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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: R-Tistic on December 26, 2008, 04:37:48 PM
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I don't care for too much Rock n Roll, but damn, this song goes hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJqNxKdgyqM
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Good tune.
It's all Rock and Roll to me.
Public Enemy No. 1 by PE isn't any less of a rock and roll song to me than Come Together is.
Malcolm McLaren was the manager for th New York Dolls and the Sex Pistols and was a key factor in the conception of Punk. In the early 80s he was releasing solo albums that sounded like this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irbG9cZDLgA
He's Rock and Roll and so is that track. I'm not saying he created that sound. I'm saying that the sound belongs to the Rock and Roll spectrum as much as the sounds of the Sex Pistols, Red Hot Chili Peppers, or Depeche Mode do.
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a classic
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beatles are the shit. Nobody else has more good songs than the beatles.
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Elvis Presley
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Classic.One Of My Fav. Songs Ever.
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Elvis Presley
Maybe, but Beatles usually win that one out for writing their own songs. I'm not THAT big a Beatles fan to always praise them like some do, but I generally don't prefer experimental music, and their less experimental music is either too soft or too poppy. Not that I don't love their music. I just don't have them on a pedestal.
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Elvis is the most overrated arist of all time.He was basically a pop artist like britney spears that had his songs written and everything done for him he just provided the voice.
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I think that Elvis was just the first pop icon, thats why he is soo big. He was the first big artist to dance and i guess was the first sex symbol.
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The MJ version was dope as fuck aswell
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Elvis is the most overrated arist of all time.He was basically a pop artist like britney spears that had his songs written and everything done for him he just provided the voice.
Comparing Elvis to Spears is just wrong. Firstly the early Sun Sessions Elvis was hugely respected in the black music community and to this day those records are placed very high. Second, he started something completely new in the mainstream music world. Spears was someone in an established field who got popular. Elvis was the catalyst for a new field to become established. Thirdly, saying he just provided the voice is like saying Hendrix just provided the guitar. The voice is an instrument and you can compose for an instrument and be considered a genius or you can just play the fuck out of it and achieve the same status. Some of Jimi's most creative work were covers of other songs. Watchtower's melody was written by Dylan but Jimi gave it life. Listen to some of the original tracks Elvis redid. The songs are given new life with Elvis and he pretty much produced them all.
Little Richard had most of his songs written for him, but he was still a musical genius.
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I don't agree. Hound Dog sounds better with Big Momma. Additionally, Chuck Berry was dancing before the King. He's white so he's got the credit.
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I don't agree. Hound Dog sounds better with Big Momma. Additionally, Chuck Berry was dancing before the King. He's white so he's got the credit.
Big Momma didn't write it either. I never said it was given better life. I said new live. The versions are very different. It's a new song with Elvis. He did something new with it. That's the point.
You talk like Chuck Berry invented dance moves and Elvis stole them. They didn't even dance the same. Elvis danced like the people in his neighborhood danced. He was from a black area and liked the black clubs. He danced like he learned to dance. He was given credit because he became popular with it. Michael Jackson was very black when he was given all the credit for the Moonwalk, and a bunch of other things. He didn't invent any of them. But he became popular doing them and he gets the credit. Yes if Chuck Berry was white and Elvis was black Chuck Berry would have been bigger than a black Elvis (not having sex with 14 year old native American girls would have helped to). It's a white country, what do you expect? If Nas was white and Eminem was black the ghettos would call Em better, because the ghettos are black areas. It's natural to gravitate towards your own and identify with those who look like you. Not everyone is like that, but the majority is.
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elvis went to war, he didnt dodge the draft or try to use his status against it. random fact.
who was ya'll's fav artist from the 1950s?
any perry como fans?
or Hoagy carmichael?
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elvis went to war, he didnt dodge the draft or try to use his status against it. random fact.
who was ya'll's fav artist from the 1950s?
any perry como fans?
or Hoagy carmichael?
Perry Como wore a bow tie. You could never convict a man with bow tie.
Or was it a cardigan?
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Beatles are wack... actually most all 60's and 70's music is wack... really anything before Phill Collins is wack!
