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Title: 213- Tha Hard Way is a great...
Post by: D~Nice on July 15, 2008, 04:15:28 PM
Summer album. I only bump it in the ride during the summertime for some reason. It's just one of those summertime albums. Have really no need to bump it any other time and I don't think it is a classic album. But I have bumped it on the regular every summer since it came out.
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Post by: Twisted Smoke on July 15, 2008, 04:26:45 PM
Hell Yea Homie!
The tracks in Yellow are my Faves:


1. Intro
2. Twist Yo Body
3. Absolutely
4. Keep It Gangsta
5. Run On Up
6. Groupie Luv
7. Lonely Girl
8. Another Summer featuring Latoiya Williams
9. 213 tha Gangsta Clicc
10. Gotta Find a Way
11. Ups & Downs featuring Boki
12. Joysticc
13. Rick James interlude
14. Mary Jane
15. MLK
16. Lil Girl
17. My Dirty Ho
18. Appreciation
19. So Fly
20. Whistle While You Hustle featuring Daz & Soopafly
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Post by: D~Nice on July 15, 2008, 04:29:50 PM
I have been stuck on MLK all week.
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Post by: Twisted Smoke on July 15, 2008, 04:31:30 PM
^^^ Also Tight!

When I first got this I could not stop bumping "213 tha Gangsta Clicc"  8)
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Post by: rhythmalism on July 15, 2008, 04:32:26 PM
joysticc is the shit  8) 8)
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Post by: Desert Lord on July 15, 2008, 04:32:43 PM
this is definetly a great summer album..and in my opinion it IS a classic 8)
i like every track but outstanding for me:

run on up
summertime
nigga got to find a way
ups & downs
i'm fly...

but hard to chose
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Post by: Desert Lord on July 15, 2008, 04:34:10 PM
confused the tracknames but y'all know wich tracks was ment  ;D
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Post by: Furor Teutonicus on July 15, 2008, 04:35:44 PM
gotta  bump that now again... Another Summer + So Fly and Mlk gives the doctor chills 8)
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Post by: J$crILLa on July 15, 2008, 04:37:32 PM
yeah its a dope album
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Post by: R-Tistic on July 15, 2008, 05:11:22 PM
LOL....for some reason, this song was a MAJOR hit in Florida, but never made noise anywhere else.
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Post by: Blood$ on July 15, 2008, 05:12:58 PM
I honestly have never listened to this whole album yet, I'm about to now though
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Post by: G-Funk on July 15, 2008, 05:21:52 PM
I honestly have never listened to this whole album yet, I'm about to now though
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Post by: Mackin on July 15, 2008, 06:10:41 PM
I have been stuck on MLK all week.

That beat is Nice!!

If they were to work on another album, I'd like them to flow on beats of that style!
Their vocals were  crisp, clear and sharp!
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Post by: NotoriousTDA on July 15, 2008, 06:15:49 PM
Another Summer, is one of my favourtie Kanye beats of all time. That shit is sooooo smooth.
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Post by: D~Nice on July 15, 2008, 06:21:39 PM
I have been stuck on MLK all week.

That beat is Nice!!

If they were to work on another album, I'd like them to flow on beats of that style!
Their vocals were  crisp, clear and sharp!


And Warren G HAS to produce it.
Another Summer, is one of my favourtie Kanye beats of all time. That shit is sooooo smooth.

They really should have done a video for that. That song would have BLOWN UP.
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Post by: NotoriousTDA on July 15, 2008, 06:26:12 PM
I have been stuck on MLK all week.

That beat is Nice!!

If they were to work on another album, I'd like them to flow on beats of that style!
Their vocals were  crisp, clear and sharp!


And Warren G HAS to produce it.
Another Summer, is one of my favourtie Kanye beats of all time. That shit is sooooo smooth.

They really should have done a video for that. That song would have BLOWN UP.

Oh man!!! That video would of been tight tooo!!
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Post by: Mackin on July 15, 2008, 06:26:49 PM
I have been stuck on MLK all week.

That beat is Nice!!

If they were to work on another album, I'd like them to flow on beats of that style!
Their vocals were  crisp, clear and sharp!


And Warren G HAS to produce it.
..Well i'd like him to be amongst the line up of Producers!
I'd throw in Terrace Martin, Hi-Tek and perhaps Soopafly!
Maybe i'm reaching here, but i'd like to see thm flowing on more bigger, mature sounds [If i can use that phrase]
Not necessary a Party Album, more like a chilled out album, with a jazzy feel to it...
But that's just me...
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Post by: D~Nice on July 15, 2008, 06:32:41 PM
I have been stuck on MLK all week.

