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Title: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on January 30, 2009, 07:37:52 PM
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Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Posted on 30 January 2009 by Eddie G

The Wall Street Journal sat down for an interview with the new owner of Death Row Records, who happens to be a soccer mom from Toronto.  Yes, the plot thickens…

Source: The Wall Street Journal

“On Jan. 16, the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Los Angeles signed off on the $18 million sale of Death Row Records’ assets to Toronto-based entertainment development firm WIDEawake Entertainment Group Inc. WIDEawake Chief Executive Lara Lavi, who in addition to striking hip hop gold bears the honor of being deemed “the coolest aunt ever” by her nieces and nephews, chatted with Bankruptcy Beat on Jan. 21 about the acquisition.

For all Death Row Records’ success, its history has been marred by lawsuits and violence. Given such a tumultuous past, what appeal did the assets hold?

You can’t grow up in the United States and not be aware of what happened. The tragedy of [slain rapper] Tupac’s death … many other people’s deaths, people getting hurt, people getting sued – this is not America at its best. However, under all that is an art form that has clearly been legitimized in the mainstream circles and still has a very broad reach globally.

[We need] to have a healing process with the Death Row artists and that is probably one of my first priorities … to systematically talk to the artists that have quality catalogs in the Death Row asset purchase and get things on a better level. … They deserve better than this. Their product has been sitting in a bankruptcy proceeding for the past three years. Much of it hasn’t seen the light of day. All of the emphasis has been on the prior owner [Marion “Suge” Knight] and management problems. It’s very easy to forget that the Death Row collection of music and artists is really the Motown of West Coast rap. This is major oral history for many, many Americans.

The state of today’s credit markets means a lot of deals aren’t getting done. How were you able to line up financing?

There is a real misconception that the money has dried up. What has happened is there’s a market adjustment that’s occurred that’s now required people to be fiscally responsible, to look even more carefully at who will manage this investment.

What plans does WIDEawake have for the Death Row assets?

Our goal is to make sure that fans’ first taste of the new Death Row is stuff that’s fresh. There’s so much video and artwork and music that’s never been seen by fans. … We’re going to put a Death Row online destination store site together.

What is your favorite song or album in the Death Row catalog?

There is an irony to a singer/songwriter/entertainment lawyer/soccer mom now being the chief of this thing, but I will say the classics: [the legendary Dr. Dre album] “The Chronic,” anything that Snoop Doggy Dogg was doing in the early days, the Tupac, all the Petey Pablo stuff, the Kurupt stuff. I’ve been married for many, many years to an African-American man [producer Maurice Jones Jr.]. … I’ve had the blessing of being exposed to music that perhaps my upbringing would not have suggested would be possible.

Are you concerned that Suge Knight will influence or interfere with your efforts to talk to artists and get them on board?

Mr. Knight is a business man. And I think he comes from a community with these artists, and they know each other and they’re going to continue to know each other. It’s not about what he influences but how we go forward as a team to create a new day for Death Row. Hip hop artists and rap artists and folks that have grown up from Compton to Queens – they’re not about talk; they’re about action. They’re going to wait and see what we do, and we’re going to earn their trust.

Suge doesn’t own this thing anymore. As long as we keep pulling it back to that, it makes it very hard to go forward, and it’s painful for the artists. I really want these artists to feel good.”
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: stillinrehab on January 30, 2009, 07:44:03 PM
Its cool to hear her sayin she'll release all that stuff but its gunna take action over words to get people over again.... I just wonder if shes planning on making it a full label again or just selling the memorabilia and milking it for some of her money back....
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on January 30, 2009, 08:37:47 PM
I hate to sound like a stan, but honestly, if her plans don't involve unreleased Crooked I music I don't even care. We've got the Dre music, the Snoop, the DPG, the Pac, etc... Let's hear some Crook now.
Title: Re: Death Rows New Owner Speaks
Post by: RhyanG on January 30, 2009, 09:02:01 PM
Who wants to bet that Kilo2 is trying to get a job with this label? Anything deathrow related that kids there like a groupie ass stan...
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: acgrundy on January 30, 2009, 09:02:52 PM
hopefully she leaves the music as is, and doesn't add a "modern" touch
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on January 30, 2009, 09:22:38 PM
hopefully she leaves the music as is, and doesn't add a "modern" touch

