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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: ToNe1904 on March 16, 2002, 02:18:27 AM
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Jus curiouz what yall pickz would be...
For me...
BEST = Bret Hart
WORST = Red Rooster LOL (Brooklyn Brawler a close second, hes actually worse...but...tha Red Rooster was easily tha STUPIDEST character eva lol)
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best= Bret Hart..
i like Undertaker a lot too...
worst.. cant rememba any
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RED ROSTER??????
Terry Taylor was actually a great wrestler, just the Roster gimmack was stupit as hell. HUMMM...
Best: Bruno Sammartino
Worst: Giant Gonzales
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best- HBK
worst- giant gonzales
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Best, HBK, Bret Hart, Ric Flair
Worst: Konnan. Couldn't stand the guy... he's probably the only wrestler I've ever totally hated, the rest are alright.
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Best:HBK,Hogan,Jimmy "superfly" Snuka,Bret Heart,and Owen Heart(R.I.P)
WORST:George "The Animal" Steele
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Best:
Hogan, Michaels, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Savage, Backlund, Snuka
Worst:
Duke "the dumpster" Droce, Bastion Booger, the Goon,
Renegade, Louie Spicolli, Sparkplug Holly, Mantaur,
Kamala, Giant Gonzales aka El Gigante, Leif Cassidy
to tell ya the truth, the above isnt the worst wrestler list, more like the worst gimmick......
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RED ROSTER??????
Terry Taylor was actually a great wrestler, just the Roster gimmack was stupit as hell. HUMMM...
Best: Bruno Sammartino
Worst: Giant Gonzales
thas why i put Red Rooster and not Terry Taylor lol
jus like id put Hulk Hogan on tha "best list" and put "Hollywood" Hogan on tha Worst list, i cant stand watchin that fossil wrestle anymore. lol its like watchin it in slow motion. ha
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in all actualality Shawn Michaels SHOULD be the hands down best (he's not even really my all time fav wrestler so i'm not biased at all)
on the real he had athletic talent and a great if not one of the best gimmacks, he was almost always the littlest man in the ring so he Heart oozing out of his ass , nose, and ears, and he could ALWAYS sell a match no matter how bad the other opponent was
i mean Hogon was great but he was mostly all character, like SCSA, i'm not hating really becuase he did a lot for the sport but when i watch old tapes from old wrestlemanias he wasn't all that athletic and had some pretty simple moves
Flair- like hogan did alot for the sport and was good at selling his matches, and he did have some good athletism, but i don't believe he's the best wrestler, he's a legand...but not the best wrestler
the only one i think whose near shawn michaels really is bret hart, and i hated that dude since he was just a tag team wrestler
i probably offended a lot of people but HBK gets my vote
the worst: i think it's kinda gay to downgrade anyone whose made it that far becuase wrestling IS harder than it looks and even the sorriest dudes like spike dudly get my respect, but my vote would have to go to half of those woman wrestlers like stacy keibler ,who are great to gauk at, but SUCK and can't even wrestler, they're just out there for their looks
i don't watch wrestling anymore though becuase it's FAR FAR too predictable and isn't even exciting no more , everything is far too cliche, even with this new NWO twist they got, Scott Hall sucks, and Kevin Nash is Even worse , and Hogan is washed up, the only thing they got is RVD, The Hardy's , that little chinese dude, Edge as far as actul wrestling moves excitment goes, and theres only 2 characters on the mic that are entertaining , Rock and SCSA.....not enough to keep me interested anymore after 15 years or so of watching it
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HBK is tha greatest sports entertainer of all-time, no other wrestler had tha in ring ability an mic skills as HBK. Some have great mic skill but not great in tha ring, ex: austin, rock, hogan. Some have great in ring ability but no mic skills like bret hart. but no other wrestler had tha jus tha same amount of overall talent HBK had, tha only 2 wrestler in my mind that are on HBK's level are flair an jericho. an plus HBK is tha only wrestler ever to carry sid to a halfway decent match.