That beat is Nice!!

If they were to work on another album, I'd like them to flow on beats of that style!
Their vocals were  crisp, clear and sharp!


And Warren G HAS to produce it.
..Well i'd like him to be amongst the line up of Producers!
I'd throw in Terrace Martin, Hi-Tek and perhaps Soopafly!
Maybe i'm reaching here, but i'd like to see thm flowing on more bigger, mature sounds [If i can use that phrase]
Not necessary a Party Album, more like a chilled out album, with a jazzy feel to it...
But that's just me...

I agree. This album's sound I instantly digged, which surprised me a little bit because it was not what I was expecting. But for me at a BBQ or just cruising, this is what I always play during the summertime.
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Post by: Mackin on July 15, 2008, 07:08:21 PM
^^Well you are not the only one that was kinda caught off guard with the overall sound. Admittedly i only played certain songs based on their title at first, until i decided to play the Cd from star to finish, that i enjoyed it a lot more..weird how things happen
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Post by: Okka on July 15, 2008, 07:29:16 PM
Great album, "MLK" and "Keep It Gangsta" are my favorite songs. Gotta bump this album later today.
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Post by: Black Gloves on July 15, 2008, 07:29:56 PM
I honestly have never listened to this whole album yet, I'm about to now though
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Post by: Lunatic on July 15, 2008, 08:28:51 PM
hell ya a great summer album! agreed D, FAR from classic - had a lot of potential and fell short of my personal expectations.
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Post by: D~Nice on July 15, 2008, 08:53:43 PM
hell ya a great summer album! agreed D, FAR from classic - had a lot of potential and fell short of my personal expectations.

I knew once I read the credits it would be something different. But musically I dig it. I own alot of west coast albums in my collection like that.
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Post by: Lunatic on July 15, 2008, 08:54:39 PM
hell ya a great summer album! agreed D, FAR from classic - had a lot of potential and fell short of my personal expectations.

I knew once I read the credits it would be something different. But musically I dig it. I own alot of west coast albums in my collection like that.
Hate to be like everyone else, but some Warren G production would have done them good.
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Post by: Al Bundy on July 15, 2008, 08:57:55 PM
record still gets spins from me. and yeah, it is definently a summer album fo sho.
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Post by: D~Nice on July 15, 2008, 09:03:08 PM
hell ya a great summer album! agreed D, FAR from classic - had a lot of potential and fell short of my personal expectations.

I knew once I read the credits it would be something different. But musically I dig it. I own alot of west coast albums in my collection like that.
Hate to be like everyone else, but some Warren G production would have done them good.

To me it's like having Fred Wreck do a NWA album with Dre still on it. Yeah it probably still would sound great, but you already have a core producer that so happens to be already in the group. I won't get started on that with 213, I still enjoyed the album.
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Post by: Al Bundy on July 15, 2008, 09:06:04 PM
that So Fly track brings back memories. Shit is one of my favorite tracks ever.
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Post by: Lunatic on July 15, 2008, 09:06:21 PM
hell ya a great summer album! agreed D, FAR from classic - had a lot of potential and fell short of my personal expectations.

I knew once I read the credits it would be something different. But musically I dig it. I own alot of west coast albums in my collection like that.
Hate to be like everyone else, but some Warren G production would have done them good.

To me it's like having Fred Wreck do a NWA album with Dre still on it. Yeah it probably still would sound great, but you already have a core producer that so happens to be already in the group. I won't get started on that with 213, I still enjoyed the album.
Exactly. And the reason he didn't produce was so he could "concentrate on his lyrics." I mean, no offence to Warren but ain't no fan ever been a fan of Warren G cause he spits dope lyrics - he's not a lyrical cat - if u like him, it's his style of production with his dope voice and laid back attitude on the mic - sorry to rant lol i just couldn't believe it was his lyrics that stopped him from producing on this cd.

still a good cd
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Post by: D~Nice on July 15, 2008, 09:09:39 PM
hell ya a great summer album! agreed D, FAR from classic - had a lot of potential and fell short of my personal expectations.

I knew once I read the credits it would be something different. But musically I dig it. I own alot of west coast albums in my collection like that.
Hate to be like everyone else, but some Warren G production would have done them good.