I'm pretty sure her investment loses it's value once she does that.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: KrazySumwhat on January 30, 2009, 10:45:59 PM
 i guess its good news if it means all the unreleased material will actually finally get released. iam not sure if i'd bother with any new deathrow artist, if that even would happen, but yeah, would be cool to get all that old unheard stuff.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: 2euce 7even on January 31, 2009, 03:38:29 AM
i would love to hear any unreleased song by paradise,b-rezell,murder IV hire,bloody mary,redrum,etc.  8)
i hope the release all these unheard jewels and leave it OG and don´t remix it.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: hrsmn_london on January 31, 2009, 04:19:08 AM
Well, now we can finally here all of this music.

Good news, right!?

As long as they don't fuck around with the music.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Mygla on January 31, 2009, 05:46:50 AM
i would love to hear any unreleased song by paradise,b-rezell,murder IV hire,bloody mary,redrum,etc.  8)
i hope the release all these unheard jewels and leave it OG and don´t remix it.

lol, that's whose unreleased songs you'd wanna hear?
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: es-jay on January 31, 2009, 06:56:20 AM
i would love to hear any unreleased song by paradise,b-rezell,murder IV hire,bloody mary,redrum,etc.  8)
i hope the release all these unheard jewels and leave it OG and don´t remix it.

lol, that's whose unreleased songs you'd wanna hear?

do they actually have released music? lol.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: C-BLUE on January 31, 2009, 09:19:47 AM
tomica wright part 2
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Okka on January 31, 2009, 09:24:57 AM
If they release some new unreleased music, i just hope they don't fuckin remix them.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: TDOT on January 31, 2009, 09:39:19 AM
Like everybody, I would be down for some unreleased shit as long as they don't fuck around with it at all. But I don't really care for the lesser known guys, I wanna hear some of that Crooked, Snoop, Dre & Pac shit that's been locked up for so long. Also, i'm sure nobody would care for any new artists that they think they can sign. Deathrow is long gone, they shouldn't try and bring that shit back. The only people who still care, are the people who wanna hear the old shit.
Title: Re: Death Row
Post by: DPGC23 on January 31, 2009, 10:22:30 AM
LAUGHIN@ DO THEY HAV ANYTHIN RELEASED, ONTHOS ARTISTS

DOPE SHIT THO MAN, CAN'T WAIT

DPGC23
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on January 31, 2009, 10:28:34 AM
Like everybody, I would be down for some unreleased shit as long as they don't fuck around with it at all. But I don't really care for the lesser known guys, I wanna hear some of that Crooked, Snoop, Dre & Pac shit that's been locked up for so long. Also, i'm sure nobody would care for any new artists that they think they can sign. Deathrow is long gone, they shouldn't try and bring that shit back. The only people who still care, are the people who wanna hear the old shit.

True, there is no point in releasing an unknown act with a "Death Row" logo on it. Death Row is gone, Suge has no part of it and the original roster all moved on. It wouldn't mean anything to be on that label. I could release an album myself and put a "Death Row" logo on it and it would have the same effect, LOL.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: DJ SUGAFREE QUIK on February 01, 2009, 05:27:06 AM
Well, now we can finally here all of this music.

Good news, right!?

As long as they don't fuck around with the music.
Who is that chick in the gif sig you have?  She looks like Svetlana from Real World Key West :P
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Mygla on February 01, 2009, 05:55:53 AM
They should do everything digital... Put the whole fucking catalogue in iTunes, or make their own online store... They make that shit available for the fans, and risk loosing alot less if it doesn't sell.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on February 01, 2009, 06:54:26 AM
I like the way she included Petey Pablo in her favourie death row artists/albums.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: birdman11 on February 01, 2009, 11:00:05 AM
i haven't been more excited about the music industry in a long time, this is great news
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: tavern on February 01, 2009, 11:01:13 PM
interesting. man only if suge could have handled his business properly. he went from having everything to nothing. what a shame.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Efrain on February 02, 2009, 10:17:26 AM
Fuck that, Suge made so many enemies he couldn't even release this material if he wanted to... which he clearly didn't. It's a new day I look forward to seeing what happens. It's encouraging to hear her favorite stuff is the Dre and Snoop material. I could care less about the 2pac stuff at this point he's had his unreleased albums, it's time to air out that g-funk shit  8)
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: MediumL on February 02, 2009, 10:47:40 AM
this shit finally getting released may allow the west coast to move on cause at the moment death row still dominates the left sides scnee.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: love33 on February 02, 2009, 01:59:30 PM
This is great news! I hope she rebuilds the label.  She sounds like she wants to move in a positive direction.  Lets hope she signs Tha Realest and puts his albums out.  Pac passed him the torch at the Tyson fight now it's time for him to run with it.  She should also sign Crooked I, Mac Shawn, Top Dogg, Soopafly, Daz, Roscoe, Eastwood, Nate Dogg, Young Keno, Warren G, Ya Boy, and let Kurupt oversee the projects and come correct.

