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Title: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: S P I C E on December 07, 2008, 01:00:38 AM
Looking back on this season its amazing to see how dominating Barry Bonds was this year, every night he was getting walked 3 or 4 times while getting 1 strike to hit all game and he always hit it out, I cant imagine a better offensive year.   

AVG-.362
HR - 45
RBI -101

With 232 Walks!!! How in the fuck does a human put up 45 Homers and 101 RBI's while walking 232 times, that is absolutely unreal.
His On Base Percentage was .609! That is honestly the sickest, thing I have ever seen, his Slugging % was .812!  Insane.

There was a thread about this on espn.com and something I didn't know was in this year Bonds reached base 376 times while having 373 at bats LOL, the only time ever in Baseball history when a player has more bases reached then at bats, unreal.  Also in this year Bonds had more Home Runs (45) then Strikeouts (41)  :o :o

This has to be the best offensive season ever, we will never see another season as dominating as this ever, and for all the haters, what about all the pitchers using roids during these years and as the Mitchell report showed steroid use was RAMPANT during this era, All I'm saying is Bonds is on a other level, plain sick.  I honestly don't think we will ever see another Baseball player as good ever, and how can this year he had in 2004 ever be topped?
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: OchoCinco on December 07, 2008, 01:03:51 AM
im no baseball expert but dam those are some nice stats.
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 07, 2008, 07:37:59 AM
babe ruth 1921: .378 BA, .847 slg %, 119 Xtra-base hits, 59 HR, 171 RBi, 177 runs, 457 total bases, 145 walks, 17 sb....154 game seasons btw

he SHOULD HAVE 60 home runs that year but the ump ruled one as a ground rule double...but that set up the dramaic 1927 season when he did get 60

*bold = all time records
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 07, 2008, 07:40:17 AM
also my 1930 season aint bad



and Teddy Ballgame 1941, Cobb 1911, HONUS WAGNER 1908, Mantle 1956

all these w/o roids
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 07, 2008, 08:32:28 AM
i have put no * next to Barry's name! ;D

hes in the top 5, maybe 3 all-time in my book! 8)
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 07, 2008, 08:44:30 AM
i have put no * next to Barry's name! ;D

hes in the top 5, maybe 3 all-time in my book! 8)

babe ruth
lou gehrig
ted williams
ty cobb
josh gibson
mickey mantle
hank aaron
joe dimaggio
honus wagner
willie mays
a-rod

me
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: eS El Duque on December 07, 2008, 10:10:36 AM

With 232 Walks!!! How in the fuck does a human put up 45 Homers and 101 RBI's while walking 232 times, that is absolutely unreal.
His On Base Percentage was .609! That is honestly the sickest, thing I have ever seen, his Slugging % was .812!  Insane.


Human on roids


Btw...Ruth has the best offensive season by any player ever. So no...Bonds didn't have the best season ever.
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: OchoCinco on December 07, 2008, 10:35:09 AM
ill bet if u put a good player from now in babes ruths time of player he would put up huge numbers liek that too. times change and so does the caliber of players
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 07, 2008, 10:56:47 AM
i have put no * next to Barry's name! ;D

hes in the top 5, maybe 3 all-time in my book! 8)

babe ruth
lou gehrig
ted williams
ty cobb
josh gibson
mickey mantle
hank aaron
joe dimaggio
honus wagner
willie mays
a-rod

me

Babe, Ted, Willie>>>Barry

then Barry is up for debate for fourth; A-Rod will eventually be top 3 before his career is over.
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: herpes on December 07, 2008, 01:47:16 PM
Anything Barroid after 2000 doesn't count IMO.
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: herpes on December 07, 2008, 01:53:37 PM
And Hack already posted the greatest season ever, Ruth in 1921.  If you are a baseball fan you need to read the year Babe Ruth hit 104 Home runs which also goes into great detail about the 21 season and pretty much explains why Ruth is the greatest to ever play the game.  It also goes into detail about Ruth not facing African Americans, which he did but not in regulation games.  It also has a story about in a barn storming game where Ruth went yard off Stachel Paige.
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: thisoneguy360 on December 07, 2008, 02:01:42 PM
Statistically probably yes..amazing season
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: Shallow on December 07, 2008, 04:21:02 PM
ill bet if u put a good player from now in babes ruths time of player he would put up huge numbers liek that too. times change and so does the caliber of players


I've had this argument before, and yes while the calibre of baseball has grown over the years based on simple evolution there still are many factors that make the 1920s game very hard to hit the ball well;

1) Half the teams means double the aces on each team

2) No other sports to get into means all the kids that would probably get into Quarterbacking got into pitching instead, making the competition greater and making the finished product strong

3) Spit balls, and whatever the fuck else you could use to make that ball slide, were allowed back then

4) The balls and bats are better now

5) Contrary to popular myth, the human arm has not evolved in the last 100 years. Walter johnson could throw that ball over 100 mph back then and he wasn't above and beyond all other pitchers

7) Fields have been shrinking over the years to make HRs more common. Yankee stadium was once like 490 down the center.

6) Yeah I know, there were no black pitchers for Babe Ruth to hit against, but how many black pitchers did Bonds hit against really?


Anyway, you factor everything in and I'll bet a .250 15 HR guy now would be a .250 15 HR guy in the 20s.
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on December 07, 2008, 04:58:09 PM
give ruth:

-better doctors
-better medicine
-smaller stadiums
-no spitballers
-video's to watch on pitchers
-airplane travel


he does better than bonds
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 07, 2008, 05:34:09 PM
give ruth:

-better doctors
-better medicine
-smaller stadiums
-no spitballers
-video's to watch on pitchers
-airplane travel


he does better than bonds

Ruth would have somewhere near 2000 career homeruns! ;D
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on December 08, 2008, 05:37:46 AM
babe ruth 1921: .378 BA, .847 slg %, 119 Xtra-base hits, 59 HR, 171 RBi, 177 runs, 457 total bases, 145 walks, 17 sb....154 game seasons btw



*bold = all time records

119 XBH is a better feat than 232 walks...shit..he prolly coulda walked 232+ times, but instead he chose to smack the shit outta the ball. 

babe ruth = GOAT
Title: Re: Barry Bonds year in 2004, the best ever?
Post by: Infamous Josedy on December 10, 2008, 09:16:54 AM
..he prolly coulda walked 232+ times, but instead he chose to smack the shit outta the ball. 

babe ruth = GOAT

That the truth, like Vlad. Instead of taking a ball this motherfucka hit a ball that BOUNCED off the dirt AND got a double out of it.
And yea, dont bring up 04 and then have the gall to call everybody with common sense a "hater" for stating that Bonds was on the juice.
What gets me hot is the fact that NATURALLY, Barry Bonds was a gifted athlete who should have been battling for batting average year after year, but instead got greedy and wanted to go down in history as the best ever. Funny how shit comes back to bite a nigga in the ass.