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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Don Jacob on February 16, 2009, 08:35:34 PM
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me and my boys debated this for 2 hours today. and I came to conclusion that LA and all incorporating areas around it would never accept an expansion team.
1. the market already has alliance to the Raiders/Rams/49ers/ other
2. LA is a title town use to rich legacies and history. you simply can't create a new team in an established league and tell the fans "here's your new God" and expect them to follow
3. It would be a slap in the face to the fans still bitter about the departures of the Raiders and Rams, to lose both at the same time and get some mediocre expansion team would be no compensation for them.
so i say no, unless the Raiders came back.. and to a lessor extent the rams.
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Shit if what I'm hearing turns out true, in about 2 years they might have the Los Angeles Chargers :-[
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You are a Raider biased. I think most Latinos would only want the Raiders, but others would never want that at all. I think that only an expansion would work. Unless it's the Dallas Cowboys (yeah right) then LA would only take an expansion. For every Raider fan, there are tons of Raider haters.
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its been so long that nobody cares about having a nfl team out here anymore.
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you wont get no ones attention until the shit actually happens...in all honesty though,we dont need another cali team.
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http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com/
L.A. Would Embrace a New Team. I know for a fact people have city loyalty before team loyalty. Even if your a Raider fan, its going to be hard rooting against Any New L.A. Team (Rumors are Minnesota or Jacksonville are looking for new places and Ed Roski has been to both to talk about a move maybe as soon as this upcoming season!)
Look at when the Clippers went to the West Semi Finals in '07, where did all the clipper fans come from?!? All of a sudden The Clippers were the City Favorites when the Lakers were bounced out. Same thing will happen with Football. Plus L.A. Loves its sports.
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1. the market already has alliance to the Raiders/Rams/49ers/ other
With all three teams stinking it up in recent years, I'd say the time is right to put a team in in L.A. Especially with the newer generation growing up without the Raiders or Rams in L.A. I doubt an expansion team would be setup. The NFL already has an even 32 teams, 16 teams a conference, 4 teams a division. If a team in L.A. happens it'll probably be a relocation. I think the jags would be a good team to move.
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I think eventually they would, but the love affair would die quick if the team didn't become a winner. There's enough fans to go around, look how big of a splash USC football makes throughout LA. As mentioned, the time since the teams left and the current records of the other California teams would make this a good time to do it, although I'm sure the economic situation is worrisome, so it would most likely be a relocation. On that note, why not the Vikings, their NBA team departed to LA a long time ago, maybe history will repeat itself.
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I don't want an NFL franchise in L.A. - it's fine the way it is
only way that would be acceptable is if the Rams or Raiders were come back, which is a no
I would not want the Chargers, and fuck an expansion piece of shit
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why do they still have raider stores in LA?
shit is horrid
can't stand these dumb fuccs flooding that shit the raiders succ fuc us having a team Colts for life
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hell yea...LA is DYING for a football team.
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hell yea...LA is DYING for a football team.
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most people I ever know are happy enough with the Lakers and Dodgers. No need for the NFL... but I think that was your point. :D
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hell yea...LA is DYING for a football team.
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most people I ever know are happy enough with the Lakers and Dodgers. No need for the NFL... but I think that was your point. :D
I was actually being serious...a lot of football fans out here, but they dont have as much passion for their teams because theres no city love. not to say Lakers and Dodgers aint good enough, but LA is too huge a city not to have a team of a sport considered #1 amongst a good portion of Americans.
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me and my boys debated this for 2 hours today. and I came to conclusion that LA and all incorporating areas around it would never accept an expansion team.
1. the market already has alliance to the Raiders/Rams/49ers/ other
2. LA is a title town use to rich legacies and history. you simply can't create a new team in an established league and tell the fans "here's your new God" and expect them to follow
3. It would be a slap in the face to the fans still bitter about the departures of the Raiders and Rams, to lose both at the same time and get some mediocre expansion team would be no compensation for them.
You & your boys haven't lived here long then. An expansion team was what everyone wanted. No more transplants. I don't care if 95% of people living in so cal were nothing but transplants, foreigners & illegals who act like there's no other state to move to. A new slate, something we can call our own. New stadium even. Expansion team or no team. But oh no, Coliseum people ruined that. And Houston who didn't deserve another NFL team, let alone an expansion team stuck their nose where they didn't belong got it >:( An expansion team woulda gotten ex Rams & Raider fans 2gether like the Mets did for ex Dodger & Giant fans angered over the move to California.
