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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Big PaybaCC on October 31, 2008, 11:00:37 AM
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I NOTICED ALOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ACCUSE CERTAIN RAPPERS OF BEING WACC,NOW I'M NOT GOING TO GET SPECIFIC BUT THE RAPPERS THAT GET ACCUSED OF THIS THE MOST ARE FAR FROM WACC,I SHOULD KNOW CUZ I'M A MC MY SELF AND I KNOW GOOD LYRICS WHEN I HEAR THEM,NOW IS IT CUZ YOU DONT LIKE THE CERTAIN RAPPER FOR PERSONAL REASONS,OR MAYBE ITS FUN TO JUMP ON THE BAND WAGON AND CALL'EM WACC CUZ EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING IT,OR THE CERTAIN RAPPER HAS DISSED YOUR FAVORITE RAPPER SO THEREFORE YOU THINK BY CALLING THEM WACC THAT YOU ARE SOMEHOW GETTING EVEN WITH THEM,OR HAVE THEY MADE MORE BAD SONGS THAN GOOD ONES,NOW ALL IM ASKING IS WHAT MAKES A WACC RAPPER??? IS IT LYRICS,CONCEPT,FLOW,VOCABULARY,BEAT SELECTION,ATTITUDE,LET ME KNOW...SERIOUSLY!!! CUZ WHAT U MIGHT THINK IS THRASH,I MIGHT THINK IS GENIUS OR VICE VERSA...SERIOUS DEBATERS ONLY NO SHIT TALKING PLEASE AND ALL SERIOUS OPINIONS SHOULD BE RESPECTED!!! BY THE WAY HAPPY HALLOWEEN AND MY BIRTHDAY IS TOMORROW FOR THOSE WHO WANNA SEND PRESENTS LOL!!! THERES ONE WEST...B.A.Y.M.A.A.C!!!
"OH YEAH" JUST CUZ U MIGHT NOT LIKE A CERTAIN SONG THAT DOES'NT MAKE IT WACC...
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PAYBACC...
To answer your question from my perspective. SPI and you get hated on because of the Game beef. Game has a huge commercial following and people are gonna follow the leader. I see alot of people dissing you and Spider in here allll the time. Most are repeat offenders and it seems like a game they play. Sometimes when someone says something ignorant, the greatest form of control is silence. True Story.
People need a reply to feed the hate, but if you take away the reply..and let them do their thing and hate...they will eventually get bored and start looking stupid...
Spider shows through his persona that he is a ryder, loyal to his circle. If he's with you, he rides for the cause. He dissed Game out of loyalty and frankly in my opinion, Game was dissing 50, so why not capitilize on that oppurtunity...
I like Spi, I like Game...
Tell SPI, "True West" was one of the dopest tracks he has put out...
Stay focused!! Haters are always gonna be there...but to maintain control...you gotta smile and keep moving man...
I've learned in my short life so far that man in general, are haters, out for themselves, and will smile to your face and cut you down behind your back..
Surround yourself with good people, be good as much as possible and Karma will serve you right...
PREAAAAAAAAAAACH!!!! hahahaha\
WEST WEST Y'ALL
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Like dude said above fans pick sides...
but a lot of people let these online websites dicktate who they like, and some of these websites pick sides...
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what makes a wacc rapper? spider loc.
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JUST SO YA'LL DONT GET IT CONFUSED IM NOT SPEAKING ON ME OR SPIDER IN GENERAL,I WANNA KNOW WHAT MAKE A NIGGA WACC,WHO EVER IT IS!!! I PREFER INTELLIGENT ANSWERS CUZ I SEE THERES ALREADY A GOOF BALL ON HERE,IF U CANT EXPLAIN WHY IN DETAIL THEN U SHOULDNT SAY SHIT...
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^ I would probably read your posts if you turned caps lock off.
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no concept songs!
saying the same thing bacc 2 bacc!(lacc of vocab)
using the same style and being scared to try new shit!
NIGGA im the hardest that ever lived rhymes!(its alot of real gangstaz, but aint no one killed a million people, so every song aint gotta be murder)
lacc of INDIVIDUALITY!
BARS but no SWAGGER! and vise versa..
Rapping Gangsta, but dressing like a faggot,
if a nigga can spit dope as fucc, but cant make a song worth listing to.
just my opinion on some things i think = a WACC RAPPER,..
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Rapping Gangsta, but dressing like a faggot
I can't really see how a rapper dresses influences his rapping.
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What makes a wack rapper? Hot dollar and problem
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;D ;D @ the B day shout out for gifts ;D on some real shit paybacc is the only nigga thats on here and rolls with spider than i can stand the rest of y'all SPI followers are some fucking lames real shit
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
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Like dude said above fans pick sides...
but a lot of people let these online websites dicktate who they like, and some of these websites pick sides...
THEY REALLY DO..some sites takes sides..
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
this aint no baymaac discussion,this for all rappers period!!! and by us being garbage,fool please...i will rap circles around you and any body you can get or that would take your fade point blank period,then i would beat the shit outta you for wasting my time... u aint never heard me spit wacc in ya life and cant nobody on here say they have,u aint gotta like me but u will respect me...this topic doesnt call for any names to be mentioned cuz what u might not like the next man will...i asking for specific things that make you a wacc rapper... horrible lyrics hah!!! find one...i bet u aint even heard me or anyone from baymaac rapping,u just on here hating cuz your mom aint gon have a job no more after halloween ;D
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
this aint no baymaac discussion,this for all rappers period!!! and by us being garbage,fool please...i will rap circles around you and any body you can get or that would take your fade point blank period,then i would beat the shit outta you for wasting my time... u aint never heard me spit wacc in ya life and cant nobody on here say they have,u aint gotta like me but u will respect me...this topic doesnt call for any names to be mentioned cuz what u might not like the next man will...i asking for specific things that make you a wacc rapper... horrible lyrics hah!!! find one...i bet u aint even heard me or anyone from baymaac rapping,u just on here hating cuz your mom aint gon have a job no more after halloween ;D
I wsnt talking shit directly but now i am... Your a stright up clown homie, and your raps are garbage period. Get over, you dont have a carrer in rap go back to fliping burgers. You fake ass gangsta. Shit im more gangsta than you. Ive been selling oz. of kush the past 6 years, what the fuck have you done? And i dont rap, but if that was my job, You can bet your ass I would coming up with better lyrics than you and spider. I dont like your music NOR will I respect you. How can you respect a fake gansta coming on the net talking all hard, like YOU NEED TO RESPECT ME!, Fuck outta here. Im done with this clown
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
this aint no baymaac discussion,this for all rappers period!!! and by us being garbage,fool please...i will rap circles around you and any body you can get or that would take your fade point blank period,then i would beat the shit outta you for wasting my time... u aint never heard me spit wacc in ya life and cant nobody on here say they have,u aint gotta like me but u will respect me...this topic doesnt call for any names to be mentioned cuz what u might not like the next man will...i asking for specific things that make you a wacc rapper... horrible lyrics hah!!! find one...i bet u aint even heard me or anyone from baymaac rapping,u just on here hating cuz your mom aint gon have a job no more after halloween ;D
I wsnt talking shit directly but now i am... Your a stright up clown homie, and your raps are garbage period. Get over, you dont have a carrer in rap go back to fliping burgers. You fake ass gangsta. Shit im more gangsta than you. Ive been selling oz. of kush the past 6 years, what the fuck have you done? And i dont rap, but if that was my job, You can bet your ass I would coming up with better lyrics than you and spider. I dont like your music NOR will I respect you. How can you respect a fake gansta coming on the net talking all hard, like YOU NEED TO RESPECT ME!, Fuck outta here. Im done with this clown
u made ma laff like real loud...he's gangsta cuz he sold ounces of kush for 6 years!!! quote something that i said that was garbage,dont worry i'll wait...U WILL RESPECT ME PUNK OR I'LL KICC YOUR ASS!!! LOL...anyway u should have stucc to the topic fucc boy!!! BOW THAT SHIT DOWN THEN...
