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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 18, 2008, 11:47:39 AM
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NBA: The Top-10 Centers in 2008-2009 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/58640-nba-the-top-10-centers-in-2008-2009)
10. Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Cavaliers)
Ilgauskas has been one of the most consistent big men in the league over the last few years and he will continue to be in 2008-09. He is a solid scorer, averaging around 14 points per game, and he also averages nine rebounds and a couple of assists and blocks while shooting good percentages from the field and from the free-throw line.
9. Emeka Okafor (Bobcats)
While Okafor is injury prone, he is a very good big man on both ends of the court. He is solid offensively at around 14 ppg and is an excellent rebounder to boot (11rpg). He is also very good defensively both in the post and as a help defender who blocks a lot of shots.
8. Tyson Chandler (Hornets)
Chandler is a beast on both ends of the court. Offensively, he is too athletic and quick for most centers to guard, as he consistently scores on alley-oops in transition. He is also the best offensive rebounder in the league and is a very good defensive player; he is the anchor of a very good Hornet defense. He also has a lot of room to improve as he is only 25 years old.
7. Andrew Bogut (Bucks)
Bogut will never become a better player than Deron Williams or Chris Paul, but he is still a very solid center. He is a good scorer at around 15 points per game, a solid rebounder at nine rebounds per game, and an excellent passer in the post, as he averages around three assists per game. He is also a solid defensive player who averages two blocks a game and he is efficient from the field, where he shoots 51%. However, he still needs to improve his overall offensive game and his free-throw shooting, which is pathetic at 59%.
6. Al Horford (Hawks)
Horford is a very good all around player at both ends of the floor. He is developing his offense game and should average 15 points a game; he is already a very good rebounder at 10 rebounds per game and he is a good defensive player who averages around a block and a steal per game. He is also a solid passer and is very efficient from the field and from the free throw line. He also still has a lot or room to grow as he is only entering his second season.
5. Greg Oden (Blazers)
If he is healthy, Oden will be a complete animal on both ends of the floor. He will average around 12 points and 10-11 rebounds a game and should become the anchor of a good young defense in Portland. He will shoot around 53-54% from the field and 69-70% from the free-throw line and will average about 2.5 blocks per game while also being a very good one-on-one defender in the post.
4. Al Jefferson (Timberwolves)
Jefferson is one of the few players who is a lock to average 20 points and 10 rebounds. He is also excellent from the field and solid from the free-throw line. He is also arguably the best post player in the league as he has a dominant right hand. However, the reason he is this low is because he is a below-average defensive player, especially in one-on-one.
3. Yao Ming (Rockets)
If Yao wasn't extremely injury prone, he would be a no doubt pick for No. 1 on this list. However, he isn't and that has cost him and his team a lot over the past few years, especially in the playoffs. When healthy, he is the only center who will average 25 points and 10 rebounds per game.
He will also average over two blocks and about 2.5 assists while shooting well over 50% from the field and an amazing 85% from the free throw line. However, it seems that each season he misses around 20-25 games and most of the time he is injured towards the end of the regular season or in the playoffs, which is when it matters most.
2. Andrew Bynum (The Los Angeles Lakers)
Before he was hurt, he was becoming the Dwight Howard of the West. He is huge, strong and athletic. He is also only 20 years old and has lots of room for improvement. This season, while playing alongside Pau Gasol, Bynum should average around 16-17 points along with about 12 rebounds, over two assists, and 2.5 blocks per game.
He will also be a defensive force in the middle both as a help defender and as a one-on-one defender. He is unbelievably efficient from the field (63%) and is very solid from the free-throw line as a center at 69%. He is a the future of the Lakers and one of the future superstars in the league.
1. Dwight Howard (Magic)
Howard is simply the modern-day version of Wilt Chamberlein. He is a complete beast inside and no one can guard him one-on-one. He will average about 22-23 points, over 15 rebounds and about 2.5 blocks per game while being a defensive force. He is also extremely good from the field at around 60% and he still has lot of room to improve as he is just entering his fifth season out of high school.
However, he desperately needs to improve his free-throw shooting (59% at 11 attempts per game) and his turnovers, as he averaged 3.2 per game last season. He still is going to become one of the greatest centers ever and will be the face of the league over the next decade along with Kobe and LeBron, as he will be the main dominant big man along with Bynum and Oden.
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"Howard is simply the modern-day version of Wilt Chamberlein. He is a complete beast inside and no one can guard him one-on-one."
LOL
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LMFAO at Bynum over Yao, Jefferson, JO & Emeka
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^^^Well it is a "most improved" list. I think its kind of dumb for them to have Oden on there. What are they using as the base line to measure his improvement against. Better yet, how are they even making the assertion that he has improved? I guess being ready to play could be considered an improvement, but still...lol
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the fact is, the way the NBA is currently played, the PG is more important than the C
theres so many "good" power forwards nowadays that talented "true" centers are becoming a rarity
bynum has proven nothing to make me think he's better than Yao Ming. that's a joke.
