West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: godlike25 on October 25, 2008, 10:59:29 PM
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I iant seen that shit on BET or TRL or anywhere, where are those records playing on the radio? How can u drop an album without Having your record play on the radio? How will new fans know that they are comming out?
Unless 500 000 people all log onto Dubcnn and know who Jay and Omar are, there is no chance they are ever gonna push any units,.
Its a Wrap for them both, i guess thats the reason Their record Labels aint Pushing Physical ALbums, coz they usually wait for Spins and Audience impressions, and shits are nowwhere.
Usually labels COunt Spins and Peoples Feedback, on the radio, MTV, BET and all and than release the albums, thats why Games Pain was so Successfull and They Pushed LAX and Dope Boys, if Pain was not playing, THey would Push him back, like they did With NELLY.
Look at Gunit, Their shit didnt get plaied and they flopped
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You have to look at someone like Flo Rida...he sold millions of ringtones...but no album sales...
why? because kids will buy the ringtone because they aren;t hip on the create a ringtone thing "YET"
Omar Cruz's single, G Malones singles are hot..but to break a new artist these days with no BUDGET is near impossible..this will be a trend for a while until we figure out a way to sell music again..
So So Def just aligned with " Tag Body Spray " to bring out an artist..
The music will probaly be free with a can of Special Editon $20 sprays...
The artist gets a small % of the spray sales...meaning that the album can be given away for free because it is something physical with demand...
That album will go Platinum on deoderant sales and everyone will get paid...
We need more deals like this..
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what he hell yall talking about...yall need to get out to different places because im in atlanta n so far ive have heard jay rock song n g malone play on the radio so yall need to stop hating n support this artist u dummies...get out of europe n yall might hear the song u white boys...
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I iant seen that shit on BET or TRL or anywhere,
j rock on trl ? :D
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I iant seen that shit on BET or TRL or anywhere, where are those records playing on the radio? How can u drop an album without Having your record play on the radio? How will new fans know that they are comming out?
Unless 500 000 people all log onto Dubcnn and know who Jay and Omar are, there is no chance they are ever gonna push any units,.
Its a Wrap for them both, i guess thats the reason Their record Labels aint Pushing Physical ALbums, coz they usually wait for Spins and Audience impressions, and shits are nowwhere.
Usually labels COunt Spins and Peoples Feedback, on the radio, MTV, BET and all and than release the albums, thats why Games Pain was so Successfull and They Pushed LAX and Dope Boys, if Pain was not playing, THey would Push him back, like they did With NELLY.
Look at Gunit, Their shit didnt get plaied and they flopped
Well it's definitely about politics that most peope wouldn't be aware of. Even when an artist is signed and has a single out, they have a LOT of things going against them. Truth is, just ass aamusic said...many new artists get radio/TV play, but don't sell anything. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lil Mama and Estelle didn't sell anything first week...M.I.A.'s single is years old, and when that album dropped, it didn't sell much of anything, and now, it's too late for the album itself to get major sales. Soulja Boy had one of the five most played songs this decade, and it took him a while to go platinum.
It's lose-lose for many of our artists now. Unless you have a groundbreaking single, or something that comes out the gate and has major appeal, it's hard to catch ears and receive major play. On the flipside, even if you have that, it doesn't guarantee stability in the game and album sales...how many one hit, or even one "kinda-hit" wonders have we seen come and go? Is that what we really want West Coast rappers to be about?
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jay rock will never blow up
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g malones video has been playd on BET
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That g.malone certified deserved wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more spins then what it got. I havent heard haters not really interested in hearing anymore wayne collabs right now.
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Im pretty sure they didnt just put it only on dubcnn.
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why in the hell would ANYONE expect them to play omar cruz on BET? i havent watched that channel in years but i know rap city got canceled, yes? and you aint seen that shit on trl cuz trl is canceled as well, not to mention trl never really played rap videos anyway....his video came only came out what, two weeks ago? its doing what its supposed to do on mtv3, and thats really all anyone can expect at this point from him, i mean c'mon, he's mexican and from the west coast....thats two strikes against him right there
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g malones video has been playd on BET
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omar got his single on itunes i wonder how much that has sold ???