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Beatles are wack... actually most all 60's and 70's music is wack... really anything before Phill Collins is wack!
you sicken me.
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Beatles are wack... actually most all 60's and 70's music is wack... really anything before Phill Collins is wack!
Phil Collins is a God among men.
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The Beatles were amazing '67 and after.
Elvis is the most overrated arist of all time.He was basically a pop artist like britney spears that had his songs written and everything done for him he just provided the voice.
That wouldn't necessarily make him overrated if he put his own life, ideas, and creativity into the songs he sang unlike your Britney Spears and other modern pop singers who have it all manufactured and set for them.
Same with Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Frank Sinatra, Johnny Cash, Elton John, most early motown artists etc. they barely wrote anything but whatever they did to the songs they were given or chose to sing their creativity made those songs great.
elvis went to war, he didnt dodge the draft or try to use his status against it. random fact.
who was ya'll's fav artist from the 1950s?
any perry como fans?
or Hoagy carmichael?
I'm more of a Buddy Holly, Roy Orbison, Chess Records, Sun Records person.
For some reason i can't get into the "swing-jazz" type stuff.
Beatles are wack... actually most all 60's and 70's music is wack... really anything before Phill Collins is wack!
I gotta give it to you. At least its not everything except for hip hop is garbage anymore.
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what about the Happy Days themesong?
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The MJ version was dope as fuck aswell
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The MJ version was dope as fuck aswell
hey what syour fav Hoagy Carmichael song?
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beatles are my fav band, this fuckin song is so dope, i love lennon and his voice but what does it for me in the song are the drums. elvis is dope as fuck as well, and that them sun sessions are the fuckin sickest
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oh and phil collins is corny, so is genesis
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Beatles are wack... actually most all 60's and 70's music is wack... really anything before Phill Collins is wack!
wow.
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oh and phil collins is corny, so is genesis
Pre-Collins Genesis wasn't corny at all. May a bit overrated by some but still a solid band with a great body of work. Even some of the Collins era stuff is pretty good.
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Yeah Genesis isn't for everyone. Especially Peter Gabriel era. "Watcher Of The Skies", "Carpet Crawlers", "The Knife", and "I Know What I Like In Your Wardrobe" are great songs.
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Yeah Genesis isn't for everyone. Especially Peter Gabriel era. "Watcher Of The Skies", "Carpet Crawlers", "The Knife", and "I Know What I Like In Your Wardrobe" are great songs.
UHHHH.... what? Those songs fuckin suck. You sound like someone who can't say they like Eminem without saying they like the Infinite LP or his rare tracks like "Green and Gold" or "Trife Thieves", instead of just coming out and saying that you like "Lose Yourself", "Stan", or "Forgot About Dre".
Why don't you just come out and say that "One More Night", "Take Me Home", "In The Air Tonight", "Groovy Kind Of Love" etc.. are great songs!
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Yeah Genesis isn't for everyone. Especially Peter Gabriel era. "Watcher Of The Skies", "Carpet Crawlers", "The Knife", and "I Know What I Like In Your Wardrobe" are great songs.
UHHHH.... what? Those songs fuckin suck. You sound like someone who can't say they like Eminem without saying they like the Infinite LP or his rare tracks like "Green and Gold" or "Trife Thieves", instead of just coming out and saying that you like "Lose Yourself", "Stan", or "Forgot About Dre".
Why don't you just come out and say that "One More Night", "Take Me Home", "In The Air Tonight", "Groovy Kind Of Love" etc.. are great songs!
Eminem Infinite and and Eminem MMLP are still both Eminem. The Gabriel Genesis and the Phil Collins solo stuff aren't even close to the same genre of music. You may as well compare R Kelly with Jimi Hendrix, or Nellie with Chuck D. Gabriel and Collins both sing and play instruments. That's where the similarity ends. I'm not even saying it's a bad thing to prefer Collins. I'm just saying there is no point comparing them. Unless we are talking late 80s Gabriel.