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what makes a wack rapper .....lemme think...... goes looking for a chicano rap track ;D ;D
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what makes a wack rapper .....lemme think...... goes looking for a chicano rap track ;D ;D
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Damn my nigga did you see what you just typed up???????? You been sellin this and that for the past 6 years. Why throw your shit out there like that? You never know
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a swag(wack) rapper usually has this in there content regularly
picks shitty beats constantly
has empty bars(meaning has no similies, metaphors or punchlines or can't spray a story very well on a constant basis, he's or she's bars don't drop, repetively)
similies, metaphors or punchlines don't make any sense, constantly
has a swag flow
has a swag voice
if you have any of these elements in your flex, constantly, it means you are a swag mc, a swag rapper, truss, this is what a swag or wack rapper is in my eyes and ears, for real
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Repetitive lyrical content, no personal style, weak ass punchlines, elementary wordplay=wack ass rappers. The delivery can be hot but if you're not sayin nothin worth listenin to then Im cool.
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
this aint no baymaac discussion,this for all rappers period!!! and by us being garbage,fool please...i will rap circles around you and any body you can get or that would take your fade point blank period,then i would beat the shit outta you for wasting my time... u aint never heard me spit wacc in ya life and cant nobody on here say they have,u aint gotta like me but u will respec
t me...this topic doesnt call for any names to be mentioned cuz what u might not like the next man will...i asking for specific things that make you a wacc rapper... horrible lyrics hah!!! find one...i bet u aint even heard me or anyone from baymaac rapping,u just on here hating cuz your mom aint gon have a job no more after halloween ;D
I wsnt talking shit directly but now i am... Your a stright up clown homie, and your raps are garbage period. Get over, you dont have a carrer in rap go back to fliping burgers. You fake ass gangsta. Shit im more gangsta than you. Ive been selling oz. of kush the past 6 years, what the fuck have you done? And i dont rap, but if that was my job, You can bet your ass I would coming up with better lyrics than you and spider. I dont like your music NOR will I respect you. How can you respect a fake gansta coming on the net talking all hard, like YOU NEED TO RESPECT ME!, Fuck outta here. Im done with this clown
Why couldn't you just reply with a valid reason of what makes a rapper wack instead of goin through all of this shit? It's a simple question but you came with the bull shit like you just couldn't help yourself.
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PAYBACC...
To answer your question from my perspective. SPI and you get hated on because of the Game beef. Game has a huge commercial following and people are gonna follow the leader. I see alot of people dissing you and Spider in here allll the time. Most are repeat offenders and it seems like a game they play. Sometimes when someone says something ignorant, the greatest form of control is silence. True Story.
People need a reply to feed the hate, but if you take away the reply..and let them do their thing and hate...they will eventually get bored and start looking stupid...
Spider shows through his persona that he is a ryder, loyal to his circle. If he's with you, he rides for the cause. He dissed Game out of loyalty and frankly in my opinion, Game was dissing 50, so why not capitilize on that oppurtunity...
I like Spi, I like Game...
Tell SPI, "True West" was one of the dopest tracks he has put out...
Stay focused!! Haters are always gonna be there...but to maintain control...you gotta smile and keep moving man...
I've learned in my short life so far that man in general, are haters, out for themselves, and will smile to your face and cut you down behind your back..
Surround yourself with good people, be good as much as possible and Karma will serve you right...
PREAAAAAAAAAAACH!!!! hahahaha\
WEST WEST Y'ALL
Wrong, Nobody is taking sides, yukmouth dissed Game and and others still supported him and his shit, i even bought his tapes thru myspace.
Spider Loc is truly wack,
PLEase, For the Love of Christ and His Father Jehova, tell me if this aint Toattly Joke-trash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kCVZtoCnz8
Worst Rap Song I have ever Heard and Many More, He is So BAAAAAAAAD
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MC Eiht and Spider Loc
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
this aint no baymaac discussion,this for all rappers period!!! and by us being garbage,fool please...i will rap circles around you and any body you can get or that would take your fade point blank period,then i would beat the shit outta you for wasting my time... u aint never heard me spit wacc in ya life and cant nobody on here say they have,u aint gotta like me but u will respect me...this topic doesnt call for any names to be mentioned cuz what u might not like the next man will...i asking for specific things that make you a wacc rapper... horrible lyrics hah!!! find one...i bet u aint even heard me or anyone from baymaac rapping,u just on here hating cuz your mom aint gon have a job no more after halloween ;D
I wsnt talking shit directly but now i am... Your a stright up clown homie, and your raps are garbage period. Get over, you dont have a carrer in rap go back to fliping burgers. You fake ass gangsta. Shit im more gangsta than you. Ive been selling oz. of kush the past 6 years, what the fuck have you done? And i dont rap, but if that was my job, You can bet your ass I would coming up with better lyrics than you and spider. I dont like your music NOR will I respect you. How can you respect a fake gansta coming on the net talking all hard, like YOU NEED TO RESPECT ME!, Fuck outta here. Im done with this clown
u made ma laff like real loud...he's gangsta cuz he sold ounces of kush for 6 years!!! quote something that i said that was garbage,dont worry i'll wait...U WILL RESPECT ME PUNK OR I'LL KICC YOUR ASS!!! LOL...anyway u should have stucc to the topic fucc boy!!! BOW THAT SHIT DOWN THEN...
