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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Russell Bell on October 17, 2008, 01:32:17 AM
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9111016&st=chinese+democracy&lp=4&type=product&cp=1&id=1925065 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9111016&st=chinese+democracy&lp=4&type=product&cp=1&id=1925065)
Most anticipated album (probably) this side of Detox...looks like it might see the light of day. Anyone interested/picking it up/downloading it? Im a big fan so i'll be buying it.
Im still skeptical, but all signs seem to be pointing that this is actually happening.
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I will cry if this is true.
Chinese Democracy, Guns N' Roses' 17-years-in-the-making follow-up to 1991's Use Your Illusion albums, will feature 14 tracks when it's released November 25, exclusively through Best Buy.
According to a Best Buy's site, where the oft-delayed LP is available for pre-order, the album's title track will lead off the set, which features just one of the legendary rock band's founding members, frontman Axl Rose.
The rest of the tracks include "Scraped," "Shackler's Revenge" (which appears on the new "Rock Band 2" video game), "Street of Dreams," "If the World" (which accompanies the closing credits of "Body of Lies," the new thriller starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Russell Crowe) and "This I Love." There are also several tracks that have leaked online over the years in various stages of completion: "Better," "There Was a Time," "Riad N' the Bedovins," "Sorry," "I.R.S.," "Catcher," "Madagascar" and the album closer, "Prostitute."
The release date has yet to be officially confirmed by GN'R's label, Interscope, the band's manager, Andy Gould, or Rose himself. But all signs seem to indicate that the album no one ever thought would see the light of retail will be in stores in time for the holiday shopping season.
The revelation that the album will be released by 2008's end means Dr Pepper is going to be giving away a lot of free soda — so long as the soft-drink company makes good on its promise that everyone in America (except ex-members Slash and Buckethead) would get a free can of soda if GN'R released Chinese Democracy this year.
Rose has even gotten behind the idea. "We are surprised and very happy to have the support of Dr Pepper with our album," he said in a statement in March. "As for us, this came totally out of the blue. If there is any involvement with this promotion by our record company or others, we are unaware of such at this time. And as some of Buckethead's performances are on our album, I'll share my Dr Pepper with him."
According to sources, Dr Pepper is waiting for the release date to be made official before rolling out its plan to distribute free cans of its product. "We're waiting to hear about Chinese Democracy just like all the other GN'R fans," Tony Jacobs, the vice president of marketing for Dr Pepper, said in a statement last week. "But if the rumors are true, we're putting the Dr Pepper on ice."
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^ Good lookin. I was just about to post a link of the same thing.
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I'm so happy Madagascar is on there, that has been the track I've been most impressed with of the leaked songs..
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i'd like to see this album released but i doubt it'll be anything close to GnR's previous works..
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i wonder if it will sell, i kinda doubt it´s go anything near what they used to do.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/lH_ygJO6_vE
this song is fuckin horrible :-X
taken from the new album and it's on the game ROCK BAND 2
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http://www.youtube.com/v/lH_ygJO6_vE
this song is fuckin horrible :-X
taken from the new album and it's on the game ROCK BAND 2
Sounds a bit muffled but if it's mixed right on the album I won't have any complaints.
Of the leaked tracks I've been listening to Better a lot. I love that song.
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its an axel rose album with some backup band...no guns and roses without slash, they are velvet revolver now or sth like this.
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its an axel rose album with some backup band...no guns and roses without slash, they are velvet revolver now or sth like this.
exactly my dude....dont they have some dumbfuck with a kfc bucket on his head?
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i'm a cop it, i can't help the fact that i'm a huge axl and gnr fan,
chill
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its an axel rose album with some backup band...no guns and roses without slash, they are velvet revolver now or sth like this.
What if Axl brought back Tracii Guns?
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i would really like to hear that axl rose and eazy-e song
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its an axel rose album with some backup band...no guns and roses without slash, they are velvet revolver now or sth like this.
exactly my dude....dont they have some dumbfuck with a kfc bucket on his head?
That would be Buckethead. He's been out of the band since 03, and hes probably one of the most talented guitarists out today.
About the songs on it: About 9 of the songs on the album have been leaked and they all sound good to me, def. different than old GNR, but I like the new direction. I think the new music works, and I admire Axl for going in a new direction and not trying to relive 1987.
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I think im going to d/l it first to see if its worth buying but i definately will if i thinks its cool :)
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its an axel rose album with some backup band...no guns and roses without slash, they are velvet revolver now or sth like this.
Yep. This is NOT Guns N Roses. Axel Failed.
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its an axel rose album with some backup band...no guns and roses without slash, they are velvet revolver now or sth like this.
Yep. This is NOT Guns N Roses. Axel Failed.
Have either of you guys heard any of the new stuff? I can understand if you dont like the music, for the music's sake, but you might be missing some good shit if you dismiss it cause of the band lineup.
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Some of the new songs are good imo. I miss Slah and duff of couse but still Axl wrote most the lyrcis and sang em, you can replace guitar, not a voice and not the vision of the songs.
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Better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZpSCawRdY
Shacklers revenge ( this is different )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_ygJO6_vE&feature=related
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Some of the new songs are good imo. I miss Slah and duff of couse but still Axl wrote most the lyrcis and sang em, you can replace guitar, not a voice and not the vision of the songs.
Axl also wrote a large part of the music from the old GnR albums, not just the lyrics back then.
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Some of the new songs are good imo. I miss Slah and duff of couse but still Axl wrote most the lyrcis and sang em, you can replace guitar, not a voice and not the vision of the songs.