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LMFAO at Bynum over Yao, Jefferson, JO & Emeka
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Did you just say "LMFAO at Bynum over JO and Okafor?"... :stupid: :stupid: :puke: :stupid: :stupid:
i hate you
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^^^Well it is a "most improved" list. I think its kind of dumb for them to have Oden on there. What are they using as the base line to measure his improvement against. Better yet, how are they even making the assertion that he has improved? I guess being ready to play could be considered an improvement, but still...lol
its a top 10 center list, not a "most improved list"
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Before you guys get too involved in arguing this list lol. A little bit about Bleacher Report. Its a site for people to post of their own opinions. It isnt for sports analysts or professionals.
This is from Bleacher Reports description of itself.
-"You won't find "unbiased" coverage at Bleacher Report- and that's the point. Every contribution bears the stamp of it's writer's personal convictions."
Heres a little bit about the writer of this "list" (Marcel Mansour) lol.
"My name is Marcel and I am 15 years old. I am a die hard Laker and Dodger fan."
"Today my favorite athletes are Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, etc"
Cmon NIK lol
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the writer of this Mock top 10 projected centers list must've just had his NOSE ON A LINE
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the writer of this Mock top 10 projected centers list must've just had his NOSE ON A LINE
read above^^^
he's a 15 yr old Laker fan.
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^^^Well it is a "most improved" list. I think its kind of dumb for them to have Oden on there. What are they using as the base line to measure his improvement against. Better yet, how are they even making the assertion that he has improved? I guess being ready to play could be considered an improvement, but still...lol
its a top 10 center list, not a "most improved list"
oh, I misread the title. In that case, yeah, this is a fuckin horrible list.
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Before you guys get too involved in arguing this list lol. A little bit about Bleacher Report. Its a site for people to post of their own opinions. It isnt for sports analysts or professionals.
This is from Bleacher Reports description of itself.
-"You won't find "unbiased" coverage at Bleacher Report- and that's the point. Every contribution bears the stamp of it's writer's personal convictions."
Heres a little bit about the writer of this "list" (Marcel Mansour) lol.
"My name is Marcel and I am 15 years old. I am a die hard Laker and Dodger fan."
"Today my favorite athletes are Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, etc"
Cmon NIK lol
LMFAO!!!
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lol absolute foolishness
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the fact is, the way the NBA is currently played, the PG is more important than the C
i dont know bout that...look at ALL the teams who have won the finals recently...
Celtics - KG
Spurs - Duncan
Heat- Shaq
Lakers - Shaq
the Pistons are the only team without a dominate big man like those mentioned above...but they had an amazing solid 5, with great chemistry.
but i agree with you on your other statement...Yao>Bynum.
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LMFAO at Bynum over Yao, Jefferson, JO & Emeka
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Did you just say "LMFAO at Bynum over JO and Okafor?"... :stupid: :stupid: :puke: :stupid: :stupid:
i hate you
Lmao
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obviously Yao is better than Bynum LOL, thats the same thing as saying Kobe Bryant is better than Jamal Crawford, its no comparison obviously
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Before you guys get too involved in arguing this list lol. A little bit about Bleacher Report. Its a site for people to post of their own opinions. It isnt for sports analysts or professionals.
This is from Bleacher Reports description of itself.
-"You won't find "unbiased" coverage at Bleacher Report- and that's the point. Every contribution bears the stamp of it's writer's personal convictions."
Heres a little bit about the writer of this "list" (Marcel Mansour) lol.
"My name is Marcel and I am 15 years old. I am a die hard Laker and Dodger fan."
"Today my favorite athletes are Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, etc"
Cmon NIK lol
LMFAO!!!
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not THAT funny...Bynum is still a top 3 according to sportsline. and no way id trade Bynum for Yao.
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not THAT funny...Bynum is still a top 3 according to sportsline. and no way id trade Bynum for Yao.
which is why you have no future in the nba as a gm. statements like that are why people say you dont know what the fuck you're talking about.
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not THAT funny...Bynum is still a top 3 according to sportsline. and no way id trade Bynum for Yao.
which is why you have no future in the nba as a gm. statements like that are why people say you dont know what the fuck you're talking about.
sorry, but Bynum's ceiling is much higher than Yao's...If you've followed Bynum, you'd know this. would you trade Oden for Yao?
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not THAT funny...Bynum is still a top 3 according to sportsline. and no way id trade Bynum for Yao.
u got pwned
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not THAT funny...Bynum is still a top 3 according to sportsline. and no way id trade Bynum for Yao.
which is why you have no future in the nba as a gm. statements like that are why people say you dont know what the fuck you're talking about.
sorry, but Bynum's ceiling is much higher than Yao's...If you've followed Bynum, you'd know this. would you trade Oden for Yao?
so Bynums going to be a 25-10 guy??
