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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on November 11, 2008, 04:04:17 AM
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Manu is out until Mid December....and Tony Parker is out a Month....Spurs are Done ;D ;D 8)
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Playoffs don't start until april ??? Ginobili, that old nigga gon' be fresher. And it gives Duncan a chance to get his offensive domination back.
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Timmy can get it done by himself, and as tough as the West has proven to be, I'd have to agree that the Spurs are in trouble. When you have LA and Utah at the top of the west with Houston, PHX, NOH, Portland etc playing pretty good ball, the Spurs will prolly get buried pretty quickly. One month in the western conference with just 1/3 or your core is hard to overcome.
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they'll have to pull off a big trade to be able to compete while Manu and Parker are out.
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the set is on point with his explanation, the West is just too deep.
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Yeah the Spurs are in trouble. Ginobli and Parker down, Duncan is not where he used to be, and no more Barry / Horry. Too bad they couldn't get Maggette, that would've really come in handy for them right now.
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well i wouldn't be surprised if they finished last or not at all.
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the Spurs' old ass BEEN done...theyll be a bottom seed in the playoffs this year, if they even get in.
the only plus on their team for this season is Roger Mason. dude is playing some tremendous ball.
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its a long season folks...i never count the Spurs out. they may not be the team they once were but they will make a playoff run,please believe
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sad but true
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Pretty devastating news. We'll see what happens. We tend to always come through with the mental toughness. ONE positive, the role players will be forced to step up now. Once Parker and Manu return, this should only make the team better. Sometimes teams improve when they have to play without a superstar for a stretch. As long as they dont dig too deep of a hole in the meantime.
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Duncan is playin damn good, fuck y'all smokin, duncan still sick with it
they in trouble without tony and manu tho'
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2006/2007 season anyone?
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its a long season folks...i never count the Spurs out. they may not be the team they once were but they will make a playoff run,please believe
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Feel foolish for counting the Spurs out yet?
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the rockets and clippers are pathetic, i can't believe they lost to an injured spurs team....
the rockets had a 14 point lead in the 4th quareter, i stop watching the game thinking it was over and when i go back to the game they are down by 2 points with 2 seconds left..lol
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^I thought both the Rockets and Clippers would be much better this season.
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the rockets and clippers are pathetic, i can't believe they lost to an injured spurs team....
the rockets had a 14 point lead in the 4th quareter, i stop watching the game thinking it was over and when i go back to the game they are down by 2 points with 2 seconds left..lol
lol your avatar is jokes...+1
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:sombrero:
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
LOL....the last two years were the end of the Spurs' years as being known as a threat..and quit making excuses, you're one of the main people who talks shit when people bring up injuries. Spurs reign as being contenders=over. It's back to the mid-90's for yall. 8)
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
LOL....the last two years were the end of the Spurs' years as being known as a threat..and quit making excuses, you're one of the main people who talks shit when people bring up injuries. Spurs reign as being contenders=over. It's back to the mid-90's for yall. 8)
the injuries WERE a problem this year, obviously. But its not an excuse cus I think the main problem was our defense. We've always been one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the league, and could usually shut down opponents. So any lack of scoring wasnt an issue. This year, our defense hasnt been anywhere NEAR as good. And no, we arent done lol. No NBA "Expert" would make that claim. The Spurs organization is one of the most respected in sports, they can draw free agents on that. Like I said, our down year(s) are better then 90% of teams good years lol. You should focus on your team, cus wouldnt it suck to watch Kobe fail (AGAIN) to win a title as the leader of the Lakers lol. You guys have lost in your last 2 finals appearances...and it hasnt been pretty. Way to rep the Western Conference :grumpy:
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
LOL....the last two years were the end of the Spurs' years as being known as a threat..and quit making excuses, you're one of the main people who talks shit when people bring up injuries. Spurs reign as being contenders=over. It's back to the mid-90's for yall. 8)