Ok I did misundrstand this topic, and for that my bad. I was just stated i dont feel Spider or his camp. I dont rember the song i heard but i knew i wasnt feeling it... So prove me wrong and post up your best song and i will take back some of my comments. Check my previos post. I HAVE never said ONE negitive thing about anyone on this forum actully I dont belive on hating on another man for doing what hes doing. Wasnt trying to talk shit, You asked what I thought a wack rapper was and I was stating out of evryone coming from the west, the only cats I aint feeling are Spider. Your right havent heard much from you, But going by a song and dont know which one. I just know i wasnt feeeling it. Just the cats the I know are really in the street arnt up on the net, talking slick and telling people to respect them. Shit most of the real nigga dont even know how get on the net let alone post bullitins. My earlier post came from me being drunk and in a bad fuckd up mood. But if you serious and you wanna get down, I aint hiding from noone. I be up in Santa Ana all bay. You wont to come see me, PM me and well set somthing up, I aint no punk homie. I got homies that are conncected, that stay strapped. And Im not trying to act tought, Cause the reality is that im not a big dude. But i know how to handle mine. I i got folks that would ride for me in a heart beat. All i said I wasnt feeling your music, and you came at me LIKE RESPECT ME OR ILL KICK YOUR ASS. Well i dont respect you for the things you do on DUBCC, Now i will take it back that ur music is garbage if you show me some real g shit, with some dope lyrics. But I aint no punk that come on the net talking slick. You got a problem with me, We both grownn men and we both stay in SoCal. Thats what it is.
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Wrong, Nobody is taking sides, yukmouth dissed Game and and others still supported him and his shit, i even bought his tapes thru myspace.
Spider Loc is truly wack,
PLEase, For the Love of Christ and His Father Jehova, tell me if this aint Toattly Joke-trash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kCVZtoCnz8
Worst Rap Song I have ever Heard and Many More, He is So BAAAAAAAAD
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Hahahahhaha! You gotta be kidding me! Is that the real version??? It thought it was some whack ass parody or some shit like that! Hilarious!
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
this aint no baymaac discussion,this for all rappers period!!! and by us being garbage,fool please...i will rap circles around you and any body you can get or that would take your fade point blank period,then i would beat the shit outta you for wasting my time... u aint never heard me spit wacc in ya life and cant nobody on here say they have,u aint gotta like me but u will respect me...this topic doesnt call for any names to be mentioned cuz what u might not like the next man will...i asking for specific things that make you a wacc rapper... horrible lyrics hah!!! find one...i bet u aint even heard me or anyone from baymaac rapping,u just on here hating cuz your mom aint gon have a job no more after halloween ;D
I wsnt talking shit directly but now i am... Your a stright up clown homie, and your raps are garbage period. Get over, you dont have a carrer in rap go back to fliping burgers. You fake ass gangsta. Shit im more gangsta than you. Ive been selling oz. of kush the past 6 years, what the fuck have you done? And i dont rap, but if that was my job, You can bet your ass I would coming up with better lyrics than you and spider. I dont like your music NOR will I respect you. How can you respect a fake gansta coming on the net talking all hard, like YOU NEED TO RESPECT ME!, Fuck outta here. Im done with this clown
u made ma laff like real loud...he's gangsta cuz he sold ounces of kush for 6 years!!! quote something that i said that was garbage,dont worry i'll wait...U WILL RESPECT ME PUNK OR I'LL KICC YOUR ASS!!! LOL...anyway u should have stucc to the topic fucc boy!!! BOW THAT SHIT DOWN THEN...
Ok I did misundrstand this topic, and for that my bad. I was just stated i dont feel Spider or his camp. I dont rember the song i heard but i knew i wasnt feeling it... So prove me wrong and post up your best song and i will take back some of my comments. Check my previos post. I HAVE never said ONE negitive thing about anyone on this forum actully I dont belive on hating on another man for doing what hes doing. Wasnt trying to talk shit, You asked what I thought a wack rapper was and I was stating out of evryone coming from the west, the only cats I aint feeling are Spider. Your right havent heard much from you, But going by a song and dont know which one. I just know i wasnt feeeling it. Just the cats the I know are really in the street arnt up on the net, talking slick and telling people to respect them. Shit most of the real nigga dont even know how get on the net let alone post bullitins. My earlier post came from me being drunk and in a bad fuckd up mood. But if you serious and you wanna get down, I aint hiding from noone. I be up in Santa Ana all bay. You wont to come see me, PM me and well set somthing up, I aint no punk homie. I got homies that are conncected, that stay strapped. And Im not trying to act tought, Cause the reality is that im not a big dude. But i know how to handle mine. I i got folks that would ride for me in a heart beat. All i said I wasnt feeling your music, and you came at me LIKE RESPECT ME OR ILL KICK YOUR ASS. Well i dont respect you for the things you do on DUBCC, Now i will take it back that ur music is garbage if you show me some real g shit, with some dope lyrics. But I aint no punk that come on the net talking slick. You got a problem with me, We both grownn men and we both stay in SoCal. Thats what it is.
for real Paybacc post up some of your best shit, and let the people be the judge, instead of having the "respect me or ill kick your ass" approach. I dont like Spiders music, but Im open-minded so post something...
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in short...imo...a rapper who is wack is one who has a wack flow, no creativity, chooses the wackest beats or puts the good ones 2 shame, and in some cases...wack lyrics...
now i say some cases wack lyrics cuz u dont have 2 be nas or jay-z lyrically but u can have a dope flow and make people want to listen to u and get ya point across...like t.i. and young jeezy do...they dont have many punchlines or hot metaphors...but they got nice delivery and creativity...and sometimes thats all u might need...
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being signed to a rapper that isnt signed and spending all your time on a forum e-bangin!
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being signed to a rapper that isnt signed and spending all your time on a forum e-bangin!
for one homie u talk too much...u the waccest nigga i know,i heard your myspace music,straight garbage!!! no hate real talk...remember i told you before!!! if i spend all my time on here what do u do??? i would prefer to beat niggas up like you but i know thats just a dream for me,so i talk shit to niggas that fly off at the mouth,but by you being from watts and all we could easily handle the issue!!! i got a zero tolerance for hoe-niggas so stop acting like one...
u know what im a real nigga,keeping it all the way gangsta i really dont remember what your music sounded like,it might have been wacc it might not have been,i only listened to a few bars...but so what!!!
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
this aint no baymaac discussion,this for all rappers period!!! and by us being garbage,fool please...i will rap circles around you and any body you can get or that would take your fade point blank period,then i would beat the shit outta you for wasting my time... u aint never heard me spit wacc in ya life and cant nobody on here say they have,u aint gotta like me but u will respect me...this topic doesnt call for any names to be mentioned cuz what u might not like the next man will...i asking for specific things that make you a wacc rapper... horrible lyrics hah!!! find one...i bet u aint even heard me or anyone from baymaac rapping,u just on here hating cuz your mom aint gon have a job no more after halloween ;D
I wsnt talking shit directly but now i am... Your a stright up clown homie, and your raps are garbage period. Get over, you dont have a carrer in rap go back to fliping burgers. You fake ass gangsta. Shit im more gangsta than you. Ive been selling oz. of kush the past 6 years, what the fuck have you done? And i dont rap, but if that was my job, You can bet your ass I would coming up with better lyrics than you and spider. I dont like your music NOR will I respect you. How can you respect a fake gansta coming on the net talking all hard, like YOU NEED TO RESPECT ME!, Fuck outta here. Im done with this clown
u made ma laff like real loud...he's gangsta cuz he sold ounces of kush for 6 years!!! quote something that i said that was garbage,dont worry i'll wait...U WILL RESPECT ME PUNK OR I'LL KICC YOUR ASS!!! LOL...anyway u should have stucc to the topic fucc boy!!! BOW THAT SHIT DOWN THEN...