So many things 2 say on this & what others said on here. People in so cal shouldn't be Rams fans anymore anyway especially when the love child of Tammy Faye Baker[rip] & Betty White took a cheap shot at the loyal so cal Ram fans cause they wanted her 2 sell the team or GTFO so cal.
I wanted 2 get to something else in this forum. Keep it short as possible now, EXPANSION TEAM OR NO TEAM! We didn't get it so fuck having another team in L.A. Besides, repeat after me L.A. DOES NOT DESERVE ANOTHER NFL TEAM! They did but not anymore. I wish Fraudger Goodell, these idiots on Around the Horn & everyone else would get that. I wish Goodell would make an announcement that they would not get another team. Who wouldn't prefer 3 day games a week ;)
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Of course they will, and Mexicans will just have to accept it probably won't be the raiders.
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I don't multi quote that good so here.
Roski shoulda gotten this stadium thing in Industry 10 years ago & we'd have expansion with Cleveland. Its too late now.
SoCal majority of race is mexicans & most mexicans favorite teams are the Raiders & Cowboys.
The reason there's a lotta USC fans is cause they won a national championship. Where were these bandwaggoners when USC was U Sure Choked in the 90's?
Too big of a city not 2 have a team. Why not the Vikings or Jaguars? They've been my favorite NFC team since 82 but NO relocated team. Try San Antonio or Toronto. Give them a chance. The main reason the Rams & Raiders were run outta town is cause about 60+% of so cals jumped on Dallas & Frisco's bandwagon throughout the 90's, then they became G.Bay & Donkeys fans when they won the SB. And there were a lotta bandwagon Ram fans when they won the SB. I saw more Ram fans SB-present than I saw Ram fans during 1981-94 I've seen 10 or less Ram fans during those years. And I used to live next door to 3 of them. And they won't admit jumping on the bandwagon either when I know they did.
It ain't where you're at its what you do. Tv market is overrated in NFL. Packers smallest market smallest NFL city & but sellout every game even when they sucked. Even b4 Favre, of course he is the market.
Indy with the Dolts small market but Peyton is the market.
The Cowboys in Dallas. Dallas isn't the biggest market or city in their own state. Nobody outside of Texas cares about the Oilers or Texans. The Steelers-small market but they're the American media's favorite team for decades. They're more of a storied franchise than both the big city Giants & Jets.
And Fuck the Retardgers/Fraudgers! They were likable when they had Fouts, Winslow, & Joiner & their best look...the royal blue/yellow uniforms. But SoCal has enuff terrible owners as is. Got Sterling already don't need another SD team with crappy owners. NFL too dumb to realize that most of us won't like them. Not even at gunpoint. But they still 4ce them on us nearly every sunday >:(
CBS=Charger Ball Station
SoCals bandwagon too much. The only way NFL can survive there is that they win the SB every single year. They lose one & the so cals will jump on that winners bandwagon. If they want it 2 succeed there, no other cities can be allowed to win a SB. That's how much they bandwagon. Put sports teams in sports towns not winners towns which is L.A.
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I don't multi quote that good so here.
Roski shoulda gotten this stadium thing in Industry 10 years ago & we'd have expansion with Cleveland. Its too late now.
SoCal majority of race is mexicans & most mexicans favorite teams are the Raiders & Cowboys.
The reason there's a lotta USC fans is cause they won a national championship. Where were these bandwaggoners when USC was U Sure Choked in the 90's?
Too big of a city not 2 have a team. Why not the Vikings or Jaguars? They've been my favorite NFC team since 82 but NO relocated team. Try San Antonio or Toronto. Give them a chance. The main reason the Rams & Raiders were run outta town is cause about 60+% of so cals jumped on Dallas & Frisco's bandwagon throughout the 90's, then they became G.Bay & Donkeys fans when they won the SB. And there were a lotta bandwagon Ram fans when they won the SB. I saw more Ram fans SB-present than I saw Ram fans during 1981-94 I've seen 10 or less Ram fans during those years. And I used to live next door to 3 of them. And they won't admit jumping on the bandwagon either when I know they did.
It ain't where you're at its what you do. Tv market is overrated in NFL. Packers smallest market smallest NFL city & but sellout every game even when they sucked. Even b4 Favre, of course he is the market.
