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Title: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: Elano on July 10, 2008, 07:53:48 AM: (http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2008/0807/a_awayne_0714.jpg)
Lil Wayne: The Best Rapper Alive

Lil Wayne has a smoke-scarred rasp that makes him sound like Redd Foxx covering Bob Dylan. It's hardly the voice you'd expect from a 25-year-old rap star, but then, it's been a busy 25 years.

Born Dwayne Carter Jr. and raised in Hollygrove, a New Orleans neighborhood famous for producing soul singers, Wayne signed his first deal at age 11 after rhyming on a record executive's answering machine. At 12, he distinguished himself by starring as the Tin Man in his gifted middle school's production of The Wiz--and by accidentally shooting himself in the chest with a .44-cal. while imitating Travis Bickle in his bedroom. After teenage years that were lost to the comically awful gangsta group Hot Boys (like 'N Sync with shivs), Wayne went solo and undertook a transformation almost unprecedented in hip-hop. Over four years, he morphed from a mediocre rapper with a thuggish point of view into a savant who merges sex, drugs and politics with a sneaky intellect, a freakish knowledge of pop culture and a voice out of the Delta. Whether Wayne is, as he claims, the "best rapper alive" is no longer even debated in hip-hop or commercial circles. Since June 10, when his latest album, Tha Carter III, sold 1,005,545 copies in its first week, he's been the undisputed champ.

That number would be huge in boom times, but at a moment when most records languish on the racks like Depression apples, it's titanic. It also represents the victory of a business model every bit as counterintuitive as Radiohead's. Most musicians still carefully dole out an album's worth of songs every few years to keep from saturating the market. Vibe magazine counted 77 new Lil Wayne tracks in 2007. Besides coughing out guest verses for seemingly anyone who asked, he sometimes recorded three songs in a night and gave them away on the Internet minutes later on a series of superb mix tapes. In June, just before Tha Carter III went on sale, Wayne announced on YouTube that he'd be releasing the tracks for free on a tape called The Leak.

If the charts are to be believed, his goodwill has been repaid many times over. Of course, it helps that Tha Carter III is one of the best albums of the year. It's a pop play--and smelling it, everyone from Jay-Z to Robin Thicke jumped on board with contributions--but it's still weird enough to sound like underground Lil Wayne. His wordplay can be thrilling ("My picture should be in the dictionary next to the definition of definition"), and no other rapper finds as much joy in rhyming; "in the way," "everyday," "what we say," "cliché," "Andre 3K," "sensei" is a typical string from Dr. Carter, his prescription for what ails rap. But the impact owes more to his delivery than to his wit. Wayne isn't afraid to sound bizarre. On Phone Home, he rhymes like E.T., and throughout, he stammers, intentionally misses beats and defies most of the rules of contemporary rap. On DontGetIt, over a sample of Nina Simone's Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood, he tells a life story that veers into an indictment of drug laws and finishes some 1,200 words and 10 minutes later by dismissing Al Sharpton with a theatricality even the good Reverend would have to appreciate.

Wayne claims his rhymes are stream of consciousness, but even if they aren't, they sound as though they're hitting the air for the first time, unfolding with an electricity that's--forbid the sacrilege--Dylanesque. Redd Foxx would probably dig 'em too.
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: westsiderider323 on July 10, 2008, 07:55:08 AM: whut tha fuck??
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: smegma on July 10, 2008, 07:55:23 AM: You need to stop with making threads about Lil Wayne.
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: Elano on July 10, 2008, 10:19:09 AM: Quote from: smegma on July 10, 2008, 07:55:23 AM
You need to stop with making threads about Lil Wayne.

FUNNY,coming from a tq groupie :D
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: OchoCinco on July 10, 2008, 10:22:00 AM: wats the world comming too ???
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: Laconic on July 10, 2008, 12:57:23 PM: Wow...this is such a travesty. I'd love to watch Dylan's reaction to this ludicrously inaccurate statement. The writer/editor should be fired. What's next...DMX is the new Curtis Mayfield ::)
Title: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan
Post by: Black Gloves on July 10, 2008, 11:18:06 PM: Clearly they wanna sell magazines since the seen Wayne sell alot of records.

Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan

July 10th, 2008 | Author: Jake Paine

In perhaps the most famous American magazine of all, Time, this week's issue includes a full-page article on Lil Wayne, titled "The Best Rapper Alive." Writer Josh Tyrangiel chronicles Lil Wayne's life and times, his expectation-shattering sales of The Carter III [click to read], and a lengthy synopsis of his unique approach to rhyming and releasing catalogue.
Perhaps exposing Wayne to unfamiliar audiences, the writer twice compares the emcee to Folk/Rock icon Bob Dylan. First, the article compares the rapper's raspy tone to sounding "like Redd Foxx covering Bob Dylan." Secondly, and to close, the piece ventures to compare the creative output and approach to the 67 year-old who famously sang "Hurricane," as well as appeared in Wyclef Jean's 1997 video for "Gone Till November." The second-to-last sentence states, "Wayne claims his rhymes are stream of consciousness, but even if they aren't, they sound as though they're hitting the air for the first time, unfolding with an electricity that's - forbid the sacrilege - Dylanesque."
The article, citing Wayne as "the undisputed champ," quotes three of the rapper's songs, including "Dr. Carter," "Don'tGetIt" and "Phone Home" as examples.
The issue, with Mark Twain on the cover, is on newsstands now

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.7284/title.time-magazine-compares-lil-wayne-to-bob-dylan
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan
Post by: J Bananas on July 10, 2008, 11:22:33 PM: THERE ARE BETTER "stream of consciousness" RAPPERS,
BUT WEEZY>>>BOB DYLAN (I CANT STAND THAT FOLKY MOTHER FUCKER)
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: smegma on July 10, 2008, 11:24:29 PM: Quote from: Elano on July 10, 2008, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: smegma on July 10, 2008, 07:55:23 AM
You need to stop with making threads about Lil Wayne.

FUNNY,coming from a tq groupie :D

The amounts of TQ threads I make is ridiculous eh?
Title: TIME MAGAZINE COMPARES LIL WAYNE TO BOB DYLAN
Post by: J Bananas on July 10, 2008, 11:27:00 PM: SAY SWEAR TO GOD
Title: Re: TIME MAGAZINE COMPARES LIL WAYNE TO BOB DYLAN
Post by: smegma on July 10, 2008, 11:28:11 PM: swear to god
Title: Re: TIME MAGAZINE COMPARES LIL WAYNE TO BOB DYLAN
Post by: J Bananas on July 10, 2008, 11:35:51 PM: Quote from: smegma on July 10, 2008, 11:28:11 PM
swear to god

MAKE A MORE, YOU KNOW I'M SAYIN, IN DEPF THREAD
Title: Re: TIME MAGAZINE COMPARES LIL WAYNE TO BOB DYLAN
Post by: smegma on July 10, 2008, 11:37:35 PM: SWEAR TO GOD
SWEAR TO GOD
SWEAR TO GOD
Title: Re: TIME MAGAZINE COMPARES LIL WAYNE TO BOB DYLAN
Post by: jeromechickenbone on July 10, 2008, 11:58:31 PM: Wayne sells a million records and all the sudden he's the next Tupac / Bob Dylan.
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: Elano on July 11, 2008, 12:47:18 AM: Quote from: Laconic on July 10, 2008, 12:57:23 PM
Wow...this is such a travesty. I'd love to watch Dylan's reaction to this ludicrously inaccurate statement. The writer/editor should be fired. What's next...DMX is the new Curtis Mayfield ::)

;D
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 11, 2008, 01:06:45 AM: Singing wise:

Wayne > Bob Dylan
Title: Re: TIME MAGAZINE COMPARES LIL WAYNE TO BOB DYLAN
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 11, 2008, 01:08:15 AM: Wayne is Jesus, c'mon people, WAKE THE FUCK UP!
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan
Post by: white Boy on July 11, 2008, 03:29:57 AM: lmfao, theres no need to further explain anything.
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan
Post by: Elano on July 11, 2008, 03:47:37 AM: THERE ARE 3 TOPICS ABOUT IT
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: Elano on July 11, 2008, 03:48:16 AM: Quote from: His Majesty King Sikotic II on July 11, 2008, 01:06:45 AM
Singing wise:

Wayne > Bob Dylan

SURE :D
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan
Post by: K.Dub on July 11, 2008, 03:57:33 AM: How about doin a lil search before posting?!
...Wait, u coulda just looked at the front page... ::)
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: K.Dub on July 11, 2008, 03:58:42 AM: Quote from: smegma on July 10, 2008, 07:55:23 AM
You need to stop with making threads about Lil Wayne.

Well, he is dubcc's gossip queen
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: Elano on July 11, 2008, 04:00:18 AM: Quote from: K.Dub on July 11, 2008, 03:58:42 AM
Quote from: smegma on July 10, 2008, 07:55:23 AM
You need to stop with making threads about Lil Wayne.