the injuries WERE a problem this year, obviously. But its not an excuse cus I think the main problem was our defense. We've always been one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the league, and could usually shut down opponents. So any lack of scoring wasnt an issue. This year, our defense hasnt been anywhere NEAR as good. And no, we arent done lol. No NBA "Expert" would make that claim. The Spurs organization is one of the most respected in sports, they can draw free agents on that. Like I said, our down year(s) are better then 90% of teams good years lol. You should focus on your team, cus wouldnt it suck to watch Kobe fail (AGAIN) to win a title as the leader of the Lakers lol. You guys have lost in your last 2 finals appearances...and it hasnt been pretty. Way to rep the Western Conference :grumpy:
no, muthafucka, the main problem is that yall are old and have an ancient core...it's time to destroy and rebuild. good luck taking 3 years to rebuild a contender ala the Lakers. :laugh:
it's better to lose in the Finals than to loser in the first round, but this topic is about the dying Spurs, not the rising Lakers. 8)
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
LOL....the last two years were the end of the Spurs' years as being known as a threat..and quit making excuses, you're one of the main people who talks shit when people bring up injuries. Spurs reign as being contenders=over. It's back to the mid-90's for yall. 8)
the injuries WERE a problem this year, obviously. But its not an excuse cus I think the main problem was our defense. We've always been one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the league, and could usually shut down opponents. So any lack of scoring wasnt an issue. This year, our defense hasnt been anywhere NEAR as good. And no, we arent done lol. No NBA "Expert" would make that claim. The Spurs organization is one of the most respected in sports, they can draw free agents on that. Like I said, our down year(s) are better then 90% of teams good years lol. You should focus on your team, cus wouldnt it suck to watch Kobe fail (AGAIN) to win a title as the leader of the Lakers lol. You guys have lost in your last 2 finals appearances...and it hasnt been pretty. Way to rep the Western Conference :grumpy:
no, muthafucka, the main problem is that yall are old and have an ancient core...it's time to destroy and rebuild. good luck taking 3 years to rebuild a contender ala the Lakers. :laugh:
it's better to lose in the Finals than to loser in the first round, but this topic is about the dying Spurs, not the rising Lakers. 8)
WTF are u talkin about? Out of our core players, only Manu's age is an issue. And its not really his age, its his health. He's just worn his body down too much over the years. Parker is in his prime, and Duncan still has a few good years left. The only other players that are old, are all role/ bench players. Bowen, Finley, Vaughn, etc. They come and go. We arent rebuilding lol. Rebuilding would typically cause you to see a huge hit to your record (ala Lakers post Shaq). How many teams are in rebuilding mode winning 50+ games? lol. And no, the Lakers arent rising. The Lakers are at the peak of where this current team CAN be. So its championship or bust. Hopefully Kobe doesnt fuck up another chance lol
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
LOL....the last two years were the end of the Spurs' years as being known as a threat..and quit making excuses, you're one of the main people who talks shit when people bring up injuries. Spurs reign as being contenders=over. It's back to the mid-90's for yall. 8)
the injuries WERE a problem this year, obviously. But its not an excuse cus I think the main problem was our defense. We've always been one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the league, and could usually shut down opponents. So any lack of scoring wasnt an issue. This year, our defense hasnt been anywhere NEAR as good. And no, we arent done lol. No NBA "Expert" would make that claim. The Spurs organization is one of the most respected in sports, they can draw free agents on that. Like I said, our down year(s) are better then 90% of teams good years lol. You should focus on your team, cus wouldnt it suck to watch Kobe fail (AGAIN) to win a title as the leader of the Lakers lol. You guys have lost in your last 2 finals appearances...and it hasnt been pretty. Way to rep the Western Conference :grumpy:
no, muthafucka, the main problem is that yall are old and have an ancient core...it's time to destroy and rebuild. good luck taking 3 years to rebuild a contender ala the Lakers. :laugh:
it's better to lose in the Finals than to loser in the first round, but this topic is about the dying Spurs, not the rising Lakers. 8)
WTF are u talkin about? Out of our core players, only Manu's age is an issue. And its not really his age, its his health. He's just worn his body down too much over the years. Parker is in his prime, and Duncan still has a few good years left. The only other players that are old, are all role/ bench players. Bowen, Finley, Vaughn, etc. They come and go. We arent rebuilding lol. Rebuilding would typically cause you to see a huge hit to your record (ala Lakers post Shaq). How many teams are in rebuilding mode winning 50+ games? lol. And no, the Lakers arent rising. The Lakers are at the peak of where this current team CAN be. So its championship or bust. Hopefully Kobe doesnt fuck up another chance lol
rigggghttt...duncan just keeps getting younger, yea? the best player on your team currently is Tony Parker, and I'd say he's more of a second option on a championship than a franchise player. building around parker is guna be extremely tough, and building around an aging duncan is out of the question. i'm not saying you guys already started rebuilding, i'm saying that's what's cookin for your future...just dont say i didnt warn ya, homie...PeACe
PS...LMAO@"the Lakers aren't rising"...Bynum=21, Gasol=1st full year with team, Kobe=maturing his game with each season. 2nd youngest team in the league, genius. step it up...foreal.