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http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/kCp8cTYjcaQ
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..... why don't they wait untill next season is over and bynum and oden got a full season to proof themselves. It's ridiculous to put Oden so high when he never played 1 second in the NBA.
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lol @ the video look at how much hangtime KG got compared to Bynum
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..... why don't they wait untill next season is over and bynum and oden got a full season to proof themselves. It's ridiculous to put Oden so high when he never played 1 second in the NBA.
ridiculous as say, for instance, Bynum at #2?
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lol @ the video look at how much hangtime KG got compared to Bynum
yeah bynum got owned
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lol @ the video look at how much hangtime KG got compared to Bynum
yeah bynum got owned
Yeah it reminds of the Time Bynum Destroyed your Boy Jermaine O'neal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdtS_sE4Ig&feature=related
Bynum: 6-6 FG's - 17 PTS- 10 REB - 4 BLK
Jermaine O'neal: 4-13 FG's - 14 PTS - 3 REB ( 0 Defensive REB) 0 BLK :laugh:
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lol @ the video look at how much hangtime KG got compared to Bynum
yeah bynum got owned
Yeah it reminds of the Time Bynum Destroyed your Boy Jermaine O'neal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdtS_sE4Ig&feature=related
Bynum: 6-6 FG's - 17 PTS- 10 REB - 4 BLK
Jermaine O'neal: 4-13 FG's - 14 PTS - 3 REB ( 0 Defensive REB) 0 BLK :laugh:
:o
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^^one game guys. Maybe some day Bynum will be a 6 time All Star in this league, I highly doubt it though
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at least if you want to post a proof KG owned Bynum , post a video without an offensive foul ...
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I have two videos for you haters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/M1L9y2HifSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/BUbzE5920So
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at least if you want to post a proof KG owned Bynum , post a video without an offensive foul ...
want a bottle and pacifyer?
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LOL@the haters. Bynum=next great center.
http://www.youtube.com/v/dY6B3sdAbV0
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Bynum=next great center.
:stupid:
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lol
bynums a china doll
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keep bangin your head on the wall, lil breezy
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
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LOL@the haters. Bynum=next great center.
http://www.youtube.com/v/dY6B3sdAbV0
LOL@the homers. Bynum=next slightly above average center.
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LOL@the homers. Bynum=next slightly above average center.
Sometimes i think some of you guys posts dumb shit on purpose, for the only reason to piss somebody off. You don't really think that stupid bullshit you just wrote, do you? Bynum was already playing like a monster last season, before he got injured. He averaged 14.6 ppg and 10.7 rebounds in his 25 games as a starter. Plus 2.3 blocks per game. Find me a Center in the West who averaged better stats than him last season, except for Yao Ming, and your Lamarcus dude (but he's more a PF). You won't find one. So he is ALREADY a dominant Center in the West, and he's still 21 years old with a lot of room to improve. I understand you're a Blazer fan, and you might like to make fun of our players, but let's be real: Bynum got game.
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Bynum=next slightly above average center.
:puke:
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
watch the video...i cant wait till the lakers face the spurs next season.
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Bynum's numbers in January, before he got injured.
17.3 ppg
12.2 rpg
2.7 apg
2.3 bpg
.700 FG%
.741 FT%
If he returns the way he left, Lakers are unstoppable, and Bynum has a chance to get the M.I.P. award and to make it to the All-Star. No joke. Those numbers are scaring. And he averaged them in less than 30 minutes per game.
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LOL@the homers. Bynum=next slightly above average center.
Sometimes i think some of you guys posts dumb shit on purpose, for the only reason to piss somebody off. You don't really think that stupid bullshit you just wrote, do you? Bynum was already playing like a monster last season, before he got injured. He averaged 14.6 ppg and 10.7 rebounds in his 25 games as a starter. Plus 2.3 blocks per game. Find me a Center in the West who averaged better stats than him last season, except for Yao Ming, and your Lamarcus dude (but he's more a PF). You won't find one. So he is ALREADY a dominant Center in the West, and he's still 21 years old with a lot of room to improve. I understand you're a Blazer fan, and you might like to make fun of our players, but let's be real: Bynum got game.
my statement was no more outlandish than the statement I quoted. Look, I'm sure everybody thinks Bynum will be good, but chances are he'll be pretty far from great. You guys would have us believe that he's the 2nd coming of Shaq. He showed flashes last season but to be perfectly honest, that was too small a sample to conclusively say much one way or the other. Nearly 15 and 11 over 25 games is nothing to scoff at but it doesn't mean much. Like I've stated before, there was a 25 game stretch last season where Aldridge averaged around 27 and 12 but it doesn't mean he's the next Tim Duncan. See my point?
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
watch the video...i cant wait till the lakers face the spurs next season.
