....?
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/cgo0207l.jpg)

I'm trying but it's leading that way.

if you got any ideas to turn it around.... good luck  ;)

Nah I am done, do with it what you must. ;D

is the topic starter a human or a bot?
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: heat on July 04, 2008, 03:23:21 AM
Nah Dre is still on top of thangs he dropped some weaker beat during times but that goes for his whole career so it's nothing new. Every master gotta be able to fail sometimes!
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Lucifuge on July 04, 2008, 03:35:30 AM
what's a problem with beat? it's not timberlend tehno? it's that a problem? it's not lil jon crapy crunk beat? it's that a problem? this 2 guys give us a cali sound beat,straight west coast chill beat and i like it.how can u say u suport west? this shit iz better than 99% shit in the mainstrem music.dont gerit ???
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: D-Stress on July 04, 2008, 03:47:43 AM
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LMAO @ niggas thinking Detox will be even 1/2 as good as 2001 let alone Chronic

me personally, i hope it will be good.
the bishop lamont beat "grow" is dope but its not that dre that we know from his death row days.
the new sound is wack not all but 99%.
WEST NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE ROOTS.YOU CANT BRING THE WEST BACK WITH THESE NEW BEATS!!
but i like "grow up".
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Booz on July 04, 2008, 04:03:13 AM
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LMAO @ niggas thinking Detox will be even 1/2 as good as 2001 let alone Chronic

WEST NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE ROOTS.YOU CANT BRING THE WEST BACK WITH THESE NEW BEATS!!
but i like "grow up".
You can't go back, you really think people nowadays would give a fuck if Death Row style would come back? Maybe some older folks but c'mon, you gotta invent new styles...
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 05, 2008, 10:07:49 AM
Honestly, when you take The Chronic, The Aftermath compilation, and 2001 you can see that Dr. Dre tried different sounds for each.


I agree with you on this, he really going for that wack sound now, and he's got that on lock
Title: Re: Let's face it, Dre done fell the fuck off something serious
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 09, 2008, 07:56:29 AM
I just finished a beat for Dr. Dre



I will post it in a thread soon