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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Citizen-Y on July 29, 2008, 06:17:14 PM
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Ron Artest set for deal to Rockets
Bobby Jackson, first-round pick to go to Sacramento
By JONATHAN FEIGEN Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
July 29, 2008, 7:09PM
In what had been a quiet offseason, the Rockets are about to make a lot of noise.
In a stunning move designed to push the Rockets from solid playoff team toward legitimate NBA contenders, the Rockets reached agreement Tuesday with the Sacramento Kings to acquire gifted but controversial forward Ron Artest, according to an NBA executive with knowledge of the deal.
The Rockets will give up guard Bobby Jackson, a No. 1 draft pick next season and another player that the individual with knowledge of the trade could not name. Rockets general manager Daryl Morey could not be immediately reached for comment.
Because of contract considerations, the trade will not be announced until Aug. 14, though that would indicate the deal could include Rockets’ first round draft pick Donte’ Greene. Greene is not permitted to be traded until then, one month from when he signed with the Rockets.
There could also be other players involved to make the money match but none that the Rockets would plan to keep. The Rockets will also send the Kings cash in excess of $1 million.
Artest, 28, is considered one of the NBA’s most unpredictable characters and was the central figure in a 2004-05 brawl with fans in Auburn Hills, Mich. He is also considered among the league’s toughest lock-down defenders and sometimes, an unstoppable offensive force.
The 39 points he scored against the Rockets in 2006-07 season are his career high.
A 6-7, 248 pound forward, he had publicly lamented his decision last month not to opt out of the last season of his contract to become a free agent, renewing the Kings’ efforts to move him.
Artest played 40 games for Rockets coach Rick Adelman after he was traded by the Indiana Pacers to the Kings in the 2005-06 season, averaging 16.9 points, 5.2 rebounds and a career-high 4.2 assists. He was also a first-team NBA All-Defensive team selection. He offered to donate his salary if the Kings were willing to retain Adelman after that season.
In nine NBA seasons out of St. John’s, where he was a third-team All-American, Artest has averaged 16 points and 5.1 rebounds. He was the 2003-04 NBA Defensive Player of the Year. He averaged 20.5 points per game last season.
Artest, however, has been unable to stay clear from trouble. He was arrested in March 2007 and charged with domestic abuse and eventually sentenced to 20 days in jail and community service. That sentence was reduced to 10 days in a work release program. He had also been charged with animal neglect, though charges were not filed and Artest has since worked with People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals on several campaigns.
In addition to his 73-game suspension after going into the stands in the Nov. 19, 2004 brawl (the longest suspension in NBA history other than for drug policy violations or gambling), he has been suspended for destroying a television camera in New York, for an altercation with then Heat coach Pat Riley in Miami and for numerous flagrant fouls.
Drafted by the Chicago Bulls in 1999, he was traded in 2002 to the Pacers, having some of his best seasons, including his one All Star season in 2003-04. Prior to the fight in 2004, he was suspended for two games for asking for a month off to promote an R&B album by a group on his production label.
After his return to the Pacers the season after the fight, he asked for a trade and was placed on the inactive roster.
Though Artest has been best used as a small forward, Rockets forward Shane Battier is also considered among the league’s best players at defending small forwards and shooting guards. But because Artest can defend players from small guards to power forwards, the Rockets could finish games with Artest and Battier on the court together, either with Tracy McGrady sliding over to point guard or with Artest matching up with power forwards.
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nice deal for them
poor Lakers coulda used him and his D
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Battier and Artest is going to make the Rockets sick defensively.
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and Yao and T-mac healthy all year long would be ill
ofcourse thats a dream
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and Yao and T-mac healthy all year long would be ill
ofcourse thats a dream
It's got to happen one of these years!
I hope :(
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and Yao and T-mac healthy all year long would be ill
ofcourse thats a dream
It's got to happen one of these years!
I hope :(
you a Rockets fan?
does anyone in houston ever dare compare Yao to the legend Hakeem?
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Why did those fuckers not take Stackhouse and Brandon Bass?!? FUCK THIS
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and Yao and T-mac healthy all year long would be ill
ofcourse thats a dream
It's got to happen one of these years!
I hope :(
you a Rockets fan?
does anyone in houston ever dare compare Yao to the legend Hakeem?
Only the ones from China and they don't even know who Hakeem is anyway.
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Great deal for Houston. Bobby Jackson, a 1st Round Pick, AND Donte Greene is also pretty good in for Sacramento, considering Artest wasn't gunna re-sign. Houston is gunna be trouble next year, though.
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and Yao and T-mac healthy all year long would be ill
ofcourse thats a dream
It's got to happen one of these years!
I hope :(
you a Rockets fan?
does anyone in houston ever dare compare Yao to the legend Hakeem?
Only the ones from China and they don't even know who Hakeem is anyway.
haha bastids
what's the biggest team in Houston? Rockets, Astros or Texans? or texas college football?