Kobe never lets me down. Another season with no Shaq-less title. Maybe in 2010 when he's a free agent, he'll go to a championship team with a dominant big man..........Spurs? ;)
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
watch the video...i cant wait till the lakers face the spurs next season.
Kobe never lets me down. Another season with no Shaq-less title. Maybe in 2010 when he's a free agent, he'll go to a championship team with a dominant big man..........Spurs? ;)
He is a free agent after this season which coincidentally coincides with the time when Portland will have max money to throw around the league (even if Miles plays in 10 games and goes back on the books).
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Bynum's numbers in January, before he got injured.
17.3 ppg
12.2 rpg
2.7 apg
2.3 bpg
.700 FG%
.741 FT%
If he returns the way he left, Lakers are unstoppable, and Bynum has a chance to get the M.I.P. award and to make it to the All-Star. No joke. Those numbers are scaring. And he averaged them in less than 30 minutes per game.
stats can be used to manipulate anything
is the NBA a 1 month season? no. thats taking the best case scenerio. how will he blend in with Euroboy?
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i love how ya'll live off bynum beating oneal 1 game
stockton shut down MJ once, i mean even blocking him....look how things turned out in the finals
1 game ain't shit
now, 6 games, and a 131-92 ass whooping, THATS SOMETHING ;)
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
watch the video...i cant wait till the lakers face the spurs next season.
Kobe never lets me down. Another season with no Shaq-less title. Maybe in 2010 when he's a free agent, he'll go to a championship team with a dominant big man..........Spurs? ;)
He is a free agent after this season which coincidentally coincides with the time when Portland will have max money to throw around the league (even if Miles plays in 10 games and goes back on the books).
yall can both keep dreaming
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
watch the video...i cant wait till the lakers face the spurs next season.
Kobe never lets me down. Another season with no Shaq-less title. Maybe in 2010 when he's a free agent, he'll go to a championship team with a dominant big man..........Spurs? ;)
He is a free agent after this season which coincidentally coincides with the time when Portland will have max money to throw around the league (even if Miles plays in 10 games and goes back on the books).
You bitch. I made a thread about this months ago and you ridiculed me. :grumpy:
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LOL@the homers. Bynum=next slightly above average center.
Sometimes i think some of you guys posts dumb shit on purpose, for the only reason to piss somebody off. You don't really think that stupid bullshit you just wrote, do you? Bynum was already playing like a monster last season, before he got injured. He averaged 14.6 ppg and 10.7 rebounds in his 25 games as a starter. Plus 2.3 blocks per game. Find me a Center in the West who averaged better stats than him last season, except for Yao Ming, and your Lamarcus dude (but he's more a PF). You won't find one. So he is ALREADY a dominant Center in the West, and he's still 21 years old with a lot of room to improve. I understand you're a Blazer fan, and you might like to make fun of our players, but let's be real: Bynum got game.
my statement was no more outlandish than the statement I quoted. Look, I'm sure everybody thinks Bynum will be good, but chances are he'll be pretty far from great. You guys would have us believe that he's the 2nd coming of Shaq. He showed flashes last season but to be perfectly honest, that was too small a sample to conclusively say much one way or the other. Nearly 15 and 11 over 25 games is nothing to scoff at but it doesn't mean much. Like I've stated before, there was a 25 game stretch last season where Aldridge averaged around 27 and 12 but it doesn't mean he's the next Tim Duncan. See my point?
Mine is that you can't say he's gonna be a slightly above average center, cause he already is the 2nd best C in the Western Conference, and he's still 21.
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Bynum's numbers in January, before he got injured.
17.3 ppg
12.2 rpg
2.7 apg
2.3 bpg
.700 FG%
.741 FT%
If he returns the way he left, Lakers are unstoppable, and Bynum has a chance to get the M.I.P. award and to make it to the All-Star. No joke. Those numbers are scaring. And he averaged them in less than 30 minutes per game.
stats can be used to manipulate anything
is the NBA a 1 month season? no. thats taking the best case scenerio. how will he blend in with Euroboy?
Who cares about his personal stats. Lakers will them both on the floor, that's what i care.
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
watch the video...i cant wait till the lakers face the spurs next season.
Kobe never lets me down. Another season with no Shaq-less title. Maybe in 2010 when he's a free agent, he'll go to a championship team with a dominant big man..........Spurs? ;)
He is a free agent after this season which coincidentally coincides with the time when Portland will have max money to throw around the league (even if Miles plays in 10 games and goes back on the books).
You bitch. I made a thread about this months ago and you ridiculed me. :grumpy:
He's just writing that to make Laker fans mad at him. Nothing serious, obviously. Kobe is not going to a non-playoff team, LOL.
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
watch the video...i cant wait till the lakers face the spurs next season.