Ok I did misundrstand this topic, and for that my bad. I was just stated i dont feel Spider or his camp. I dont rember the song i heard but i knew i wasnt feeling it... So prove me wrong and post up your best song and i will take back some of my comments. Check my previos post. I HAVE never said ONE negitive thing about anyone on this forum actully I dont belive on hating on another man for doing what hes doing. Wasnt trying to talk shit, You asked what I thought a wack rapper was and I was stating out of evryone coming from the west, the only cats I aint feeling are Spider. Your right havent heard much from you, But going by a song and dont know which one. I just know i wasnt feeeling it. Just the cats the I know are really in the street arnt up on the net, talking slick and telling people to respect them. Shit most of the real nigga dont even know how get on the net let alone post bullitins. My earlier post came from me being drunk and in a bad fuckd up mood. But if you serious and you wanna get down, I aint hiding from noone. I be up in Santa Ana all bay. You wont to come see me, PM me and well set somthing up, I aint no punk homie. I got homies that are conncected, that stay strapped. And Im not trying to act tought, Cause the reality is that im not a big dude. But i know how to handle mine. I i got folks that would ride for me in a heart beat. All i said I wasnt feeling your music, and you came at me LIKE RESPECT ME OR ILL KICK YOUR ASS. Well i dont respect you for the things you do on DUBCC, Now i will take it back that ur music is garbage if you show me some real g shit, with some dope lyrics. But I aint no punk that come on the net talking slick. You got a problem with me, We both grownn men and we both stay in SoCal. Thats what it is.
for real Paybacc post up some of your best shit, and let the people be the judge, instead of having the "respect me or ill kick your ass" approach. I dont like Spiders music, but Im open-minded so post something...
was i talking 2 you??? if you call me wacc without ever hearing a song i did thats how im going to respond bacc!!! niggas on here know me and they heard me and i done put up bars for them to read,thats me on the picture,i dont hide behind no alias,im not a coward!!! u gotta problem with spider then u gotta problem with me!!! that nigga far from wacc!!! u aint opened minded u a follower...so what u dont like boss og,its not one of my favorites either but its far from wacc and i know a gang of niggas that like the fucc outta that song,all them rap niggas u got on your avatar got at least 1 or 2 songs that i dont like,but does that make them wacc,fucc no!!! grow up bruh...
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
this aint no baymaac discussion,this for all rappers period!!! and by us being garbage,fool please...i will rap circles around you and any body you can get or that would take your fade point blank period,then i would beat the shit outta you for wasting my time... u aint never heard me spit wacc in ya life and cant nobody on here say they have,u aint gotta like me but u will respect me...this topic doesnt call for any names to be mentioned cuz what u might not like the next man will...i asking for specific things that make you a wacc rapper... horrible lyrics hah!!! find one...i bet u aint even heard me or anyone from baymaac rapping,u just on here hating cuz your mom aint gon have a job no more after halloween ;D
I wsnt talking shit directly but now i am... Your a stright up clown homie, and your raps are garbage period. Get over, you dont have a carrer in rap go back to fliping burgers. You fake ass gangsta. Shit im more gangsta than you. Ive been selling oz. of kush the past 6 years, what the fuck have you done? And i dont rap, but if that was my job, You can bet your ass I would coming up with better lyrics than you and spider. I dont like your music NOR will I respect you. How can you respect a fake gansta coming on the net talking all hard, like YOU NEED TO RESPECT ME!, Fuck outta here. Im done with this clown
u made ma laff like real loud...he's gangsta cuz he sold ounces of kush for 6 years!!! quote something that i said that was garbage,dont worry i'll wait...U WILL RESPECT ME PUNK OR I'LL KICC YOUR ASS!!! LOL...anyway u should have stucc to the topic fucc boy!!! BOW THAT SHIT DOWN THEN...
Ok I did misundrstand this topic, and for that my bad. I was just stated i dont feel Spider or his camp. I dont rember the song i heard but i knew i wasnt feeling it... So prove me wrong and post up your best song and i will take back some of my comments. Check my previos post. I HAVE never said ONE negitive thing about anyone on this forum actully I dont belive on hating on another man for doing what hes doing. Wasnt trying to talk shit, You asked what I thought a wack rapper was and I was stating out of evryone coming from the west, the only cats I aint feeling are Spider. Your right havent heard much from you, But going by a song and dont know which one. I just know i wasnt feeeling it. Just the cats the I know are really in the street arnt up on the net, talking slick and telling people to respect them. Shit most of the real nigga dont even know how get on the net let alone post bullitins. My earlier post came from me being drunk and in a bad fuckd up mood. But if you serious and you wanna get down, I aint hiding from noone. I be up in Santa Ana all bay. You wont to come see me, PM me and well set somthing up, I aint no punk homie. I got homies that are conncected, that stay strapped. And Im not trying to act tought, Cause the reality is that im not a big dude. But i know how to handle mine. I i got folks that would ride for me in a heart beat. All i said I wasnt feeling your music, and you came at me LIKE RESPECT ME OR ILL KICK YOUR ASS. Well i dont respect you for the things you do on DUBCC, Now i will take it back that ur music is garbage if you show me some real g shit, with some dope lyrics. But I aint no punk that come on the net talking slick. You got a problem with me, We both grownn men and we both stay in SoCal. Thats what it is.
checc this out bruh,i dont care about none of your connections in the streets that stay strapped, they aint stop making heaters when they made theirs,real niggas do know how to get on the net,they just dont know how to post up songs lol...thats me in the flicc by the way im not a coward i dont talk shit and hide behind the computer like most of these weenies,i like for people to see what they dealing with,and as far as trying to meet up with you,i've tried that already with a nigga off here,it was a waste of time,u can checc it out on you tube if u dont believe me big paybacc vs. hating ass blogger on dubcnn,bacc to the issue tho ,u said i was wacc therefore that labels u a hater,cuz me spitting anything wacc is impossible for me to do,put it up then!!! and u said spider was wacc and his camp was garbage ,remember that??? so miss me with the innocent talk,and by u being a lil guy" hey" yo bad!!! and i will kicc your ass thats real talk!!! dont be mad its the truth...and how can i possibly have a problem with you,your not a real person anyway ur name is riccdeeznutz right??? ur just spam to me...put up a real picture then i might take u more seriously!!!
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im an old school head, at least by todays standards, so wack to me is basically lack of lyrics & flow.....all that new shit about 'swagger' means shit to me, yeah an mc has to show confidence on the mic, and even tho heads like big daddy kane, slick rick & even rakim had a type of swagger, it didnt really matter cuz you were mainly caught up in their skills (which all three had planty of).....i mean, i bought slick ricks tape cuz he was dope, not cuz he wore an eye patch and had crazy gold chains! im an LA head, i wasnt trying to look all new york wid it back then! my point being that his clothes and style didnt amount to much, it boiled down to dope music....