She is taking this thing in the right direction.  How anyone could possibly be angry about this is just an example how the West coast has a lot of fans that are nothing but negative people and probably never been laid in years.  She is doing the right thing for the company and she wants to put out these unreleased records.  Hopefully she gets some producers, does the paper work the right way this time, and runs with a prime label that we can be proud of.

As far as the old unreleased catalog goes, I would really like to see Kurupt's first solo album he recorded in 1993-1995 with the smash hit "I Just Don't Bang No More."  I would also like to see some of the unreleased Warren G songs.

She should also resign the Top Dogg "YGD" and market him hard.  I would also like to see Chris Brown, Ne-Yo, Kanye West, Nas, Lil Wayne, Lloyd, Jagged Edge, Nelly, Justin Timberlake, and Usher work with the label as guest artists.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Webby05 on February 02, 2009, 02:07:12 PM
I would also like to see Chris Brown, Ne-Yo, Kanye West, Nas, Lil Wayne, Lloyd, Jagged Edge, Nelly, Justin Timberlake, and Usher work with the label as guest artists.

You are joking right? lol
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Paul on February 02, 2009, 02:08:26 PM
I would also like to see Chris Brown, Ne-Yo, Kanye West, Nas, Lil Wayne, Lloyd, Jagged Edge, Nelly, Justin Timberlake, and Usher work with the label as guest artists.


wtf
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: love33 on February 02, 2009, 02:10:09 PM
I would also like to see Chris Brown, Ne-Yo, Kanye West, Nas, Lil Wayne, Lloyd, Jagged Edge, Nelly, Justin Timberlake, and Usher work with the label as guest artists.


wtf

The Game and Snoop work with these artists so why not Death Row and get a more national following but still employ a lot of artists from the West?
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: LodiDodi on February 02, 2009, 05:08:33 PM
Lets hope she signs Tha Realest and puts his albums out.  Pac passed him the torch at the Tyson fight now it's time for him to run with it. 

Let's hope she doesn't.  And seriously, Pac passing the torch to Tha Realest??  He wouldn't even pass pack of matches to that wannabe
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: love33 on February 02, 2009, 06:49:50 PM
Lets hope she signs Tha Realest and puts his albums out.  Pac passed him the torch at the Tyson fight now it's time for him to run with it. 

Let's hope she doesn't.  And seriously, Pac passing the torch to Tha Realest??  He wouldn't even pass pack of matches to that wannabe

I dont know if you know this or not, but he reached agreement for him to be on his Makaveli Records label, a sublabel of Death Row (the logo on the Makaveli The Don album).  Also, Pac's closest roaddogs have recorded with Tha Realest like Richie Rich, Scarface, etc.  They definitely gave him the stamp of approval on that "Gotta Love Gangsta's" track.  Damn, some of you all need to crawl up under the rock.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 02, 2009, 07:13:52 PM
Lets hope she signs Tha Realest and puts his albums out.  Pac passed him the torch at the Tyson fight now it's time for him to run with it. 

Let's hope she doesn't.  And seriously, Pac passing the torch to Tha Realest??  He wouldn't even pass pack of matches to that wannabe

I dont know if you know this or not, but he reached agreement for him to be on his Makaveli Records label, a sublabel of Death Row (the logo on the Makaveli The Don album).  Also, Pac's closest roaddogs have recorded with Tha Realest like Richie Rich, Scarface, etc.  They definitely gave him the stamp of approval on that "Gotta Love Gangsta's" track.  Damn, some of you all need to crawl up under the rock.

