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Title: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: acgrundy on December 02, 2008, 08:22:36 PM
So I'm 28, been into westcoast rap since the early 90's.  Love all the death row, g-funk, bay area, all the old school westcoast 90's rap.  I been on this forum for awhile, just about since start up.  I remember when I used to know all the shit coming out, be excited about all the news, knew all this info and shit.  Everyday there was many worthwhile topics in the forum.

I look at the shit these days, and at least 80% of the topics I don't give a shit about.  Hell, I don't even know who half these rappers are these days.  And damn near the other half I think are wack as hell.

Spider Loc - Goddamn, he has got so many damn threads in the forum these days.  The dude don't even have a fucking album out does he?  The guy is mediocre at best on his best fucking tracks!  How the fuck he get so much attention on here?  Is it him and his friend creating all these threads for publicity?

Bishop Lamont - Never understood the hype behind him...boring as shit imo, tried to get into him but couldn't.  Sounds like a Jay Z ripoff.  I was dissapointed when I heard dre was gonna fuck with him.

Glasses Malone - If I had to pick a favorite "new west" rapper it would be him.  but I'll still listen to a song from the 90's that I have heard 1000 times over anything he puts out.

Crooked I - what a waste of talent.  I used to always check for you, and would rush to download any song I could get my hands on.  I haven't heard any of the block obama's, HHW"s, and only listened to a few songs on bossacre.  Basically I lost interest.

Nipsey Hustle (or whatever) - so today I see several threads about him...who the hell is he?

Rome - I saw this big announcement about him getting signed...who the hell is he?

Fuck man, over half the threads are about rappers who I've known about for several years now, are considered "new west" and still don't have a fucking album out!!!  How long are you considered "new west"?

Its funny how a lot of these "new west" rappers and the young fans on here talk about the old washed up rappers and how they need to hang up the mic and let the new young "talent" take over.  Now I admit that I don't like much of the music that is put out by my old favorite rappers these days, but I got news for you: Ice cube, mc eiht, snoop dogg, ren, warren g, etc. are not the ones stopping these "new west" rappers from taking over.  News flash rappers: In order to take over, you would need to put a album out.  Say what you want about the old washed up rappers who need to retire, but these guys are putting albums out, something that seems nobody from the "new west" can do.  I think that most of the "new west" is bitter, jealous, and frustrated...which is only going to hurt their chances.  Snoop, mc eiht, cube, ren, e-40, spice 1, kurupt...these guys were hungry...they had passion for their music.  it seems like all the new west care about is becoming the next 50 cent.

All you that say snoop, cube, mc eiht, all them old guys need to retire...guess what, when they do, there will be no more westcoast rap scene.  It will be gone...history.  Ain't nobody checking for lil eazy, bishop lamont, spider loc, or crooked I...cause if they were then you bet there would be a label ready to break bread and put out an album.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on December 02, 2008, 08:25:28 PM
100% wit u. 28 also  8)
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: D-Nice on December 02, 2008, 08:27:29 PM
There is still good music out on the west. Actually more and more of the really dope shit are alot of the street albums on this website from the west but I agree with you, there is enough room for everyone to do they thing on the west.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Maxin in the Shade on December 02, 2008, 08:53:20 PM
i agree

i just cant seem to get into some of these newer cats on the scene

i always end up going back to my old albums or check for new albums from older artists
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: penenstamp on December 02, 2008, 09:39:37 PM
Back in the days they rapped because rap was their passion. These days they rap because they want to make a quick buck. That's why so many "new west" rappers suck so bad.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: D Breezy on December 02, 2008, 10:52:18 PM
jay rock, ab-soul, and k-dot that whole click is dope trust me. jay rock knows how to do matured west coast music. a lotta people dont like game but his music is the shit. i dont give a fuck what anybody say he can flow. six2 can flow like nobody else can (not west coast but still a newer rapper). g malone got some cuts especially that white lightnin mixtape. that shit was sick. young maylay got a lotta talent. check those artists out and you wont be dissappointed. almost forgot to mention mitchy slick and messy marv...
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: D Breezy on December 02, 2008, 11:07:40 PM
here some tracks

jay rock - if i die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4qrLMrM8nY

mitchy slick - dr cube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izzXjnCwkD0

mitchy slick/jay rock - paid my dues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFNf-WhCO88

ab-soul - regular nigga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv-iIe9pOl0

nipsey hussle/game - they roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBTVAufCDB4

xzibit/young maylay/wc/mc ren - roll on em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkxRzvVaHpc

tha trapp/wc - block music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSg_FYaiT9Y&feature=related






Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: streetpoetry5 on December 02, 2008, 11:26:09 PM
.i agree 4 tha most part...but some of the new west coast rappers make good music....but u dont need to go creating conflict...with those who went b4 u....if u really had some balls...u would put the blame where it needs 2 b.....and stop making scapegoats out of snoop dre cube etc ....half them new west niggaz in they 30 s anyway....who they calling old....miles davis made music till the day he died....why does rap have to b lead by teenagers(souljah boy and his slavery comments frighten me ???)......and y do we keep pressuring tha legends 2 retire....what other musical genre does this.....rap got it backwards....
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Nutty on December 02, 2008, 11:36:14 PM
Pretty much feel the same way you do, same age too. 90s rap  8)
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: acgrundy on December 02, 2008, 11:38:31 PM
here some tracks

jay rock - if i die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4qrLMrM8nY

mitchy slick - dr cube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izzXjnCwkD0

mitchy slick/jay rock - paid my dues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFNf-WhCO88

ab-soul - regular nigga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv-iIe9pOl0

nipsey hussle/game - they roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBTVAufCDB4

xzibit/young maylay/wc/mc ren - roll on em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkxRzvVaHpc

tha trapp/wc - block music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSg_FYaiT9Y&feature=related


Yeah, the roll on em track is dope.

LOL @ calling mitchy slick and messy marv new.  Messy put out albums in the 90's and Mitchy slick's first album came out years ago...they are hardly new...about as new as crooked I.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Elano on December 02, 2008, 11:47:21 PM
So I'm 28, been into westcoast rap since the early 90's.  Love all the death row, g-funk, bay area, all the old school westcoast 90's rap.  I been on this forum for awhile, just about since start up.  I remember when I used to know all the shit coming out, be excited about all the news, knew all this info and shit.  Everyday there was many worthwhile topics in the forum.

I look at the shit these days, and at least 80% of the topics I don't give a shit about.  Hell, I don't even know who half these rappers are these days.  And damn near the other half I think are wack as hell.

Spider Loc - Goddamn, he has got so many damn threads in the forum these days.  The dude don't even have a fucking album out does he?  The guy is mediocre at best on his best fucking tracks!  How the fuck he get so much attention on here?  Is it him and his friend creating all these threads for publicity?

Bishop Lamont - Never understood the hype behind him...boring as shit imo, tried to get into him but couldn't.  Sounds like a Jay Z ripoff.  I was dissapointed when I heard dre was gonna fuck with him.

Glasses Malone - If I had to pick a favorite "new west" rapper it would be him.  but I'll still listen to a song from the 90's that I have heard 1000 times over anything he puts out.

Crooked I - what a waste of talent.  I used to always check for you, and would rush to download any song I could get my hands on.  I haven't heard any of the block obama's, HHW"s, and only listened to a few songs on bossacre.  Basically I lost interest.

Nipsey Hustle (or whatever) - so today I see several threads about him...who the hell is he?

Rome - I saw this big announcement about him getting signed...who the hell is he?

Fuck man, over half the threads are about rappers who I've known about for several years now, are considered "new west" and still don't have a fucking album out!!!  How long are you considered "new west"?

