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Title: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on July 10, 2008, 09:46:02 AM
"Reflection Eternal" is one of the classic hip-hop albums to me of all-time.  And in the top 3 of "conscious hip-hop albums" of all time.  Hi-Tek's production was flawless, he incorporated a wide variety of sounds, from African drumming to Rick James, yet he provided contininuity throughout the whole album, something that the other albums lack.

His newer albums have a Kanye joint here and there, but I miss the days when one producer would hold down a whole record, like Dre with Snoop's "Doggystyle" or when Organized Noise held down Outkasts first couple records, or Warren G with the Twinz, Dove Shack.  Those are the records I really love.  One producer, continuity of sound and concept throughout, rather than a collection of tracks.

And Talib had some classic joints on that album, like the prophetic chorus "Where were you the day hip-hop died, is it too early to mourn is it to late to ride?"

"Sweet Memories", "The Blast" were classic joints, and the guest appearances were all necassary and in sync with the sound and concept, Xzibit came through with a hott verse, Mos Def was up in there, Kool G. Rap, Nelson Mandela even made a guest appearance. 

Great concept, great message, production, lyrics... this album had it all.  But I haven't felt any of his other albums, nor any of his other joints he's done since.  I loved his work with Mos Def on there Black Star album back in the day, but that was a couple years before Reflection Eternal.

Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on July 10, 2008, 09:53:13 AM
i agree that the album is incredible and obviously his best work, but not all the albums after were wack, maybe only beautiful struggle, but thats it....i enjoyed his last album.....and btw, that wasnt nelson mandela, it was dave chapelle doing an impression of him
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: OchoCinco on July 10, 2008, 10:23:20 AM
talib and mos def cd blackstar is dope ....u hsould peep that 8)
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: es-jay on July 10, 2008, 10:34:16 AM
Nelson Mandela even made a guest appearance. 

 ::)



Quality was a good album aswell, i really enjoyed it.


Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: everlast1986 on July 10, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
'Black Star', and 'Train Of Thought' are classics.  'Quality' and 'Liberation' (which Madlib produced the whole album) are well above average. 'Ear Drum' and 'The Beauiful Struggle' just have some good tracks but thats it.
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: Invincible on July 10, 2008, 01:44:23 PM
talib and mos def cd blackstar is dope ....u hsould peep that 8)

in my ride at the moment. Dope indeed.
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: NotoriousTDA on July 10, 2008, 02:23:53 PM
i agree that the album is incredible and obviously his best work, but not all the albums after were wack, maybe only beautiful struggle, but thats it....i enjoyed his last album.....and btw, that wasnt nelson mandela, it was dave chapelle doing an impression of him


LOL!!!!!!

But yeah R.E. was dope, theres no questioning that. Big Del from da Natti was like my favourite track, that beat was sooooo hot! Too bad talib didnt rip that beat man, kind of a waste.
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest
Post by: R1ZE on July 10, 2008, 04:51:02 PM
i liked quality and beatiful struggle.

right about now was aight... ill let it slide cause it was officially just a mixtape

but eardrum.... thats some garbage. i dont know what people see in that album
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: everlast1986 on July 10, 2008, 05:21:26 PM
Theres some sleepers on 'Ear Drum' like "Say Something, "Perfect Beat", "In The Mood", "Hostile Takeover Parts 1 & 2". But theres just someting missing from it that makes me not listen to it the whole way through. Same with 'Beautiful Struggle'.
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: Invincible on July 10, 2008, 08:37:12 PM
Theres some sleepers on 'Ear Drum' like "Say Something, "Perfect Beat", "In The Mood", "Hostile Takeover Parts 1 & 2". But theres just someting missing from it that makes me not listen to it the whole way through. Same with 'Beautiful Struggle'.

Its the fact that there is a consistent sound to the album. Although I'm not a massive fan of the album, Cham's last album is a good example, that did have it and thats why it was rated highly on here. Perfect Beat is seriously ill though.
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: white Boy on July 11, 2008, 03:28:48 AM
i liked quality, and buitiful stuggle was ooook, but yea, traij of thought was dope as fuck, actually relistening it now, i heard a quote that i missed before, that i heard in my world music class (from africa) "if you can talk you can sing, if you can walk you can dance", dopeness
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest
Post by: virtuoso on July 11, 2008, 05:44:26 AM

My favourite Talib album is Quality but I agree the ones that have followed though containing some good songs, have been extremely disappointing. However I put that down to too many bullshit beats and as a matter of fact he sounds uninspired in many ways.
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest
Post by: Doggystylin on July 11, 2008, 01:50:16 PM
Nelson Mandela even made a guest appearance. 





lmao
Title: Re: I the only one who thinks Talib Kwelis first album was classic and the rest wak
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 11, 2008, 02:01:27 PM
The Beautiful Struggle and Listen sucked a bag of dicks.