West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Jaydc555 on January 04, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
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Its hate threads like these ones about crooked and bishop that show exactly what's wrong.In the south they don't have this problem and that's why they succeed.Why can't everyone just support the whole coast.Just because bishop and game don't like eachother or crook and snoop don't doesn't mean you have to feel the same.How can you expect the west to do anything when everyone won't work with eachother right down the fans.Stop acting like theser artists are your friends.they aren't.just support good music and stop basing your tastes on how an artist feels.like bishop said...grow up
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it's like this everywhere foo
theres a shitload of people hating onthe south just go to a southern cnn website or something an u will see people hatin on other trust me everyone hates NY always blows up again and they are the ones who HATE THE MOST.
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yeah its like this everyone trust me Ive been to different states and its the same typa shit not every single place but other regions have this same "virus" if thats what we gon call it
its all good
history shows we were once on top, problem is we dont have good representation
but we have wc/ice cube that are doin it big for us, the real street soldiers!
game is a commercial rapper, he doesnt put it down for us the same way as WC!
thats what we need, that westcoast mentality that we once had, and when we had it, we waz on top!
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They do need 2 unite like the south but that'll never happen.
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why unite, why not jus release dope muzik?
why cant crooked jus be better than snoop and everyone goes to sleep at night?
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That and look at the ogs of the south people like ugk and 8ball and mjg and scarface.they make music for the south.they make music that represents who they are and where their from.they work with younger artists from the south and show them love.Snoop doesn't do this he makes music that sounds like it was made for the south and he doesn't help the younger generation.I wish the west had some real people to represent it.even ice cubes last two albums sounded southern.Imagine if people like snoop and cube worked with new artists.I wish the west had people like ugk to represent.
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but look at face, he does his own muzik and minds his own muzik
his legacy-solid as a rock, his album drops.
thats what im sayin muthafuckas need to do what they gotta do!!
crooked would look like a bitch if he bow'd down to snoop for a release date, even askin for 1 is a FUCK YOU, SIDES SNOOP WOULDNT PUT IT OUT!
if others did it, why does crooked (possibly the best we have) have to bow down to get a deal?
is that really gon get his album out? nah doubt it
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Face embraces other southern artists and makes southern music.westcoat ogs don't.
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yeah to who he thinks are dope, but hes also got his fucked up attitude and he keeps it street (lil troy)
he always gave his fans what they wanted
snoop changed up for mtv
game changed for mtv
jayo felony never released shit
sly boogy?
crooked?
ice cube went to movies but he came back wit heat
wc-brought heat
Face embraces other southern artists and makes southern music.westcoat ogs don't.
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Face embraces other southern artists and makes southern music.westcoat ogs don't.
LIKE WHO every single OG west rapper HELPS cube did it with da lench mob short khop kausion k dee mack 10
dre with snoop warren g tha dogg pound eminem
snoop tha eastsidaz lil c style western union
i mean im just tired of people saying that niggas from the west dont help when all they have done is help man its the newbies job to get some exposure like forreal all the OG's are old and have already borught out new people now those people who were brought out by the new people have to bring some more out because the older g's already did that they dont have to keep bringin people out like that. ya smell me mayne like foreals dogg too short already had his time with the dangerous crew now tell me who is he bringin out nobody why because he already di his thang.
see what im saying i have bad punctuation but fuck it.
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All you did was list a bunch of artists snoop came out with.he didn't launch help them.and I'm talking about working with people outside your own camp.ugk worked with everyone.name one southern artist that didn't get help on a track from bun b.if your not from snoops camp or came up with him he doesn't give a shit.ice cube is a bit better I mean hell he did a track with spider loc.
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The west coast game is missing someone who can just come in and do some dope ass, head banging, bass shaken, everybody boogie music. Instead of trying to mimic Dre, why not create a new sound. Lets get some new blood in the game, hopefully Nipsey Hussle does it big this year.
