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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Elano on August 13, 2008, 08:17:27 AM
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BEIJING – Pau Gasol sat courtside with his feet dunked in a bucket of ice as the irony of ironies unfolded around him.
The Los Angeles Lakers center had just finished training Wednesday at the Beijing Language and Culture University, where students from around the world gather to learn Mandarin and promote international understanding.
Four days into the most global of events, and surrounded by buildings which foster social harmony across all colors and creeds, Gasol had to apologize for the actions of a Spanish men’s basketball team that made Asian “slant eyes” at the camera for a sponsor’s advertisement and thinks it’s OK.
Around him, his teammates and coaches reacted to the criticism homing in on them from around the world with a mixture of embarrassment, confusion and some mild defiance. The ad in question was for a Spanish courier company, Seur, but the Spanish team also counts the athletic shoe and apparel company owned by Li Ning – the former Chinese Olympian who lit the torch at this summer’s Games – among its sponsors.
Jose Calderon of the Toronto Raptors has spent the last three years in North America, but he didn’t get it. He could still not understand how an action with such deep racial undertones had generated so much attention. In his mind a non-story became a story only when it was blown out of proportion by journalists with a mind for mischief.
“We did it because we thought it was going to be something nice, something with no problem,” Calderon told Yahoo! Sports. “But somebody wants to talk about it. It is too much of a big deal with you guys (the media) and everybody talking about that.”
Head coach Aíto García Reneses didn’t get it, either. Reneses comes from an older generation of Spanish society, one which has little time for the politically correct niceties of the modern world.
“If I go to play with a taller team and I put here (raising up on the tips of his toes) it is not an offense,” Reneses said. “I can’t understand anything more.”
But Gasol got it. He didn’t get it when the Spanish courier company persuaded the players to pose with their index fingers stretching their eyes to a thin slit at a team media day, but he sure as heck gets it now.
“Some of us didn’t feel comfortable doing it just because to me it was a little clownish for our part to be doing that,” Gasol said. “But the sponsors insisted and insisted. I think it is just a bad idea I guess to do that, but it was never intended to be offensive or racist against anybody.
“I didn’t find it very funny. I didn’t find it offensive, either. I guess some guys didn’t mind. To me I don’t want to be that way, I guess, to be doing that stuff.
“If anybody feels offended by it we totally apologize for it. We never meant anything offensive by it.”
The advertisement has regularly run as a full page in Spanish sports daily Marca soon after the picture was taken on July 1. However, it only came to prominence after it reached the attention of the Guardian newspaper in London this week.
Spanish sports is no stranger to racial controversy.
Luis Aragones, the head coach of Spain’s men’s soccer team, was overheard telling his player Jose Antonio Reyes to “tell that black (expletive) you are better than him” at a training session in 2004. Aragones was referring to Thierry Henry, a black player from France who was then a teammate of Reyes at English Premier League club Arsenal.
Aragones also struggled to understand what all the fuss was about, even as anti-racism groups seethed and soccer’s power brokers held their heads.
At a Formula One motor racing testing session this year, a group of Spanish fans believed to be supporting home driver Fernando Alonso were pictured with their faces covered with black paint. They wore T-shirts with the slogan “Hamilton’s Family,” a reference to Alonso’s world title rival Lewis Hamilton, a black Englishman.
Moreover, at an exhibition match in Madrid in 2004, several black members of the England men’s soccer team were subjected to monkey chants and whistles whenever they touched the ball.
Back in Spain, there has been no criticism of the advertisement, just support for a group of players who shoulders the hopes of a nation. Members of the Spanish media who spoke to Yahoo! Sports on Wednesday could not grasp why the issue had garnered so much publicity.
And while Gasol, in many ways the public face of Spain’s basketball team, sensed the photo was not a great idea, he refused to back down from his assertion that no harm was intended.
“If you put it in the wrong context and put it with the wrong people or a different kind of people, you could take it that way,” he said. “But not with our group and not with our people. I would find that a wrong read.”
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fags
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surley you wouldnt do the photo they did on the priciple that you wouldnt want it "precieved" the wrong way? surley someone said "hey should we really be doing this incase someone dosent see it as a joke"? plus spaniards are big time racists anyway, there always getting hammered by uefa for racist football chanting and only this year there was an uproar about lewis hamilton the f1 driver at the spanish grand prix.
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^^ i dont mean to pigeon hole spaniards by the way.
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spanish are classless
USA ALL THE WAY
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i hope usa beats em, they already won everything this year lol.
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Jose Calderon of the Toronto Raptors has spent the last three years in North America, but he didn’t get it. He could still not understand how an action with such deep racial undertones had generated so much attention. In his mind a non-story became a story only when it was blown out of proportion by journalists with a mind for mischief.
“We did it because we thought it was going to be something nice, something with no problem,” Calderon told Yahoo! Sports. “But somebody wants to talk about it. It is too much of a big deal with you guys (the media) and everybody talking about that.”
Wow
And wtf @ Gasol. Did this dude just seriously try to use peer pressure as an excuse?
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Jose Calderon of the Toronto Raptors has spent the last three years in North America, but he didn’t get it. He could still not understand how an action with such deep racial undertones had generated so much attention. In his mind a non-story became a story only when it was blown out of proportion by journalists with a mind for mischief.
“We did it because we thought it was going to be something nice, something with no problem,” Calderon told Yahoo! Sports. “But somebody wants to talk about it. It is too much of a big deal with you guys (the media) and everybody talking about that.”