Kobe never lets me down. Another season with no Shaq-less title. Maybe in 2010 when he's a free agent, he'll go to a championship team with a dominant big man..........Spurs? ;)
He is a free agent after this season which coincidentally coincides with the time when Portland will have max money to throw around the league (even if Miles plays in 10 games and goes back on the books).
yall can both keep dreaming
dreaming? lol Naw. I dont even really want him on the Spurs. He's too disruptive to a teams chemistry. Id rather have a superstar that is able to coexist with another superstar and be part of a team, to win. Not someone who wants the spotlight before they want a championship. BUT, it would be funny to watch Kobe on another team then the Lakers. Just to watch you hang from his nuts no matter where he goes. ;D
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dreaming? lol Naw. I dont even really want him on the Spurs. He's too disruptive to a teams chemistry. Id rather have a superstar that is able to coexist with another superstar and be part of a team, to win. Not someone who wants the spotlight before they want a championship. BUT, it would be funny to watch Kobe on another team then the Lakers. Just to watch you hang from his nuts no matter where he goes. ;D
Let me remind you a few things: 1) Kobe Bryant is the 2007/08 NBA MVP; 2) the Lakers eliminated the Spurs last year, without Bynum and Ariza. 3) Kobe played so good with Gasol as a co-star that the Lakers reached the NBA Finals. They didn't win, but you're talking about the MVP and the 2nd best team of the past season. So show them some respect. Your team is worst than the Lakers, and your stars were outplayed by the guys in purple&gold badly, last year. You betta focus on who your team needs to acquire in order to beat us, and not viceversa.
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
watch the video...i cant wait till the lakers face the spurs next season.
Kobe never lets me down. Another season with no Shaq-less title. Maybe in 2010 when he's a free agent, he'll go to a championship team with a dominant big man..........Spurs? ;)
He is a free agent after this season which coincidentally coincides with the time when Portland will have max money to throw around the league (even if Miles plays in 10 games and goes back on the books).
yall can both keep dreaming
not dreaming at all. we don't even need him. He'd be a luxury to have but we have the vast majority of our future title team in place already.
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lol
bynums a china doll
naw, he reminds of this retarded dude that used to try and play ball with us when i was a kid. "Big Wave Dave". All uncoordinated and awkward on the court.
watch the video...i cant wait till the lakers face the spurs next season.
Kobe never lets me down. Another season with no Shaq-less title. Maybe in 2010 when he's a free agent, he'll go to a championship team with a dominant big man..........Spurs? ;)
He is a free agent after this season which coincidentally coincides with the time when Portland will have max money to throw around the league (even if Miles plays in 10 games and goes back on the books).
You bitch. I made a thread about this months ago and you ridiculed me. :grumpy:
lol my apologies if I ridiculed you, kind sir. I still doubt it would ever happen, though.
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LOL@the homers. Bynum=next slightly above average center.
Sometimes i think some of you guys posts dumb shit on purpose, for the only reason to piss somebody off. You don't really think that stupid bullshit you just wrote, do you? Bynum was already playing like a monster last season, before he got injured. He averaged 14.6 ppg and 10.7 rebounds in his 25 games as a starter. Plus 2.3 blocks per game. Find me a Center in the West who averaged better stats than him last season, except for Yao Ming, and your Lamarcus dude (but he's more a PF). You won't find one. So he is ALREADY a dominant Center in the West, and he's still 21 years old with a lot of room to improve. I understand you're a Blazer fan, and you might like to make fun of our players, but let's be real: Bynum got game.
my statement was no more outlandish than the statement I quoted. Look, I'm sure everybody thinks Bynum will be good, but chances are he'll be pretty far from great. You guys would have us believe that he's the 2nd coming of Shaq. He showed flashes last season but to be perfectly honest, that was too small a sample to conclusively say much one way or the other. Nearly 15 and 11 over 25 games is nothing to scoff at but it doesn't mean much. Like I've stated before, there was a 25 game stretch last season where Aldridge averaged around 27 and 12 but it doesn't mean he's the next Tim Duncan. See my point?
Mine is that you can't say he's gonna be a slightly above average center, cause he already is the 2nd best C in the Western Conference, and he's still 21.
LOL 2nd best? Says who? Fuckin Sportsline??? Calling him 2nd best in the West is a little premature at this point, don't you think? lol, take the homer goggles off, homey. I know you're excited and all but come on now. I'd argue that Yao, Camby, Al Jefferson, and an obscure fringe player known as Tim Duncan are all Western centers better than Bynum. That would put him squarely at 5th best center.And of course there's the question of just how good Oden can be (if he pans out better than Bynum that puts Bynum at 6th)...looking forward to the 28th! Should be a fun game to watch.
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LOL@the homers. Bynum=next slightly above average center.