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
LOL....the last two years were the end of the Spurs' years as being known as a threat..and quit making excuses, you're one of the main people who talks shit when people bring up injuries. Spurs reign as being contenders=over. It's back to the mid-90's for yall. 8)
the injuries WERE a problem this year, obviously. But its not an excuse cus I think the main problem was our defense. We've always been one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the league, and could usually shut down opponents. So any lack of scoring wasnt an issue. This year, our defense hasnt been anywhere NEAR as good. And no, we arent done lol. No NBA "Expert" would make that claim. The Spurs organization is one of the most respected in sports, they can draw free agents on that. Like I said, our down year(s) are better then 90% of teams good years lol. You should focus on your team, cus wouldnt it suck to watch Kobe fail (AGAIN) to win a title as the leader of the Lakers lol. You guys have lost in your last 2 finals appearances...and it hasnt been pretty. Way to rep the Western Conference :grumpy:
no, muthafucka, the main problem is that yall are old and have an ancient core...it's time to destroy and rebuild. good luck taking 3 years to rebuild a contender ala the Lakers. :laugh:
it's better to lose in the Finals than to loser in the first round, but this topic is about the dying Spurs, not the rising Lakers. 8)
WTF are u talkin about? Out of our core players, only Manu's age is an issue. And its not really his age, its his health. He's just worn his body down too much over the years. Parker is in his prime, and Duncan still has a few good years left. The only other players that are old, are all role/ bench players. Bowen, Finley, Vaughn, etc. They come and go. We arent rebuilding lol. Rebuilding would typically cause you to see a huge hit to your record (ala Lakers post Shaq). How many teams are in rebuilding mode winning 50+ games? lol. And no, the Lakers arent rising. The Lakers are at the peak of where this current team CAN be. So its championship or bust. Hopefully Kobe doesnt fuck up another chance lol
rigggghttt...duncan just keeps getting younger, yea? the best player on your team currently is Tony Parker, and I'd say he's more of a second option on a championship than a franchise player. building around parker is guna be extremely tough, and building around an aging duncan is out of the question. i'm not saying you guys already started rebuilding, i'm saying that's what's cookin for your future...just dont say i didnt warn ya, homie...PeACe
PS...LMAO@"the Lakers aren't rising"...Bynum=21, Gasol=1st full year with team, Kobe=maturing his game with each season. 2nd youngest team in the league, genius. step it up...foreal.