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why in the hell would ANYONE expect them to play omar cruz on BET? i havent watched that channel in years but i know rap city got canceled, yes? and you aint seen that shit on trl cuz trl is canceled as well, not to mention trl never really played rap videos anyway....his video came only came out what, two weeks ago? its doing what its supposed to do on mtv3, and thats really all anyone can expect at this point from him, i mean c'mon, he's mexican and from the west coast....thats two strikes against him right there
yea funny how racism is somewhat still relevant.
what he hell yall talking about...yall need to get out to different places because im in atlanta n so far ive have heard jay rock song n g malone play on the radio so yall need to stop hating n support this artist u dummies...get out of europe n yall might hear the song u white boys...
juz because they get radio play doesnt mean their sellin or their gettin nationwide media coverage. radio stations are local...
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Why do you care if shit flops? As long as the shit is hot it don't matter...Stop bein a bitch about sales
U Sound like a girl "is it safe to say those videos flopped" stop bein gay man, your weak....you talkin bout other niggas videos floppin but what are you doin? sittin on a DAMN COMPUTER..
Jay Rocks shit was HEAT.
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Why do you care if shit flops? As long as the shit is hot it don't matter...Stop bein a bitch about sales
U Sound like a girl "is it safe to say those videos flopped" stop bein gay man, your weak....you talkin bout other niggas videos floppin but what are you doin? sittin on a DAMN COMPUTER..
Jay Rocks shit was HEAT.
word 8)
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omar got his single on itunes i wonder how much that has sold ???
I have digital downloads TOp 200 weekly chart and Omar aint there, so i guess less than 3000..
Sorry guys, i relaly aint hating, i am just saying, these guys need to really make something special to get recognised, they really aint getting no exposure.
And Dude that Said that BET or TRL dont play any Rap songs
Games Pain was #1 Most Played Video on TV, It was All over BET and TRL and Vibe TV 2, My Life was #1 Most Played Too, All over TRL, there is still a LINK TO VOTE FOR THE SONGS U WANNA HEAR ON TRL.
Dope Boys was All over Vibe TV, I got a link, It still gets the Spins.
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Jay Rock is getting good exposure, doesnt matter if hes not all over the radio or not...I havent heard 1 person diss Jay Rock or who hasnt liked Jay Rock on the internet
Hes got a lot of Fans and when his album drops, I'm definitely buyin that shit
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3000 downloads ??? hard to belive - DOWN AKA KILO ( lean like a cholo ) did 150 ,000 downloads on his song
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3000 downloads ??? hard to belive - DOWN AKA KILO ( lean like a cholo ) did 150 ,000 downloads on his song
lol, and thats from where? his Mouth?
Yo, my song did 500 000 downloads, buy my shit.
T.Is Songs No Matter What Did 170 000, Ready For whatever and Bunch other songs did 50 000, Games Camera phone did 30 000, Games Pain did 23 000, State of Emergency did 3500 downloads,
I dunno where you got your info from, my Comes from Billboard, top 200 Digital Downloads, They Count 95% of all Digital Download Sources like amazon,itunes and all them stores
Here is the Coverage of Tracks
http://pulsemusic.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=gmn&action=display&thread=61760
Weeky Top 200 digital downloads, 50 cent aint done 100 000 with Get Up shit, shit flopped, You expect me to belive your chicano dude did 150 000 somewhere??? Where is that? Rapidshare loL?
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3000 downloads ??? hard to belive - DOWN AKA KILO ( lean like a cholo ) did 150 ,000 downloads on his song
lol, and thats from where? his Mouth?
Yo, my song did 500 000 downloads, buy my shit.
T.Is Songs No Matter What Did 170 000, Ready For whatever and Bunch other songs did 50 000, Games Camera phone did 30 000, Games Pain did 23 000, State of Emergency did 3500 downloads,
I dunno where you got your info from, my Comes from Billboard, top 200 Digital Downloads, They Count 95% of all Digital Download Sources like amazon,itunes and all them stores
Here is the Coverage of Tracks
http://pulsemusic.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=gmn&action=display&thread=61760
Weeky Top 200 digital downloads, 50 cent aint done 100 000 with Get Up shit, shit flopped, You expect me to belive your chicano dude did 150 000 somewhere??? Where is that? Rapidshare loL?
see if you could get the real lean like a cholo numbers for itunes
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i mean c'mon, he's mexican and from the west coast....thats two strikes against him right there
The very same strikes that got South Park Mexican's ass locked behind the bars of Garza Unit. Because on the third strike, he was convicted for sexual assault on a minor.