Well, he is dubcc's gossip queen
and you are the biggest whore of this forum
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: K.Dub on July 11, 2008, 04:04:48 AM: Quote from: Elano on July 11, 2008, 04:00:18 AM
Quote from: K.Dub on July 11, 2008, 03:58:42 AM
Quote from: smegma on July 10, 2008, 07:55:23 AM
You need to stop with making threads about Lil Wayne.

Well, he is dubcc's gossip queen
and you are the biggest whore of this forum
Can u back that up with proof?
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: Elano on July 11, 2008, 04:09:44 AM: Quote from: K.Dub on July 11, 2008, 04:04:48 AM
Quote from: Elano on July 11, 2008, 04:00:18 AM
Quote from: K.Dub on July 11, 2008, 03:58:42 AM
Quote from: smegma on July 10, 2008, 07:55:23 AM
You need to stop with making threads about Lil Wayne.

Well, he is dubcc's gossip queen
and you are the biggest whore of this forum
Can u back that up with proof?
sure,but you are OFF TOPIC.
now :sshh:
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: white Boy on July 13, 2008, 11:00:01 AM: Id wayne could ever write something 1/1000000 as good as this, he should be happy

Darkness at the break of noon
Shadows even the silver spoon
The handmade blade, the child's balloon
Eclipses both the sun and moon
To understand you know too soon
There is no sense in trying.

Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn
From the fool's gold mouthpiece
The hollow horn plays wasted words
Proves to warn
That he not busy being born
Is busy dying.

Temptation's page flies out the door
You follow, find yourself at war
Watch waterfalls of pity roar
You feel to moan but unlike before
You discover
That you'd just be
One more person crying.

So don't fear if you hear
A foreign sound to your ear
It's alright, Ma, I'm only sighing.

As some warn victory, some downfall
Private reasons great or small
Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
To make all that should be killed to crawl
While others say don't hate nothing at all
Except hatred.

Disillusioned words like bullets bark
As human gods aim for their mark
Made everything from toy guns that spark
To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
It's easy to see without looking too far
That not much
Is really sacred.

While preachers preach of evil fates
Teachers teach that knowledge waits
Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
Goodness hides behind its gates
But even the president of the United States
Sometimes must have
To stand naked.

An' though the rules of the road have been lodged
It's only people's games that you got to dodge
And it's alright, Ma, I can make it.

Advertising signs that con you
Into thinking you're the one
That can do what's never been done
That can win what's never been won
Meantime life outside goes on
All around you.

You lose yourself, you reappear
You suddenly find you got nothing to fear
Alone you stand with nobody near
When a trembling distant voice, unclear
Startles your sleeping ears to hear
That somebody thinks
They really found you.

A question in your nerves is lit
Yet you know there is no answer fit to satisfy
Insure you not to quit
To keep it in your mind and not fergit
That it is not he or she or them or it
That you belong to.

Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools
I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.

For them that must obey authority
That they do not respect in any degree
Who despise their jobs, their destinies
Speak jealously of them that are free
Cultivate their flowers to be
Nothing more than something
They invest in.

While some on principles baptized
To strict party platform ties
Social clubs in drag disguise
Outsiders they can freely criticize
Tell nothing except who to idolize
And then say God bless him.

While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.

But I mean no harm nor put fault
On anyone that lives in a vault
But it's alright, Ma, if I can't please him.

Old lady judges watch people in pairs
Limited in sex, they dare
To push fake morals, insult and stare
While money doesn't talk, it swears
Obscenity, who really cares
Propaganda, all is phony.

While them that defend what they cannot see
With a killer's pride, security
It blows the minds most bitterly
For them that think death's honesty
Won't fall upon them naturally
Life sometimes
Must get lonely.

My eyes collide head-on with stuffed graveyards
False gods, I scuff
At pettiness which plays so rough
Walk upside-down inside handcuffs
Kick my legs to crash it off
Say okay, I have had enough
What else can you show me?

And if my thought-dreams could be seen
They'd probably put my head in a guillotine
But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only.
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: Black Excellence on July 13, 2008, 03:07:06 PM: a fucked up comparison for bob dylan.
Title: Re: Time Magazine Compares Lil Wayne To Bob Dylan (LMAO)
Post by: late night on July 13, 2008, 04:36:24 PM: i can see the comparison, I have like 8 bob dylan albums he basically sings and does whatever he wants, I get the same vibe from wayne, he's just free to do whatever the fuck

he wants and raps in that style,

I don't know about him being the next 2pac, 2pac was way more conscious and passionate in the way he rhymed and carried himself.