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Title: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: dizell21 on January 06, 2009, 08:47:02 PM
I had this conversation with a prominent rapper on the West Coast a couple days ago. How come no one responded to the line Puffy said on "Swagger like Puff".

 "What other nigga you know went to War with a Coast and got a Star for it?"

And for those who don't think that's a diss you must of thought that line from the Watcher 2 Jay-z said wasn't a diss either

"We give Dre his props, but that's where it stops." 

And many West Coast rappers I know, talk about Jay-z bitch smacked the West Coast with that line, but no one responded.
I'm definitely not talking about an East coast West Coast war, but it's true the biggest east Coast Rappers, with an exception of a few like "Nas & WU - TANG", who lived for that East/West war don't like for respect the West Coast, especially the wets coast culture and rappers. Now like I said the East PROMINENT RAPPERS, THAT CAME UP DURING THE EAST/WEST WAR. SO don't point out how Dipset and others want to be like LA and gang bang. They didn't come up during that time.

And notice that Biggie movie coming out, they have Pac looking crazy and probably, gonna make look like an East Coast Bias.

Just a question since someone brought up the DMX comments, it's just something I notice and have noticed. I think it;s funny Puffy, still take shots at the West, you know most the East Coast OLD HEADS, and Label Execs still blame the West for fucking up the rap game, because of how Biggie got killed out here. Trust me it may not look like that publicly, but I know fro a fact some Label heads said str8 up they won't let any movements that look like "Deathrow" in the Industry again. Just wondered some of you guys thought on that is, or if you caught Puff's slick talking.
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 06, 2009, 08:48:50 PM
who cares what you and 40 glocc think



Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 06, 2009, 08:53:30 PM
yeah I mean its crazy but thats what im sayin the muffuccaz that gotta voice and a name dont say shit
but crooked says something and only 2009 fans listen to him!
FUCK THA INDUSTRY AND THAT PUFFY THA VAMPIRE!
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: D Breezy on January 06, 2009, 08:57:01 PM
jayz had snoop on a couple tracks, quik produced a track where he said he was only working with the best producers in the game, did that track with dpg and kickd it with dogg pound, worked a lot with dre, and b4 the beef started had that track with game. i think that line was just a line, nuthin more...
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 06, 2009, 09:04:32 PM
yeah but thats to a certain degree typa situation
its jus a line but when you have legends like
dre
2pac (rip)
snoop
kurupt
nate dogg
ice cube
wc
and others
they might take it more serious, but not say shit?
they also might take it light also and say its jus a line

but overall a line like that that the world will hear isnt jus a line!
your pretty much tryna to say something, but at the end of the day you think your a big shot and the big dogs wont respond cuz youve been in the game forever!

its jus like the dark man x comments!




jayz had snoop on a couple tracks, quik produced a track where he said he was only working with the best producers in the game, did that track with dpg and kickd it with dogg pound, worked a lot with dre, and b4 the beef started had that track with game. i think that line was just a line, nuthin more...
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 06, 2009, 09:20:04 PM
hope shyne throws him under the bus
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 06, 2009, 09:39:14 PM
It just bothers me cuz I feel like, why are the top niggas in the game kicking us while we're down? No new West Coast artist can even get a release date. We have Game and Snoop...thats it. Why throw shots at us?
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 06, 2009, 09:46:25 PM
PUFFY THA VAMPIRE!

LMAO +1
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 06, 2009, 09:47:12 PM
I feel what you sayin!
not suprised game didnt bark at crack man x, he fuckin put him on his album, thats his homie, but still he should have went at him



It just bothers me cuz I feel like, why are the top niggas in the game kicking us while we're down? No new West Coast artist can even get a release date. We have Game and Snoop...thats it. Why throw shots at us?
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: west koasting on January 06, 2009, 10:10:29 PM
Lmao shyne should throw buffy I mean puffy under a bus,when is shyne getting out preety soon I think.
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 06, 2009, 10:18:17 PM
yeah thats what im sayin all the reasons
1.for bein a snitch
2.for bein a fake fuck
3.for bein buffy
4.for bein puffy
5.for bein
6.for killin pac
7.for killin hip hop
8.for signin danity kane
9.for givin a chance to day 26
10.for bringin out dumb shit like yung joc, b5,
11.for ego trippin
12.for bein a bitch and fuckin shyne up like that (x2)