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that's what i'm sayin' i've yet to see anyone who could effectively do both and do them the best , before or after HBK
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Best - Bret Hart, HBk, Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Savage
Best Tag Team - Demoliton, Hart foundation, L.O.D., Rockers
Worst - william regal, brooklyn brawler
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in all actualality Shawn Michaels SHOULD be the hands down best (he's not even really my all time fav wrestler so i'm not biased at all)
on the real he had athletic talent and a great if not one of the best gimmacks, he was almost always the littlest man in the ring so he Heart oozing out of his ass , nose, and ears, and he could ALWAYS sell a match no matter how bad the other opponent was
i mean Hogon was great but he was mostly all character, like SCSA, i'm not hating really becuase he did a lot for the sport but when i watch old tapes from old wrestlemanias he wasn't all that athletic and had some pretty simple moves
Flair- like hogan did alot for the sport and was good at selling his matches, and he did have some good athletism, but i don't believe he's the best wrestler, he's a legand...but not the best wrestler
the only one i think whose near shawn michaels really is bret hart, and i hated that dude since he was just a tag team wrestler
i probably offended a lot of people but HBK gets my vote
the worst: i think it's kinda gay to downgrade anyone whose made it that far becuase wrestling IS harder than it looks and even the sorriest dudes like spike dudly get my respect, but my vote would have to go to half of those woman wrestlers like stacy keibler ,who are great to gauk at, but SUCK and can't even wrestler, they're just out there for their looks
i don't watch wrestling anymore though becuase it's FAR FAR too predictable and isn't even exciting no more , everything is far too cliche, even with this new NWO twist they got, Scott Hall sucks, and Kevin Nash is Even worse , and Hogan is washed up, the only thing they got is RVD, The Hardy's , that little chinese dude, Edge as far as actul wrestling moves excitment goes, and theres only 2 characters on the mic that are entertaining , Rock and SCSA.....not enough to keep me interested anymore after 15 years or so of watching it
i feel what you sayin cuz except on 2 points
what u said about hogan was true,
however u cant deny Flair as top 3 of all time, AT LEAST
about michaels,
great athlete? phenomonal
gimmick? ditto
but as much of a anti-Hart u are, im the same with Michaels
and as much of a Pro-Michaels, im the same with Hart
hands down, Bret HART is the GOAT of wrestling.....
my view...:d
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I'm tired of wrestlers just getting off on gimmacks. It's like Kevin Nash and Sid were great because they had cool gimmicks and Terry Taylor sucks 'cause his the Red Roster, though he'd wrestle circle around them and had more talent. Oh well, that's what makes wrestling wrestling, but with people like the Dudleys, like right now they are not quite as over as before, but in ECW they never got old, 'cause they were allowed more mic time, and were tha FUCKIN' SHIT on the mic. Same as Taz, and Shane Douglas. People like RVD are just really good wrestlers, so mic time isn't important. Only few wrestlers today are actually good wrestlers and great mic workers, Jericho, Triple H and Kurt Angel. The rest are good at either one or the other. Steve Austin used to be a damn good mat wrestler, but after the broken neck, he became more of a brawler so that certain moves could risk him further injury for his push.
Here's my personal listing of greatest wrestlers after watching wrestling since 1985, back when I was 5, and renting even older tapes 'cause I was a great wrestling mark in high school. Just top 5 though
Greatest wrestlers of all time:
1 Bruno Sammartino: WWF champion for 8 years. Possibly the strongest man in wrestling history, and never took steriods. (he snich on Vince McMahon for suppling his wrestlers) One of the greatest mat wrestlers, but specialized in power moves, and sold out many crowds. Never depended on the same moves, always had a different match.
2 Shawn Michaels: One of the most athlete wrestlers ever, could make any wrestler look good. Mixed scientifical wrestling with high flying wrestling. One of the last few wrestlers that had matches that made sense. Michaels was without a doubt, the best modern wrestler. Can sell a move better than any one in history.
3 Ric Flair: Dirtyest player in the game, Flair was a great mat wrestler, as well as a great psycological wrestler. Flair was able to play the crowd like no other and was easy to hate. Flair also was great at bleeding, and was able to sell a move and face wrestler like he was in the worst danger of his life.
4 Bret Hart: Best there is, best there was, and the best there ever will be. OK, maybe not completly, but he was damn close. Bret was the best mat wrestler I've ever seen, and his matches were not spot fest, or random wresting holds, but an actual match. Bret Hart made many wrestlers look good, but also seemed to like to look good himself, as his selling wasn't the greatest.
5 Ricky Steamboat: The Dragon was a mat great, and also a good high flyer. Those that doubt his ablity, rent an old N.W.A. wrestling tape with him and Flair, or WrestleMania III against Randy Savage. Steamboat was amazing, as he mixed the mat and high flying in together. Plus he was able to sell any injury, and attack made him look very strong with his comebacks.
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yah i neva felt HBK all dat much. He had charizma for sure. but in tha ring, i thought ALOT of other wrestlers had more ability then him. Tha thing is, its wrestlin...so tha WWF, or WCW, or whoeva tha organization is....is gonna make a STAR and CHAMPION out of who they want. So they pay attention to who tha fanz back...n turn them into sumthin great. Technically, no one could touch bret hart in tha ring tho. And i respected him more after that shit that happened wit Vince Mcmahon. Vince really fuked him ova. Jus like hes fukin up wrestlin IMO. I neva liked tha way "martial art" wrestlers could neva excel to tha upper level of wrestlers. they could alwayz be Intercontinetal champz, or whateva....but neva World Champ. Oh well lol
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In terms of Wrestling:
1. Jushin Liger
2. Great Sasuke
3. Shawn Michaels
4. Chris Benoit
5. Ultimo Dragon
In terms of Charisma/mic ability etc.