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The westcoast ogs will help you if your on their label sure.because they can make money off of it.but they have no interest in working with people they can't make money off of.that's the truth.why you think snoop down talks crooked I?because crooked left the dpg camp.
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All you did was list a bunch of artists snoop came out with.he didn't launch help them.and I'm talking about working with people outside your own camp.ugk worked with everyone.name one southern artist that didn't get help on a track from bun b.if your not from snoops camp or came up with him he doesn't give a shit.ice cube is a bit better I mean hell he did a track with spider loc.
how in the fuck did he not help launch the western union or tha eastsidaz those were his artists those artists shoulda done somthing by now and should have they own people coming out
he came out with them menaing the same dman thing sherlock
came out with=launching
and working with people outside your camp
all the songs he did with eminem CHINGY young bleed too short scarface fuckin wu tang clan
come on now dont act like snoop never been featured on other peoples stuff
its kinda hard to get in contact with super legendary peopel you know
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Those are people from different coasts.I'm talking about working with artists from the west.and don't get started on eastsidaz I mean your talking about the group snoop gave no money to and that's why tray deee calls snoop a bitch now
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real shit!!!!
snoops a bitch!!
Face embraces other southern artists and makes southern music.westcoat ogs don't.
LIKE WHO every single OG west rapper HELPS cube did it with da lench mob short khop kausion k dee mack 10
dre with snoop warren g tha dogg pound eminem
snoop tha eastsidaz lil c style western union
i mean im just tired of people saying that niggas from the west dont help when all they have done is help man its the newbies job to get some exposure like forreal all the OG's are old and have already borught out new people now those people who were brought out by the new people have to bring some more out because the older g's already did that they dont have to keep bringin people out like that. ya smell me mayne like foreals dogg too short already had his time with the dangerous crew now tell me who is he bringin out nobody why because he already di his thang.
see what im saying i have bad punctuation but fuck it.
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And soopafly has been snoops right hand man for how many years and the only bone he gets thrown is a group album with no push behind them?its sad
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Those are people from different coasts.I'm talking about working with artists from the west.and don't get started on eastsidaz I mean your talking about the group snoop gave no money to and that's why tray deee calls snoop a bitch now
but still did he not launch they careers you wouldnt know who the fuck tray dee an goldie is without snoop maybe even with tha dogg pound come on dogg he has done alot of shit some fucked up but he brought them out an gave them exposure tha eastsidaz was a huge success an what did they do after that shit tray did a solo album and was it successful and snoop was even featured on it come on now.
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to a certain extent
if big tray deee wasnt the dope lyricist that he is, they wouldnt have been as successful.look who is more known outta the two:?
big tray deee is IMO
or
goldie loc
so yeah snoop helped them but big tray deee has commercial appeal (one of the very few) but yet hes still str8 westcoast wit it. thats the problem wit his new groups, they dont have commercial appeal for a commercial typa success like eastsidaz had!
Those are people from different coasts.I'm talking about working with artists from the west.and don't get started on eastsidaz I mean your talking about the group snoop gave no money to and that's why tray deee calls snoop a bitch now
but still did he not launch they careers you wouldnt know who the fuck tray dee an goldie is without snoop maybe even with tha dogg pound come on dogg he has done alot of shit some fucked up but he brought them out an gave them exposure tha eastsidaz was a huge success an what did they do after that shit tray did a solo album and was it successful and snoop was even featured on it come on now.
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real shit!!!!
snoops a bitch!!
Face embraces other southern artists and makes southern music.westcoat ogs don't.