Its funny how a lot of these "new west" rappers and the young fans on here talk about the old washed up rappers and how they need to hang up the mic and let the new young "talent" take over.  Now I admit that I don't like much of the music that is put out by my old favorite rappers these days, but I got news for you: Ice cube, mc eiht, snoop dogg, ren, warren g, etc. are not the ones stopping these "new west" rappers from taking over.  News flash rappers: In order to take over, you would need to put a album out.  Say what you want about the old washed up rappers who need to retire, but these guys are putting albums out, something that seems nobody from the "new west" can do.  I think that most of the "new west" is bitter, jealous, and frustrated...which is only going to hurt their chances.  Snoop, mc eiht, cube, ren, e-40, spice 1, kurupt...these guys were hungry...they had passion for their music.  it seems like all the new west care about is becoming the next 50 cent.

All you that say snoop, cube, mc eiht, all them old guys need to retire...guess what, when they do, there will be no more westcoast rap scene.  It will be gone...history.  Ain't nobody checking for lil eazy, bishop lamont, spider loc, or crooked I...cause if they were then you bet there would be a label ready to break bread and put out an album.

I know what you're talkin about,out of all these new rappers i just like nipsey hussle,spider loc and all the others are wack to me.
And i still believe in a great Knoc-turn'al comeback  8)
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: We Fly High on December 03, 2008, 12:58:56 AM
agree completely.. even though i find myself listening to less and less 90's rap as the year goes by as well (death row, gfunk, bay shit).

i'm 25, so i know me and you share similar tastes in music.

so the artists i believe you should check for would be: Problem, Bad Lucc, Terrace Martin, Blu, Pacific Division.

Blu and Pacifici Division have probably some of the biggest buzz LA has seen in awhile. they make Excellent hip hop. QUALITY.

Bad Lucc and Problem can just straight rap, and fuck shit up. Bad Lucc is easily top prospect on the west for me, in the g-rap realm.

I almost see Terrace as one of the backbones of the west right now. He's got everyone stepping their game up, Quik, Snoop, Kurupt, etc..
And he brings everyone together on the same page. Bounce Rock Skate, and I'm Toe Up Remix. Got a whole album with Murs coming out...
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: DJ-AGE™ on December 03, 2008, 01:20:48 AM
Im 28 also dude but there is a gang a talent out there i feel what you saying cause we grew through that whole NWA, Dr Dre, Deathrow era etc but like i said you need to give the new cats a listen cause they do got some talent man its jus tryin to break the surface a lil more with the fans still stuck in time...unless we accept and move on the west will never move forward IMO...but in saying that the west is really alive and kicking right now 100%
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Dre-Day on December 03, 2008, 01:35:33 AM
it won't hurt when snoop retires, trust me
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Lord Funk on December 03, 2008, 02:16:19 AM
Agree wholeheartedly with acgrundy.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Booz on December 03, 2008, 02:21:02 AM
it won't hurt when snoop retires, trust me
But will it actually change something? Doubt it.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: You Ain't Shit on December 03, 2008, 02:31:29 AM
Agree wholeheartedly with acgrundy.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Birdie on December 03, 2008, 02:38:58 AM
I've been listening to rap music about the first Eastsidaz' release. But I agree with you, completely.

But... Detroit is huge these days, fuckloads of great music out there.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on December 03, 2008, 02:50:45 AM
i agree

i just cant seem to get into some of these newer cats on the scene

i always end up going back to my old albums or check for new albums from older artists

yeah, and sometimes I don't check new albums from older artists anymore.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: f0n|{sta on December 03, 2008, 03:04:45 AM
i agree

i just cant seem to get into some of these newer cats on the scene

i always end up going back to my old albums or check for new albums from older artists

word !
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: o g s u e s o n e on December 03, 2008, 05:59:37 AM
i agree

i just cant seem to get into some of these newer cats on the scene

i always end up going back to my old albums or check for new albums from older artists

thats how it is, i´m 33 now and still lookin for some lost tapes music lol
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: gio™fugahoo on December 03, 2008, 06:02:44 AM
100% wit u. 28 also  8)
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: David Gutterman on December 03, 2008, 06:49:53 AM
i'm 27 and i agree

except on bishop he got some skills

and I think ''new west''  means  ''no album''




Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Westcoastfanatic on December 03, 2008, 09:03:22 AM
I'm old and I don't give a fuck bout all these new rappers. All I care bout is Detox.
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Crockett on December 03, 2008, 09:35:29 PM
i agree

i just cant seem to get into some of these newer cats on the scene

i always end up going back to my old albums or check for new albums from older artists

word !