Naw, Duncan isnt getting younger. As a matter of fact, no one on Earth is. Tony Parker has really emerged and all, but even he knows that the Spurs success goes through Duncan. Duncan just doesnt have the flashy numbers and big games. But opposing defenses (and offenses) have to prepare for everything Duncan sets up, not just his scoring. I dont see the team necesarily getting to the point where they will build AROUND Parker the way they built around Duncan. But they will usher in new players gradually as playersl ike Manu, and eventually Duncan fade. This keeps them from having those big drops recordwise. Believe me, dont be surprised to see the Spurs in the finals again within the next 2-3 yrs. Next year is a possibility, but due to cap space I dont think theyll make that big splash in free agency. They can go after Carter still (even tho I dont think he's the answer), and I know theres the whole Rasheed rumors goin on.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=Spurs-090429
Once again, this current Laker squad has met its full potential this year. Lets hope for your sake, it ends with a championship lol.
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
LOL....the last two years were the end of the Spurs' years as being known as a threat..and quit making excuses, you're one of the main people who talks shit when people bring up injuries. Spurs reign as being contenders=over. It's back to the mid-90's for yall. 8)
the injuries WERE a problem this year, obviously. But its not an excuse cus I think the main problem was our defense. We've always been one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the league, and could usually shut down opponents. So any lack of scoring wasnt an issue. This year, our defense hasnt been anywhere NEAR as good. And no, we arent done lol. No NBA "Expert" would make that claim. The Spurs organization is one of the most respected in sports, they can draw free agents on that. Like I said, our down year(s) are better then 90% of teams good years lol. You should focus on your team, cus wouldnt it suck to watch Kobe fail (AGAIN) to win a title as the leader of the Lakers lol. You guys have lost in your last 2 finals appearances...and it hasnt been pretty. Way to rep the Western Conference :grumpy:
no, muthafucka, the main problem is that yall are old and have an ancient core...it's time to destroy and rebuild. good luck taking 3 years to rebuild a contender ala the Lakers. :laugh:
it's better to lose in the Finals than to loser in the first round, but this topic is about the dying Spurs, not the rising Lakers. 8)
WTF are u talkin about? Out of our core players, only Manu's age is an issue. And its not really his age, its his health. He's just worn his body down too much over the years. Parker is in his prime, and Duncan still has a few good years left. The only other players that are old, are all role/ bench players. Bowen, Finley, Vaughn, etc. They come and go. We arent rebuilding lol. Rebuilding would typically cause you to see a huge hit to your record (ala Lakers post Shaq). How many teams are in rebuilding mode winning 50+ games? lol. And no, the Lakers arent rising. The Lakers are at the peak of where this current team CAN be. So its championship or bust. Hopefully Kobe doesnt fuck up another chance lol
rigggghttt...duncan just keeps getting younger, yea? the best player on your team currently is Tony Parker, and I'd say he's more of a second option on a championship than a franchise player. building around parker is guna be extremely tough, and building around an aging duncan is out of the question. i'm not saying you guys already started rebuilding, i'm saying that's what's cookin for your future...just dont say i didnt warn ya, homie...PeACe
PS...LMAO@"the Lakers aren't rising"...Bynum=21, Gasol=1st full year with team, Kobe=maturing his game with each season. 2nd youngest team in the league, genius. step it up...foreal.
Naw, Duncan isnt getting younger. As a matter of fact, no one on Earth is. Tony Parker has really emerged and all, but even he knows that the Spurs success goes through Duncan. Duncan just doesnt have the flashy numbers and big games. But opposing defenses (and offenses) have to prepare for everything Duncan sets up, not just his scoring. I dont see the team necesarily getting to the point where they will build AROUND Parker the way they built around Duncan. But they will usher in new players gradually as playersl ike Manu, and eventually Duncan fade. This keeps them from having those big drops recordwise. Believe me, dont be surprised to see the Spurs in the finals again within the next 2-3 yrs. Next year is a possibility, but due to cap space I dont think theyll make that big splash in free agency. They can go after Carter still (even tho I dont think he's the answer), and I know theres the whole Rasheed rumors goin on.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=Spurs-090429
Once again, this current Laker squad has met its full potential this year. Lets hope for your sake, it ends with a championship lol.
alright, whatever helps you feel better about your team deemed done...and since your team is done, i'm also done with any discussion about 'em...but, really now, how have the Lakers met their full potential when they havent even had bynum for a full season yet? how have we met our full potential when shannon brown just recently has emerged as our 2nd string point guard ahead of farmar? how have we reached our full potential when we have the 2nd youngest team in the league and havent even had our core playing together for a full year? LMAO damn, homie, it's so fucking obvious you'd be saying the exact opposite of what you're saying if you were a Laker fan......HORRIBLE.
