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Title: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: Brown Guy on September 24, 2008, 08:59:37 AM
It seems like these record labels think the music coming from the west coast doesnt appeal to the masses. I am sure they have polls and marketing statistics showing the same... I mean how many new artists from the westcoast went plat or even gold in the last 5 years?
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Post by: SoilSavy707 on September 24, 2008, 09:22:35 AM
E-40 My Ghetto Report Card-Certified GOLD.
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: Brown Guy on September 24, 2008, 09:28:17 AM
Hes been around sense the 90s.
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: wardy on September 24, 2008, 01:40:38 PM
Only one i can think of is Game
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on September 24, 2008, 01:58:14 PM
cats have been sayin it for years
fuck tha industry, why is crooked waitin for a fuckin record deal, isnt he a boss?
a BOSS, right so do the damn thing why you waitin for treach?
obviously they cant do shit, tryna to get 250K, looks like they dont even have $250.00. 
what happened to jay- o-felony?
fuckin industry, and rappers that wait for the industry to feed them
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: Fonky Fresh on September 24, 2008, 02:16:02 PM
I mean how many new artists from the westcoast went plat or even gold in the last 5 years?

Worldwide sells that's how and the numbers are low. Platinium means nothing nowadays since they lowered the number to reach to pretend being certified platimium.

Westcoast music that's gangsta music at 90%, i don't see how it could be appealing.The gangsta attitude was trendy back then but the real problems remains, don't they?

Hence, we now see the resurgence of electronic music as a matter of fact mtv (over here) don't play rap anymore.

By the way, rap nowadays is total crap no worldplay , no artform whatsoever.







Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: Brown Guy on September 24, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
Seems like rap has died down alot.
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: Ratio on September 24, 2008, 09:17:30 PM
They probably see L.A. radio not supporting it's own...that leaves an impression...cuz if someone is about to invest money they would want to see more of a local base to launch a campaign from...
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: R-Tistic on September 24, 2008, 09:34:09 PM
They probably see L.A. radio not supporting it's own...that leaves an impression...cuz if someone is about to invest money they would want to see more of a local base to launch a campaign from...

I don't even want to talk about radio....KDay went from playing a mix of new West artists, old west, a small amount of what's current and "hot", and everything inbetween.....to playing THREE nationally syndicated shows EVERY DAY of the week, meaning NO local DJs or personalities, and absolutely NOTHING but Top 40 music...and after those go off, Theo does the R&B and commercial songs. If somebody told me that 93.5 was a Chicago, Atlanta, or Texas station...I wouldn't even guess twice. The ONLY time you hear anything West period is at night on Fridays and some weekends...and you rarely hear new artists now.
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: R-Tistic on September 24, 2008, 09:35:59 PM
And on this topic itself, I could go all day....but I'll just summarize it.....

No, there is no market right now. Hyphy had a slight chance, but even that was just club music...it didn't make anybody buy albums. There is really no mainstream market for GOOD music nowadays, whether West East or South (Little Brother, etc.) but even if we had stronger artists and albums coming out, it wouldn't necessarily mean it would get promoted right.
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: yunstar on September 24, 2008, 09:48:25 PM
It seems like these record labels think the music coming from the west coast doesnt appeal to the masses. I am sure they have polls and marketing statistics showing the same... I mean how many new artists from the westcoast went plat or even gold in the last 5 years?


The problem here is we like whatever the radio feeds us :(
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on September 24, 2008, 09:55:11 PM
The West or Good artists in general simply needs better promoters and executives, cuz as far as rap is concern, Jay Z, Jimmy Iovine are the main reason why music sucks these days and the good artists are ignored
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: D Breezy on September 24, 2008, 10:15:29 PM
seems like more and more rappers are going independent. that means lack of promotion but you make more money per album, thats y u dont hear um on the radio tho... remember the last time they played a daz song... only when so so def was backin him.
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: love33 on September 25, 2008, 12:36:41 AM
Does this look like a mainstream market?? Some of you all must live on the net.  The West isn't doing 1990's but they are doing steady.