100% with yall on this one.... 9 of the 18 albums i have coped so far from the artists in 08 have had a majour hit in the 90s....
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: streetpoetry5 on December 04, 2008, 02:10:04 AM
so sensitive chad... :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: mlk93 on December 04, 2008, 03:39:54 AM
There is still good music out on the west. Actually more and more of the really dope shit are alot of the street albums on this website from the west but I agree with you, there is enough room for everyone to do they thing on the west.

i'm agree  ;)
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: lawz2760 on December 04, 2008, 03:58:25 AM
I just listen to the people I know, only listen to new artist when I am with someone who is listening to. Its not just west coast rap but hip hop in general that I don't reallyl listen to new artist anymore. To be honest most of the older artist that I like dont put out music that I enjoy anymore, its pretty rare just like 2-3 songs on a cd
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: KrazySumwhat on December 04, 2008, 06:32:05 AM
 Iam in the same boat. iam 27 and i havent been feeling or been all that excited about any new artist for quite a while. I cant say that theres much that i look foward to with westcoast hip hop other than older artists.
 I still buy all the snoop and dogg pound stuff. The ymay not be as good as they were but they still put alot of good music and they do put out alot of good albums as well as mix tapes.
 I like stuff that RasKass and Del did this year. I loved Numbskulls album an Yukmouths album was pretty good.
 Yeah, all rappers taht are past their hey day but still better than any of the new rappers.
 I feel the same with crooked i, dont get me wrong, if he dose eventually put out an album, i will support it but i've lost some intrest also. Iam still impressed as hell with his lyrics but i only bother listening to all his new stuff once or twice and i went back and listend to him rip appart the l.b.c 19th st complimation. he dosent flow as aggresively anymore.
 I did quite like the dubb union album, thats dope. I like Terrance Martins production also.
 I still think DPG are the best. Raskass and Hierogliphics always come nice.
 Problem sound pretty good and i like Roscoe.
 The game i didnt like his 3rd album.
 Anyway, i think west coast rap suffers becasue the gangsta rap thing got played out and copied and made fun of alot, like parodys(sp?) an that. The really talented lyrical rappers dont get respected because they aint gangsta and the people that like more intelligant/meaningful/non gamgsta rap dont like em cos they westcoast. westcoast rappers dont even have their own sound anymore, they all rap over south style beats and so south style songs, club songs and that.
 Rappers mad at snoop for changing and mad at Daz n Kurupt for staying the same. peole cant make their minds up.
 At the end of the day, no one can replace 2pac and who's gonna drop an first album better than snoop?
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: Hatesrats™ on December 04, 2008, 08:47:35 AM
I'm with you bro...
Once Detox drop's, I'm out!

I'll check for my old school cat's & Bump my 80's/90's shit I'm DONE!
Nothing coming out by any "NEW WEST" artist is worth a listen, they ain't saying anything new
I can't pop my twenty something year old N.W.A. album in and hear.

Invested too much time in Crooked I...
Dude is our age and still claiming "New West" IMO he cheapen's himself being associated with these
weaker rapper's, just come out with an album so you can let us old school cat's out the game.
Put us out of our misery Crook, Drop B.O.S.S. and we out!
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: BigEEE on December 04, 2008, 08:59:05 AM
true spit, but I really think in 2009, a new fresh set of rappers should come in and repersent the the WEST. The so called "new-west" rappers are boring (with the exception of maybe 1 or 2).
Title: Re: Just wondering about the older fans opinions...
Post by: penenstamp on December 04, 2008, 09:09:53 AM
Invested too much time in Crooked I...
Dude is our age and still claiming "New West" IMO he cheapen's himself being associated with these
weaker rapper's, just come out with an album so you can let us old school cat's out the game.
Put us out of our misery Crook, Drop B.O.S.S. and we out!


Look at his face. Don't be surprised if he's 10 or 15 years older than you.