I know Omar is too smart to make a move like that. But there are other ways that can still get him struck out from mainstream success.
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Didn't make it through this thread completely, but you have to remember a few things. The first is that G Malone's video does get played on BET. In fact, it's one of the videos you can vote for on 106 And Park's website. Also, when G Malone had "Certified" in circulation, that video had gotten play on BET as well. As far as Jay Rock goes and this TRL talk, we'll never see any of them on TRL anymore, cause they cancelled it. However, if it wasn't, you still wouldn't see it. TRL only played Top 40 type music and was not very supportive of rappers with a more "gangster" image. Remember, that show was very clean cut. Also, Jay Rock's video is still new don't forget. Sometimes you see a video on the net and won't see it in any rotation on TV for a month. I think they can still push it to MTVs other channels and show's like BET Now, etc.
So, I mean, I don't think Malone flopped completely. Yeah it isn't making Bow Wow and Lil Wayne rotations, but it's getting attention. As far as Jay Rock goes, in all fairness give it a little more time before we consider it a complete flop.
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as for omar cruz, his video is for exposure and hes got over 100.000+ views on youtube and he's beginning to make a name for himself! solely!
JAY ROCK! jay rock is the first video i EVER seen on worldstarhiphop.com with 1 million + views - current views: Total Views 1.342.209 and its steady getting spins across the nation! and worldwide exposure! jay rock is steady becoming the next big thing, and he's going on tour with game too soon!! so he's onw more of a figure then he ever was!
so instead of this " Omar Cruz,G Malone and Jay Rocks Videos Flopped? " why dont you vote for them so they dont flop:
http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/106andpark/106_vote_poll.htm
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as for omar cruz, his video is for exposure and hes got over 100.000+ views on youtube and he's beginning to make a name for himself! solely!
JAY ROCK! jay rock is the first video i EVER seen on worldstarhiphop.com with 1 million + views - current views: Total Views 1.342.209 and its steady getting spins across the nation! and worldwide exposure! jay rock is steady becoming the next big thing, and he's going on tour with game too soon!! so he's onw more of a figure then he ever was!
so instead of this " Omar Cruz,G Malone and Jay Rocks Videos Flopped? " why dont you vote for them so they dont flop:
http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/106andpark/106_vote_poll.htm
1)youtube aint shit, lol, David Banner and All them Bun B dudes gets 1 million plus views, and they aint shit, Lol, hot Rod Video had 1 million views on WSH, and what? you fuking stupid fuck
2)Jay Rocks Single has not been played once on Any radio, do u want the charts? I got detailed charts for Urban and Rhythmic, nowhere, What Exposure u talking about???
3)Who said that Jay Rock is Going on TOur with Game? he did? In that lil Video? That aint shit, Game is doing UK tour By Himself, Jay Rock aint oing there.
So, Mostwanted, Get off the nuts fagget.
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Its gonna get real bad now that they cancelled rapcity...that was one of the few outlets on tv 4 videos such as the one yall are debating about
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as for omar cruz, his video is for exposure and hes got over 100.000+ views on youtube and he's beginning to make a name for himself! solely!
JAY ROCK! jay rock is the first video i EVER seen on worldstarhiphop.com with 1 million + views - current views: Total Views 1.342.209
WOW. :o THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT :o
Jesus christ! youtube and worldstarhiphop.com :o DAAAAAAAAAAMN :o HOLY SHIT!
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as for omar cruz, his video is for exposure and hes got over 100.000+ views on youtube and he's beginning to make a name for himself! solely!