Axl also wrote a large part of the music from the old GnR albums, not just the lyrics back then.
yeah him and izzy so thats my point guns n roes was always axl's vision.
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its an axel rose album with some backup band...no guns and roses without slash, they are velvet revolver now or sth like this.
Yep. This is NOT Guns N Roses. Axel Failed.
Have either of you guys heard any of the new stuff? I can understand if you dont like the music, for the music's sake, but you might be missing some good shit if you dismiss it cause of the band lineup.
Yeah, I've heard some songs and to me, they're not Guns N Roses.
GNR may have been Axl's vision but he along with the OG members made GNR.
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Better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZpSCawRdY
Shacklers revenge ( this is different )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_ygJO6_vE&feature=related
can anyone rip me an mp3 please?
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its an axel rose album with some backup band...no guns and roses without slash, they are velvet revolver now or sth like this.
Yep. This is NOT Guns N Roses. Axel Failed.
Have either of you guys heard any of the new stuff? I can understand if you dont like the music, for the music's sake, but you might be missing some good shit if you dismiss it cause of the band lineup.
Yeah, I've heard some songs and to me, they're not Guns N Roses.
GNR may have been Axl's vision but he along with the OG members made GNR.
GNR was dead to me when Tracii quit. I'll take what I've heard from the leaks over both VR albums.
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^^The Fuck? GN'R really started when Tracii left LOL
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^^The Fuck? GN'R really started when Tracii left LOL
It was a joke. Tracii was the Guns of the Guns and Roses.
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just listened to the official release of the new single chinese democracy, you can stream it here:
http://www.wrif.com
i liked it btw
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just listened to the official release of the new single chinese democracy, you can stream it here:
http://www.wrif.com
i liked it btw
Yeah, the real single version released today sounds waaaayyy better than the demo that leaked. Much fuller, better guitar throughout the song. Hearing how much this song improved makes me even more excited to hear the final album versions of the rest of the songs.
If the above link doesnt work, this will get u to "Chinese Democracy" too.
http://www.geffen.com/artist/player/default.aspx?mid=4565&aid=149&bhcp=1 (http://www.geffen.com/artist/player/default.aspx?mid=4565&aid=149&bhcp=1)
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slash was the only good thing about that band...cant stand there shit..overrated imo
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^^damn, it's all opinions but to me they are the greatest band ever.
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^^damn, it's all opinions but to me they are the greatest band ever.
Led Zepplelin, Pink Floyd, ACDC, Beatles, Van Halen, Sabbath, System of a Down + hundreds of others >>>>>>>>>>>>Guns and Roses imo
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^^damn, it's all opinions but to me they are the greatest band ever.
Led Zepplelin, Pink Floyd, ACDC, Beatles, Van Halen, Sabbath, System of a Down + hundreds of others >>>>>>>>>>>>Guns and Roses imo
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
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just listened to the official release of the new single chinese democracy, you can stream it here:
http://www.wrif.com
i liked it btw
Yeah, the real single version released today sounds waaaayyy better than the demo that leaked. Much fuller, better guitar throughout the song. Hearing how much this song improved makes me even more excited to hear the final album versions of the rest of the songs.
someone rip the song for me on rapid or sendspace please?
If the above link doesnt work, this will get u to "Chinese Democracy" too.
http://www.geffen.com/artist/player/default.aspx?mid=4565&aid=149&bhcp=1 (http://www.geffen.com/artist/player/default.aspx?mid=4565&aid=149&bhcp=1)
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I hope Slash still got his skills - all I see him do is plug Guitar Hero.
Interscope/Geffen gonna release the two of most anticipated albums of all time within the next year.....unless Dre trying to beat their record lol
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I hope Slash still got his skills - all I see him do is plug Guitar Hero.
Interscope/Geffen gonna release the two of most anticipated albums of all time within the next year.....unless Dre trying to beat their record lol
Slash (IMO) hasnt written anything as good as in his GNR days. Im actually glad he's not involved in this new GNR record, his Velvet Revolver stuff really disappointed me. Dont get me wrong, I love Slash, but I dont think hes been the same since the early 90's.
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Damn No One Can Rip The Song 4 Me?
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Damn No One Can Rip The Song 4 Me?
if i knew how, i would
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^^damn, it's all opinions but to me they are the greatest band ever.
Led Zepplelin, Pink Floyd, ACDC, Beatles, Van Halen, Sabbath, System of a Down + hundreds of others >>>>>>>>>>>>Guns and Roses imo
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
the bands highlighted and underlined are definately not better imo...some of the others you can make arguments about,
chill
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^^damn, it's all opinions but to me they are the greatest band ever.
Led Zepplelin, Pink Floyd, ACDC, Beatles, Van Halen, Sabbath, System of a Down + hundreds of others >>>>>>>>>>>>Guns and Roses imo
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
the bands highlighted and underlined are definately not better imo...some of the others you can make arguments about,
chill
Yeah, AC/DC (while awesome) have made one song for the past 4 decades. Van Halen, also awesome, but I never got it that they were a "all time great" band for some reason.
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^^damn, it's all opinions but to me they are the greatest band ever.