Your wording it like Pac passed him the torch to be the "new" Pac, which he never did anything like that.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 02, 2009, 07:17:23 PM
This is great news! I hope she rebuilds the label.  She sounds like she wants to move in a positive direction.  Lets hope she signs Tha Realest and puts his albums out.  Pac passed him the torch at the Tyson fight now it's time for him to run with it.  She should also sign Crooked I, Mac Shawn, Top Dogg, Soopafly, Daz, Roscoe, Eastwood, Nate Dogg, Young Keno, Warren G, Ya Boy, and let Kurupt oversee the projects and come correct.

What's the point man? Who cares about signing to "Death Row", it's NOT Death Row Records anymore. Yeah same name, but everything about the label is different now. What does she offer artists that have spent years trying to escape that name? To me, Death Row is just a library of music now, it's not a real label. People associated Death Row with being "gangster" or whatever, now it's owned by a Canadian soccer mom, that's cool and all, but seriously. Signing to the label JUST for the logo? Na...
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: love33 on February 02, 2009, 07:22:53 PM
This is great news! I hope she rebuilds the label.  She sounds like she wants to move in a positive direction.  Lets hope she signs Tha Realest and puts his albums out.  Pac passed him the torch at the Tyson fight now it's time for him to run with it.  She should also sign Crooked I, Mac Shawn, Top Dogg, Soopafly, Daz, Roscoe, Eastwood, Nate Dogg, Young Keno, Warren G, Ya Boy, and let Kurupt oversee the projects and come correct.

What's the point man? Who cares about signing to "Death Row", it's NOT Death Row Records anymore. Yeah same name, but everything about the label is different now. What does she offer artists that have spent years trying to escape that name? To me, Death Row is just a library of music now, it's not a real label. People associated Death Row with being "gangster" or whatever, now it's owned by a Canadian soccer mom, that's cool and all, but seriously. Signing to the label JUST for the logo? Na...

When it was ran "gangster" post 1998 we got a total of zero new solo albums from active artist, one dogg pound album that was solid, 3 old pac albums with a bunch of words cut and edited, a 2pac live album that featured a 14 second track, snoop dead man walkin and greatest hits, and a total of three compilations that featured the new artists...oh yeah, throw in that kurupt album that they didn't want released and it flopped.

That style didn't exactly work.  I'm all for the music being released in high quality digital format so we can actually hear the songs instead of just typing and dreaming about them on internet forums the past decade.  I'm all for someone who wants to help rap and advance the west coast.  She probably is a soccer mom, but what is Jimmy Iovine, a thug? I would rather actually hear the songs from the artists than beg people for snippets on the internet and low quality versions that surface out of someone's attic.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 02, 2009, 07:31:32 PM
This is great news! I hope she rebuilds the label.  She sounds like she wants to move in a positive direction.  Lets hope she signs Tha Realest and puts his albums out.  Pac passed him the torch at the Tyson fight now it's time for him to run with it.  She should also sign Crooked I, Mac Shawn, Top Dogg, Soopafly, Daz, Roscoe, Eastwood, Nate Dogg, Young Keno, Warren G, Ya Boy, and let Kurupt oversee the projects and come correct.

What's the point man? Who cares about signing to "Death Row", it's NOT Death Row Records anymore. Yeah same name, but everything about the label is different now. What does she offer artists that have spent years trying to escape that name? To me, Death Row is just a library of music now, it's not a real label. People associated Death Row with being "gangster" or whatever, now it's owned by a Canadian soccer mom, that's cool and all, but seriously. Signing to the label JUST for the logo? Na...

When it was ran "gangster" post 1998 we got a total of zero new solo albums from active artist, one dogg pound album that was solid, 3 old pac albums with a bunch of words cut and edited, a 2pac live album that featured a 14 second track, snoop dead man walkin and greatest hits, and a total of three compilations that featured the new artists...oh yeah, throw in that kurupt album that they didn't want released and it flopped.

That style didn't exactly work.  I'm all for the music being released in high quality digital format so we can actually hear the songs instead of just typing and dreaming about them on internet forums the past decade.  I'm all for someone who wants to help rap and advance the west coast.  She probably is a soccer mom, but what is Jimmy Iovine, a thug? I would rather actually hear the songs from the artists than beg people for snippets on the internet and low quality versions that surface out of someone's attic.