1. Rock
2. Stone Cold
3. Foley
4. Hogan
5. Michaels
Overall you've gotta give Michaels the nod for ALL ROUND abilities - but if you're looking for actual best in ring wrestler you've gotta look to Japan
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In terms of Wrestling:
1. Jushin Liger
2. Great Sasuke
3. Shawn Michaels
4. Chris Benoit
5. Ultimo Dragon
In terms of Charisma/mic ability etc.
1. Rock
2. Stone Cold
3. Foley
4. Hogan
5. Michaels
Overall you've gotta give Michaels the nod for ALL ROUND abilities - but if you're looking for actual best in ring wrestler you've gotta look to Japan
^^Jushin Liger WAS off tha fukin HOOOOOOK....
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He's the best ever, undoubtedly.
Most of you need to get some Japanese wrestling cause it's like 5,000 times better than US
But on the other hand if you like acting more than wrestling then the US is the best
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best=Bret
Worst: Sum 1 like Gillberg
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JUSHIN LIGER was sick, so was the great muta, back in his prime
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Best Wrestler: Chris Benoit (his matches are incredible. He brings the best out of almost all of his opponents)
Worst Wrestler: Ken Shamrock (I hated the bastard. His wrestling sucked, his gimmick sucked. I'm glad he's gone and I hope he never comes back)
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Tha GOAT hands down = Bret Hart
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Tha GOAT hands down = Bret Hart
preach on.........
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I can't believe this thread has been going for so long, and nobody has mentioned the Million Dollar Man..
you gotta give it to him.. not only did he have great stamina... he was a fucking great bad guy... with fucking great music..
"...everybody's got a price..... .....everybody's... gonna pay.... coz the million dollar man..... ALWAYS gets his way... MWAAHAHAHAHAHA...[money money money money moneeeeeeeeeey...."
haha.. fuckin' LOVE that shit
my all time favorite wrestler as a kid was always the Ultimate Warrier... he was so amped... i was also a big fan of Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorf
For technical wrestling, you can't really go past the skills of Mr. Perfect... at his prime when he was with the Genious... (another underrated wrestler)
Greg the Hammer Valentine didn't get the credit he deserved..
fuck.. i can go on and on with this shit..
Hillbilly Jim
Jake the Snake Roberts
Rugged Ronnie Garvin
Rowdy Roddy Piper !!
The Model Rick Martel (anyone remember when he sprayed jake the snake with his arrogance in the eye.. and blinded jake.. and they had that blindfold match !! in the 20 minutes the match went on.. there was 1 move... the DDT .. )
the Macho Man Randy Savage
Ravashing Rick Rude
here are my rankings..
Best Wrestler : Ultimate Warrior
Best Tag Team : The Rockers - Shawn Michaels and Marty Janetty
Best Event(s) : Survivor Series 3 and 5 (the real survivor series PPVs .. not this bullshit that's on nowdays.. when it used to be teams of 4 wrestlers fighting in rounds... Roddies Rowdies... Rude's Brood ! .. I remember when the million dollar man first brought in the undertaker as a mystery wrestler.. i shat myself.. scariest motherfucker i'd seen.. the crowd was shellshocked.. and when he systematically belted everyone on the opposing team... Koko B. Ware had some balls though !)
Worst Wrestler : Doink the Clown
Smelliest Wrestler : Dusty Rhodes ... tied with George the Animal Steele
Best Move : Heart Attack
Quickest Match : Hart Foundation vs Bolsheviks
Most Terrifying Attack : when Damien was biting Savage's arm
Greatest (and only) Commentators : Gorilla Monsoon and Jessy "the body" Ventura
i could go on and on.. but i'll leave it at that..
LONG LIVE THE OLD SCHOOL WWF WRESTLING..
as entertaining as the new stuff is.. the old stuff was 10 times better.
Peace.
Dominator.
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im still down wit old school wrestling. they dont rent them out nemore at the video store so its hard to see them. but the best wrestler is bret hart. the worst has to go to william regal. that guy can only punch wit brass knucks.
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Best- Bret Hart, he is the greatest ever , there will never be anyone better
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Best Wrestlers (Overall package, gimmick, mic skills, heel face ability, mat skills)
Has to be Ric Flair, made anyone look good, wrestled with anyone and everyone, made guys like Sting and Hart (First WWF title was won beatig Flair)
Also highley ranked
HBK
Bret Hart
Sting
Hogan
Crappiest wrestler - Big Bossman
And if your talking overall pure mat skills, guys like
Benoit
Malenko
Angle
Storm
Are the best
ECW had the best "wrestling" action compared to WWF and WCW's sports entertainment.
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If we're only talking about the US then WCW had the best wrestling 95 -96 -97 when the Cruiserweights were UNBELIEVABLY good and Benoit and co were putting it down.
ECW had some awesome matches, but never as consistently as that era of WCW when Nitro was on top. Guerrera vs Misterio and Psychosis vs Misterio in ECW in '95 - 96 were some of the best matches ever.
What ECW did bring was revolutionary storylines and (oh shit I just saw Nate Dogg on "One on One") hardcore action which breathed fresh air into the industry. The reality is by the time they got on PPV ECW had already had their best artistic moments.