Led Zepplelin, Pink Floyd, ACDC, Beatles, Van Halen, Sabbath, System of a Down + hundreds of others >>>>>>>>>>>>Guns and Roses imo
Your opinion is pretty much exactly how i feel about both of those bands. In ACDC's case, just because they have one of the biggest selling albums of all time, doesn't make them one of the best. All their music sounds exactly the same, very repetitive,
chill
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
the bands highlighted and underlined are definately not better imo...some of the others you can make arguments about,
chill
Yeah, AC/DC (while awesome) have made one song for the past 4 decades. Van Halen, also awesome, but I never got it that they were a "all time great" band for some reason.
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i aint sayin all those bands are all time greats, they dont need to be in order to be better then Guns n roses. just my views
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i aint sayin all those bands are all time greats, they dont need to be in order to be better then Guns n roses. just my views
For sure.
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Why are Van Halen and SOAD better than GnR? I fail to see that..
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Why are Van Halen and SOAD better than GnR? I fail to see that..
person opinion man
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^^damn, it's all opinions but to me they are the greatest band ever.
Led Zepplelin, Pink Floyd, ACDC, Beatles, Van Halen, Sabbath, System of a Down + hundreds of others >>>>>>>>>>>>Guns and Roses imo
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
the bands highlighted and underlined are definately not better imo...some of the others you can make arguments about,
chill
Yeah, AC/DC (while awesome) have made one song for the past 4 decades. Van Halen, also awesome, but I never got it that they were a "all time great" band for some reason.
You do know AC/DC just released a new album on Tuesday right?
I fail to understand the 1 song in 4 decades statement... GN'R are defo no AC/DC. (Not even close)
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^^Your right they are 10x better then ACDC and I am a big ACDC fan
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^^Your right they are 10x better then ACDC and I am a big ACDC fan
pretty sure hes saying that acdc is better than guns and roses
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^^ I know, I was being a smart ass. In all honesty I love ACDC, but IMO GN'R is on a whole other level
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^^ I know, I was being a smart ass. In all honesty I love ACDC, but IMO GN'R is on a whole other level
i thought that might be the case, hard to catch sarcasm over the internet
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^^damn, it's all opinions but to me they are the greatest band ever.
Led Zepplelin, Pink Floyd, ACDC, Beatles, Van Halen, Sabbath, System of a Down + hundreds of others >>>>>>>>>>>>Guns and Roses imo
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
the bands highlighted and underlined are definately not better imo...some of the others you can make arguments about,
chill
Yeah, AC/DC (while awesome) have made one song for the past 4 decades. Van Halen, also awesome, but I never got it that they were a "all time great" band for some reason.
You do know AC/DC just released a new album on Tuesday right?
I fail to understand the 1 song in 4 decades statement... GN'R are defo no AC/DC. (Not even close)
i think the 4 decades thing meant, every song of theirs is the same...exactly same forfula and substance all the time, gets boring very fast,
chill
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^^ I know, I was being a smart ass. In all honesty I love ACDC, but IMO GN'R is on a whole other level
exacly
i can give ac/dc there props for making cool little rock songs but Gunsa n roses and trhem dont even compare
Guns had masterpiece that went 6-8 minutes at time. They had songs that told stories.
lyrics were muchj much deeper and had way more meaning. Guitar riffs, solos were way more diversafied. Song topics as well.
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^^damn, it's all opinions but to me they are the greatest band ever.
Led Zepplelin, Pink Floyd, ACDC, Beatles, Van Halen, Sabbath, System of a Down + hundreds of others >>>>>>>>>>>>Guns and Roses imo
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
the bands highlighted and underlined are definately not better imo...some of the others you can make arguments about,
chill
Yeah, AC/DC (while awesome) have made one song for the past 4 decades. Van Halen, also awesome, but I never got it that they were a "all time great" band for some reason.
You do know AC/DC just released a new album on Tuesday right?
I fail to understand the 1 song in 4 decades statement... GN'R are defo no AC/DC. (Not even close)
i think the 4 decades thing meant, every song of theirs is the same...exactly same forfula and substance all the time, gets boring very fast,
chill
Yeah exactly. Dont get me wrong, theyre sick and all, and I know its just personal opinion and thats cool, but I just feel that AC/DC doesnt have much variety to their stuff. How is their new album by the way? If its good, I'll skip the download and buy it....gotta support good music.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpvmrv1o5xM&feature=related
Queen, Elton john and Axl rose.... Axl rose kills it
what up SPice
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpvmrv1o5xM&feature=related
Queen, Elton john and Axl rose.... Axl rose kills it
what up SPice
this is one of my fav axl live performances ever....the dvd to this show is sick.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpvmrv1o5xM&feature=related
Queen, Elton john and Axl rose.... Axl rose kills it
what up SPice
Absolutely amazing!! I can never get enough of this! One of my favorite performances ever!
Axl will always be my favorite artist ever hands down, the guy had it all
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The Album Has Leaked Y'all ;D
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The Album Has Leaked Y'all ;D
You sure? All the places I check, that say it's the retail, have just the same demos that have been out for a while now.l
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Over 13 Million dollars went into the making of this album... They will NEVER make the money back, haha.
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Over 13 Million dollars went into the making of this album... They will NEVER make the money back, haha.
hah what a joke
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The Album Has Leaked Y'all ;D
hook it up?
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The Album Has Leaked Y'all ;D
hook it up?
U sure its not just the 9 demo song thing that leaked a while back?