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
LOL....the last two years were the end of the Spurs' years as being known as a threat..and quit making excuses, you're one of the main people who talks shit when people bring up injuries. Spurs reign as being contenders=over. It's back to the mid-90's for yall. 8)
the injuries WERE a problem this year, obviously. But its not an excuse cus I think the main problem was our defense. We've always been one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the league, and could usually shut down opponents. So any lack of scoring wasnt an issue. This year, our defense hasnt been anywhere NEAR as good. And no, we arent done lol. No NBA "Expert" would make that claim. The Spurs organization is one of the most respected in sports, they can draw free agents on that. Like I said, our down year(s) are better then 90% of teams good years lol. You should focus on your team, cus wouldnt it suck to watch Kobe fail (AGAIN) to win a title as the leader of the Lakers lol. You guys have lost in your last 2 finals appearances...and it hasnt been pretty. Way to rep the Western Conference :grumpy:
no, muthafucka, the main problem is that yall are old and have an ancient core...it's time to destroy and rebuild. good luck taking 3 years to rebuild a contender ala the Lakers. :laugh:
it's better to lose in the Finals than to loser in the first round, but this topic is about the dying Spurs, not the rising Lakers. 8)
WTF are u talkin about? Out of our core players, only Manu's age is an issue. And its not really his age, its his health. He's just worn his body down too much over the years. Parker is in his prime, and Duncan still has a few good years left. The only other players that are old, are all role/ bench players. Bowen, Finley, Vaughn, etc. They come and go. We arent rebuilding lol. Rebuilding would typically cause you to see a huge hit to your record (ala Lakers post Shaq). How many teams are in rebuilding mode winning 50+ games? lol. And no, the Lakers arent rising. The Lakers are at the peak of where this current team CAN be. So its championship or bust. Hopefully Kobe doesnt fuck up another chance lol
rigggghttt...duncan just keeps getting younger, yea? the best player on your team currently is Tony Parker, and I'd say he's more of a second option on a championship than a franchise player. building around parker is guna be extremely tough, and building around an aging duncan is out of the question. i'm not saying you guys already started rebuilding, i'm saying that's what's cookin for your future...just dont say i didnt warn ya, homie...PeACe
PS...LMAO@"the Lakers aren't rising"...Bynum=21, Gasol=1st full year with team, Kobe=maturing his game with each season. 2nd youngest team in the league, genius. step it up...foreal.
Naw, Duncan isnt getting younger. As a matter of fact, no one on Earth is. Tony Parker has really emerged and all, but even he knows that the Spurs success goes through Duncan. Duncan just doesnt have the flashy numbers and big games. But opposing defenses (and offenses) have to prepare for everything Duncan sets up, not just his scoring. I dont see the team necesarily getting to the point where they will build AROUND Parker the way they built around Duncan. But they will usher in new players gradually as playersl ike Manu, and eventually Duncan fade. This keeps them from having those big drops recordwise. Believe me, dont be surprised to see the Spurs in the finals again within the next 2-3 yrs. Next year is a possibility, but due to cap space I dont think theyll make that big splash in free agency. They can go after Carter still (even tho I dont think he's the answer), and I know theres the whole Rasheed rumors goin on.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=Spurs-090429
Once again, this current Laker squad has met its full potential this year. Lets hope for your sake, it ends with a championship lol.
alright, whatever helps you feel better about your team deemed done...and since your team is done, i'm also done with any discussion about 'em...but, really now, how have the Lakers met their full potential when they havent even had bynum for a full season yet? how have we met our full potential when shannon brown just recently has emerged as our 2nd string point guard ahead of farmar? how have we reached our full potential when we have the 2nd youngest team in the league and havent even had our core playing together for a full year? LMAO damn, homie, it's so fucking obvious you'd be saying the exact opposite of what you're saying if you were a Laker fan......HORRIBLE.
they have. This is it man, soak it up lol. They arent going to top this seasons record. They have some players who MIGHT improve their game. Kobe's game will not get any better tho, obviously. 2 guards dont tend to become better when they get older.
