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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: OchoCinco on February 05, 2009, 07:17:42 PM
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I gotta say everyone says alot about pac but i think one thing that goes under the radar was he was one of the best a pickin beats to rap on. I can go threw most of Pacs songs and not too many are wack beats, he had a nack at pickin the fire.
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yeah thats real talk. i think pac had the right productions that suited his style and flow.
mostly all his joints had dope productions that complemented pac, except the new albums that they try to remix all the time.
for me thou the 'me against the world' album had dopest beats. "old school, temptations, lord knows, heavy in the game...etc"
most of the producers that worked on his stuff were: johnny j, easy mo bee (temptations), shock g - (so many tears, i get around etc), dr.dre (california love, can't c me), daz (gangsta party, skandalous, got my mind made up, etc), doug rasheed (rather be ya NIGGA), devante...etc
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
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if he was still here his last few albums wouldnt have sounded like that at all.
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
yeah i agree most of this niggas songs was wacc ass beats
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
lmao! All the shit he released had very very good production and suited his style perfect! Ur talking bout the OG's that he NEVER released! We dont know if those songs were supposed to come out like they were recorded! He used to change his songs alot! So ur point doesnt make sense!
I remember I read an interview from QD3 where he said that sometimes Pac just listened to the beat via phone for just a few seconds and picked it! Pac was a genius! RIP
Peace
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
lmao! All the shit he released had very very good production and suited his style perfect! Ur talking bout the OG's that he NEVER released! We dont know if those songs were supposed to come out like they were recorded! He used to change his songs alot! So ur point doesnt make sense!
I remember I read an interview from QD3 where he said that sometimes Pac just listened to the beat via phone for just a few seconds and picked it! Pac was a genius! RIP
Peace
all a matter of opinion
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
truth
he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
lmao! All the shit he released had very very good production and suited his style perfect! Ur talking bout the OG's that he NEVER released! We dont know if those songs were supposed to come out like they were recorded! He used to change his songs alot! So ur point doesnt make sense!
I remember I read an interview from QD3 where he said that sometimes Pac just listened to the beat via phone for just a few seconds and picked it! Pac was a genius! RIP
Peace
diccryding most rappers pic their beats after a few seconds how many abrs do you need to know if you want it or not?
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Pac just had a good ear for a beat. Doesn't mean he was "the best" lol
http://www.imeem.com/live2love2live/music/1qk-ewiD/backyard_sweet_thang/
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I think Pac's ear for beats also came from 2 things. One he was in the studio with the producer when they created the beats most of the time and the producers stepped they game up a notch because they knew they were in there with a true professional. Daz, Quik, Johnny J they all said the same thing as quick as they could do a beat and Pac listened to it, he was laying vocals down. It was organic the way he was building and putting songs together with the producers. Now a days beats get emailed and vocals too and it is cut and paste.
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I'm not sure it was necessarily that they were the best beats but I think Pac could bring out the best in them. The game was so different back then. I think Pac just knew how to get what he wanted out of the songs. I don't think he was hung up on production like artists these days. I mean, maybe it's me but if you take a lot of Pac's songs and remove his words from them and just play the instrumental, a lot of them weren't necessarily hot beats. It's not to say they were shit but I don't think he had exceptional ears for picking beats.
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
They were unreleased, meaning not ready for an album. He did the same lyrics over several beats many times, for instance...Still Ballin' which was released on Thug Life is one of my all time favorite pac songs, and that beat is classic...there are many other unreleased versions of the song, and none come even close to the version that was released.
Out of all the songs released when he was alive, very very few are wack beats.
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
They were unreleased, meaning not ready for an album. He did the same lyrics over several beats many times, for instance...Still Ballin' which was released on Thug Life is one of my all time favorite pac songs, and that beat is classic...there are many other unreleased versions of the song, and none come even close to the version that was released.
Out of all the songs released when he was alive, very very few are wack beats.
just because they were not ready for an album doesn't change the fact that they sucked.
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i dunno id probably say a no talent guy like plies is cause he manages to go gold off of the beats. wheras pac had songs which didnt have great beats but he made song good. imagine ambitions az a ridah with plies on it, the poiano keys couldnt keep u hooked for 3 mins
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
truth
he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
lmao! All the shit he released had very very good production and suited his style perfect! Ur talking bout the OG's that he NEVER released! We dont know if those songs were supposed to come out like they were recorded! He used to change his songs alot! So ur point doesnt make sense!
I remember I read an interview from QD3 where he said that sometimes Pac just listened to the beat via phone for just a few seconds and picked it! Pac was a genius! RIP
Peace
diccryding most rappers pic their beats after a few seconds how many abrs do you need to know if you want it or not?
yeah maybe, but how many rappers do u know bout that listens to the beats over a phone? No im not dickriding, but saying pac beats sucked cuz u have listened to the OG that NEVER got released is stupid. We dont know how far the editing would go, if it was just a demo version or whatever.. just like Hitem Up OG vs the released version.. see the difference?
Peace
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'Pac had a good ear for pickin' beats but saying he was the best at it is a little too far...
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'Pac had a good ear for pickin' beats but saying he was the best at it is a little too far...
yep, but he had some sick beats at the time.so wack too.