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Well I have anticipated this album since the very first year it was meant to have released... I enjoyed all of their previous offerings (yes even the Spaghetti Incident) and would call myself a huge fan... i went and saw Axel and his fill in band perform as Guns n Roses last year with Skid Row and Stone Roses and actually left me quite excited about what was to finally come out.... DUM DUM DUM Then I heard the Single Chinese Democracy... It wasnt what I had been hoping for and then I found a site with all leaked tracks except for like three and Listened to what I hoped would be redemption and reward for the long wait I had to endure.... Track after track let me down... What is missing IS Slash... even without other former members you could pull it off with just Axel and Slash and have a Hit single or two and the fans would feel ok paying money for this... but this isnt even a shadow of Guns.... If you want to feel good about paying for something over this as a rock fan Id pay for ACDC over this any day (despite the fact I downloaded and enjoyed it weeks early)
I would rate Slash's Snakepit and Velvet Revolver over this heap anyday!!! I am actually now shifting focus to what Lenny Kravitz will bring to the next Velvet Revolver album and trying to forget that I ever listened to this.... SMH (Just dont bother releasing this album Axel... maybe it could be a tax write off for charity if you gave away any copies you had made!!!)
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Well I have anticipated this album since the very first year it was meant to have released... I enjoyed all of their previous offerings (yes even the Spaghetti Incident) and would call myself a huge fan... i went and saw Axel and his fill in band perform as Guns n Roses last year with Skid Row and Stone Roses and actually left me quite excited about what was to finally come out.... DUM DUM DUM Then I heard the Single Chinese Democracy... It wasnt what I had been hoping for and then I found a site with all leaked tracks except for like three and Listened to what I hoped would be redemption and reward for the long wait I had to endure.... Track after track let me down... What is missing IS Slash... even without other former members you could pull it off with just Axel and Slash and have a Hit single or two and the fans would feel ok paying money for this... but this isnt even a shadow of Guns.... If you want to feel good about paying for something over this as a rock fan Id pay for ACDC over this any day (despite the fact I downloaded and enjoyed it weeks early)
I would rate Slash's Snakepit and Velvet Revolver over this heap anyday!!! I am actually now shifting focus to what Lenny Kravitz will bring to the next Velvet Revolver album and trying to forget that I ever listened to this.... SMH (Just dont bother releasing this album Axel... maybe it could be a tax write off for charity if you gave away any copies you had made!!!)
I'll take the Chinese Democracy single, and Better over most of the Use Your Illusion tracks, much less the VR tracks. What would made CD any different if Slash was on it? Just the solo would sound cooler. The rest of the song would be the exact same. Slash was not the creative mind behind the old songs. Axl and Izzy were. Now maybe this album would have been better if Izzy was back in the fold. But as much as I love Slash as a player, he was never a top songwriter. Everything I heard from the demos is better than anything I've heard from VR or Snakepit.
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Well I have anticipated this album since the very first year it was meant to have released... I enjoyed all of their previous offerings (yes even the Spaghetti Incident) and would call myself a huge fan... i went and saw Axel and his fill in band perform as Guns n Roses last year with Skid Row and Stone Roses and actually left me quite excited about what was to finally come out.... DUM DUM DUM Then I heard the Single Chinese Democracy... It wasnt what I had been hoping for and then I found a site with all leaked tracks except for like three and Listened to what I hoped would be redemption and reward for the long wait I had to endure.... Track after track let me down... What is missing IS Slash... even without other former members you could pull it off with just Axel and Slash and have a Hit single or two and the fans would feel ok paying money for this... but this isnt even a shadow of Guns.... If you want to feel good about paying for something over this as a rock fan Id pay for ACDC over this any day (despite the fact I downloaded and enjoyed it weeks early)
I would rate Slash's Snakepit and Velvet Revolver over this heap anyday!!! I am actually now shifting focus to what Lenny Kravitz will bring to the next Velvet Revolver album and trying to forget that I ever listened to this.... SMH (Just dont bother releasing this album Axel... maybe it could be a tax write off for charity if you gave away any copies you had made!!!)
Where/when did you see Guns? I saw em twice in 06 - Las Vegas and in San Francisco at the Warfield. Las Vegas show was awesome, the crowd was into it, and Axl fed off that. SF....well, the crowd was chalked full of idiots and people throwing shit, it really affected the vibe of the show.
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Well I have anticipated this album since the very first year it was meant to have released... I enjoyed all of their previous offerings (yes even the Spaghetti Incident) and would call myself a huge fan... i went and saw Axel and his fill in band perform as Guns n Roses last year with Skid Row and Stone Roses and actually left me quite excited about what was to finally come out.... DUM DUM DUM Then I heard the Single Chinese Democracy... It wasnt what I had been hoping for and then I found a site with all leaked tracks except for like three and Listened to what I hoped would be redemption and reward for the long wait I had to endure.... Track after track let me down... What is missing IS Slash... even without other former members you could pull it off with just Axel and Slash and have a Hit single or two and the fans would feel ok paying money for this... but this isnt even a shadow of Guns.... If you want to feel good about paying for something over this as a rock fan Id pay for ACDC over this any day (despite the fact I downloaded and enjoyed it weeks early)
I would rate Slash's Snakepit and Velvet Revolver over this heap anyday!!! I am actually now shifting focus to what Lenny Kravitz will bring to the next Velvet Revolver album and trying to forget that I ever listened to this.... SMH (Just dont bother releasing this album Axel... maybe it could be a tax write off for charity if you gave away any copies you had made!!!)
I'll take the Chinese Democracy single, and Better over most of the Use Your Illusion tracks, much less the VR tracks. What would made CD any different if Slash was on it? Just the solo would sound cooler. The rest of the song would be the exact same. Slash was not the creative mind behind the old songs. Axl and Izzy were. Now maybe this album would have been better if Izzy was back in the fold. But as much as I love Slash as a player, he was never a top songwriter. Everything I heard from the demos is better than anything I've heard from VR or Snakepit.