Lmao shyne should throw buffy I mean puffy under a bus,when is shyne getting out preety soon I think.
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: dizell21 on January 06, 2009, 10:52:46 PM
yeah but thats to a certain degree typa situation
its jus a line but when you have legends like
dre
2pac (rip)
snoop
kurupt
nate dogg
ice cube
wc
and others
they might take it more serious, but not say shit?
they also might take it light also and say its jus a line

but overall a line like that that the world will hear isnt jus a line!
your pretty much tryna to say something, but at the end of the day you think your a big shot and the big dogs wont respond cuz youve been in the game forever!

its jus like the dark man x comments!





jayz had snoop on a couple tracks, quik produced a track where he said he was only working with the best producers in the game, did that track with dpg and kickd it with dogg pound, worked a lot with dre, and b4 the beef started had that track with game. i think that line was just a line, nuthin more...

Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: dizell21 on January 06, 2009, 10:59:05 PM
That's what I'm saying why would you throw such a line out there like that, when you know the West is full of Legends. That's the problem about the West we too busy attacking one another to have any SELF PRIDE. DID You see every NY NIGGA head fro Soulja boy's neck when he said that shit about Nas killing Hip hop? Of course we know Soulja Boy just stupid for that. All I'm saying if we gonna attack each other cool, but shit shouldn't we come at a NIGGA WHO ATTACKS THE WHOLE COAST? And seriously think about it Jay-z is the "KING" of subliminals, he knew that wasn't a line. jay way too smart for that, he just letting niggas know what his feelings on the West it. I mean look at the line in the Aaliyah remix to missing you "Big, NY gang banging now" basically saying Big would roll over in his grave if he saw NY doing that shit. Because the "OLD HEADS" from Jay and BIG'S period, "With the exception of the Nas and WU TANG, Etc", so you gotta see they just thought and looked at the West as idiots. And yes he did songs with Snoop, etc, but that was at a time when everyone had to make it look like peace, so The Corporate Sponsors, and Execs would let money back into Hip Hop. Remember most sponsors/ RICH PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PESPI having someone from COCA COLA KILLED OVER COMPETITION, or Steve Jobbs having someone form Bill Gates camp killed. Sponsors and etcs., were about to pull out of hip hop if niggas didn't straighten up, that's  why Snoop and Jay-z and etc. all played nice. If not the rap game would have been like it is now, "NO MONEY". And most but not least, NIGGAS FROM THE EAST have to come here still, if you want to do a movie, shoot a video, or just enjoy Hollywood you gotta come to the West. Niggas like Jay-z knew that.

 Did you think about how Roc A- FELLA, never had a West coast artist. And yes I know the Rumours of DPG signing to the Roc, guess what? It never happened. And don't name some whack WEST coast dude, that the Roc signed that was a singer or someone that never came out.  Remember the HIP HOP SUMMIT when Dame Dash came to LA, and GRAPE STREET CRIPS, was about to get in his ass over not signing no niggas from the West, luckily Crooked I was there and calmed that down, and saved Dame life. Basically what I'm saying is Puffy definitely never makes that statement "Went to war with a Coast and got a star from it" if there was a Suge Knight or Deathrow type label around. I feel as that line from puffy, especially coming from Puff , even more disrespectful that Jay-z's. Though don't get me wrong West Coast artists have admitted to me and others privately, that Jay-z line he bitch slapped the whole Coast with. And I know someone gonna ask why didn't people you talked to respond, to be honest they all pretty much said it's hard for one person to ride on someone that powerful in the game, especially when no one in your region even the "OG Legeds" would back you up because they West and got power now. And these are niggas with Albums in stores and known names who admitted this, and I don't blame them the only one who I could see backing a nigga for responding to 'Puffy" who has a "BIG NAME" would probably be Ice cube.