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yep awesome song, i went through and played a buncha beatles songs today
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Eminem Infinite and and Eminem MMLP are still both Eminem. The Gabriel Genesis and the Phil Collins solo stuff aren't even close to the same genre of music. You may as well compare R Kelly with Jimi Hendrix, or Nellie with Chuck D. Gabriel and Collins both sing and play instruments. That's where the similarity ends. I'm not even saying it's a bad thing to prefer Collins. I'm just saying there is no point comparing them. Unless we are talking late 80s Gabriel.
You didn't get the analogy I was making. I obviously wasn't trying to compare Eminem to Phill Collins.
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Eminem Infinite and and Eminem MMLP are still both Eminem. The Gabriel Genesis and the Phil Collins solo stuff aren't even close to the same genre of music. You may as well compare R Kelly with Jimi Hendrix, or Nellie with Chuck D. Gabriel and Collins both sing and play instruments. That's where the similarity ends. I'm not even saying it's a bad thing to prefer Collins. I'm just saying there is no point comparing them. Unless we are talking late 80s Gabriel.
You didn't get the analogy I was making. I obviously wasn't trying to compare Eminem to Phill Collins.
I didn't say you were. You were comparing old Genesis music with later Phil Collins music. Eminem pre-SSLP is a little different yeah but it's still similar enough to remain in the same genre of rap. Gabriel and Collins for a time were in completely different sides of the spectrum.
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I didn't say you were. You were comparing old Genesis music with later Phil Collins music. Eminem pre-SSLP is a little different yeah but it's still similar enough to remain in the same genre of rap. Gabriel and Collins for a time were in completely different sides of the spectrum.
Nope. You still don't get it. I was comparing you to people who think they have to mention something less popular or something that is more obscure to sound cool or something, instead of just being upfront.
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Just because he says that doesn't mean he's trying to be cool.true a lot of people do that but some people have odd tastes in musics
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I didn't say you were. You were comparing old Genesis music with later Phil Collins music. Eminem pre-SSLP is a little different yeah but it's still similar enough to remain in the same genre of rap. Gabriel and Collins for a time were in completely different sides of the spectrum.
Nope. You still don't get it. I was comparing you to people who think they have to mention something less popular or something that is more obscure to sound cool or something, instead of just being upfront.
like you mentioning other songs by kriss kross when everyone was talkin about how dope jump was?
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I didn't say you were. You were comparing old Genesis music with later Phil Collins music. Eminem pre-SSLP is a little different yeah but it's still similar enough to remain in the same genre of rap. Gabriel and Collins for a time were in completely different sides of the spectrum.
Nope. You still don't get it. I was comparing you to people who think they have to mention something less popular or something that is more obscure to sound cool or something, instead of just being upfront.
So what am I trying to not be upfront about? I didn't even mention Genesis or Phil Collins first. Whiteboy said how Genesis and Phil Collins were corny. I merely agreed that Phil Collins can be corny but Genesis, even with Phil, wasn't all that corny. Please show me where I'm trying to show I like something obscure in an attempt to be cool. My first line about the Gabriel Genesis after I mentioned it included the word overrated.
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So what am I trying to not be upfront about? I didn't even mention Genesis or Phil Collins first. Whiteboy said how Genesis and Phil Collins were corny. I merely agreed that Phil Collins can be corny but Genesis, even with Phil, wasn't all that corny. Please show me where I'm trying to show I like something obscure in an attempt to be cool. My first line about the Gabriel Genesis after I mentioned it included the word overrated.
you do it in pretty much every one of your posts
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So what am I trying to not be upfront about? I didn't even mention Genesis or Phil Collins first. Whiteboy said how Genesis and Phil Collins were corny. I merely agreed that Phil Collins can be corny but Genesis, even with Phil, wasn't all that corny. Please show me where I'm trying to show I like something obscure in an attempt to be cool. My first line about the Gabriel Genesis after I mentioned it included the word overrated.
you do it in pretty much every one of your posts
I may like a lot of obscure things with regards to music but I could care less about trying to use obscure tastes in an attempt to look cool. In rap my favorite was and and is still is Tupac.
To go back to your Eminem-Infinite album, it is by far my least favourite of all his work (except Encore). My favorite Em album and I would argue was his best album, and I have, is The Eminem Show.
You really have no argument. You have shown no evidence. You just made an open statement. And the fact that I like you is the only reason I responded to it.