Solos and strong lead guitar work and riffs that only Slash can bring would make a huge difference over this shite that theyre attempting to sell to us.... Izzy and Axel were the songwriters thats true but he added all the extras that made a Guns album stand above and beyond.... Try to tell me you wouldnt enjoy it a million times more if Slash added his bits over these songs.... Hes already called it correct: There's not a single major hit on this album... Real GNR RIP
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Where/when did you see Guns? I saw em twice in 06 - Las Vegas and in San Francisco at the Warfield. Las Vegas show was awesome, the crowd was into it, and Axl fed off that. SF....well, the crowd was chalked full of idiots and people throwing shit, it really affected the vibe of the show.
Saw them in Auckland New Zealand... Sebastian Bach was not too bad and the show was really good for what it was.... I suppose "Axel Rose with sessions band" doesnt quite sell those tickets though... :P
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Where/when did you see Guns? I saw em twice in 06 - Las Vegas and in San Francisco at the Warfield. Las Vegas show was awesome, the crowd was into it, and Axl fed off that. SF....well, the crowd was chalked full of idiots and people throwing shit, it really affected the vibe of the show.
Saw them in Auckland New Zealand... Sebastian Bach was not too bad and the show was really good for what it was.... I suppose "Axel Rose with sessions band" doesnt quite sell those tickets though... :P
I think u should be able to believe whatever you want about the new GNR and their songs....However, one thing I don't get, is why people who seem to resent new GNR not having Slash and the other old members and their new music, go and see them live. I encountered these people at the show in San Fran, all they did was waste their money, ruin the vibe of the show, and annoy people around them with their anti-Axl shit talking.
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Well I have anticipated this album since the very first year it was meant to have released... I enjoyed all of their previous offerings (yes even the Spaghetti Incident) and would call myself a huge fan... i went and saw Axel and his fill in band perform as Guns n Roses last year with Skid Row and Stone Roses and actually left me quite excited about what was to finally come out.... DUM DUM DUM Then I heard the Single Chinese Democracy... It wasnt what I had been hoping for and then I found a site with all leaked tracks except for like three and Listened to what I hoped would be redemption and reward for the long wait I had to endure.... Track after track let me down... What is missing IS Slash... even without other former members you could pull it off with just Axel and Slash and have a Hit single or two and the fans would feel ok paying money for this... but this isnt even a shadow of Guns.... If you want to feel good about paying for something over this as a rock fan Id pay for ACDC over this any day (despite the fact I downloaded and enjoyed it weeks early)
I would rate Slash's Snakepit and Velvet Revolver over this heap anyday!!! I am actually now shifting focus to what Lenny Kravitz will bring to the next Velvet Revolver album and trying to forget that I ever listened to this.... SMH (Just dont bother releasing this album Axel... maybe it could be a tax write off for charity if you gave away any copies you had made!!!)
I'll take the Chinese Democracy single, and Better over most of the Use Your Illusion tracks, much less the VR tracks. What would made CD any different if Slash was on it? Just the solo would sound cooler. The rest of the song would be the exact same. Slash was not the creative mind behind the old songs. Axl and Izzy were. Now maybe this album would have been better if Izzy was back in the fold. But as much as I love Slash as a player, he was never a top songwriter. Everything I heard from the demos is better than anything I've heard from VR or Snakepit.
Solos and strong lead guitar work and riffs that only Slash can bring would make a huge difference over this shite that theyre attempting to sell to us.... Izzy and Axel were the songwriters thats true but he added all the extras that made a Guns album stand above and beyond.... Try to tell me you wouldnt enjoy it a million times more if Slash added his bits over these songs.... Hes already called it correct: There's not a single major hit on this album... Real GNR RIP
Of course I'd prefer it to have Slash. No doubt about it, but as it stands in my opinion the Rose with his "guns" is better than the "guns" without the Roses. Both VR albums were huge disappointments. The one thing I wanted from them were long sdlash solos and I didn't get them. I'll listen to Better a million times more than I'll listen to any Slash song with out Axl.
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Well I have anticipated this album since the very first year it was meant to have released... I enjoyed all of their previous offerings (yes even the Spaghetti Incident) and would call myself a huge fan... i went and saw Axel and his fill in band perform as Guns n Roses last year with Skid Row and Stone Roses and actually left me quite excited about what was to finally come out.... DUM DUM DUM Then I heard the Single Chinese Democracy... It wasnt what I had been hoping for and then I found a site with all leaked tracks except for like three and Listened to what I hoped would be redemption and reward for the long wait I had to endure.... Track after track let me down... What is missing IS Slash... even without other former members you could pull it off with just Axel and Slash and have a Hit single or two and the fans would feel ok paying money for this... but this isnt even a shadow of Guns.... If you want to feel good about paying for something over this as a rock fan Id pay for ACDC over this any day (despite the fact I downloaded and enjoyed it weeks early)
I would rate Slash's Snakepit and Velvet Revolver over this heap anyday!!! I am actually now shifting focus to what Lenny Kravitz will bring to the next Velvet Revolver album and trying to forget that I ever listened to this.... SMH (Just dont bother releasing this album Axel... maybe it could be a tax write off for charity if you gave away any copies you had made!!!)