Trust me the East Coast is heavily powerful in the music Industry, major Radio, TV Promo, and Media comes from NY. Remember they wasn't playing Pac and Deathrow rarely at the height of the beef. That's how Puffy also was able to skew the media and make it seem like Bad Boy, didn't wnat any beef with DEATHROW and they was just trying to make records. Even though behind the scenes Bad Boy put bounties on Deathrow Chains, and other shady shit. Remember Bad Boy's Motto "Bad Boy's Move in silence". They lived up to that. Trust, if a nigga Like Pac or Suge was still around who repped the West to death, Puff would've never have spit that line 10 years later. he did it because he knew no one would say shit about it. Like I said I ain't talking kill a nigga, but you point out how Crooked was on DMX's ass for that shit he said. A gang of niggas should've been on Jay-z and Puffy's ass for the line they each said. Which was way more disrespectful. Honestly I expected at least Ice Cube or someone of that nature to call out puff for that slick talk. They definitely kicking us while we down. and still keeping the West Culture out the game. Snoop did say something on point, they want to shoot the videos, here, steal the lifestyle "gang banging" but they don't want that atmosphere our culture form the West Coast in the Game ever again. Deathrow had a lot of negatives, but they don't want to put the West on, they made the West so big, that just being a rapper from the West coast made labels want to give you a deal. The only West Coast Label is Interscope.  Jimmy Iovine the only exec from the "Five Families" in the music biz willing to get behind a West Coast nigga from that kind of enviroment, because Interscope was built on that West Coast G shit, and Iovine don't give a fuck what anyone say. Remember 50 was blackballed out the game when he came in. Iovine didn't give a fuck he let Em & Dre sign 50. He wasn't gonna be told what to do. Remember before you say Dre and Em signed 50, not Iovine. Yes, but "The Boss" has to give a release date, I.E. Iovine. Nothing happens as you can see without his okay. So for anyone who says leave that shit in the past I can agree, but how can you when two of the most powerful men in hip hop, obviously don't let it go and feel bitter still. Say what you want Puffy meant line, if not why spit it, when that was 10 years ago? Because he can and he still semi likes to shit on the Coast he feels he went to war with, and lost "THE BATTLE". In Puff's eyes he won the "WAR", because look at Bad Boy and the EAST the past 10 years (maybe Bad Boy don't do rap, but they making millions) and his enemy Deathrow? They gone, Suge out the game. It won't shock me, if he made the Ultimate chess move and bought Deathrow from the Auction.  To close the casket in his eyes on the West most prized and powerful label ever.
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Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: smp4life on January 07, 2009, 12:12:55 AM
Crooked I went hard on DMX in one of his hip-hop weeklys.
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: Psychotik on January 07, 2009, 12:50:52 AM
All I know is someone needs to get 'em in the most blunt way possible...TMZ style, confront them and diss em up front then and there.
I knew about the Jayz line but not this puffy line. Anyways, those lines were both cheap shots and uncalled for. Its like saying something and biting their tongue at the same time.
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: Elano on January 07, 2009, 12:58:37 AM
ice cube will never reply.
WC could spit some fire against puffy or jay z.......
Daz and Kurupt ?  :nawty: unfortunately
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: wardy on January 07, 2009, 07:45:51 AM
to be fair to puffy he has worked with Westcoast artists, the beef era he worked with too $hort a lot and since he has worked with Kokane, Snoop Dogg, Dogg Pound, Keyshia Cole, The Game (wrote for diddy), Ice Cube & Xzibit were in one of his videos with snoop think it was bad boy for life

i think the line was blown out of proportion and whoever mentioned that jigga line on watcher 2 that is not a diss to the west, in fact i remember jay sayin in one of his songs that the east had been soft since snoop came through and crushed the buildings in the new york new york video.
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: BIGWORM on January 07, 2009, 08:30:20 AM
I feel what you sayin!
not suprised game didnt bark at crack man x, he fuckin put him on his album, thats his homie, but still he should have went at him