I'm saying though what's the point of signing to the label? She should just release the old music... A lot of the artists you mentioned have had quite successful careers without Death Row and certainly don't need it at this point.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 02, 2009, 09:53:33 PM
Should just release all that unreleased shit in volumes and in digital format only. Have some exclusive iTunes deal or something. No point in attempting to get that shit in retail stores since only the hardcore fans would pay attention to it and would download it anyways. It would basically advertise itself. That's what I would do, doubt it would cost much either.

Yup, but if I were her, I'd set up some kind of digital download site run by her company as well as iTunes. I'm with you though digital is the best way to go with this, but she should most certainly sell hard copies of albums.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on February 02, 2009, 11:56:51 PM
lol
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Not Likely on February 03, 2009, 01:11:02 AM
Live Row > Death Row
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: hrsmn_london on February 03, 2009, 08:40:48 AM
love33

Kurupt's album. Can it really be called a flop? Was there any proper promotion for this record?

I think Kurupt has already left the label when it'd been released.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: The_Offence on February 03, 2009, 09:03:49 AM
death row is now canada bound  ;D at a soccer mom
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Ţŕiņçë on February 03, 2009, 09:31:20 AM
I hate to sound like a stan, but honestly, if her plans don't involve unreleased Crooked I music I don't even care. We've got the Dre music, the Snoop, the DPG, the Pac, etc... Let's hear some Crook now.


Hahahahahah thats whatsup  ;D
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 03, 2009, 10:20:29 AM
Should just release all that unreleased shit in volumes and in digital format only. Have some exclusive iTunes deal or something. No point in attempting to get that shit in retail stores since only the hardcore fans would pay attention to it and would download it anyways. It would basically advertise itself. That's what I would do, doubt it would cost much either.

Yup, but if I were her, I'd set up some kind of digital download site run by her company as well as iTunes. I'm with you though digital is the best way to go with this, but she should most certainly sell hard copies of albums.

That would be a waste of money and resources in my opinion, no point in competing with iTunes since you would only have those specific tracks. It helps that iTunes now offers DRM free music.

I feel you... I'd still want the option for hard copies though if they are selling unreleased albums though. You can burn stuff to blank CDs, but that's not always the same.

BTW: Amazon been had DRM free music... that's why I don't fuck with iTunes.  8)
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: MediumL on February 03, 2009, 10:24:25 AM
If they put it on Itunes they best make sure its available for UK users  ::)
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: love33 on February 03, 2009, 01:12:30 PM
love33

Kurupt's album. Can it really be called a flop? Was there any proper promotion for this record?

I think Kurupt has already left the label when it'd been released.

Kurupt was still with the label as VP but the label had its sights set on pushing Petey Pablo as their next big release.  Koch had a pile of Kurupt tracks they sent them and told them they wanted Kurupt's album released next and Tha Row pulled back and said they weren't going to release it.  Koch released the album anyway because they were tired of waiting with horrible promotion and it flopped harder than any solo album the label ever released.  Important tracks were left off like Danny Boy's lead feature track that was supposed to be huge called "One Thangs Fo Sure" (he had 2 versions of the song), "No Vaseline Pt. 2," etc.  The Lil Jon, R Kelly, and Ice Cube guest appearances were left off and the project got completely screwed up.

This is why I said in my earlier post what was so great post 1998 when the company was run like this.  The only album that ever made any impact on the charts was Chronic 2000 (sold 700k which is platinum because it's a double album), and Dogg Pound "2002" debuted at #36 with that "Change The Game Remix" single with Jay-Z, Beanie, and Memphis.  Daz left right before they dropped "2002" and he didn't support it but Kurupt supported it 100%, but you can't have a tour or solid promotion when 1 of the 2 artists don't support it.  Those Pac albums were successful because Interscope pushed it hard and Pac's name was still heavy.  They messed that project up by editing out Wendy Williams disses and replacing Kurupt with Trick Daddy.  There was a huge arguement between Afeni and Suge because Suge wanted to put Tha Realest on there and Crooked I, and Afeni wanted minimal contributions from the newer artists so only a few made it on there like SKG and Nina (Lefteye).  Also, "Death Row" was actually beeped out on many tracks as requested by Afeni.  So the album had some tracks shouting out the label, then you had different rappers on there like Trick Daddy, and then there were other tracks on the same album with "Death Row" bleeped out.  So many things were messed up at that label.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 03, 2009, 01:29:18 PM
love33

Kurupt's album. Can it really be called a flop? Was there any proper promotion for this record?