I'll take the Chinese Democracy single, and Better over most of the Use Your Illusion tracks, much less the VR tracks. What would made CD any different if Slash was on it? Just the solo would sound cooler. The rest of the song would be the exact same. Slash was not the creative mind behind the old songs. Axl and Izzy were. Now maybe this album would have been better if Izzy was back in the fold. But as much as I love Slash as a player, he was never a top songwriter. Everything I heard from the demos is better than anything I've heard from VR or Snakepit.
Solos and strong lead guitar work and riffs that only Slash can bring would make a huge difference over this shite that theyre attempting to sell to us.... Izzy and Axel were the songwriters thats true but he added all the extras that made a Guns album stand above and beyond.... Try to tell me you wouldnt enjoy it a million times more if Slash added his bits over these songs.... Hes already called it correct: There's not a single major hit on this album... Real GNR RIP
Of course I'd prefer it to have Slash. No doubt about it, but as it stands in my opinion the Rose with his "guns" is better than the "guns" without the Roses. Both VR albums were huge disappointments. The one thing I wanted from them were long sdlash solos and I didn't get them. I'll listen to Better a million times more than I'll listen to any Slash song with out Axl.
I agree, it's the sound and mood that the band portrays that I've always liked, no matter how the roster changes... Velvet Revolver is a totally different type of sound as a whole..
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Velvet revolver had 3 memebers from gnr and i never realy got into it.
All the new Guns songs i like.
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So it really looks like this is coming out for sure on November 23rd!!!
I dont know what to say, I am so excited and nervous to. I havnt listened to any of the leaked songs except for better because I wanted to wait till this comes out
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Just listened to the album this morning... Not really feeling it!!!!
I'm sad... Wtf... It's like Axl has aged sooooo much.....
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Just listened to the album this morning... Not really feeling it!!!!
I'm sad... Wtf... It's like Axl has aged sooooo much.....
The 9 song demo leak? Cause I dont think the final version has leaked yet...
Judging from how Chinese Democracy changed (from the demo to the new single version), I would bet that most of those demos will be heavily improved.
Just bought Chinese Democracy (single) from iTunes, this album is coming!!
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This is the one I got... http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Guns-N-Roses-Chinese-Democracy-2008-MrD-tRg-Music-Release/32830802ae3e877212877880d2093cdffb74bb59369a
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This is the one I got... http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Guns-N-Roses-Chinese-Democracy-2008-MrD-tRg-Music-Release/32830802ae3e877212877880d2093cdffb74bb59369a
From the look of the tracklist, this is just a compilation of demos that arent going to make the album, or demos that arent final versions. Oh My God was a song from '99 off of the End of Days soundtrack. Silkworms was never leaked as a demo and was only played live. Looks like a BS leak.
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This is the one I got... http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Guns-N-Roses-Chinese-Democracy-2008-MrD-tRg-Music-Release/32830802ae3e877212877880d2093cdffb74bb59369a
From the look of the tracklist, this is just a compilation of demos that arent going to make the album, or demos that arent final versions. Oh My God was a song from '99 off of the End of Days soundtrack. Silkworms was never leaked as a demo and was only played live. Looks like a BS leak.
Nah it's legit, all studio quality. Oh My God is revamped from the End of Days version...
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This is the one I got... http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Guns-N-Roses-Chinese-Democracy-2008-MrD-tRg-Music-Release/32830802ae3e877212877880d2093cdffb74bb59369a
From the look of the tracklist, this is just a compilation of demos that arent going to make the album, or demos that arent final versions. Oh My God was a song from '99 off of the End of Days soundtrack. Silkworms was never leaked as a demo and was only played live. Looks like a BS leak.
Nah it's legit, all studio quality. Oh My God is revamped from the End of Days version...
Really?? Thats weird cause oh my god isnt on the final tracklisting, neither is Silkworms.
Downloading now...
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Nah, this is a bunch of demos, mixed with old tracks that arent on the album ("oh my god" and "silkworms"). All of these versions are the same demos that leaked months ago on the Antiquiet blog. Some are even mislabeled ("This I Love" is actually "Prostitute").
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Nah, this is a bunch of demos, mixed with old tracks that arent on the album ("oh my god" and "silkworms"). All of these versions are the same demos that leaked months ago on the Antiquiet blog. Some are even mislabeled ("This I Love" is actually "Prostitute").
Are you sure? Good!!!! I was really disappointed with what I heard!!!
I'm happy now, good looking Pacman
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Nah, this is a bunch of demos, mixed with old tracks that arent on the album ("oh my god" and "silkworms"). All of these versions are the same demos that leaked months ago on the Antiquiet blog. Some are even mislabeled ("This I Love" is actually "Prostitute").
Are you sure? Good!!!! I was really disappointed with what I heard!!!
I'm happy now, good looking Pacman
No problem. Here's the real tracklist and some explanation for each track:
1. Chinese Democracy (leaked as live version, demo, and now released as official single on iTunes)
2. Scraped (not leaked/played live yet)
3. Shackler's Revenge (leaked as demo, released with Rock Band 2)
4. Street Of Dreams (believed to be "The Blues", which was leaked in demo form and played live)
5. If The World (leaked as demo, plays during end credits of "Body of Lies")
6. Better (leaked as demo & played live)
7. This I Love (not leaked/played live yet)
8. There Was A Time (leaked as demo & played live)
9. Riad N' The Bedouins (leaked as demo & played live)
10. Sorry (not leaked/played live yet)
11. I.R.S. (leaked as demo & played live)
12. Catcher (leaked as demo, not played live)
13. Madagascar (leaked as demo & played live)
14. Prostitute (believed to be "Song #2" that leaked a couple months back)
At face value, it may seem that most of the album has leaked. But, many of these demos are shit quality and have been changed (vocals and music), some even have leaked in different versions. Hope this clears some stuff up.