JAY ROCK! jay rock is the first video i EVER seen on worldstarhiphop.com with 1 million + views - current views: Total Views 1.342.209
WOW. :o THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT :o
Jesus christ! youtube and worldstarhiphop.com :o DAAAAAAAAAAMN :o HOLY SHIT!
fuck you talking bout I've seen more videos on worldstar than I've seen on TV because i don't watch B.E.T Or MTV i don't think you got any clue how heavy wordstarhiphop is with rap fans... mostly everybody that listens to hip hop music and got a computer know about WSHH don't get it twisted if you notice there's more adds on that site even popping up on the videos while you watching it that's because companies see how heavy that site is with the hip hop community so there paying to get there adds up on there as promo....
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as for omar cruz, his video is for exposure and hes got over 100.000+ views on youtube and he's beginning to make a name for himself! solely!
JAY ROCK! jay rock is the first video i EVER seen on worldstarhiphop.com with 1 million + views - current views: Total Views 1.342.209
WOW. :o THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT :o
Jesus christ! youtube and worldstarhiphop.com :o DAAAAAAAAAAMN :o HOLY SHIT!
first of all you dumb motherfucker, sites like youtube and wshh get more views then if the videos were playing on BET! and what the fuck do you expect a video to achieve?? its there so it can be VIEWED! im sorry if you thought they would of sold 10 million records and won 5 grammys each by now! maybe thats how it works in EUROPE! but not in the real world
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Ya'll are setting the bar too high for these artists. No artist is going to blow up from the West Coast in this day and age. The West Coast has to build from the ground up, not try to jump to the top. Omar, Malone and Jay all got some level of exspure which is good (especially Malone getting spin on BET), but it's just the first step. The West Coast is going to gradually build up success if it does at all. It's sad that some artists spend so much money and effort to receive what comes easier for artists from other regions, but you take what (or as much as) you can get.
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as for omar cruz, his video is for exposure and hes got over 100.000+ views on youtube and he's beginning to make a name for himself! solely!
JAY ROCK! jay rock is the first video i EVER seen on worldstarhiphop.com with 1 million + views - current views: Total Views 1.342.209
WOW. :o THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT :o
Jesus christ! youtube and worldstarhiphop.com :o DAAAAAAAAAAMN :o HOLY SHIT!
first of all you dumb motherfucker, sites like youtube and wshh get more views then if the videos were playing on BET! and what the fuck do you expect a video to achieve?? its there so it can be VIEWED! im sorry if you thought they would of sold 10 million records and won 5 grammys each by now! maybe thats how it works in EUROPE! but not in the real world
uh,you live in a land with no story and culture and you talk about europe like not the real world ? you are the dumb motherfucker
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as for omar cruz, his video is for exposure and hes got over 100.000+ views on youtube and he's beginning to make a name for himself! solely!
JAY ROCK! jay rock is the first video i EVER seen on worldstarhiphop.com with 1 million + views - current views: Total Views 1.342.209
WOW. :o THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT :o
Jesus christ! youtube and worldstarhiphop.com :o DAAAAAAAAAAMN :o HOLY SHIT!
first of all you dumb motherfucker, sites like youtube and wshh get more views then if the videos were playing on BET! and what the fuck do you expect a video to achieve?? its there so it can be VIEWED! im sorry if you thought they would of sold 10 million records and won 5 grammys each by now! maybe thats how it works in EUROPE! but not in the real world
uh,you live in a land with no story and culture and you talk about europe like not the real world ? you are the dumb motherfucker
LMFAO! what the fuck are you doing on this site?