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and honestly, i really think spider loc gets a raw deal up in here.....there are plenty of other heads who are far worse than he is, i actually think sum of the songs i've heard from him have been coo (off the top, the one on the get rich or die tryin' soundtrack was dope).....but one thing that will keep me from checkin an mc's music is how negative they are (40 glocc imediately comes to mind).....i cant fuck witchu if your so full of hate and anger at every damn body in the world except who your homies wit, so thats one reason i dont check for the baymacc stuff much, it seems like too much negativity....i respect what u doing tho paybacc, cuz im a valley head myself and grew up in the same area you from, so i gotta show support of the strength of that (i like that valley nigga song), but i've always thought the way you agrue wit internet heads in here is a mistake from the standpoint of an up & comming rapper trying to get support........just my two cents......one
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
this aint no baymaac discussion,this for all rappers period!!! and by us being garbage,fool please...i will rap circles around you and any body you can get or that would take your fade point blank period,then i would beat the shit outta you for wasting my time... u aint never heard me spit wacc in ya life and cant nobody on here say they have,u aint gotta like me but u will respect me...this topic doesnt call for any names to be mentioned cuz what u might not like the next man will...i asking for specific things that make you a wacc rapper... horrible lyrics hah!!! find one...i bet u aint even heard me or anyone from baymaac rapping,u just on here hating cuz your mom aint gon have a job no more after halloween ;D
I wsnt talking shit directly but now i am... Your a stright up clown homie, and your raps are garbage period. Get over, you dont have a carrer in rap go back to fliping burgers. You fake ass gangsta. Shit im more gangsta than you. Ive been selling oz. of kush the past 6 years, what the fuck have you done? And i dont rap, but if that was my job, You can bet your ass I would coming up with better lyrics than you and spider. I dont like your music NOR will I respect you. How can you respect a fake gansta coming on the net talking all hard, like YOU NEED TO RESPECT ME!, Fuck outta here. Im done with this clown
u made ma laff like real loud...he's gangsta cuz he sold ounces of kush for 6 years!!! quote something that i said that was garbage,dont worry i'll wait...U WILL RESPECT ME PUNK OR I'LL KICC YOUR ASS!!! LOL...anyway u should have stucc to the topic fucc boy!!! BOW THAT SHIT DOWN THEN...
Ok I did misundrstand this topic, and for that my bad. I was just stated i dont feel Spider or his camp. I dont rember the song i heard but i knew i wasnt feeling it... So prove me wrong and post up your best song and i will take back some of my comments. Check my previos post. I HAVE never said ONE negitive thing about anyone on this forum actully I dont belive on hating on another man for doing what hes doing. Wasnt trying to talk shit, You asked what I thought a wack rapper was and I was stating out of evryone coming from the west, the only cats I aint feeling are Spider. Your right havent heard much from you, But going by a song and dont know which one. I just know i wasnt feeeling it. Just the cats the I know are really in the street arnt up on the net, talking slick and telling people to respect them. Shit most of the real nigga dont even know how get on the net let alone post bullitins. My earlier post came from me being drunk and in a bad fuckd up mood. But if you serious and you wanna get down, I aint hiding from noone. I be up in Santa Ana all bay. You wont to come see me, PM me and well set somthing up, I aint no punk homie. I got homies that are conncected, that stay strapped. And Im not trying to act tought, Cause the reality is that im not a big dude. But i know how to handle mine. I i got folks that would ride for me in a heart beat. All i said I wasnt feeling your music, and you came at me LIKE RESPECT ME OR ILL KICK YOUR ASS. Well i dont respect you for the things you do on DUBCC, Now i will take it back that ur music is garbage if you show me some real g shit, with some dope lyrics. But I aint no punk that come on the net talking slick. You got a problem with me, We both grownn men and we both stay in SoCal. Thats what it is.
for real Paybacc post up some of your best shit, and let the people be the judge, instead of having the "respect me or ill kick your ass" approach. I dont like Spiders music, but Im open-minded so post something...
was i talking 2 you??? if you call me wacc without ever hearing a song i did thats how im going to respond bacc!!! niggas on here know me and they heard me and i done put up bars for them to read,thats me on the picture,i dont hide behind no alias,im not a coward!!! u gotta problem with spider then u gotta problem with me!!! that nigga far from wacc!!! u aint opened minded u a follower...so what u dont like boss og,its not one of my favorites either but its far from wacc and i know a gang of niggas that like the fucc outta that song,all them rap niggas u got on your avatar got at least 1 or 2 songs that i dont like,but does that make them wacc,fucc no!!! grow up bruh...
no you werent talking to me, but its an open forum. I havent called you wack, i just said i didnt like Spiders music. ur going nowhere fast if you wont even drop some music when asked. IM ASKING TO HEAR YOUR MUSIC! but u fly off acting all gangsta!
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style
flow
mic presence
mainly
for example lets take it to the OG's
Face-mobbbbbbbbbbb!!!!end of story!!!!!
jus cuz you think you can rap dont mean your dope
and like you said if you dont like something dont mean your wacc
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I dont think the alot of people hate on Spider or Big Paybac (who the fuck is this? Besides a DUCC postetr?) because of the game beef. Im sure alot of Game stans will not support spider or any of his camp, but im sure alot of people dont like Spider and Baymacc because there just wack. No oringinallity, horible lyrics, bad production. There just not a factor in Hip hop let alone Gangsta rap, people dont care about them besides the 15 fans they got. Not hating, just saying how i feel. Spider and his camp are garbage, always will be...With some many promising acts coming from the West...Bishop, Cruz, Jay Rock, Ya boy, Crooked, Glasses, Damani, Lucc, Juice, X.O, Hot Dolla, and soo many more. Theres no room for spider or his camp. IMO
lol Juice? XO? I am a Game stan but I gotta say, Juice has got to be one of the wackest shits i ever heard, He calls himself King in his raps and Puts his Lil Verses on Peoples records and gives them a shoutout like he knows them..
I am sure he realised that and stopped Rapping, thats why he made 1 tape, in his lifetime,.
He raps like he is running up the hill and namedrops like Game. But only wack.