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I'm really digging the single, cool song...looking forward to the album,
chill
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Nah, this is a bunch of demos, mixed with old tracks that arent on the album ("oh my god" and "silkworms"). All of these versions are the same demos that leaked months ago on the Antiquiet blog. Some are even mislabeled ("This I Love" is actually "Prostitute").
Are you sure? Good!!!! I was really disappointed with what I heard!!!
I'm happy now, good looking Pacman
No problem. Here's the real tracklist and some explanation for each track:
1. Chinese Democracy (leaked as live version, demo, and now released as official single on iTunes)
2. Scraped (not leaked/played live yet)
3. Shackler's Revenge (leaked as demo, released with Rock Band 2)
4. Street Of Dreams (believed to be "The Blues", which was leaked in demo form and played live)
5. If The World (leaked as demo, plays during end credits of "Body of Lies")
6. Better (leaked as demo & played live)
7. This I Love (not leaked/played live yet)
8. There Was A Time (leaked as demo & played live)
9. Riad N' The Bedouins (leaked as demo & played live)
10. Sorry (not leaked/played live yet)
11. I.R.S. (leaked as demo & played live)
12. Catcher (leaked as demo, not played live)
13. Madagascar (leaked as demo & played live)
14. Prostitute (believed to be "Song #2" that leaked a couple months back)
At face value, it may seem that most of the album has leaked. But, many of these demos are shit quality and have been changed (vocals and music), some even have leaked in different versions. Hope this clears some stuff up.
Thanks! Compared to the demo, they really sharpened up Chinese Democracy title track, so yeah you can't really judge off them.. Like Madagascar Demo was the one they probably had when he performed it at MTV Awards, that was years ago, they probably made it sound so much better by now...
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First review: http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/24024297/review/24161281/chinese_democracy
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coulda been the greatest band of all time if they they woulda stayed together, their 6 year run was ridiculous
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No offence intended but rolling stone isnt too reliable with their rock reviews... Very hit and miss IMO
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ay those in the comments reviewing that shit from the demo or is retail leaked?
this is oneof the only rock albums i actually check for, that and ozzy osbourne
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Retail isn't on the net yet...
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I am soooo excited for this :rock: :rock: :rock:
Best Buy is saying it is out on the 23rd, how can that be when thats a Sunday?
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I am soooo excited for this :rock: :rock: :rock:
Best Buy is saying it is out on the 23rd, how can that be when thats a Sunday?
cd's have been released on odd days like friday before...it's not that uncommon for long awaited and anticipated albums. i'm just happy it's finally gonna see the light of day,
chill
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Nah, this is a bunch of demos, mixed with old tracks that arent on the album ("oh my god" and "silkworms"). All of these versions are the same demos that leaked months ago on the Antiquiet blog. Some are even mislabeled ("This I Love" is actually "Prostitute").
Are you sure? Good!!!! I was really disappointed with what I heard!!!
I'm happy now, good looking Pacman
can anyone give me a link to buy the single on i-tunes? i can't find it myself....
No problem. Here's the real tracklist and some explanation for each track:
1. Chinese Democracy (leaked as live version, demo, and now released as official single on iTunes)
2. Scraped (not leaked/played live yet)
3. Shackler's Revenge (leaked as demo, released with Rock Band 2)
4. Street Of Dreams (believed to be "The Blues", which was leaked in demo form and played live)
5. If The World (leaked as demo, plays during end credits of "Body of Lies")
6. Better (leaked as demo & played live)
7. This I Love (not leaked/played live yet)
8. There Was A Time (leaked as demo & played live)
9. Riad N' The Bedouins (leaked as demo & played live)
10. Sorry (not leaked/played live yet)
11. I.R.S. (leaked as demo & played live)
12. Catcher (leaked as demo, not played live)
13. Madagascar (leaked as demo & played live)
14. Prostitute (believed to be "Song #2" that leaked a couple months back)
At face value, it may seem that most of the album has leaked. But, many of these demos are shit quality and have been changed (vocals and music), some even have leaked in different versions. Hope this clears some stuff up.
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^^^^
try this: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=194619945
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Nah, this is a bunch of demos, mixed with old tracks that arent on the album ("oh my god" and "silkworms"). All of these versions are the same demos that leaked months ago on the Antiquiet blog. Some are even mislabeled ("This I Love" is actually "Prostitute").
Are you sure? Good!!!! I was really disappointed with what I heard!!!
I'm happy now, good looking Pacman
can anyone give me a link to buy the single on i-tunes? i can't find it myself....
No problem. Here's the real tracklist and some explanation for each track:
1. Chinese Democracy (leaked as live version, demo, and now released as official single on iTunes)
2. Scraped (not leaked/played live yet)
3. Shackler's Revenge (leaked as demo, released with Rock Band 2)
4. Street Of Dreams (believed to be "The Blues", which was leaked in demo form and played live)
5. If The World (leaked as demo, plays during end credits of "Body of Lies")
6. Better (leaked as demo & played live)
7. This I Love (not leaked/played live yet)
8. There Was A Time (leaked as demo & played live)
9. Riad N' The Bedouins (leaked as demo & played live)
10. Sorry (not leaked/played live yet)
11. I.R.S. (leaked as demo & played live)
12. Catcher (leaked as demo, not played live)
13. Madagascar (leaked as demo & played live)
14. Prostitute (believed to be "Song #2" that leaked a couple months back)
At face value, it may seem that most of the album has leaked. But, many of these demos are shit quality and have been changed (vocals and music), some even have leaked in different versions. Hope this clears some stuff up.