LIKE WHO every single OG west rapper HELPS cube did it with da lench mob short khop kausion k dee mack 10
dre with snoop warren g tha dogg pound eminem
snoop tha eastsidaz lil c style western union
i mean im just tired of people saying that niggas from the west dont help when all they have done is help man its the newbies job to get some exposure like forreal all the OG's are old and have already borught out new people now those people who were brought out by the new people have to bring some more out because the older g's already did that they dont have to keep bringin people out like that. ya smell me mayne like foreals dogg too short already had his time with the dangerous crew now tell me who is he bringin out nobody why because he already di his thang.
see what im saying i have bad punctuation but fuck it.
i understand that but thats not the point bro
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All people like snoop need to do is say hey this kid over here is dope.then all the snoop fans would check for that artist.why do you think no limit was so successful.everybody featured on eachothers albums and they showed support.instead of fans bickering about who's hot and who's better then who show some support for the whole coast.how can you be on.a westcoast forum and not support the coast.if you only want to support one artist then go on that artists forum and stop hating
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I mean just think if they cut the petty shit out and game bishop crooked and snoop worked together.they would make great fucking music.I think most people would rather hear that then that sexual eruption or the game working with ne yo
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jus cuz its negative talk dont mean its hate tho!
if we are askin for a crooked album and no bullshit "BOSS" moves that hes makin, why is that hate?
damn I wish I was the mc he was, and be in demand at the same rate that he is!
All people like snoop need to do is say hey this kid over here is dope.then all the snoop fans would check for that artist.why do you think no limit was so successful.everybody featured on eachothers albums and they showed support.instead of fans bickering about who's hot and who's better then who show some support for the whole coast.how can you be on.a westcoast forum and not support the coast.if you only want to support one artist then go on that artists forum and stop hating
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All people like snoop need to do is say hey this kid over here is dope.then all the snoop fans would check for that artist.why do you think no limit was so successful.everybody featured on eachothers albums and they showed support.instead of fans bickering about who's hot and who's better then who show some support for the whole coast.how can you be on.a westcoast forum and not support the coast.if you only want to support one artist then go on that artists forum and stop hating
what are hell are you talking about if i dont support the new artists then why would i even name the peopel i did i like western union i like the new west rappers dont try an make me a bad guy n shit all im saying is new rappers aint fucking hustlin
JAY ROCK that nigga is HUSTLING he doin his own shit nobody brought him him out he did that shit on his own an he FAMOUS he got shit with li lwayne i mean thats how you do it im just tired of people bein bitches to all the OG's because whenever they bring out a rapper all they would say is that person is only famous because so an so brought them out fuck that shit
jay rock is a prime example of that
glasses malone came out by himself an hustled an got a good deal with mack 10 niggas gotta stop waiting for shit to come and HUSTLE!!!!!!
simple and plain
now im done arguing im gonn go play midnight club LA on ps3 8)
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Jay rock and glases Malone both got put on by game
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Jay rock and glases Malone both got put on by game
no no no no
he did a track with them theres a difference game hasnt even said nothing bout jay rock nor glasses malone they came out did they shit an got put on by themselves
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Nobody is hating dog all these threads are is a voice were saying is drop something anything major in the stores so we could go to the stores and and say look crook is on the shelves or did you see the bishop video on 106 and park maybe that day is dead and thats why these cats are just internet moguls but im old school if i really like a cd i will go to the store and buy it but if these cats dont start getting momentum cats in mississippi dont give a fuck about crook or people in florida dont care about bishop i mean its just me speak problaby they give a fuck about them everywhere. But you know why the west use to make moves because nate use to apear or dre use to produce or snoop really had shit crakin and peoplle knew he keep it g but now nothing really happens anymore.
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yeah but they also did ride off of games name as a tag.
they mos def did hustle on they own but games name did help them!
Jay rock and glases Malone both got put on by game
no no no no
he did a track with them theres a difference game hasnt even said nothing bout jay rock nor glasses malone they came out did they shit an got put on by themselves
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That's what I'm saying is game did tracks with these guys so people looked for them.game was the big new thing so anyone who worked with him got on strictly for that.it doesn't take snoop or cube to put them on their label.all it takes is a co sign and working with them.
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not even a co-sign
doin the work yourself, you will get major exposure!!