^ Thats because DMX said " I ain't feeling the west coasts artists because there too laid back, however I'm feeling The Game ".
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: dizell21 on January 07, 2009, 09:14:25 AM
Dog, if you don't think that's a diss to the West on the Watcher, I got a beach in Venice I can sell you. Man I'm telling you every rapper from here, some publicly and some privately will definitely tell you that Jay-z line from the "The Watcher 2" is defnitely a diss and slight to the West Coast. R you kidding me? We give Dre his props, but that's where it stops? Dog listen to that verse. That 100 percent was a diss. I'm telling you, it ain't like he saying I'm gonna kill ya'll but he is saying he think the West  ain't on the East level. I think you misunderstand, you can work with anyone to get money, but you at the same time don't have to respect them. Don't confuse the 2. I wish any rappers on here would admit that line by Jay, was a diss. Look at Jay's history everyone knows that. And yes he mentioned it been weak since Snoop crushed the building, but don't mean he think the East is still not superior, he just talking about his thoughts on the state of East rap. And Puff line was a diss, think about that one.
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: afgmafia on January 07, 2009, 09:50:25 AM
puffy knows that if anyone responds it might bring back the fued so he did it because aint nobody want that
and plus he did win if someone goin say something wat they goin say? suge did lose deathrow dre left snoop left pac died r.i.p.
puff said it cuz he can der aint no consequences

and jay took the opportunity to rep himself to the fullest on a track wit dre. everyone knows jay consider himself best of all time and shit and if he get on a track wit one of the best of all time if not the best of all time then hell yea he goin rep himself he said "we give dre his props but thats where it stops its the roc" i dont consider it a diss to west coast i consider it as him takin advantage he has a song wit dre and sayin hes better than dre.
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: JOEYNY on January 07, 2009, 09:55:09 AM
I DONT THINK NO NIGGAZ RESPONDIN TO PUFFY I MEAN CAN YOU REALLY CALL THAT DUDE A REAL RAPPER
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: west koasting on January 07, 2009, 10:16:49 AM
Yea gay-z was def dissing the west coast he just tries to do it on a sneak lil bitch way, he's dissing them but at the same time he's not
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: freewayricky on January 07, 2009, 10:37:47 AM
that isnt th eline from Puffy to worry about...

Recently on 'Swagga Like Puff" he says "Who else goes to War With A WHole Coast And Gets A Star For It"

referring to his star on Hollywood Blvd...

But, again none of our so-called stars can even compete - they gotta let it ride...  Damn shame...
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: Nasty Nem on January 07, 2009, 10:44:33 AM
puffy is a boss

he told you he wont stop

while suge gettin knocked out
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: StreetPoet on January 07, 2009, 11:17:29 AM
I hope Shyne catches Puffys ass
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 07, 2009, 05:23:25 PM
thats what im sayin he shouldnt have!




I feel what you sayin!
not suprised game didnt bark at crack man x, he fuckin put him on his album, thats his homie, but still he should have went at him

^ Thats because DMX said " I ain't feeling the west coasts artists because there too laid back, however I'm feeling The Game ".
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 07, 2009, 05:26:39 PM
and if jay was takin shots at this coast, why would dre not say nuth, and continue to work wit him?
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on January 07, 2009, 05:26:44 PM
puffy is a boss

he told you he wont stop

while suge gettin knocked out

Word.  
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 07, 2009, 08:56:45 PM
It just bothers me cuz I feel like, why are the top niggas in the game kicking us while we're down? No new West Coast artist can even get a release date. We have Game and Snoop...thats it. Why throw shots at us?

its just a line  and who cares about puff anyway?
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: Muhfukka on January 07, 2009, 09:23:22 PM
who gives a fuck what puff daddy says that guy would talk all day if you let him
Title: Re: Anyone Catch This Slick Line By Puffy?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 07, 2009, 09:41:08 PM
haha yeah his second home is 106 and park




who gives a fuck what puff daddy says that guy would talk all day if you let him