Indy with the Dolts small market but Peyton is the market.
The Cowboys in Dallas. Dallas isn't the biggest market or city in their own state. Nobody outside of Texas cares about the Oilers or Texans. The Steelers-small market but they're the American media's favorite team for decades. They're more of a storied franchise than both the big city Giants & Jets.
And Fuck the Retardgers/Fraudgers! They were likable when they had Fouts, Winslow, & Joiner & their best look...the royal blue/yellow uniforms. But SoCal has enuff terrible owners as is. Got Sterling already don't need another SD team with crappy owners. NFL too dumb to realize that most of us won't like them. Not even at gunpoint. But they still 4ce them on us nearly every sunday >:(
CBS=Charger Ball Station
SoCals bandwagon too much. The only way NFL can survive there is that they win the SB every single year. They lose one & the so cals will jump on that winners bandwagon. If they want it 2 succeed there, no other cities can be allowed to win a SB. That's how much they bandwagon. Put sports teams in sports towns not winners towns which is L.A.
Actually the Raiders left because the 1994 Northridge quake cracked the Coliseum and the Raiders were looking for a new stadium. They had an offer from Hollywood park but with no where to go right away Oakland offered them their old home at a discount.
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The reason there's a lotta USC fans is cause they won a national championship. Where were these bandwaggoners when USC was U Sure Choked in the 90's?
SoCals bandwagon too much. The only way NFL can survive there is that they win the SB every single year. They lose one & the so cals will jump on that winners bandwagon. If they want it 2 succeed there, no other cities can be allowed to win a SB. That's how much they bandwagon. Put sports teams in sports towns not winners towns which is L.A.
That's a great point, but that's pretty much what I was trying to say. Whatever team comes to LA must be a winner or the support will die quickly. Look at Cleveland or Houston, where they expansion teams to replace the ones they lost, and they both are mediocre but they still sell very well, especially any chance they get for a primetime game. An expansion team would most likely take too long to be competitive, and would make the league uneven. The Vikings, Jags, and Chargers have unsettled stadium deals and are decent teams, so those are the options.
And thanks for bringing that up about USC, where were all these "die-hards" before Carson Palmer's senior season and Pete Carroll. They don't remember anything from that era, because they weren't winning and had very little support. UCLA used to be the big college football program in LA.
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The reason there's a lotta USC fans is cause they won a national championship. Where were these bandwaggoners when USC was U Sure Choked in the 90's?
SoCals bandwagon too much. The only way NFL can survive there is that they win the SB every single year. They lose one & the so cals will jump on that winners bandwagon. If they want it 2 succeed there, no other cities can be allowed to win a SB. That's how much they bandwagon. Put sports teams in sports towns not winners towns which is L.A.
That's a great point, but that's pretty much what I was trying to say. Whatever team comes to LA must be a winner or the support will die quickly. Look at Cleveland or Houston, where they expansion teams to replace the ones they lost, and they both are mediocre but they still sell very well, especially any chance they get for a primetime game. An expansion team would most likely take too long to be competitive, and would make the league uneven. The Vikings, Jags, and Chargers have unsettled stadium deals and are decent teams, so those are the options.
And thanks for bringing that up about USC, where were all these "die-hards" before Carson Palmer's senior season and Pete Carroll. They don't remember anything from that era, because they weren't winning and had very little support. UCLA used to be the big college football program in LA.
The Fraudgers talk so much junk like they've won Super Bowls but you win it playing, not running your mouf. Football in Texas is supposed 2 be religion but the Oiler fans stopped showing up in 94 when they kept blowing it in the playoffs. And the city didn't wanna give Bud Adams a new stadium so he left. Why have a Houston team when you have the winners in Dallas? And the rally 2 save them was less than 50 people. Cleveland fans fought to the bitter end 2 save the Clowns even though they played like the AFC version of the 90-98 Rams. THey shoulda been gone that they were gone, just as long as the team name & history was left behind. And when the Rams were run out, everybody cheered even me ;D When Leno & Greg Kinnear said it on late night that the Rams are gone, the whole audience cheered.
Don't know if I mentioned it but no team in L.A. is better than Ohio having their sorry teams, Missouri having their sorry teams. In 95 not only no team in L.A. was better than what I mentioned, it was better than N.Y./N.J. having the Giants & the Jets. And they're the largest market.