Sometimes i think some of you guys posts dumb shit on purpose, for the only reason to piss somebody off. You don't really think that stupid bullshit you just wrote, do you? Bynum was already playing like a monster last season, before he got injured. He averaged 14.6 ppg and 10.7 rebounds in his 25 games as a starter. Plus 2.3 blocks per game. Find me a Center in the West who averaged better stats than him last season, except for Yao Ming, and your Lamarcus dude (but he's more a PF). You won't find one. So he is ALREADY a dominant Center in the West, and he's still 21 years old with a lot of room to improve. I understand you're a Blazer fan, and you might like to make fun of our players, but let's be real: Bynum got game.
my statement was no more outlandish than the statement I quoted. Look, I'm sure everybody thinks Bynum will be good, but chances are he'll be pretty far from great. You guys would have us believe that he's the 2nd coming of Shaq. He showed flashes last season but to be perfectly honest, that was too small a sample to conclusively say much one way or the other. Nearly 15 and 11 over 25 games is nothing to scoff at but it doesn't mean much. Like I've stated before, there was a 25 game stretch last season where Aldridge averaged around 27 and 12 but it doesn't mean he's the next Tim Duncan. See my point?
Mine is that you can't say he's gonna be a slightly above average center, cause he already is the 2nd best C in the Western Conference, and he's still 21.
exactly...saying hes gunna be a great big is way more legit than saying hes gunna be slightly above average. only a pathetic hater wouldnt realize this.
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I dont even really want him on the Spurs. He's too disruptive to a teams chemistry. Id rather have a superstar that is able to coexist with another superstar and be part of a team, to win. Not someone who wants the spotlight before they want a championship.
LOL...you're an idiot.
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LOL@the homers. Bynum=next slightly above average center.
Sometimes i think some of you guys posts dumb shit on purpose, for the only reason to piss somebody off. You don't really think that stupid bullshit you just wrote, do you? Bynum was already playing like a monster last season, before he got injured. He averaged 14.6 ppg and 10.7 rebounds in his 25 games as a starter. Plus 2.3 blocks per game. Find me a Center in the West who averaged better stats than him last season, except for Yao Ming, and your Lamarcus dude (but he's more a PF). You won't find one. So he is ALREADY a dominant Center in the West, and he's still 21 years old with a lot of room to improve. I understand you're a Blazer fan, and you might like to make fun of our players, but let's be real: Bynum got game.
my statement was no more outlandish than the statement I quoted. Look, I'm sure everybody thinks Bynum will be good, but chances are he'll be pretty far from great. You guys would have us believe that he's the 2nd coming of Shaq. He showed flashes last season but to be perfectly honest, that was too small a sample to conclusively say much one way or the other. Nearly 15 and 11 over 25 games is nothing to scoff at but it doesn't mean much. Like I've stated before, there was a 25 game stretch last season where Aldridge averaged around 27 and 12 but it doesn't mean he's the next Tim Duncan. See my point?
Mine is that you can't say he's gonna be a slightly above average center, cause he already is the 2nd best C in the Western Conference, and he's still 21.
exactly...saying hes gunna be a great big is way more legit than saying hes gunna be slightly above average. only a pathetic hater wouldnt realize this.
LOL ok, so saying he's probably going to be good but let's wait and see before we start calling him "the next great center" is a hater statement to you? In that Case Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater! see how that works?
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LOL@the homers. Bynum=next slightly above average center.
Sometimes i think some of you guys posts dumb shit on purpose, for the only reason to piss somebody off. You don't really think that stupid bullshit you just wrote, do you? Bynum was already playing like a monster last season, before he got injured. He averaged 14.6 ppg and 10.7 rebounds in his 25 games as a starter. Plus 2.3 blocks per game. Find me a Center in the West who averaged better stats than him last season, except for Yao Ming, and your Lamarcus dude (but he's more a PF). You won't find one. So he is ALREADY a dominant Center in the West, and he's still 21 years old with a lot of room to improve. I understand you're a Blazer fan, and you might like to make fun of our players, but let's be real: Bynum got game.
my statement was no more outlandish than the statement I quoted. Look, I'm sure everybody thinks Bynum will be good, but chances are he'll be pretty far from great. You guys would have us believe that he's the 2nd coming of Shaq. He showed flashes last season but to be perfectly honest, that was too small a sample to conclusively say much one way or the other. Nearly 15 and 11 over 25 games is nothing to scoff at but it doesn't mean much. Like I've stated before, there was a 25 game stretch last season where Aldridge averaged around 27 and 12 but it doesn't mean he's the next Tim Duncan. See my point?
Mine is that you can't say he's gonna be a slightly above average center, cause he already is the 2nd best C in the Western Conference, and he's still 21.
exactly...saying hes gunna be a great big is way more legit than saying hes gunna be slightly above average. only a pathetic hater wouldnt realize this.
LOL ok, so saying he's probably going to be good but let's wait and see before we start calling him "the next great center" is a hater statement to you? In that Case Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater! see how that works?
you don't have to believe that he's the next great center, but to act like that statement is absurd is actually absurd all on its own...and to make the claims you've been making just makes you look retarded. LOL. even in your last post you just said "he's probably going to be good". :D
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Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater!