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HERE'S MY SHIT ON THIS SUBJECT,
UGOTA STOP THINKIN LIKE ITS 1993 AND START THINKIN LIKE ITS 2008 GOIN ONTO 2009
LIFE REVOLVES ROUND THE INTERNET NOW FOR THE MOST PART,
ULOOK GO 2 1993 PLUS, AND YEA UNEEDED TV PLAY N RADIO PLAY,
NOT SAYIN UDONT KNOW, BUTTTT
IT IS DIFF NOW
PPL LAUGHIN@ OH HE GOT 1MILLION UTUBE HITS, GUESS WHAT??? ITS 2008!!! UR SUPPOSED 2 MARKET URSELF AND GET XPOSURE A DIFFERNT WAY
JUS LIKE ALBUMS RNT SELLIN BUT ITUNES, RINGTONES ETC R,
PPL LAUGH @ OH SO N SO HAD 300 000 DOWNLOADS OFF HIS ALBUM, OR MIXTAPE OR WHATEVER, PPL RNT BUYIN MANY CDS NOW, THEY R DOWNLOADIN, SO UGOTA MARKET YOUR DOWNLOADS INA WAY 2 MAKE $$$
ANYWAY, LAUGHIN@ GOIN PLATINUM ON DEODORANT SALES HAHA DOPE
DPGC23
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the music industry lost faith in the west :-\
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as for omar cruz, his video is for exposure and hes got over 100.000+ views on youtube and he's beginning to make a name for himself! solely!
JAY ROCK! jay rock is the first video i EVER seen on worldstarhiphop.com with 1 million + views - current views: Total Views 1.342.209 and its steady getting spins across the nation! and worldwide exposure! jay rock is steady becoming the next big thing, and he's going on tour with game too soon!! so he's onw more of a figure then he ever was!
so instead of this " Omar Cruz,G Malone and Jay Rocks Videos Flopped? " why dont you vote for them so they dont flop:
http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/106andpark/106_vote_poll.htm
1)youtube aint shit, lol, David Banner and All them Bun B dudes gets 1 million plus views, and they aint shit, Lol, hot Rod Video had 1 million views on WSH, and what? you fuking stupid fuck
2)Jay Rocks Single has not been played once on Any radio, do u want the charts? I got detailed charts for Urban and Rhythmic, nowhere, What Exposure u talking about???
3)Who said that Jay Rock is Going on TOur with Game? he did? In that lil Video? That aint shit, Game is doing UK tour By Himself, Jay Rock aint oing there.
So, Mostwanted, Get off the nuts fagget.
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do more research jay rock has just started working his single this month he has over 400spins on the record without working it . lets see wut happens now that he has clearance and can work it now. im hearing video will be on bet starting the middle of nov so keep your eyes open jay rock is on the come up..im his biggest fan
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as for omar cruz, his video is for exposure and hes got over 100.000+ views on youtube and he's beginning to make a name for himself! solely!
JAY ROCK! jay rock is the first video i EVER seen on worldstarhiphop.com with 1 million + views - current views: Total Views 1.342.209
WOW. :o THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT :o
Jesus christ! youtube and worldstarhiphop.com :o DAAAAAAAAAAMN :o HOLY SHIT!
first of all you dumb motherfucker, sites like youtube and wshh get more views then if the videos were playing on BET! and what the fuck do you expect a video to achieve?? its there so it can be VIEWED! im sorry if you thought they would of sold 10 million records and won 5 grammys each by now! maybe thats how it works in EUROPE! but not in the real world
uh,you live in a land with no story and culture and you talk about europe like not the real world ? you are the dumb motherfucker
LMFAO! what the fuck are you doing on this site?
i'm tryin to form a net gang
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2)Jay Rocks Single has not been played once on Any radio, do u want the charts? I got detailed charts for Urban and Rhythmic, nowhere, What Exposure u talking about???
not hating homie but your "detailed charts" are flawed, because i have hit that play button on J Rock tracks personally. Now real shit we are a small station in a small area, BUT we are a monitored station so the charts that you have would show the song played, and this has been happening for a couple months.
Now as far as the topic goes, i dont know if the videos flopped. As far as tv goes, if you are on the west you really dont get a whole lot of rotation on BET or MTV, that is not to say you dont get any, because i have seen west videos on there in the past. I just dont think the love is there, i saw Snoop on Rap City one day and his Sexual Seduction track was doing real well at the time, but they couldnt even show the video. I am not a fan of that track or that video personally, but this dude is hosting the show. The least you can do is show his video. The problem that the west is having right now is that the record labels have made it damn near impossible to succeed. The record label will not promote you unless you are getting radio play, and the radio stations wont play you unless the record label is pushing you. The shit is loose loose for an artist. With that being said, the only way to really break into things is with youtube and all the other bullshit people laugh at. Really if you are doing a million views on youtube, someone is taking notice.