E-40 "Wake It Up"
The Game & Chris Brown "Nice"
DJ Felli Fel "The Finer Things"
DJ Felli Fel "Get Buck In Here"
The Game "Game's Pain" and "My Life"
Snoop "Sexual Seduction"
Snoop & Too Short "Life Of Da Party"
Too Short & Lil Jon w/ Shawty Putt "Dat Baby Don't Look Like Me"
Warren G ft. Ray J "Crush"
Glasses Malone, Rick Ross, Birdman, & T-Pain "Sun Come Up"
Baby Bash ft. Keith Sweat "Don't Stop"
Glasses Malone & Akon "Certified"
Glasses Malone & Lil Wayne "Haterz"
Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, Nelly "L.A."
Ray J w/ Trey Songz, Fat Joe "We Global"
Will.I.Am w/ Flo Rida -- "In the Ayer"
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Post by: hellrazor86 on September 25, 2008, 03:24:29 AM
Does this look like a mainstream market?? Some of you all must live on the net.  The West isn't doing 1990's but they are doing steady.

E-40 "Wake It Up"
The Game & Chris Brown "Nice"
DJ Felli Fel "The Finer Things"
DJ Felli Fel "Get Buck In Here"
The Game "Game's Pain" and "My Life"
Snoop "Sexual Seduction"
Snoop & Too Short "Life Of Da Party"
Too Short & Lil Jon w/ Shawty Putt "Dat Baby Don't Look Like Me"
Warren G ft. Ray J "Crush"
Glasses Malone, Rick Ross, Birdman, & T-Pain "Sun Come Up"
Baby Bash ft. Keith Sweat "Don't Stop"
Glasses Malone & Akon "Certified"
Glasses Malone & Lil Wayne "Haterz"
Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, Nelly "L.A."
Ray J w/ Trey Songz, Fat Joe "We Global"
Will.I.Am w/ Flo Rida -- "In the Ayer"
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: bullet_wrongkind on September 25, 2008, 05:43:51 AM
everyone does now independently.
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: ABN on September 25, 2008, 06:09:41 AM
rappers and the people need to quit bitching! when no one was willing to sign cats from the south they went out and grinded indie and hustled extremely hard. and that in turn forced the major labels to try to sign them which in turn allowed those southern artists to get deals that the average rapper from anywhere but the south could only dream of. you get out what you put in, itīs pretty simple. if Crooked wouldīve said fuck these majors and been willing to work 10x harder indie he would prolly be good now. but he and a bunch of other artists that claim to be bosses need to start acting like bosses. a boss donīt sit around and wait for anyone to go out and get it for them. they just get out and take whatever thereīs to take by themselves.
Title: Re: No mainstream market for westcoast music?
Post by: R-Tistic on September 25, 2008, 12:49:22 PM
Does this look like a mainstream market?? Some of you all must live on the net.  The West isn't doing 1990's but they are doing steady.

E-40 "Wake It Up"
The Game & Chris Brown "Nice"
DJ Felli Fel "The Finer Things"
DJ Felli Fel "Get Buck In Here"
The Game "Game's Pain" and "My Life"
Snoop "Sexual Seduction"
Snoop & Too Short "Life Of Da Party"
Too Short & Lil Jon w/ Shawty Putt "Dat Baby Don't Look Like Me"
Warren G ft. Ray J "Crush"
Glasses Malone, Rick Ross, Birdman, & T-Pain "Sun Come Up"
Baby Bash ft. Keith Sweat "Don't Stop"
Glasses Malone & Akon "Certified"
Glasses Malone & Lil Wayne "Haterz"
Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, Nelly "L.A."
Ray J w/ Trey Songz, Fat Joe "We Global"
Will.I.Am w/ Flo Rida -- "In the Ayer"

For one....of those songs, only Pain, My Life, Life of the party, and Sexual seduction got MAJOR play in every state...some of them got limited play in some areas, and for tracks like Felli Fel, it was not a west coast artist on it....and you list those, while we can name 50-80 from the South that have made similar noise or even MUCH more noise...so it's not saying much. You can just compare those four songs I mentioned to the four songs that Wayne alone has put out and got major play from...and even subtracting him, you could do it by state or whatever...we are not getting NEARLY as much play.

I was DJ'n in Florida for about a year before coming back here....and I could only get away with playing 6-8 West Coast songs that have come out since 2006...and if I didn't count 06, I might be down to 3-4 songs.