Self Made Ridah --- just search "Chinese Democracy" and it should pop right up. Shit, when I bought it, it was on the first page of the iTunes store.
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Thanks To Both Of Ya'll, I Got That Muthafucka ;)
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Thanks To Both Of Ya'll, I Got That Muthafucka ;)
No problem man. Whatchu think bout the song?
Also, here's a link to sample the album from some website, looks like from the Netherlands but you can see where to get the samples from pretty clearly (jacked from a Guns N Roses forum)....http://www.vanleest.nl/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/FreeRecordShop-VL_B2C_NL-Site/nl_NL/-/EUR/ViewFas-Detail;pgid=_7eU_I2hMyRSR0IFdajTqbSh0000DIcgbsSU?fh_Params=fh_sort_by%3D-popularity_frs_vl%252c-popularity%252c-releasedate%26method%3DgetAll%26fh_search%3Dchinese%2Bdemocracy%26fh_secondid%3D9686785%26fh_lister_pos%3D0%26fh_location%3D%252f%252ffrs%252fnl_NL%252f_shop%253e%257bvanleest%257d%26fh_eds%3D%25c3%259f%26fh_refview%3Dsearch%26fh_reftheme%3D10&SubCat=01 (http://www.vanleest.nl/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/FreeRecordShop-VL_B2C_NL-Site/nl_NL/-/EUR/ViewFas-Detail;pgid=_7eU_I2hMyRSR0IFdajTqbSh0000DIcgbsSU?fh_Params=fh_sort_by%3D-popularity_frs_vl%252c-popularity%252c-releasedate%26method%3DgetAll%26fh_search%3Dchinese%2Bdemocracy%26fh_secondid%3D9686785%26fh_lister_pos%3D0%26fh_location%3D%252f%252ffrs%252fnl_NL%252f_shop%253e%257bvanleest%257d%26fh_eds%3D%25c3%259f%26fh_refview%3Dsearch%26fh_reftheme%3D10&SubCat=01)
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Thanks To Both Of Ya'll, I Got That Muthafucka ;)
No problem man. Whatchu think bout the song?
Also, here's a link to sample the album from some website, looks like from the Netherlands but you can see where to get the samples from pretty clearly (jacked from a Guns N Roses forum)....http://www.vanleest.nl/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/FreeRecordShop-VL_B2C_NL-Site/nl_NL/-/EUR/ViewFas-Detail;pgid=_7eU_I2hMyRSR0IFdajTqbSh0000DIcgbsSU?fh_Params=fh_sort_by%3D-popularity_frs_vl%252c-popularity%252c-releasedate%26method%3DgetAll%26fh_search%3Dchinese%2Bdemocracy%26fh_secondid%3D9686785%26fh_lister_pos%3D0%26fh_location%3D%252f%252ffrs%252fnl_NL%252f_shop%253e%257bvanleest%257d%26fh_eds%3D%25c3%259f%26fh_refview%3Dsearch%26fh_reftheme%3D10&SubCat=01 (http://www.vanleest.nl/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/FreeRecordShop-VL_B2C_NL-Site/nl_NL/-/EUR/ViewFas-Detail;pgid=_7eU_I2hMyRSR0IFdajTqbSh0000DIcgbsSU?fh_Params=fh_sort_by%3D-popularity_frs_vl%252c-popularity%252c-releasedate%26method%3DgetAll%26fh_search%3Dchinese%2Bdemocracy%26fh_secondid%3D9686785%26fh_lister_pos%3D0%26fh_location%3D%252f%252ffrs%252fnl_NL%252f_shop%253e%257bvanleest%257d%26fh_eds%3D%25c3%259f%26fh_refview%3Dsearch%26fh_reftheme%3D10&SubCat=01)
The Song Is Amazin, I Had All These Songs From Them Since 2003 They Leaked Live From Their Failed Tours And Demo Wise A Year Later In Bad Quality Of Course....But Never Equal To The Real Guns N Roses
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Better is a jam
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The song prostitude is fucking good.
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I waaaaaaaaant the whooooooole albuuuuum........
Is this why they releasing it on Sunday, so there's less chance of it sitting there in the back, waiting to get leaked...
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I am soooo excited for this :rock: :rock: :rock:
Best Buy is saying it is out on the 23rd, how can that be when thats a Sunday?
Its purely for marketing. I believe Best Buy has the exclusive release.
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I am soooo excited for this :rock: :rock: :rock:
Best Buy is saying it is out on the 23rd, how can that be when thats a Sunday?
Its purely for marketing. I believe Best Buy has the exclusive release.
Do Best Buy get their CD's shipped to the store on Sundays? Could be an anti-pirating move..
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Closer.....
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cant wait, IM bumping this all next weekl. IM getting it sunday and my boy at the gym already said this is on rotation.
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heard the end of 'better' on the radio the other day, sounded dope,
chill
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It Really Has Leaked Guys, The Album Is A Certified Banger...Can't Post Links Cause The Feds Are Watching No Lie... :-\
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It Really Has Leaked Guys, The Album Is A Certified Banger...Can't Post Links Cause The Feds Are Watching No Lie... :-\
u serious, that's crazy, it's available on albumhunt
chill