To me it's like having Fred Wreck do a NWA album with Dre still on it. Yeah it probably still would sound great, but you already have a core producer that so happens to be already in the group. I won't get started on that with 213, I still enjoyed the album.
Exactly. And the reason he didn't produce was so he could "concentrate on his lyrics." I mean, no offence to Warren but ain't no fan ever been a fan of Warren G cause he spits dope lyrics - he's not a lyrical cat - if u like him, it's his style of production with his dope voice and laid back attitude on the mic - sorry to rant lol i just couldn't believe it was his lyrics that stopped him from producing on this cd.

still a good cd

Might take a drastic karma hit on this but oh well

Warren G lyrically was GARBAGE IMO on that whole album damn near. Snoop was cool but Nate did the damn thing on that album. A Nate solo over those beats would have been dope, but Warren just did not bring it for me.
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Post by: Lunatic on July 15, 2008, 09:10:43 PM
hell ya a great summer album! agreed D, FAR from classic - had a lot of potential and fell short of my personal expectations.

I knew once I read the credits it would be something different. But musically I dig it. I own alot of west coast albums in my collection like that.
Hate to be like everyone else, but some Warren G production would have done them good.

To me it's like having Fred Wreck do a NWA album with Dre still on it. Yeah it probably still would sound great, but you already have a core producer that so happens to be already in the group. I won't get started on that with 213, I still enjoyed the album.
Exactly. And the reason he didn't produce was so he could "concentrate on his lyrics." I mean, no offence to Warren but ain't no fan ever been a fan of Warren G cause he spits dope lyrics - he's not a lyrical cat - if u like him, it's his style of production with his dope voice and laid back attitude on the mic - sorry to rant lol i just couldn't believe it was his lyrics that stopped him from producing on this cd.

still a good cd

Might take a drastic karma hit on this but oh well

Warren G lyrically was GARBAGE IMO on that whole album damn near. Snoop was cool but Nate did the damn thing on that album. A Nate solo over those beats would have been dope, but Warren just did not bring it for me.
I'll take it with u ;D
Yeah, I must admit listening to that album and one of my first responses was "wow how warren g has fallen off" :-\  Yeah, the main thing I was looking forward to was hearing another album full of Nate Dogg.
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Post by: underdog on July 15, 2008, 10:24:55 PM
lets be honest that shit was wack as fuck, they shoulda made it in 93-4-5-even 6
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Post by: R1ZE on July 15, 2008, 11:46:42 PM
he best of 213 + the best of r&g (snoop) - good album
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Post by: lost_assassin on July 15, 2008, 11:59:34 PM
they shoulda let warren g produced some tracks,

not knockin nebody but production coulda been better , just the drums...everytin else was fine. n no features ?

but that gangsta clicc song is somethin else!
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Post by: Rickdeeznutz on July 16, 2008, 12:01:18 AM
This is definatelly a good album, could of been done better. But it came out pretty good.....


I remember hearing that Warren G was goin to remix the album and produce a diffrent beat for evry song..Did this ever come out??
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Post by: G-Funk on July 16, 2008, 01:12:35 AM
This is definatelly a good album, could of been done better. But it came out pretty good.....


I remember hearing that Warren G was goin to remix the album and produce a diffrent beat for evry song..Did this ever come out??

Nope, not yet.
lol I found a petition thing that wanted warren to remix the album, as you said.
http://www.petitiononline.com/213remix/petition.html
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Post by: Dre-Day on July 16, 2008, 01:18:28 AM
hell ya a great summer album! agreed D, FAR from classic - had a lot of potential and fell short of my personal expectations.

I knew once I read the credits it would be something different. But musically I dig it. I own alot of west coast albums in my collection like that.
Hate to be like everyone else, but some Warren G production would have done them good.

To me it's like having Fred Wreck do a NWA album with Dre still on it. Yeah it probably still would sound great, but you already have a core producer that so happens to be already in the group. I won't get started on that with 213, I still enjoyed the album.

well you know, shit happens when snoop leads a project  :P
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Post by: smegma on July 16, 2008, 01:21:24 AM
Is it mind blowing? No. In no way it's a classic, but it's a nice consistant album that you can play all the way through.

I do have a few complains though:
1. This album was 10 years overdue;
2. There was no Warren G production;
3. The Warren G remix album never came out.
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Post by: Rickdeeznutz on July 16, 2008, 01:32:48 AM
This is definatelly a good album, could of been done better. But it came out pretty good.....