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
which is probably -in most cases- the reason they didn't come out
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I'm not sure it was necessarily that they were the best beats but I think Pac could bring out the best in them. The game was so different back then. I think Pac just knew how to get what he wanted out of the songs. I don't think he was hung up on production like artists these days. I mean, maybe it's me but if you take a lot of Pac's songs and remove his words from them and just play the instrumental, a lot of them weren't necessarily hot beats. It's not to say they were shit but I don't think he had exceptional ears for picking beats.
I was thinking the same thing.
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
They were unreleased, meaning not ready for an album. He did the same lyrics over several beats many times, for instance...Still Ballin' which was released on Thug Life is one of my all time favorite pac songs, and that beat is classic...there are many other unreleased versions of the song, and none come even close to the version that was released.
Out of all the songs released when he was alive, very very few are wack beats.
just because they were not ready for an album doesn't change the fact that they sucked.
They sucked and therefore didn't make the album...further making the point that Pac was great at picking good beats
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http://www.imeem.com/live2love2live/music/1qk-ewiD/backyard_sweet_thang/
lol wtf is that shit.
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Lol @ u punks Pac didn't need hot beats hits words were too powerful to b overtaken by a beat. Listen to Never had a friend like me n wats ur phne # those 2 songs cn go over any beat. He killed the game, genius like my nigga said. Nobody comes close to Lesane whn it comes to makin real music n fuck the hatin go listen to biggie's shit. Eat a cock bitch
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Pac had a great ear for beats, def one of the best.
Look at all the producers from the Makaveli album...how many of those producers went on and did ANYTHING else? Pac brought the best out of producers, and could make the wackest beat seem tight because of how he ripped tracks.
And the unreleased OG's are great - I wish they were all mixed properly and released in CDQ. They monumentally fucked up trying to rework the production on his posthumous albums.
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I heard the 7 day theory album was co produced by tupac too
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Pac had a great ear for beats, def one of the best.
Look at all the producers from the Makaveli album...how many of those producers went on and did ANYTHING else? Pac brought the best out of producers, and could make the wackest beat seem tight because of how he ripped tracks.
cosign. those producers didn't do SHIT on other artists' songs but Pac's. he got the most out of his producers.
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yeah alotta of the times his lyrics was better than his choice of production
so some of his stuff IMO dont sound rite or dope on some of the muzik he chose
he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
yeah i agree most of this niggas songs was wacc ass beats
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he was because he neva had a weak beat
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he was because he neva had a weak beat
I will never understand the mind of a diccryder
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i would say he had a good ear. but he wasnt the best. i can name a only a few songs that arent really that good.
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he has so many songs with shit beats. listen to some of his originals and you'll laugh that shit off
lmao!
+ for a good amount, they stayed unreleased & were not choose to be.
Got to be tha same for many others rappers, their original might sound shitty to some.
Pac just listened to the beat via phone for just a few seconds and picked it! Pac was a genius! RIP
Peace
Like he did for 'I Get Around', which is one dope song anyway
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he has more shitty beats than dope beats.. really.. A whole gang of shit he chose sounds absolutely horrible..
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nah he sucked at picking beats, at least in the beginning anyways. He had complete artistic control over 2Pacalypse Now and the beats on there sucked. He probably got better at picking beats later on.
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its amazing to me that beats from shit quality unreleased songs is even relevant in this discussion. Your talking about songs that weren't necessarily done, and weren't intended to be heard by the public hense the fact that they were unreleased.
Do I think he had the best ear for picking beats? No I think he was more concerned with letting his message embody the track.
The best at picking beats would have to go to Game. Hands down. Not saying he's the best lyricist but he definitely has a good ear for picking beats.
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at that time he definitely had some bangin' production. in 95- 96 i wouldn't say he was the best at pickin' beats he just picked what fitted him. everybody had bangin' beats when he was alive .
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at that time he definitely had some bangin' production. in 95- 96 i wouldn't say he was the best at pickin' beats he just picked what fitted him. everybody had bangin' beats when he was alive .
Its hard to go wrong production wise at Death Row in the nintees
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at that time he definitely had some bangin' production. in 95- 96 i wouldn't say he was the best at pickin' beats he just picked what fitted him. everybody had bangin' beats when he was alive .
Its hard to go wrong production wise at Death Row in the nintees
i am very familiar with the production from death row at that time dogg food was just as good if not better than all eyez on me. death row shit was the west at their finest. it's just everybody's production varied and was also bangin.
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at that time he definitely had some bangin' production. in 95- 96 i wouldn't say he was the best at pickin' beats he just picked what fitted him. everybody had bangin' beats when he was alive .
Its hard to go wrong production wise at Death Row in the nintees
i am very familiar with the production from death row at that time dogg food was just as good if not better than all eyez on me. death row shit was the west at their finest. it's just everybody's production varied and was also bangin.
No doubt
Dogg Food >>>>>> AEOM imo
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at that time he definitely had some bangin' production. in 95- 96 i wouldn't say he was the best at pickin' beats he just picked what fitted him. everybody had bangin' beats when he was alive .
Its hard to go wrong production wise at Death Row in the nintees
i am very familiar with the production from death row at that time dogg food was just as good if not better than all eyez on me. death row shit was the west at their finest. it's just everybody's production varied and was also bangin.
No doubt
Dogg Food >>>>>> AEOM imo
the instrumentation on that album alone was sick. every song was classic. daz needs dre also. but they also had live musicians too. check the credits. i'm on my third dogg food cd.
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loads of musicians, daz's ideas and forming together, with dre's mixing = a masterpiece