I think Kurupt has already left the label when it'd been released.

Kurupt was still with the label as VP but the label had its sights set on pushing Petey Pablo as their next big release.  Koch had a pile of Kurupt tracks they sent them and told them they wanted Kurupt's album released next and Tha Row pulled back and said they weren't going to release it.  Koch released the album anyway because they were tired of waiting with horrible promotion and it flopped harder than any solo album the label ever released.  Important tracks were left off like Danny Boy's lead feature track that was supposed to be huge called "One Thangs Fo Sure" (he had 2 versions of the song), "No Vaseline Pt. 2," etc.  The Lil Jon, R Kelly, and Ice Cube guest appearances were left off and the project got completely screwed up.

This is why I said in my earlier post what was so great post 1998 when the company was run like this.  The only album that ever made any impact on the charts was Chronic 2000 (sold 700k which is platinum because it's a double album), and Dogg Pound "2002" debuted at #36 with that "Change The Game Remix" single with Jay-Z, Beanie, and Memphis.  Daz left right before they dropped "2002" and he didn't support it but Kurupt supported it 100%, but you can't have a tour or solid promotion when 1 of the 2 artists don't support it.  Those Pac albums were successful because Interscope pushed it hard and Pac's name was still heavy.  They messed that project up by editing out Wendy Williams disses and replacing Kurupt with Trick Daddy.  There was a huge arguement between Afeni and Suge because Suge wanted to put Tha Realest on there and Crooked I, and Afeni wanted minimal contributions from the newer artists so only a few made it on there like SKG and Nina (Lefteye).  Also, "Death Row" was actually beeped out on many tracks as requested by Afeni.  So the album had some tracks shouting out the label, then you had different rappers on there like Trick Daddy, and then there were other tracks on the same album with "Death Row" bleeped out.  So many things were messed up at that label.

I'm pretty sure Kurupt's "diss songs" were pulled off the album, because Kurupt had just signed a DPG reunion deal with Koch and they negotiated the removal of the songs from AGT. Suge obviously didn't want the diss songs removed, so he boycotted the album on the Death Row website.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on February 03, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
^^^Kurupt was long gone when the album was finally released and I believe the only reason Koch could release it without DR's consent was because of contractual agreements.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 03, 2009, 03:57:55 PM
^^^Kurupt was long gone when the album was finally released and I believe the only reason Koch could release it without DR's consent was because of contractual agreements.

That's what I'm saying though, Kurupt already joined back up with DPG. So, the fact that DPG was dropping new music on Koch they were able to manipulate the release and get the diss records removed, so Suge was heated.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: love33 on February 03, 2009, 04:17:31 PM
^^^Kurupt was long gone when the album was finally released and I believe the only reason Koch could release it without DR's consent was because of contractual agreements.

That's what I'm saying though, Kurupt already joined back up with DPG. So, the fact that DPG was dropping new music on Koch they were able to manipulate the release and get the diss records removed, so Suge was heated.

Go listen to "Speak On It" man, he's dissing the shit out of Daz on there.  Also, he disses Ja Rule, 50 Cent, and DMX talking about quit trying to be like Tupac.

Some of the Daz diss:

Don't think cause your cool with Snoop
That you can do anything that you wanna do
First it's war next its donation false mediation about situations
Take over conversations nigga stop acting like a bitch
Stand up just like a man get your game together
Before a nigga gotta teach you some table manners
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 03, 2009, 04:19:28 PM
^^^Kurupt was long gone when the album was finally released and I believe the only reason Koch could release it without DR's consent was because of contractual agreements.

That's what I'm saying though, Kurupt already joined back up with DPG. So, the fact that DPG was dropping new music on Koch they were able to manipulate the release and get the diss records removed, so Suge was heated.

Go listen to "Speak On It" man, he's dissing the shit out of Daz on there.  Also, he disses Ja Rule, 50 Cent, and DMX talking about quit trying to be like Tupac.