Wow
And wtf @ Gasol. Did this dude just seriously try to use peer pressure as an excuse?
we all know Gasol is a bitch...dude would rat out his own mother
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^all your teams suck...here's the pic:
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^all your teams suck..
Wow.
3 out of 4 might suck. Green Bay Packers got to the NFC north championship. They're good.
Gasol still is a bitch
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I thought that it was tasteless and pretty ignorant of them as opposed to just being racist as the media is labeling it. I expected more out of Pau and Jose for playing in areas with a decent-sized Asian population. Marc & Navarro have lived in Memphis which isn't as diverse as Los Angeles or Toronto, but they should have known better as well.
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Is this pic really a problem for someone? I mean it's not like they are grabbing guns dressed like mafiosi to make fun of Italy. It's not like they are dressed like Nazi's to make fun of Germans. Shit is not that serious. The pic is funny, but nothing so wrong to make all this noise about it. It ain't racist, it's just them being stupid and having fun. I understand if someone in China gets hurted by it, but c'mon, it's just a pic.
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^all your teams suck..
Wow.
3 out of 4 might suck. Green Bay Packers got to the NFC north championship. They're good.
Gasol still is a bitch
If you were half the man Gasol is, you'd be twice the man you are now...
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^all your teams suck..
Wow.
3 out of 4 might suck. Green Bay Packers got to the NFC north championship. They're good.
Gasol still is a bitch
If you were half the man Gasol is, you'd be twice the man you are now...
He'd be half a racist
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
I guess you didn't watch Spain vs. China...don't blame you.
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
I guess you didn't watch Spain vs. China...don't blame you.
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Yao has always had problems with power forwards, Boozer in particular. No way Pau can guard Yao one on one.
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
I guess you didn't watch Spain vs. China...don't blame you.
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Yao has always had problems with power forwards, Boozer in particular. No way Pau can guard Yao one on one.
...no way can Yao guard Pau one-one-one.
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lmao off at gasol>yao
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Gasol is a nice complimentary player. Yao is a franchise center who attracts everyone's attention when he get's the ball in the low post, that is why he get's double and triple teamed every night. Or teams will just keep a guy in front and behind him at all times to deny him the ball.
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^all your teams suck..
Wow.
3 out of 4 might suck. Green Bay Packers got to the NFC north championship. They're good.
Gasol still is a bitch
If you were half the man Gasol is, you'd be twice the man you are now...
GASOL IS A BITCH! Hurt to hear that? :o
He's an alright basketball player.
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
I guess you didn't watch Spain vs. China...don't blame you.
you use 1 game as a measuring mark?? hahahahahahaha
yao's been playing better ball, more consistantly, the only time Gasol is better is when Yao is out
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^all your teams suck..
Wow.
3 out of 4 might suck. Green Bay Packers got to the NFC north championship. They're good.
Gasol still is a bitch
If you were half the man Gasol is, you'd be twice the man you are now...
GASOL IS A BITCH! Hurt to hear that? :o
He's an alright basketball player.
I'm just speakin the real, homie...Gasol is your daddy.
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
I guess you didn't watch Spain vs. China...don't blame you.
you use 1 game as a measuring mark?? hahahahahahaha
yao's been playing better ball, more consistantly, the only time Gasol is better is when Yao is out
what are you talking about? Gasol has been contributing much more to Spain than Yao has to China...
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why is everyone on mings dick all of the sudden? did y'all watch spain vs china
gasol>>>>>pinche ming
and that's if gasol was still playing for memphis.
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why is everyone on mings dick all of the sudden? did y'all watch spain vs china
gasol>>>>>pinche ming
and that's if gasol was still playing for memphis.
Try not to twist your ankle with all the bandwagon jumping you do.
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
I guess you didn't watch Spain vs. China...don't blame you.
you use 1 game as a measuring mark?? hahahahahahaha
yao's been playing better ball, more consistantly, the only time Gasol is better is when Yao is out
what are you talking about? Gasol has been contributing much more to Spain than Yao has to China...
Big men are hindered by Fiba rules, low post action takes place farther away than in the NBA. Yao had a pretty impressive stat line against Angola.
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
I guess you didn't watch Spain vs. China...don't blame you.
you use 1 game as a measuring mark?? hahahahahahaha
yao's been playing better ball, more consistantly, the only time Gasol is better is when Yao is out
what are you talking about? Gasol has been contributing much more to Spain than Yao has to China...
Big men are hindered by Fiba rules, low post action takes place farther away than in the NBA. Yao had a pretty impressive stat line against Angola.
Gasol IS a big man. LOL.
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
I guess you didn't watch Spain vs. China...don't blame you.
you use 1 game as a measuring mark?? hahahahahahaha
yao's been playing better ball, more consistantly, the only time Gasol is better is when Yao is out
what are you talking about? Gasol has been contributing much more to Spain than Yao has to China...
Big men are hindered by Fiba rules, low post action takes place farther away than in the NBA. Yao had a pretty impressive stat line against Angola.
Gasol IS a big man. LOL.
He's softer than charmin and plays face up more often than not.
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^Gasol>Yao :-*
Put down the pipe.
but
I guess you didn't watch Spain vs. China...don't blame you.
you use 1 game as a measuring mark?? hahahahahahaha
yao's been playing better ball, more consistantly, the only time Gasol is better is when Yao is out
what are you talking about? Gasol has been contributing much more to Spain than Yao has to China...
Big men are hindered by Fiba rules, low post action takes place farther away than in the NBA. Yao had a pretty impressive stat line against Angola.
Gasol IS a big man. LOL.
He's softer than charmin and plays face up more often than not.
He's soft as a center in the west, yes...but by no means is he a soft overall player.