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Fuck. McGrady, Yao, and Artest are going to be trouble in the West.
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Why did those fuckers not take Stackhouse and Brandon Bass?!? FUCK THIS
If the player to be named is Donte Green, then it definitely makes sense why they took this deal over that. This is a much better offer than Stackhouse and Bass, especially considering the Kings' needs. Big deal, the top teams in the West are starting to distinguish themselves from the rest, unlike last year where the difference between the #1 and #8 seed was only 7 games. This year, I expect a bigger difference, and a dropoff somewhere in between the #4 to #6 seeds with the last couple playoff teams.
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
Artest loves Adelman to much.
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Why are you niggas saying it's Greene? Is that on the news somewhere?
Bass > First Round pick from Houston. He's becoming a beast.
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
and now SALMONS IS GONNA START AND SHINE!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Why are you niggas saying it's Greene? Is that on the news somewhere?
Bass > First Round pick from Houston. He's becoming a beast.
is ESPN good enough for you?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3510261
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
Artest loves Adelman to much.
and vice versa. ron wont cause problems for rick.
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
and now SALMONS IS GONNA START AND SHINE!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yep! They essentially get two first rounders and a guy who was a crowd favorite in Sac for a guy that damn near everybody wanted gone.
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
and now SALMONS IS GONNA START AND SHINE!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yep! They essentially get two first rounders and a guy who was a crowd favorite in Sac for a guy that damn near everybody wanted gone.
yeah and now this is officially "MARTINS TEAM" ;D 8)
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
Artest loves Adelman to much.
Artest is going to be Artest sooner or later...
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
and now SALMONS IS GONNA START AND SHINE!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yep! They essentially get two first rounders and a guy who was a crowd favorite in Sac for a guy that damn near everybody wanted gone.
yeah and now this is officially "MARTINS TEAM" ;D 8)
Unfortunately, Martin is probably better suited to be a second option. Sac has a team full of young talent, now they just need a legit star. Did you hear about the proposed deal with Chicago for Nocioni, Noah and a future 1st for B Miller?
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If they stay healthy....Houston is gonna be TOUGH next year.
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the lakers still need to make a big move like this while still maintaining odom.
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the lakers still need to make a big move like this while still maintaining odom.
I don't necessarily know about that..Picking up another important piece would be nice, especially considering depth on the inside..But the big moves that they are basically counting on are a healthy Bynum and Ariza. They did make it to the Finals, and while everyone called them soft (especially me), they more than held their own on the inside against San Antonio and Utah.
This move should make Houston tougher, but don't be surprised if Sacramento is in the running. They were an unhealthy and confused squad last year, but still had a decent record and played good teams tough. They have a lot of young talent and this will let Theus prove his coaching abilities. Hopefully he takes the reins off a little bit and lets them get after it this year.
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damn thats a big pickup for houston
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damn thats a big pickup for houston
but not a positive one
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
and now SALMONS IS GONNA START AND SHINE!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yep! They essentially get two first rounders and a guy who was a crowd favorite in Sac for a guy that damn near everybody wanted gone.
yeah and now this is officially "MARTINS TEAM" ;D 8)
Unfortunately, Martin is probably better suited to be a second option. Sac has a team full of young talent, now they just need a legit star. Did you hear about the proposed deal with Chicago for Nocioni, Noah and a future 1st for B Miller?
HAHAHA! NO WAY!! 24 ppg on 14 shots is LEGIT Star numbers bro. And hes only getting BETTER!!! If he starts taking 20 shots per game, he could possibly avg 30 a game, not to mention how good he is at getting to the line. You must not watch the Kings much, becuz hes a legit young star that can offensively do it all..Did u hear what PJ had to say about him after the select team played the US?
Udrih, Martin, Salmons, Garcia, Hawes, Thompson, Douby are a nice young core we can have around for a long time. Throw in vets Mikey Moore, Brad Miller, Bobby Jackson, and youngsters like Sheldon and Bobby Brown\Singletary We have a bright future, and i would expect even more improvement next year..we should have a starting 5 that looks like this to start tha year
Udrih pg
Martin sg
Salmons Sf
Moore PF
Hawes C
Sheldon Williams, Douby, Garcia, Thompson, Bobby Jackson, and once Brad comes back thatll move Hawes to the bench. Thats a very solid bench right there..I think we gotta feel good about things, we are looking very deep.
And man id LOVE To get Nocioni and Noah for Brad, that would make us even deeper.
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Great deal for Sac. They get Green and a #1 for a headcase and a cancer, plus they bring back a guy who was always one of my favorites as a King in Bobby Jackson. Good luck on your impending implosion, Houston.
and now SALMONS IS GONNA START AND SHINE!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yep! They essentially get two first rounders and a guy who was a crowd favorite in Sac for a guy that damn near everybody wanted gone.
yeah and now this is officially "MARTINS TEAM" ;D 8)
Unfortunately, Martin is probably better suited to be a second option. Sac has a team full of young talent, now they just need a legit star. Did you hear about the proposed deal with Chicago for Nocioni, Noah and a future 1st for B Miller?