Some of the Daz diss:

Don't think cause your cool with Snoop
That you can do anything that you wanna do
First it's war next its donation false mediation about situations
Take over conversations nigga stop acting like a bitch
Stand up just like a man get your game together
Before a nigga gotta teach you some table manners

Yeah, this is true and Eastwood takes a jab at Daz on the album too... But it's clear that Kurupt was cool with Snoop and Daz again when this album dropped. Otherwise No Vaseline 2 would have been on it. That's why tracks were replaced with the songs from the Dayton Family album and the Domination album.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: Not Likely on February 03, 2009, 07:20:04 PM
^^^Kurupt was long gone when the album was finally released and I believe the only reason Koch could release it without DR's consent was because of contractual agreements.

That's what I'm saying though, Kurupt already joined back up with DPG. So, the fact that DPG was dropping new music on Koch they were able to manipulate the release and get the diss records removed, so Suge was heated.

Go listen to "Speak On It" man, he's dissing the shit out of Daz on there.  Also, he disses Ja Rule, 50 Cent, and DMX talking about quit trying to be like Tupac.

Some of the Daz diss:

Don't think cause your cool with Snoop
That you can do anything that you wanna do
First it's war next its donation false mediation about situations
Take over conversations nigga stop acting like a bitch
Stand up just like a man get your game together
Before a nigga gotta teach you some table manners

Yeah, this is true and Eastwood takes a jab at Daz on the album too... But it's clear that Kurupt was cool with Snoop and Daz again when this album dropped. Otherwise No Vaseline 2 would have been on it. That's why tracks were replaced with the songs from the Dayton Family album and the Domination album.

I never knew this. thanks for the information. :)
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 03, 2009, 08:57:24 PM
^^^Kurupt was long gone when the album was finally released and I believe the only reason Koch could release it without DR's consent was because of contractual agreements.

That's what I'm saying though, Kurupt already joined back up with DPG. So, the fact that DPG was dropping new music on Koch they were able to manipulate the release and get the diss records removed, so Suge was heated.

Go listen to "Speak On It" man, he's dissing the shit out of Daz on there.  Also, he disses Ja Rule, 50 Cent, and DMX talking about quit trying to be like Tupac.

Some of the Daz diss:

Don't think cause your cool with Snoop
That you can do anything that you wanna do
First it's war next its donation false mediation about situations
Take over conversations nigga stop acting like a bitch
Stand up just like a man get your game together
Before a nigga gotta teach you some table manners

Yeah, this is true and Eastwood takes a jab at Daz on the album too... But it's clear that Kurupt was cool with Snoop and Daz again when this album dropped. Otherwise No Vaseline 2 would have been on it. That's why tracks were replaced with the songs from the Dayton Family album and the Domination album.

I never knew this. thanks for the information. :)

I could be wrong though, wouldn't be the first time, but this is just what I always heard.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: love33 on February 03, 2009, 09:08:04 PM
I'm almost 100% sure he was still on the label when it dropped because a week after the album was dropped, all the promo was pulled off tharow's official site and then replaced with Petey Pablo promos for "Same Eyez On Me".  There ended up being at least two Petey Pablo albums recorded.  Two of the songs that he is featured on are called "I'll Beat Yo Azz" ft. Kurupt and another track called "Too Much" featuring Kurupt & Eastwood.  This proves that Kurupt was still with the label.  Suge left him go on good terms right before the company was getting nailed for bankruptcy.  He is probably one of the few artists that left Suge on good terms.
Title: Re: Death Row’s New Owner Speaks
Post by: EFFeX on February 03, 2009, 09:51:30 PM
I'm almost 100% sure he was still on the label when it dropped because a week after the album was dropped, all the promo was pulled off tharow's official site and then replaced with Petey Pablo promos for "Same Eyez On Me".  There ended up being at least two Petey Pablo albums recorded.  Two of the songs that he is featured on are called "I'll Beat Yo Azz" ft. Kurupt and another track called "Too Much" featuring Kurupt & Eastwood.  This proves that Kurupt was still with the label.  Suge left him go on good terms right before the company was getting nailed for bankruptcy.  He is probably one of the few artists that left Suge on good terms.

Don't forget though, Petey was on the label a long time before ATG dropped though. Both those albums ended up leaking later on...

BTW: A couple DPG reunion songs started leaking right before ATG finally hit stores, I remember bumping the album the first day it dropped and talking about with my boys how it was weird how he was back with his crew again, but dissing them on the album.

Also, check out this link I just found... ATG dropped later the same month. Dillinger & Gotti 2 a couple months later.

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84612.0