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Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater!
i agree.
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Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater!
I don't know him. :)
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Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater!
i agree.
lol what the hell?
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We will see. There are 3-4 guys who have big chances to be the best Centers in the next 10 years. Bynum is one of those guys. Oden is probably another one.
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Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater!
i agree.
lol what the hell?
LOL...so now you realize how dumb I woulda sounded if i were serious. point proven.
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Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater!
i agree.
lol what the hell?
LOL...so now you realize how dumb I woulda sounded if i were serious. point proven.
no, thats not it. It would have been the only time in your life you ever made a non homer statement about basketball and it caught me totally off guard. Oden>Bynum 9 days a week.
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Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater!
i agree.
lol what the hell?
LOL...so now you realize how dumb I woulda sounded if i were serious. point proven.
no, thats not it. It would have been the only time in your life you ever made a non homer statement about basketball and it caught me totally off guard. Oden>Bynum 9 days a week.
LOL@thinking "Oden is obviously the best big in the league" is a legit statement when he hasnt even played a game yet. shoot yourself in the head.
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dreaming? lol Naw. I dont even really want him on the Spurs. He's too disruptive to a teams chemistry. Id rather have a superstar that is able to coexist with another superstar and be part of a team, to win. Not someone who wants the spotlight before they want a championship. BUT, it would be funny to watch Kobe on another team then the Lakers. Just to watch you hang from his nuts no matter where he goes. ;D
Let me remind you a few things: 1) Kobe Bryant is the 2007/08 NBA MVP; 2) the Lakers eliminated the Spurs last year, without Bynum and Ariza. 3) Kobe played so good with Gasol as a co-star that the Lakers reached the NBA Finals. They didn't win, but you're talking about the MVP and the 2nd best team of the past season. So show them some respect. Your team is worst than the Lakers, and your stars were outplayed by the guys in purple&gold badly, last year. You betta focus on who your team needs to acquire in order to beat us, and not viceversa.
lol
NIK has acted like the Lakers were the team to beat for the last 6 yrs....no matter how far away they were from a championship quality team. Duncan was MVP, AND NBA Champion, AND Finals MVP. Were you bowing down to us? Sorry if Im not impressed with the Lakers getting runner up.
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Oden is obviously the best big in the league and if you say different you're just a pathetic hater!
i agree.
lol what the hell?
LOL...so now you realize how dumb I woulda sounded if i were serious. point proven.
no, thats not it. It would have been the only time in your life you ever made a non homer statement about basketball and it caught me totally off guard. Oden>Bynum 9 days a week.
LOL@thinking "Oden is obviously the best big in the league" is a legit statement when he hasnt even played a game yet. shoot yourself in the head.
Its every bit as valid as saying the same for Bynum.
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^I never said that, though.
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you've said you'd rather ahve Bynum over Howard
which is just SILLY
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^I never said that, though.
Saying you would take Bynum over Howard is effectively saying you think he's the best big in the league.
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There's a probablity that Bynum will be better than Howard in 2-3 years , Howard is overrated anyways , he's 100% physical power( the pb he's not powerful as Shaq was) no back to the basket moves .... he proved how he sucks in a game which requires skills (read FIBA)...
A very good player but not a franchise player ala LBJ , Paul as the medias say ..
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^I never said that, though.
Saying you would take Bynum over Howard is effectively saying you think he's the best big in the league.
If it was not for his recurrent injuries, I'd take Yao over Howard .... even if everybody do not agree, I think there is a stretch to say that Howard is clearly better than Ming
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^There are no Ifs in life.. Yao IS an injury prone fuck, that will never change... I also love how people discredit physical beasts and act like it's all about "skills"... Dirk = best PF in the game? ::)
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^There are no Ifs in life.. Yao IS an injury prone fuck, that will never change... I also love how people discredit physical beasts and act like it's all about "skills"... Dirk = best PF in the game? ::)
Its all hyprocisy man. Remember, Laker fans werent discounting physical beasts who didnt have a ton of skill when Shaq was a Laker. Now that he isnt...
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^There are no Ifs in life.. Yao IS an injury prone fuck, that will never change... I also love how people discredit physical beasts and act like it's all about "skills"... Dirk = best PF in the game? ::)
82 games by dwight > 52 games by yao
but 52 games of Yao > 52 games of dwight > 100000 games of Bynum
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LOL I did not discredit Howard , he's a physical beast , great for him , what I'm saying is if he wants to get to the next level , he has to develop some moves ... you got to stop thinking every Lakers fan hate others players and others teams .. I do prefer watching Hakeem Olajuwon than Shaq or Howard but at the end of the day , the result matters and Shaq brought 3 titles to L.A.. Never been a huge fan , never been a hater regardless the team he played for ..
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The people talkin shit about Bynum don't know the first thing about him...