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and honestly, i really think spider loc gets a raw deal up in here.....there are plenty of other heads who are far worse than he is, i actually think sum of the songs i've heard from him have been coo (off the top, the one on the get rich or die tryin' soundtrack was dope).....but one thing that will keep me from checkin an mc's music is how negative they are (40 glocc imediately comes to mind).....i cant fuck witchu if your so full of hate and anger at every damn body in the world except who your homies wit, so thats one reason i dont check for the baymacc stuff much, it seems like too much negativity....i respect what u doing tho paybacc, cuz im a valley head myself and grew up in the same area you from, so i gotta show support of the strength of that (i like that valley nigga song), but i've always thought the way you agrue wit internet heads in here is a mistake from the standpoint of an up & comming rapper trying to get support........just my two cents......one
how does it seem like too much negativity??? sounds like your passing judgement to me...and the folks i argue with arent even real people their spam!!! see i start certain threads with the purpose of trying to get sensible people to open their ears and eyes,i dont argue with everybody,only the childish individuals that cant help but to say dumb shit!!! there a few baymaac haters on here that have kept it real and said that they feelin the music they just dont like all the beefing...believe it or not thats not what we are all about,as for me im an asshole,i can admit that!!! but im also someone you can talk to if it aint about foolishness...i dont know if you seen me and big maniacc the blogger i got into it with on here,and the one i went looking for on you tube at the 24hr fitness in the city,thats my patna now...real recognize real!!! thats why i do it...its all about respect dude,its earned not given!!! and why not argue when being disrespected,would u prefer me bow down or kiss they ass??? :nawty: and yeah im up and coming, but i gonna do me regardless,but i do appreciate the support i do get,its too easy to talk shit but its harder for folks to hold an intelligent conversation...(get it)
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and honestly, i really think spider loc gets a raw deal up in here.....there are plenty of other heads who are far worse than he is, i actually think sum of the songs i've heard from him have been coo (off the top, the one on the get rich or die tryin' soundtrack was dope).....but one thing that will keep me from checkin an mc's music is how negative they are (40 glocc imediately comes to mind).....i cant fuck witchu if your so full of hate and anger at every damn body in the world except who your homies wit, so thats one reason i dont check for the baymacc stuff much, it seems like too much negativity....i respect what u doing tho paybacc, cuz im a valley head myself and grew up in the same area you from, so i gotta show support of the strength of that (i like that valley nigga song), but i've always thought the way you agrue wit internet heads in here is a mistake from the standpoint of an up & comming rapper trying to get support........just my two cents......one
how does it seem like too much negativity??? sounds like your passing judgement to me...and the folks i argue with arent even real people their spam!!! see i start certain threads with the purpose of trying to get sensible people to open their ears and eyes,i dont argue with everybody,only the childish individuals that cant help but to say dumb shit!!! there a few baymaac haters on here that have kept it real and said that they feelin the music they just dont like all the beefing...believe it or not thats not what we are all about,as for me im an asshole,i can admit that!!! but im also someone you can talk to if it aint about foolishness...i dont know if you seen me and big maniacc the blogger i got into it with on here,and the one i went looking for on you tube at the 24hr fitness in the city,thats my patna now...real recognize real!!! thats why i do it...its all about respect dude,its earned not given!!! and why not argue when being disrespected,would u prefer me bow down or kiss they ass??? :nawty: and yeah im up and coming, but i gonna do me regardless,but i do appreciate the support i do get,its too easy to talk shit but its harder for folks to hold an intelligent conversation...(get it)
what about that music then? :D
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and honestly, i really think spider loc gets a raw deal up in here.....there are plenty of other heads who are far worse than he is, i actually think sum of the songs i've heard from him have been coo (off the top, the one on the get rich or die tryin' soundtrack was dope).....but one thing that will keep me from checkin an mc's music is how negative they are (40 glocc imediately comes to mind).....i cant fuck witchu if your so full of hate and anger at every damn body in the world except who your homies wit, so thats one reason i dont check for the baymacc stuff much, it seems like too much negativity....i respect what u doing tho paybacc, cuz im a valley head myself and grew up in the same area you from, so i gotta show support of the strength of that (i like that valley nigga song), but i've always thought the way you agrue wit internet heads in here is a mistake from the standpoint of an up & comming rapper trying to get support........just my two cents......one
how does it seem like too much negativity??? sounds like your passing judgement to me...and the folks i argue with arent even real people their spam!!! see i start certain threads with the purpose of trying to get sensible people to open their ears and eyes,i dont argue with everybody,only the childish individuals that cant help but to say dumb shit!!! there a few baymaac haters on here that have kept it real and said that they feelin the music they just dont like all the beefing...believe it or not thats not what we are all about,as for me im an asshole,i can admit that!!! but im also someone you can talk to if it aint about foolishness...i dont know if you seen me and big maniacc the blogger i got into it with on here,and the one i went looking for on you tube at the 24hr fitness in the city,thats my patna now...real recognize real!!! thats why i do it...its all about respect dude,its earned not given!!! and why not argue when being disrespected,would u prefer me bow down or kiss they ass??? :nawty: and yeah im up and coming, but i gonna do me regardless,but i do appreciate the support i do get,its too easy to talk shit but its harder for folks to hold an intelligent conversation...(get it)
what about that music then? :D
go to my myspace cuz i dont know how to put up music...if u see a thread from me up with music on it then its not me that did it... myspace/big paybacc g-unit west/b.a.y.m.a.a.c
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I would say:
Elementary rhymes
Lack of creativity
Boring or no ability to change up the flow
Rhyming over wack production
On the whole Baymacc camp issue, Paybacc is the only one that is ok. Of course I only heard one song from him but he showed some promise. The rest, including Spider, I just don't listen to for reasons stated above.
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been in the game for 10 years without an album ::)
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I can't just state specific things because saying someone is wack, is a generalization. For instance, some people are saying bad lyrics make a rapper wack, however, I have heard songs that are not lyrical at all, yet are great songs because the rapper made up for the lyrics with flow, charisma, voice, and a good beat for example. On the other hand, you can take someone like Ras Kass, who most would consider is very lyrical, however I don't really care for him...I think he is boring. I wouldn't call him wack, but I don't really care for his music.
Sometimes you just can't explain why you don't like a rapper...you just don't like them, simple as that. You aint feeling him and you think he is wack.
I been listening to rap since about 92, and I have heard soooo much, so really nothing really stands out these days. I consider most of the new rappers in the game to be wack...mostly cause they are so damn boring...same topics that been used a million times before, rhyming the same words, playing out the gangsta shit, etc. No originality.
As far as spider loc goes...I don't really listen to his music. I just constantly hear about him with stupid ass soap opera bullshit. The rap game has turned into a soap opera and I can't stand it. I refuse to listen to rappers that are part of the soap opera, such as spider loc and 40 glocc. Plus they roll with g-unit, which I can't stand, and refuse to listen to. I have heard some songs by spider loc, and I could easily confuse him with about 100 other rappers because there is absolutely nothing distinguishable about him. Same old shit as everybody else. He is like 1 of 100 clones of an extremely mediocre boring gangsta rapper.
As for bigpaybacc, I have no idea whether he is wack or not cause I have never heard his music, and honestly have no desire to. and probably never will. I have given too many wack rappers a chance, that I really don't waste my time checking out any new rappers unless they happen to get a guest spot with a rapper that I do like, or someone who I know has good taste will recommend them.
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Gangsta lyrics, cause 90% of the time they are fake.
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Wrong, Nobody is taking sides, yukmouth dissed Game and and others still supported him and his shit, i even bought his tapes thru myspace.