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Yeah yeah. Manu being out didnt help, and having our core 3 miss so many games together this year didnt either. But the biggest thing was the defense not being what is usually is. We could get away with not scoring +100 points a game if our team D was as good as it normally is. Oh well, we're gearing up for some big pickups anyways. Maybe only one or two small pieces during this off season, but in 2010 we'll have a good amount of cap space. The last 2 years have been down years (as in, no title). If our down years = 50+ wins...im sure theres a lot of teams wishing for down years like that lol.
LOL....the last two years were the end of the Spurs' years as being known as a threat..and quit making excuses, you're one of the main people who talks shit when people bring up injuries. Spurs reign as being contenders=over. It's back to the mid-90's for yall. 8)
the injuries WERE a problem this year, obviously. But its not an excuse cus I think the main problem was our defense. We've always been one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the league, and could usually shut down opponents. So any lack of scoring wasnt an issue. This year, our defense hasnt been anywhere NEAR as good. And no, we arent done lol. No NBA "Expert" would make that claim. The Spurs organization is one of the most respected in sports, they can draw free agents on that. Like I said, our down year(s) are better then 90% of teams good years lol. You should focus on your team, cus wouldnt it suck to watch Kobe fail (AGAIN) to win a title as the leader of the Lakers lol. You guys have lost in your last 2 finals appearances...and it hasnt been pretty. Way to rep the Western Conference :grumpy:
no, muthafucka, the main problem is that yall are old and have an ancient core...it's time to destroy and rebuild. good luck taking 3 years to rebuild a contender ala the Lakers. :laugh:
it's better to lose in the Finals than to loser in the first round, but this topic is about the dying Spurs, not the rising Lakers. 8)
WTF are u talkin about? Out of our core players, only Manu's age is an issue. And its not really his age, its his health. He's just worn his body down too much over the years. Parker is in his prime, and Duncan still has a few good years left. The only other players that are old, are all role/ bench players. Bowen, Finley, Vaughn, etc. They come and go. We arent rebuilding lol. Rebuilding would typically cause you to see a huge hit to your record (ala Lakers post Shaq). How many teams are in rebuilding mode winning 50+ games? lol. And no, the Lakers arent rising. The Lakers are at the peak of where this current team CAN be. So its championship or bust. Hopefully Kobe doesnt fuck up another chance lol
rigggghttt...duncan just keeps getting younger, yea? the best player on your team currently is Tony Parker, and I'd say he's more of a second option on a championship than a franchise player. building around parker is guna be extremely tough, and building around an aging duncan is out of the question. i'm not saying you guys already started rebuilding, i'm saying that's what's cookin for your future...just dont say i didnt warn ya, homie...PeACe
PS...LMAO@"the Lakers aren't rising"...Bynum=21, Gasol=1st full year with team, Kobe=maturing his game with each season. 2nd youngest team in the league, genius. step it up...foreal.