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The people talkin shit about Bynum don't know the first thing about him...
Saying he's not as good as a few Laker fans keep saying he is is not nearly the same as talking shit. That said, he looks like he's in great shape thanks to all the steroids.
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The people talkin shit about Bynum don't know the first thing about him...
you say this about every single Laker that you try to build up as the next best thing. lol. We're still waiting for one of your predictions to come true. Im sure when one does, and your 1 for 50....youll say "i told u so" :loser:
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he predicted the lakers would beat the celtics
he predicted the pistons would beat the celtics
he predicted the rams to play the texans in the SB
he's havin a bad year ;)
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The people talkin shit about Bynum don't know the first thing about him...
you say this about every single Laker that you try to build up as the next best thing. lol. We're still waiting for one of your predictions to come true. Im sure when one does, and your 1 for 50....youll say "i told u so" :loser:
so wait a minute, are you saying that Trevor Ariza is not the guy who is gonna put LA over the top?
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The people talkin shit about Bynum don't know the first thing about him...
you say this about every single Laker that you try to build up as the next best thing. lol. We're still waiting for one of your predictions to come true. Im sure when one does, and your 1 for 50....youll say "i told u so" :loser:
so wait a minute, are you saying that Trevor Ariza is not the guy who is gonna put LA over the top?
OH SNAP
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The people talkin shit about Bynum don't know the first thing about him...
you say this about every single Laker that you try to build up as the next best thing. lol. We're still waiting for one of your predictions to come true. Im sure when one does, and your 1 for 50....youll say "i told u so" :loser:
LOL...MOST of my predictions come true...i was the only one to say that we shouldnt trade Bynum way before he showed signs of beasting. you act like i say shit like "Coby Karl will be better than Larry Bird", when in reality, all my claims are backed by evidence and rationality.
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he predicted the lakers would beat the celtics
he predicted the pistons would beat the celtics
he predicted the rams to play the texans in the SB
he's havin a bad year ;)
LOL...most analysts predicted the Lakers and Pistons would beat the Celtics, crack.
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he predicted the lakers would beat the celtics
he predicted the pistons would beat the celtics
he predicted the rams to play the texans in the SB
he's havin a bad year ;)
LOL...most analysts predicted the Lakers and Pistons would beat the Celtics, crack.
and they were just as wrong as you...stating that others were also wrong does not make you any less wrong.
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he predicted the lakers would beat the celtics
he predicted the pistons would beat the celtics
he predicted the rams to play the texans in the SB
he's havin a bad year ;)
LOL...most analysts predicted the Lakers and Pistons would beat the Celtics, crack.
and they were just as wrong as you...stating that others were also wrong does not make you any less wrong.
right...but it wasnt an absurd prediction.
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^^^maybe not absurd, but your track record for making wrong predictions is immaculate.
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The people talkin shit about Bynum don't know the first thing about him...
you say this about every single Laker that you try to build up as the next best thing. lol. We're still waiting for one of your predictions to come true. Im sure when one does, and your 1 for 50....youll say "i told u so" :loser:
LOL...MOST of my predictions come true...i was the only one to say that we shouldnt trade Bynum way before he showed signs of beasting. you act like i say shit like "Coby Karl will be better than Larry Bird", when in reality, all my claims are backed by evidence and rationality.
wow.
Come true? No
Beasting? No
Rationality? No (you cant be obsessed and still be making predictions based on rationality)
Evidence? lol. Religious nuts give "evidence" every day that there is a god. But that shit hasnt been proven either.
Just give up NIK. Youre like Evander Holyfield man. The more you fight...the more ridiculous you look.
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he predicted the lakers would beat the celtics
he predicted the pistons would beat the celtics
he predicted the rams to play the texans in the SB
he's havin a bad year ;)
LOL...most analysts predicted the Lakers and Pistons would beat the Celtics, crack.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=detbos 6 of 10, thats most "most" (i.e. everyone picking NE to beat the giants)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs <--tim legler's the only guy with a brain
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The people talkin shit about Bynum don't know the first thing about him...
you say this about every single Laker that you try to build up as the next best thing. lol. We're still waiting for one of your predictions to come true. Im sure when one does, and your 1 for 50....youll say "i told u so" :loser:
LOL...MOST of my predictions come true...i was the only one to say that we shouldnt trade Bynum way before he showed signs of beasting. you act like i say shit like "Coby Karl will be better than Larry Bird", when in reality, all my claims are backed by evidence and rationality.
wow.
Come true? No
Beasting? No
Rationality? No (you cant be obsessed and still be making predictions based on rationality)
Evidence? lol. Religious nuts give "evidence" every day that there is a god. But that shit hasnt been proven either.
Just give up NIK. Youre like Evander Holyfield man. The more you fight...the more ridiculous you look.
LOL...keep hating. youre talkin in circles while not proving shit...at least point out what i say that's irrational and explain how. you cant do it.