That's what I'm saying is game did tracks with these guys so people looked for them.game was the big new thing so anyone who worked with him got on strictly for that.it doesn't take snoop or cube to put them on their label.all it takes is a co sign and working with them.
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How many artists have done that in the history of rap?snoop had backing.even dre and cube had backing.the game.jay rock and glasses.50 cent.eminem.lil Wayne.all of them had the benefit of being helped out
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yeah its different but all im sayin it can happen
crooked can do this on his own, but hes up to something else! hes at the park playin wit the ducks and shit!
crooked is a gangsta rapper, he isnt snoop, he will have to sell out like snoop (more recently) to get anywhere!
but that dont mean he cant release album on a indie the same way (tech n9ne has done)
aite tech had quincy help him, but crooked can get at some of these cats!
fuck snoop, why waste time wit a muthafucka who hates and dont want his own to shine?
thats one of the best moves crooked has made, in not askin snoop for a deal!
How many artists have done that in the history of rap?snoop had backing.even dre and cube had backing.the game.jay rock and glasses.50 cent.eminem.lil Wayne.all of them had the benefit of being helped out
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Everybody wants Dre to put them on or Snoop or one of the big names that actually made a name for themselfs and if they dont get that help they want to diss and talk crazy. I mean damn why not hustle and make a name for yourself and get your name out there instead of trying to piggieback off Dre or Snoop. I mean if they do put you on cool but still you gotta do the work too because they wont do it for you. thats probly why Bishop Lamont doesnt have a cd out because hes so busy waiting on dre to work with him. why not do like Eminem did he did a few tracks with Dre but mostly did the shit himself thats why hes so successful. I mean look at it. Eazy E put on Dre and then Dre broke off and did his thing and then he put snoop on and snoop did his thing but after that he didnt need dre he found other people to work with and didnt wait for dre to come around to work on his cd. same with Mack 10 the first cd he did with Ice Cube and then after he branched off and did his own shit. and thats what Bishop needs to do if he really wants to be successful is not wait on dre because waiting on Dre his shit will never drop point blank. same with Crook he needs to just get off his ass and press some cds up and put that shit in the store. if you say your the best in the fucking west. prove that shit. fuck a major deal. do it yourself
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Dre needs to push suge knight to push his lazy ass into releasing albums.I mean they all owe their careers to suge anyways if you think about it.
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They dont owe anything to Suge to be honest. Suge is the reason death row went under instead of him being lowkey and just handling business he had to be in the limelight and fucked everything up.
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Without suge knight death row would never have existed.dr dre would be stuck in his contract at ruthless.nobody would know snoop or dogg pound or countless others.
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i don't hate snoop, i actually like him but his quantity over quality method leaves me disappointed a lot of the time. Snoop appears on so many guest appereances and releases so many projects that:
a) his lyrics are weak a lot of the time
b) the significance of a snoop guest appearance becomes minimal and thus when he appears on a west coast album it doesn't garner much attention.
I strongly disagree with those that say Snoop doesn't do enough for the west coast. Like someone said wasn't it him who helped RBX, Nate and DPG gain contracts on Death Row. Furthermore Snoop regularly uses West coast producers ranging from Rick Rock to Soopafly which is more than can be said for The Game...
Lets have a look at featured guests on TBCT:
Nate Dogg*
B Real*
R Kelly
E-40*
MC Eiht*
Goldie Loc*
Tha Dogg Pound*
Damain Marley
The Game*
Akon
Ice Cube*
Western Union*
Latoiya Williams*
Nine Inch Dix*
Jamie Foxx
Dr Dre*
D'Angelo
So thats 16 artists/groups of which 12 are from the west coast smh. Even his single Life of da Party had west coast rappers on it. Plus Snoop regularly puts out projects supporting the west coast. I know theres some Crooked I stans on here that talk about Snoop stopping others from blowing up but thats bullshit.
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I gotta tell you alot of westcoast fire coming 09 looking like the westcoasts year