Naw, Duncan isnt getting younger. As a matter of fact, no one on Earth is. Tony Parker has really emerged and all, but even he knows that the Spurs success goes through Duncan. Duncan just doesnt have the flashy numbers and big games. But opposing defenses (and offenses) have to prepare for everything Duncan sets up, not just his scoring. I dont see the team necesarily getting to the point where they will build AROUND Parker the way they built around Duncan. But they will usher in new players gradually as playersl ike Manu, and eventually Duncan fade. This keeps them from having those big drops recordwise. Believe me, dont be surprised to see the Spurs in the finals again within the next 2-3 yrs. Next year is a possibility, but due to cap space I dont think theyll make that big splash in free agency. They can go after Carter still (even tho I dont think he's the answer), and I know theres the whole Rasheed rumors goin on.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=Spurs-090429
Once again, this current Laker squad has met its full potential this year. Lets hope for your sake, it ends with a championship lol.
alright, whatever helps you feel better about your team deemed done...and since your team is done, i'm also done with any discussion about 'em...but, really now, how have the Lakers met their full potential when they havent even had bynum for a full season yet? how have we met our full potential when shannon brown just recently has emerged as our 2nd string point guard ahead of farmar? how have we reached our full potential when we have the 2nd youngest team in the league and havent even had our core playing together for a full year? LMAO damn, homie, it's so fucking obvious you'd be saying the exact opposite of what you're saying if you were a Laker fan......HORRIBLE.
they have. This is it man, soak it up lol. They arent going to top this seasons record. They have some players who MIGHT improve their game. Kobe's game will not get any better tho, obviously. 2 guards dont tend to become better when they get older.
tell that to Michael Jordan.......Kobe has been getting better with age. I don't expect him to go downhill any time soon.
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not to interrupt the argument, but I gotta chip in and say that Ginobili is NOT their only problem for the future
watching Duncan this year he looked really weak... he's naturally so good that he still could put up numbers
but in reality, even if he gets rest this offseason, he'll be a year older and probably on a team no better than this year
his days of carrying the load are over, Parker has proven to be the guy who can score every time down the floor
unfortunately I have a feeling Ginobili will continue to be nagged by this injury since it has posed a problem for a while now
watching the Spurs in the first round, some of the games they lost with only Parker running around trying to score with Duncan helping was pathetic
they need to make a lot more changes than adding Drew Gooden...
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not to interrupt the argument, but I gotta chip in and say that Ginobili is NOT their only problem for the future
watching Duncan this year he looked really weak... he's naturally so good that he still could put up numbers
but in reality, even if he gets rest this offseason, he'll be a year older and probably on a team no better than this year
his days of carrying the load are over, Parker has proven to be the guy who can score every time down the floor
unfortunately I have a feeling Ginobili will continue to be nagged by this injury since it has posed a problem for a while now
watching the Spurs in the first round, some of the games they lost with only Parker running around trying to score with Duncan helping was pathetic
they need to make a lot more changes than adding Drew Gooden...
Parker was carrying a majority of the offensive load. A lot of times, but Duncans productivity is pretty much on par with where its been the last 5 yrs. His numbers really didnt dip much at all this year. He still continues to be the focal point of the offense though when he's in the game. Its just that he is used in a way that isnt necessarily as the #1 scoring option. Parker wont be drawing double teams on the perimeter, but a lot of teams will still double Duncan which is what the Spurs are looking for. He's a good passer out of the double team. One on one, he is still gonna take almost anyone....especially on a consistant basis. Its just the way the Spurs are running things now, they arent looking for Duncan to carry them offensively. He's there to score, but more so set up everyone else especially since Parker is used as more of a scoring PG then a passing one. Ginobli I dunno about. I think he's just worn his body down. It isnt even about his age, its just his style and the amount of games (not just NBA) that he's played over the years. He can still produce, his minutes just need to be watched real closely. The Spurs will be fine though. Drew Gooden isnt the answer, but he's a piece to the puzzle. He's a way for them to still have a low-post presence even when Duncan is on the bench. If they keep this exact team, then yeah...next year will not be a title. But they should make a few moves.
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it's just whenever I saw the Spurs this year I found myself thinking how Duncan no longer has that upper hand on players
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it's just whenever I saw the Spurs this year I found myself thinking how Duncan no longer has that upper hand on players
Yeah i dunno. His knees have been bothering him this year. But I think he'll be fine for at least a couple more years...
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it's just whenever I saw the Spurs this year I found myself thinking how Duncan no longer has that upper hand on players
very true