Spider Loc is truly wack,
PLEase, For the Love of Christ and His Father Jehova, tell me if this aint Toattly Joke-trash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kCVZtoCnz8
Damn, after seein (and hearin) that all i have is a little bit more respect for the Paybaccs, realsupremes, treezy etc... cause they must really have some heart to still defend
spider (as an artist) after seein that. And Paybacc havin the balls to say he knows people who like this song ? Ah ah ah ah ... damn. Imma try to rip this from Youtube, it's a must have, specially made to put a smile back on your face when you have a bad day.
Worst Rap Song I have ever Heard and Many More, He is So BAAAAAAAAD
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Hahahahhaha! You gotta be kidding me! Is that the real version??? It thought it was some whack ass parody or some shit like that! Hilarious!
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What makes a wacc rapper ?
1.Bragging about what you got and cant rhyme
2.Making cheesy songs about females and trying to be hard .
3.Saying the same shit over and over , over a bubble gum beat .
4.Rapping about your rims and cars every other song ...
ETC..........
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I can't just state specific things because saying someone is wack, is a generalization. For instance, some people are saying bad lyrics make a rapper wack, however, I have heard songs that are not lyrical at all, yet are great songs because the rapper made up for the lyrics with flow, charisma, voice, and a good beat for example. On the other hand, you can take someone like Ras Kass, who most would consider is very lyrical, however I don't really care for him...I think he is boring. I wouldn't call him wack, but I don't really care for his music.
Sometimes you just can't explain why you don't like a rapper...you just don't like them, simple as that. You aint feeling him and you think he is wack.
I been listening to rap since about 92, and I have heard soooo much, so really nothing really stands out these days. I consider most of the new rappers in the game to be wack...mostly cause they are so damn boring...same topics that been used a million times before, rhyming the same words, playing out the gangsta shit, etc. No originality.
As far as spider loc goes...I don't really listen to his music. I just constantly hear about him with stupid ass soap opera bullshit. The rap game has turned into a soap opera and I can't stand it. I refuse to listen to rappers that are part of the soap opera, such as spider loc and 40 glocc. Plus they roll with g-unit, which I can't stand, and refuse to listen to. I have heard some songs by spider loc, and I could easily confuse him with about 100 other rappers because there is absolutely nothing distinguishable about him. Same old shit as everybody else. He is like 1 of 100 clones of an extremely mediocre boring gangsta rapper.
As for bigpaybacc, I have no idea whether he is wack or not cause I have never heard his music, and honestly have no desire to. and probably never will. I have given too many wack rappers a chance, that I really don't waste my time checking out any new rappers unless they happen to get a guest spot with a rapper that I do like, or someone who I know has good taste will recommend them.
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I feel you on Ras kass , i could never feel his shit even though people consider him a good lyricist . People get it twisted and think just becuz you can make up big words and be different your somehow a dope lyricist . Its all about the music and your Mic presence and how you sound over the music . For example people say Cassidy is a better lyricist than Freeway , but Freeway makes better albums too me , they had a battle and from that people think Cassidy is so good , but just becuz you can rap dont mean you can make a great album .... Freeway - philadelphia freeway and Free At Last were both Dope albums ..
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I would say:
Elementary rhymes
Lack of creativity
Boring or no ability to change up the flow
Rhyming over wack production
On the whole Baymacc camp issue, Paybacc is the only one that is ok. Of course I only heard one song from him but he showed some promise. The rest, including Spider, I just don't listen to for reasons stated above.
after listening to Paybacc's myspace tracks I gotta agree. Big Paybacc's tracks aint bad at all. Now im sure you will fly off and not like this, but you gotta change your approach to how you interact with people on here, if people hate, let them hate. You keep doing your thing, people will check you, get Dubcnn behind you and you will have a great foundation!
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I NOTICED ALOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ACCUSE CERTAIN RAPPERS OF BEING WACC,NOW I'M NOT GOING TO GET SPECIFIC BUT THE RAPPERS THAT GET ACCUSED OF THIS THE MOST ARE FAR FROM WACC,I SHOULD KNOW CUZ I'M A MC MY SELF AND I KNOW GOOD LYRICS WHEN I HEAR THEM,NOW IS IT CUZ YOU DONT LIKE THE CERTAIN RAPPER FOR PERSONAL REASONS,OR MAYBE ITS FUN TO JUMP ON THE BAND WAGON AND CALL'EM WACC CUZ EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING IT,OR THE CERTAIN RAPPER HAS DISSED YOUR FAVORITE RAPPER SO THEREFORE YOU THINK BY CALLING THEM WACC THAT YOU ARE SOMEHOW GETTING EVEN WITH THEM,OR HAVE THEY MADE MORE BAD SONGS THAN GOOD ONES,NOW ALL IM ASKING IS WHAT MAKES A WACC RAPPER??? IS IT LYRICS,CONCEPT,FLOW,VOCABULARY,BEAT SELECTION,ATTITUDE,LET ME KNOW...SERIOUSLY!!! CUZ WHAT U MIGHT THINK IS THRASH,I MIGHT THINK IS GENIUS OR VICE VERSA...SERIOUS DEBATERS ONLY NO SHIT TALKING PLEASE AND ALL SERIOUS OPINIONS SHOULD BE RESPECTED!!! BY THE WAY HAPPY HALLOWEEN AND MY BIRTHDAY IS TOMORROW FOR THOSE WHO WANNA SEND PRESENTS LOL!!! THERES ONE WEST...B.A.Y.M.A.A.C!!!
"OH YEAH" JUST CUZ U MIGHT NOT LIKE A CERTAIN SONG THAT DOES'NT MAKE IT WACC...
when a nigga just put words together and it's just babbling on the mic and repeat a sentence in a verse. consistently picking wack beats instead of dope beats and a chronic(my vocab is broad sorry) weak flow
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I would say:
Elementary rhymes
Lack of creativity
Boring or no ability to change up the flow
Rhyming over wack production
On the whole Baymacc camp issue, Paybacc is the only one that is ok. Of course I only heard one song from him but he showed some promise. The rest, including Spider, I just don't listen to for reasons stated above.
one song!!! homie you are cheating yourself...
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Gangsta lyrics, cause 90% of the time they are fake.
true,true...im in that 10 percent tho!!!
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I would say:
Elementary rhymes
Lack of creativity
Boring or no ability to change up the flow
Rhyming over wack production
On the whole Baymacc camp issue, Paybacc is the only one that is ok. Of course I only heard one song from him but he showed some promise. The rest, including Spider, I just don't listen to for reasons stated above.
after listening to Paybacc's myspace tracks I gotta agree. Big Paybacc's tracks aint bad at all. Now im sure you will fly off and not like this, but you gotta change your approach to how you interact with people on here, if people hate, let them hate. You keep doing your thing, people will check you, get Dubcnn behind you and you will have a great foundation!
fly off for what??? u aint said nothing disrespectful...why hate??? just keep it real,like u said i was garbage, now u say im not bad,its like u was hating without even hearing a nigga spit,so i say to you is keep an open mind and not be a follower,think before u talk and you will go a long way!!! and go get that connected 4 mixtape its the bizness...