I remember hearing that Warren G was goin to remix the album and produce a diffrent beat for evry song..Did this ever come out??

Nope, not yet.
lol I found a petition thing that wanted warren to remix the album, as you said.
http://www.petitiononline.com/213remix/petition.html

Man,this should of came out, I bet it would turn out alot better!
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Post by: weedhead on July 16, 2008, 01:40:07 AM

i love this lp.from day one.yet its funny how everybody has a change of heart about the album...
time is funny...and so are the fans...just thought warren-g should have put production on it. 8)
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Post by: smegma on July 16, 2008, 01:42:05 AM
This is definatelly a good album, could of been done better. But it came out pretty good.....


I remember hearing that Warren G was goin to remix the album and produce a diffrent beat for evry song..Did this ever come out??

Nope, not yet.
lol I found a petition thing that wanted warren to remix the album, as you said.
http://www.petitiononline.com/213remix/petition.html

Man,this should of came out, I bet it would turn out alot better!

Yeah, Engelwood started that petition back then. It made Warren G do a promise that a remix album would come out.
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Post by: Bojakabo on July 16, 2008, 02:19:53 AM
yeah this is a good album, i still can not understand all the hate it got from this forum..
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Post by: Lazar on July 16, 2008, 02:24:03 AM
Love the album, definitely a personal classic.

Fav tracks:
Another Summer (one of my fav Kanye beats, shit is so damn smooth. wish Snoop would start working again with Kanye)
Run On Up
MLK
My Dirty Hoe
Appreciation
Lil Girl

Hopefully they will make another album in the next years, but I doubt this will happen  :-\
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Post by: Okka on July 16, 2008, 02:41:01 AM
If Snoop, Nate and Warren are workin on a new 213 album, Warren G should produce the whole album, if not then Battlecat.
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Post by: G-Funk on July 16, 2008, 02:45:38 AM
Hopefully they will make another album in the next years, but I doubt this will happen  :-\

Yeah, its a small chance sadly :-\
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Post by: Twisted Smoke on July 17, 2008, 04:32:08 PM
BUMP!  8)
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Post by: LooN3y on July 17, 2008, 04:35:41 PM
i loved it Keep It Gangsta was my favorite, but too bad kurupt wasnt on it. i hope they make another one
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Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 17, 2008, 08:25:44 PM
I have been stuck on MLK all week.


I love that track, been having that on repeat, just a smooth as track
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Post by: GottiValentino on July 17, 2008, 08:58:53 PM
hell yeah dope summertime album 8)

I agree that Warren G should have produced it so it could be a true 213 album
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Post by: Jimmy H. on July 17, 2008, 09:20:51 PM
I was kind of pissed about the Warren thing but I really love this album. A dope one for the summer. That "Lonely Girl" track is the shit too!
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Post by: Desert Lord on July 20, 2008, 01:39:48 PM
how can anybody talk shit about the beats on that album? the beat was top notch (esp. b sharp aka battlecat)...don't know one beat on this album that don't bang! yeah a few warren beats would be nice, too...but that don't mean that you can diss just one of the beats.
and i still don't understand all that talking about "classic" or "not classic but good" and shit like that! what the fuck!!?!?! if you feel an album to the fullest, who gives a shit about people call it classic or not, then?! i know everybody have their own opinion, but stop talking things to death with that bullshit. don't have to agree with me but for me, personaly "the hard way" is DEFINETLY a classic!
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Post by: Mygla on July 20, 2008, 01:52:48 PM
that So Fly track brings back memories. Shit is one of my favorite tracks ever.

That song was THE SHIT in the summer of '03!

It was an enjoyable album, I felt:
Yo Sassy Ways
Wait A Minute
Give It Up
Another Summer
Gotta Find A Way
Joystick
MLK
Appreciation (second best song on the album IMO [after So Fly], that beat is fucking classic modern g funk)
So Fly
that's 9 songs I really enjoyed on an album, doesn't happen too ofter :p
Oh, and they should've kept Falling In Love Again on it... that's a great track.
And word to whoever said a Nate solo-album with these beats would be great, Nate really shone on a lot of this album...
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Post by: Blood$ on July 20, 2008, 01:54:09 PM
bumped the album about a week ago... liked it for the most part, might give it another listen today  8)