HAHAHA! NO WAY!! 24 ppg on 14 shots is LEGIT Star numbers bro. And hes only getting BETTER!!! If he starts taking 20 shots per game, he could possibly avg 30 a game, not to mention how good he is at getting to the line. You must not watch the Kings much, becuz hes a legit young star that can offensively do it all..Did u hear what PJ had to say about him after the select team played the US?
Udrih, Martin, Salmons, Garcia, Hawes, Thompson, Douby are a nice young core we can have around for a long time. Throw in vets Mikey Moore, Brad Miller, Bobby Jackson, and youngsters like Sheldon and Bobby Brown\Singletary We have a bright future, and i would expect even more improvement next year..we should have a starting 5 that looks like this to start tha year
Udrih pg
Martin sg
Salmons Sf
Moore PF
Hawes C
Sheldon Williams, Douby, Garcia, Thompson, Bobby Jackson, and once Brad comes back thatll move Hawes to the bench. Thats a very solid bench right there..I think we gotta feel good about things, we are looking very deep.
And man id LOVE To get Nocioni and Noah for Brad, that would make us even deeper.
Martin is a damn good scorer, but he seems more of a Pippen type than a Jordan type.
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damn thats a big pickup for houston
but not a positive one
its a 1 year risk
smart move
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Martin could be the number 1 option on a borderline playoff team, but not on a championship contender...unless he steps his game up even more this coming season. I like Salmons as a starter, as well, and Udrih is a solid starting point guard...I dunno about a front court of Moore and Hawes, though. Moore is alright, but sometimes can lack in production. Hawes is unproven, and until he proves he's a starting quality center in this league, I don't see the Kings doing big things with this roster any time soon...
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Martin could be the number 1 option on a borderline playoff team, but not on a championship contender...unless he steps his game up even more this coming season. I like Salmons as a starter, as well, and Udrih is a solid starting point guard...I dunno about a front court of Moore and Hawes, though. Moore is alright, but sometimes can lack in production. Hawes is unproven, and until he proves he's a starting quality center in this league, I don't see the Kings doing big things with this roster any time soon...
i cant agree wit that. year 5 should tell alot
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"I understand what Yao said, but I'm still ghetto," said Artest, who will earn $7.4 million next season and be a free agent next summer. "That's not going to change. I'm never going to change my culture. Yao has played with a lot of black players, but I don't think he's ever played with a black player that really represents his culture as much as I represent my culture."
lol...
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"I understand what Yao said, but I'm still ghetto," said Artest, who will earn $7.4 million next season and be a free agent next summer. "That's not going to change. I'm never going to change my culture. Yao has played with a lot of black players, but I don't think he's ever played with a black player that really represents his culture as much as I represent my culture."
lol...
LMAO. I think he does this on purpose ala Dennis Rodman, only unlike Rodman, he loses money over it... :-X
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BTW...what did Yao say?
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"I understand what Yao said, but I'm still ghetto," said Artest, who will earn $7.4 million next season and be a free agent next summer. "That's not going to change. I'm never going to change my culture. Yao has played with a lot of black players, but I don't think he's ever played with a black player that really represents his culture as much as I represent my culture."
lol...
fucking pathetic
fucking pathetic!
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BTW...what did Yao say?
Something along the lines of "I hope he's done fighting and going after guys in the stands." and "I worry about team chemistry."
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^^Haha, this already looks to be great. I'm so glad Artest is in the league, he does make it more entertaining.
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PG Rafer Alston...Steve Francis/Aaron Brooks
SG Tracy McGrady...Brent Barry/Luther Head
SF Ron Artest...Shane Battier/Mike Harris
PF Luis Scola...Chuck Hayes/Steve Novak
C Yao Ming...Dikembe Mutombo
Coach: Rick Adleman
Lookin nice.
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PG Rafer Alston...Steve Francis/Aaron Brooks
SG Tracy McGrady...Brent Barry/Luther Head
SF Ron Artest...Shane Battier/Mike Harris
PF Luis Scola...Chuck Hayes/Steve Novak
C Yao Ming...Dikembe Mutombo
Coach: Rick Carlisle
Lookin nice.
Rick Carlisle is the coach of the Rockets? I thought he was with the Mavs?
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PG Rafer Alston...Steve Francis/Aaron Brooks
SG Tracy McGrady...Brent Barry/Luther Head
SF Ron Artest...Shane Battier/Mike Harris
PF Luis Scola...Chuck Hayes/Steve Novak
C Yao Ming...Dikembe Mutombo
Coach: Rick Carlisle
Lookin nice.
Rick Carlisle is the coach of the Rockets? I thought he was with the Mavs?
he meant Rick Adleman
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my fault, i was faded
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my fault, i was faded
It's all good. A couple more of these Patron shots and I will be there too. ;D