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I would say:
Elementary rhymes
Lack of creativity
Boring or no ability to change up the flow
Rhyming over wack production
On the whole Baymacc camp issue, Paybacc is the only one that is ok. Of course I only heard one song from him but he showed some promise. The rest, including Spider, I just don't listen to for reasons stated above.
after listening to Paybacc's myspace tracks I gotta agree. Big Paybacc's tracks aint bad at all. Now im sure you will fly off and not like this, but you gotta change your approach to how you interact with people on here, if people hate, let them hate. You keep doing your thing, people will check you, get Dubcnn behind you and you will have a great foundation!
fly off for what??? u aint said nothing disrespectful...why hate??? just keep it real,like u said i was garbage, now u say im not bad,its like u was hating without even hearing a nigga spit,so i say to you is keep an open mind and not be a follower,think before u talk and you will go a long way!!! and go get that connected 4 mixtape its the bizness...
i NEVER said you were garbage! I said id never heard one of your songs, so why would i make a judgement? We came to a disagreement because I dont feel Spiders music, that was it.
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I would say:
Elementary rhymes
Lack of creativity
Boring or no ability to change up the flow
Rhyming over wack production
On the whole Baymacc camp issue, Paybacc is the only one that is ok. Of course I only heard one song from him but he showed some promise. The rest, including Spider, I just don't listen to for reasons stated above.
after listening to Paybacc's myspace tracks I gotta agree. Big Paybacc's tracks aint bad at all. Now im sure you will fly off and not like this, but you gotta change your approach to how you interact with people on here, if people hate, let them hate. You keep doing your thing, people will check you, get Dubcnn behind you and you will have a great foundation!
fly off for what??? u aint said nothing disrespectful...why hate??? just keep it real,like u said i was garbage, now u say im not bad,its like u was hating without even hearing a nigga spit,so i say to you is keep an open mind and not be a follower,think before u talk and you will go a long way!!! and go get that connected 4 mixtape its the bizness...
i NEVER said you were garbage! I said id never heard one of your songs, so why would i make a judgement? We came to a disagreement because I dont feel Spiders music, that was it.
u right!!! i got u mixed up with the other dude...my bad!!! im not trying to convert u but take a listen cuz you will be suprised,if you got time you tube spider loc connected 4 and listen from front to bacc and if u think he still wacc then imma leave it alone...
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alright ima lay it out for yall. on my opinion of what makes a rapper whack.
we can all agree, that most of this shit is based on personal tastes and opinions.
but there are two categories to judge a Rapper: Lyrics and Flow.
lyrically, you do NOT have to be heavy with the metaphors or wordplay.
if you get your point across without having to dip into mad similes.
peep scarface and dudes like devin the dude, slick rick, and even tupac.
what makes a rapper whack lyrically?
relying heavily on punch lines,
especially if they have no substance ("im colder then ice, call me mr. winter" type of shit)
absolutely no originality or depth to your lyrics also. if you're just writing the same
shit as everyone else, and it goes no deeper then "bitch ima gangster, gang banger, money
and weed and bitches, im a slanger" then you're fucken whack.
BUT if you can express the same concepts but do it in a ORIGINAL way,
then thats dope. cuz yeah, dudes been rapping about being bosses, thugs, gangsters,
drug dealers, killers, players, and what not since the beginning of rap.
no fresh concepts or boring one sided material that goes nowhere.
nursery rhyme/elementary style shit is also booty.
what makes a rapper whack flow wise?
no swagger, presence, confidence, whatsoever.
even if you have a calm not so active flow, you can at least turn it into something
like mastah killah from wu tang did. his flow is the most inactive and slow paced of the whole group.
but on certain tracks he still manages to outshine them with his ominous and off kilter delivery.
if you just sound mad awkward, sound like you're talking, can't pronounce words properly,
run short of breath, can't ride the beat at least a bit, or change tempo when you need to,
or even stay on tempo, then you're whack. a boring ass borrowed flow is whack too.
most rappers these days have no outstanding flow or vocal performance. they
all run together to me.
with all that said, it just comes down to personal opinion in the end. cuz people i think are dope as fuck,
might be considered whack as fuck by everyone else.
i think best example of styles being different, would be like Jay-Z vs Big L.
jay z had a more introspective lyrical style that was more based off
clever punchlines with a smooth flow, while big L had hardcore lyrics
and a hardcore delivery, almost like battle raps. i consider both to have
delivered classic material, but from a technical stand point on lyrics, Big L would be better,
while Jay-z would have the better flow.
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Paybacc can rap yall can not even front on dude meng I heard homie,and he is nice
but to respond to the thread could be lots of things
content,delivery,mic presence ect laccin in certain departments makes you weak
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alright ima lay it out for yall. on my opinion of what makes a rapper whack.
we can all agree, that most of this shit is based on personal tastes and opinions.
but there are two categories to judge a Rapper: Lyrics and Flow.
lyrically, you do NOT have to be heavy with the metaphors or wordplay.
if you get your point across without having to dip into mad similes.
peep scarface and dudes like devin the dude, slick rick, and even tupac.
what makes a rapper whack lyrically?
relying heavily on punch lines,
especially if they have no substance ("im colder then ice, call me mr. winter" type of shit)
absolutely no originality or depth to your lyrics also. if you're just writing the same
shit as everyone else, and it goes no deeper then "bitch ima gangster, gang banger, money
and weed and bitches, im a slanger" then you're fucken whack.
BUT if you can express the same concepts but do it in a ORIGINAL way,
then thats dope. cuz yeah, dudes been rapping about being bosses, thugs, gangsters,
drug dealers, killers, players, and what not since the beginning of rap.
no fresh concepts or boring one sided material that goes nowhere.
nursery rhyme/elementary style shit is also booty.
what makes a rapper whack flow wise?
no swagger, presence, confidence, whatsoever.
even if you have a calm not so active flow, you can at least turn it into something
like mastah killah from wu tang did. his flow is the most inactive and slow paced of the whole group.
but on certain tracks he still manages to outshine them with his ominous and off kilter delivery.
if you just sound mad awkward, sound like you're talking, can't pronounce words properly,
run short of breath, can't ride the beat at least a bit, or change tempo when you need to,
or even stay on tempo, then you're whack. a boring ass borrowed flow is whack too.
most rappers these days have no outstanding flow or vocal performance. they
all run together to me.
with all that said, it just comes down to personal opinion in the end. cuz people i think are dope as fuck,
might be considered whack as fuck by everyone else.
i think best example of styles being different, would be like Jay-Z vs Big L.
jay z had a more introspective lyrical style that was more based off
clever punchlines with a smooth flow, while big L had hardcore lyrics
and a hardcore delivery, almost like battle raps. i consider both to have
delivered classic material, but from a technical stand point on lyrics, Big L would be better,
while Jay-z would have the better flow.
good post, i agree
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What makes a Wack Rapper? Lack of creativity... which can include the choice of beats, lyrics, flow, delivery (which some may call swagger)...Some of these dudes just sound boring...